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Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email Ok... I been floating out of the IA area lately but I have come across some PC's from Gateway that blow away the i-Opener and the GCT. I bought a Gateway Profile I chassis from a buyer on eBay, it was a special version that Gateway donated to the Olympics when the winter games were in Utaha and Gateway had the units retrofited with a touchscreen. Tha Profile chassis 700mhz Pentium III that I received was completly functional after I added a stick of SODIMM memroy and a 370 Celeron 533 processor, they take a regular notebook hard drive and it even included cdrom drive and floppy; the touchscreen front was cracked which actually was a blessing as it preserved the TFT LCD from any scratchs or damage. The best part is that the Intel 810e main board which supports coppermine 1.75 volt 100mhz processors; I put a 800mhz Celeron in it and it had not problem with it at all. I paid $150 for the chassis and with the Celeron I already had and $100 buck for memory and a 10 gb drive I have a rather sharp littl TFT computer with card bus, USB, built in 10/100 ethernet. Not too bad at all!! (uses 90 watt Solo 19v power supply not included but I already had) I went ahead and bought another chassis from this same eBay seller; Profile III, which I expect should be even better as it has a Ziff 370 and supports 100/133 FSB and reguler desktop memory and hard drive. It requires a different power supply but overall it sounds fairly good too. These beat the crapola out of the limitations of the GCT and i-Opener and the Profile I's are becoming more comman (The AMD ones are VERY comman, but are 400Mhz) The ebay seller for these units is serviceandproduct.net and his Gateway Profile 3 auctions end in the next few hours... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=179&item=2726557926 There are several bargains to be found with the Profile TFT PC's even on rare occasions on Gateway's web site as I came across the remanufactured 1 Ghz Profile 3's there a couple weeks ago complete for $449 which included a 20 Gb hard drive, 128 mb ram and Windows XP Pro (not the Home version), I haven't seen them online at that price again but I have been tempted to call the 800 number listed to see what is avaliable, most the current remanufacured online models they list are the newer Profile 4's but still they are still a decent deal... http://www.gateway.com/reman/hm_profile_Matrix.shtml Granted most the fun in hacking is making the hardware do something that is wasn't intended to do but to be practical, these Gateway Profiles do everything that we hacking out of the I-Openers, Web Players and GCT's but do it in a cheaper fashion, Heck the Profile I that I have now is even under orginal warrenty until October of 2003. 05-06-2003 08:54:52

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Dang BigDog, don't get me started buying more toys...(Just kidding) These toys do get addicting Thanks for the info! Those Gateway profiles are kool machines! I've been hoping to find one in my salvage adventures but nothing yet. My luck I'll end up buying one, then a few freebees will show up a month later! In my area the older IBM "Netvista" P-III all in one Lcd machines are appearing in the surplus market for under $375. (Businesses downsizing/closing everywhere)I've been thinking about one of these for awhile...But most have scratched lcd screens and max out somewhere around 800mhz? 05-06-2003 10:51:37

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) zmoz Profile I have looked at those in the past...the only thing that kept me from buying one was that it was about $450 at the time. Now the only reason I won't buy one is because I have a severe hatred for gateway. :) 05-06-2003 16:27:20

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile I personally do not like Gateway either but was thinking of purchasing one as a gift. One's which are listed state that they do not post. Any idea what seller means? Wouldn't post with no mem or cpu, think he has tested them? One on link above didn't state whether the unit posted or not... 05-07-2003 19:02:52

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Kudzu Profile This auction is for a Gateway Profile 1 PIII 700 ELO TOUCHSCREEN Chassis. We have tested it and it is BAD. We are selling this auction AS-IS, No warranty. See Below. It comes as chassis only. LCD is not cracked. The ELO Touchscreen overlay is not cracked. System does not Post. No hard drive, no memory, no ac adaptor. May or may not have the CPU and fan assembly. All of them had memory & the cpu installed when they tested them, but they've stripped them since, and are now selling the parts separately. It could be anything if it doesn't post. 05-07-2003 23:07:13

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) KaseKracker Profile | Email I won one of these Gateway "barebones" @$133.No cpu.no hard drive no ram and no AC adapter.I had a P3 933 and a Celeron 566 available(in other projects or just taking up space)I took an external SCSI case apart and used it's power supply to make a Y type adapter to power the 3.5 hard disk and the rest of the computer before I comit to a $65 ps from the same auctioneer.It fired up with mt test cpu and only has a tiny blemish in the LCD.For those of you needing CD rom drives to complete these units .a Compaq CD-224E has the right connector.Just unscrew the back-plate.I had bought a couple of these from directron.com for about $30 apiece for GP.They also come with the correct setup to use with a 40 pin ide cable and sound card.Counting the bid price plus shipping I may have $200 invested and it is much more versatile than my Iopener that is just collecting dust.I don't care much for Gateway(remember those terrible 486 and early Pentiums!!!)but I luv this one. Peace Out 05-08-2003 01:31:46

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email Ok, it just got better... Yes these units are "as is" so there is a chance to get stuck with a major piece of Gateway paperwieght BUT there are now Profile 1's for sale with intact touchscreens; I bought another just to have a intact touchscreen. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2728385853&category=179 The kicker is that that appears that there may or may not have processors but I checked on getting a replacment glass touch screen from ELO and I couldn't find for less than $180 plus shipping so I got another one; The seller seems good, all emails to them have been anwsered and his shipping is fast with 2nd day Fed Ex ground. As mentioned the units seemed just to stripped, they don't post because they have no memory or CPU; The fastest CPU I have working in mine is 800mhz celeron and plan in time to put a 1ghz in it when money permits also the unit I received did come with a working floppy and cdrom drive (the cdrom drive booted a Win98 boot CD succesfully) I believe I have found at last a workable automobile MP3 player! These units also have a super tough base mounting plate installed as I presume that since they were used in POS or public access venues that they were fastened down securely. Gateway is a becoming a terrible company... I tried getting a power AC adapter from them yesterday and they almost wouldn't sell me one because I was not a registered owner... I had to eventually claim it was for my work notebook and my employer refused to buy me one to have at home as they insisted that I must have a Solo computer in order to buy a solo part. gheez... their 90 watt 19v adapter is on there web site, and it's cheaper than eBay esp win you use the promotion code NOSHIPA and you get free UPS ground shipping. 05-08-2003 03:12:25

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email Also I want to mention that the ELO touchscreen is removable, the glass is held on my super sticky doublesided foam tape and the controller is a serial controler hotwired to the CPU fan power lead with a ribbon cable hacked into the back case coming out and attaching to the serial RS232 port. I removed mine by use a razor blade knife to go down to edge and cut the foam. It would seem that Gateway had a couple IA hackers too as these unit were all retrofitted with touchscreens, the controller sit outside the RF shield, the plastic case has shims with longer screws to attache the case togather; after removing the shims and touchscreen, the unit went right back togather. I would bet you that the damaged touchscreen units was from someone trying to remove the touchscreen when the units were being plundered as my first thought to remove the TS was to pry it of, when I broke another peice of it off did I stop and think about it before I did anymore and I came up with using a razor between the touchscreen and the LCD At a total of $165 (includes the $25 shipping) this is worth having a working 15.1" touch screen were you can get current drivers from ELO and it's not the cheapo resistive touchscreen like what's on the GCT, this is a industrial point of sale touchscreen. 05-08-2003 03:30:45

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) zmoz Profile Damn you! Damn you all! Now I have to go and buy one! At least gateway won't be getting any of the money... 05-08-2003 16:02:45

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile BigDog: I'm not quite sure if I should thank you or swear at you... . Thanks for the heads-up on these. I ended up buying a couple of the Profile-1's. It will be pretty cool if they both work. I have a bunch of questions about these, but I think I'll wait for them to arrive and be surprised. I've been trying to avoid starting any new computer related projects but,... you know how it goes... "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!!" Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 05-08-2003 18:55:18

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email I'm sorry! I thought I was out too until I saw the broken touchscreen ones so I got one, then when I found the Profile 3 that supposly uses desktop memory and hard drives then I had to have one of those; Of course then when I saw the intact touch screen on the other new auctions then I had to have one of those!! I'm planning on selling the chassis of one of units (either the Profile 1 without touch screen or Profile 3) depending on what it takes to get two of them running. The Profile 1's have a 370 socket for the processor but it's not the nice zif socket so you must be careful removing and installing a processor, The latest one state that the heatsink and processor may or may not be included, there is a place like Mundocorp or something like that that has them but they want $50 for them. I geting my Profile 3 today so I will post what I find out about it. 05-09-2003 04:07:11

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Guessed I moved too slow and was unable to get a profile III and ended up last night with a profile I (which might be easier to work with). Other than regular sized vs notebook sized internals anything else that I should be looking for? 05-09-2003 06:01:05

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile BigDog: The HeatSinkFan that they have at Mundocorp looks a lot like a P2-Xeon HSF. That may be something we need to check into for those that don't get a HSF with their machine. PeteC: I was wondering if you got one. I was browsing through the completed auctions and recognized about half of the eBay IDs. I'm not sure if I should be proud or scared by that . Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 05-09-2003 06:56:41

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email I know the fan is 5 volt for the Profile 1, there is numerous ebay auctions for the Profile 1.5's (amd models) which claim the fan for the AMD processor models is Mouser p/n 664-D4506MX-5V I don't know the dimensions of the regular cpu fan but as long as it's 5 volt it should work. I would guess that the the CPU heat sink is the same for both the 1.5 models and the 1.8 Intel models. The Profile 1 use the standard Solo AC 19 volt power supply, the kicker is that Gateway claims it requires the 90 watt power supply and one the Gateway support site under the specs. it states that the regular Solo PS's won't work (the normal ones are around 70 watts) I did power mine up with only a processor, memory and no hard drive with a 70 watt Solo AC adapter. I got my Profile 3 in today and it was in perfect shape, I don't have a power supply for it yet but I plan to hack at old AT desktop power supply to see if it work this weekend, it requires 12 volt 80 watts I believe. I did manage to mess up the PCMCIA eject butten which really PO'ed me but that was due to me being in a hurry, be careful on the Profile 1's too with the eject buttons on the PCMCIA as I managed to break the ones on it too when putting the case back togather. On thing I forgot too on the Profile 3's is that they have a mini-pci slot too so you can add a ethernet card or wireless (not sure on the ethernet as I thought the ethernet was built into the mainboard) I am still short the 700mhz processor that the ebay seller told me should have came in the first Profile 1, He told me he would send one out but I have yet to see it even though I have received the 2nd profile from him. Oh well. 05-09-2003 14:56:22

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Werewolf Profile | Email BigDog, if you are letting one go please email me. I am interested but not interested enough to keep up with eBay. Thanks. tsangchoi at yahoo dot com 05-11-2003 19:17:34

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile My first Profile-1 arrived about a half-hour ago. There is joy in Hackerville tonight (at least around these parts)! I was able to get it to POST without too much effort. The machine was unresponsive at first. I tried all of the front panel buttons and nothing happened. I then checked the symbols on the front bezel (which was already removed). I then came to the realization that the reason that it didn't power up was because it doesn't have a power switch <g>. I shorted the contacts and the machine started (yippee). I'll probably just move one of the other switches (maybe the reset switch) to that position until I find a suitable replacement. Next on the list is to disable the BIOS password, fix the broken front bezel mounts, find suitable CDROM & hard drives, etc. I feel very fortunate that the machine had the CPU, memory and heatsink (no fan). My earlier observation about the heatsink being similar to a Xeon heatsink was way off. It is nothing like that. The fins are a varied height to match the profile of the back of the case. Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 05-13-2003 15:49:09

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email My first one was missing the CPU but came with a cdrom drive, the second had the cpu but display won't come on; since I had a working LCD from the other I swapped it out and found the lcd driver board which is mounted on the back of the LCD was bad and thank god the LCD is fine. ServiceandProductNet has told me they will find me another board and send it to me since he can't find a CPU which was missing from the first auction (the first of the auctions listed the units as having a cpu). OH!! Hehe.. and the second one came with a DVD drive which works! I thought it was rather decent to include the working cdrom and DVD drives, for once I really feel a got a good deal on a eBay auction!! Werewolf - If I get the second one running I may be intertested in selling, I am stuck also in what to do with the touch screen as I have a complete 15.1" ELO touch screen with controller and can't decide if I want to put it back on or sell it. I feel the complete unit on eBay could go for more than I payed for it esp. if I warrenty it against DOA and it works. FYI - I have ordered a Solo 400 power adapter dirctly from eBay, I am rather sure it was the correct plug as I am not aware that any of the Solo's having differnet power connecters (it's the only 90 watt 19v listed on their page). In case I didn't already say this; use the code NOSHIPA for free ground shipping. Glitch... you might want to try moving one the button just left of the broken switch as it the "sleep" button which is one of those wonderful options that very few folks use but that's just my thought... Also, the standard cdrom fits inside and connects (you have to put it in just right) there are only a couple thin metal bars that attach to the drive that attach to the inside to secure it. 05-13-2003 18:16:46

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) smee Profile bigdog, glitch: Do you know how to disable the bios password in these things? I don't see a jumper anywhere on the motherboard. Is it hidden? Or, do you happen to know what the password is? Thanks. 05-13-2003 19:02:51

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile BigDog: Using the "sleep" switch is a better idea. A reset switch will be much more useful during the debugging process than a sleep switch. BTW, the switch isn't broken, it just isn't there. There was a sticker on the machine that said something about keeping them powered on. I guess that they were serious about that <g>. Do your machines have all of the switches? I had another nice surprise. I decided to dig through the box to find all of the screws that fell out of the machine during shipping. I only found one screw, but I also found a DVD drive. The drive is missing the front cover and doesn't seem to work, but it does have the mounting bracket. I'm happy that I don't have to scrounge for a bracket. Drives are easy to find, brackets aren't. I agree that these are a great deal. It will take a bit of work to make it a nice machine... but if it was too easy, it wouldn't be any fun! Everyone: Does anyone know the history of these machines? For example, what happened to them between the Olympics and the reseller? Who stripped the missing parts? Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 05-13-2003 19:17:51

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile smee: The jumper is a set of solder pads near the battery. Just jumpering it while the machine was off didn't work for me. I needed to short it out while powering-on the machine to reset the CMOS. YMMV. Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 05-13-2003 19:21:25

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) smee Profile Glitch: I'm in. Thanks. It's labeled J1 but I'd never have found it. 05-13-2003 19:34:49

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email Hey heads up in case anyone see's a Profile 3 chassis or such.... Be careful if it doesn't come with a working AC adapter... these puppies use different power supplies as compared to the Profile 1's and they are HARD to get!! I waded into Gateway's support line since while on the phone to their sales section; sales told me they didn't sell them but refered me to call tech support as they might have access to them... Well technical support told they can't help and they only have ones to cover warrenty repair. Gateway told me to go to SkyLine's website (they cost $99 there!!) FYI Gateway will sell Profile 4 power supplies anf they are the same voltage as the Profile 3's, higher watts but wrong plug on the end.... the quoted price was $59 So in a pince that might work until next year (if Gateway is still around) and the profile 5's comes out. :) 05-14-2003 22:27:35

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) LD37 Profile got mine today...only had a few minutes to play with it (went to the matrix tonight!) i must say i am very happy with what i received...DVD-ROM included, CPU, memory, attached my GCT power supply to test powerup and everything is ready to go...looks like i'll only need to add a power supply and hard drive to get this thing going the only thing i noticed is a note, handwritten with pencil on the case, that says "No Sound"...i can live without sound 05-14-2003 23:31:22

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email Had an issue installing WinXP using the DVD drive... it's the Matsu####a SR-8171 drive (2x DVD & 20 Reg) WinXP CD would start but never boot up completly. I put one the regular cdrom drive I had and everything went fine and after doing a little searching I found a case were others have had issue with booting up and installing XP with that same older DVD drive. Post a msg if you try it and get no were as I am curious if my drive is bad or if it's just something with the drive. 05-15-2003 15:29:16

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) LD37 Profile this is awesome...put in a hard drive and installed Win2k then the ELO drivers...threw on a wireless USB NIC and i'm typing on my machine right now 700 MHz PIII, 128MB RAM, Win2k Pro i am more than a little impressed and happy with this purchase...i will be throwing some more business their way when i need parts, starting with a power supply thanks for the tip, BigDog, i owe you a beer! 05-15-2003 19:00:54

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile My second Profile-1 arrived today. It is not as nice as the first one. It is missing quite a few pieces and the display is dead. The mainboard seems to work fine. I'd be fairly disappointed if I ordered only one and I got this one. However, it looks like I'll be able to make one fully complete, fully functional machine between the two. So I'll try to look at it like the glass like is half-full. BigDog: Do the Profile-1's and the Profile-3's use the same "adapter board" for the display? I also have a couple other questions that I'd like to ask you via email. Please contact me at smoke_liberator at yahoo dot com. Thanks. Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 05-15-2003 19:03:08

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Got my Profile 3 today. It appears clean but came with no power supply, cpu nor cd rom. Screen looks ok with no scratches etc. Was able to take it apart pretty easily (only 2 out of 4 screws were in place). Does anyone know what the pin-outs are for the ps? Back cover plastic plate was covering what appears to be a functional ethernet port. Won't be able to test it out though until I get power to it. No thumb screws came with base but I did get a base with it. Where do you find mini-pci cards? (may be jumping ahead of myself as I don't know if mine will boot up yet)...I have all parts needed to make it work except power supply....which I can temporarily hack to test... 05-15-2003 22:26:15

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 1 times) PeteC Profile Here are the specs for the MiniPCI cards for Profile 3(guess the modem/NIC ports) are non function until you plug in the mini PCI card ActionTec MP560LH MiniPCI Modem (Optional) Modem Type Lucent controller-less modem (data/fax) Data Modes V.90, K56 Flex Fax Modes Class 1 and Class 2 fax, Group 3 (standard 14.4) Connector RJ-11 Xircom MiniPCI combination NIC/Modem (Optional) Network Interface Card (NIC) Type Intergrated Intel Pro100+ (10-Mb or 100-Mb operation) Modem Type Xircom Modem 56 Data Modes V.90, K56 Flex Fax Modes Class 1 and Class 2 fax, Group 3 (standard 14.4) Connector Modem – RJ11 NIC – RJ45 Broadcom MiniPCI Combination HPNA / Modem (Optional) HPNA Type Broadcom chipsets 4211 Home Phoneline Networking Alliance (HPNA) 1.0 and 2.0 ACPI Power Management Interface Support Modem Type Broadcom chipsets 4211 Data Modem Standard Supports V.90, V.34, V.32bis, V.32, V.23, V.22bis, V.22, and V.21 Error Correction V.42LAPM, and MNP 2-4 error correction Data Compression V.42bis and MNP 5 data compression Fax Modem Standard Send and recieve rates up to 14400 bps, V.17, V.29, V.27ter, and V.21 channel 2 TIA/EIA 578 Class 1, and Class 2 Fax Connector RJ11 05-15-2003 22:34:01

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email Yea, on the profile 3 with no mini-pci you don't have ethernet or modem.... now what I plan is get a mini-pci wireless card and run it was wireless... Most the type III cards will work, there is some sort of odd ball mini pci type II that is for a older Compaq notebook that won't work (it's completly different, I speak from my own buying mistake). There is an interesting IBM mini-pci card that has modem, ethernet and wireless... Since ActionTec makes the adpaters for both, the connecters are the same for the modem and ethernet, all you have to do is figure out a antenna for the wireless part. First thing to do if you don't have a AC adapter for the Profile 3 is get one! I found these are hard to come by and Gateway doesn't have them (to sell). QuestTechnology has had a couple auctions for them but they are difficult to get... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2728662474&category=42169&rd=1 might also email sales@adeal.com as Ralph Tan is a big dealer in Gateway OEM parts; I have found he doesn't answer email very fast and he knows that he has the market cornered on most gateway parts but he is the cheapest compare to Mundo-corp, Glory Computers or SkyLine which are all big OEM eBay sellers. 05-16-2003 12:09:38

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Yes figured I could get the combo ethernet/modem and just use a wireless PCMCIA. But waiting to validate that it works. Already plugged in memory, CPU, HD and CD-Rom. Do you know where I could get a CD rom drive cover which would be same shape as opening though? If I knew which pin to put 12V to I could try to post on it... 05-16-2003 14:10:52

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile PeteC: You should be able to trace the power connector pin connections and make an educated guess at the proper ones for power and ground. Ground is very likely to be common with all of the screw mounting points. I can imagine that there could be two configurations. With the first, the power supply just provides just power & ground. Two pins would be power and the other two would be ground. In this configuration the pins would likely be soldered to the same trace on the mainboard. The second configuration would use a remote enable line and a "always on" line. All four pins would go to different traces. This setup is harder to reverse engineer. It would be best to get some more info from someone with a Profile-3 power supply (like what pin is always on) before proceeding. I'm also curious on sources for CD or DVD drives with the correct cover. One of the drives that I got for the Profile-1 had the correct cover. It was a Matsushi-ta (Panasonic) drive. I've seen drives with covers like it for sale on eBay. The Profile-3 may use a different cover. It will be easy to find a drive that will fit in the case and work fine. It may be a bit harder to find one with the right faceplate so it looks stock. Everyone: Be careful with the heatsinks. I have two styles. One will work with a flip-chip CPU (little blue button), the other is for a CPU with a heat spreader. The latter doesn't make contact with a flip-chip CPU. Not noticing this may result in smoke. YMMV. Another note: I have not been successful at booting from a CD or DVD drive. If anyone has been able to do this on a Profile-1, please let me know what brand & model drive that you have. Thanks. Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 05-16-2003 15:49:23

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) KaseKracker Profile | Email This is what I did to my Profile 3 to test it with an AT power supply.I used the power connector from an old Pentium cpu fan and wired red to red:yellow to yellow: -5 to -5 and -12 to -12.I then pluged this hacked connector into the 3.5 hard drive and the other end into the motherboard.I don't know how the "special edition" units look but mine is a standard Profile 3.You can get a pic at tiger direct.Two drawbacks with this method are (1)noisy power supply (2)there seems to be a slight hum or nag added to the circuit;I suppose I could measure the voltages at the connector for the original power supply and hack out a proper power pack........maybe later.....It is running Win2k right now and serving as the DHCP server for my ISDN setup (I live in the boonies and Satellite Internet did not work out{try downloading an ISO with a 169mb FAP}) 05-16-2003 17:14:24

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile <KaseKracker> I would guess that you hook the two middle black (ground) wires up to eh? I am wondering with the hum you get is this is safe... 05-16-2003 18:26:41

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) KaseKracker Profile | Email To PeteC: The noise is more like an amplification of the data being transferred over the IDE controller/bus coming through the speakers.I have had this thing working like this for at least a month.I need a Linux-based solution for my ISDN server but have little *nix experience.I do have a Clark Connect box serving mp3 and video files.Any help would be appreciated. 05-16-2003 21:47:43

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) KaseKracker Profile | Email To PeteC: The noise is more like an amplification of the data being transferred over the IDE controller/bus coming through the speakers.I have had this thing working like this for at least a month.I need a Linux-based solution for my ISDN server but have little *nix experience.I do have a Clark Connect box serving mp3 and video files.Any help would be appreciated.All: the -5 and -12 refer to the Black wires. 05-16-2003 21:54:07

Gateway Profile 3 Power Supply (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Anyone out there with a Profile 3 power supply have the exact specs for each of the four pins on the ps adaptor? Testing making a cheap / effective PS using freely available 12v ps bricks out there. Once completed will document. May need to solder new ps adaptor on MB. 05-17-2003 14:13:20

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 1 times) PeteC Profile Disassembling Profile-3 but not totally removing motherboard, this is what I see relating to power input on Profile-3. Used a multimeter to check pins underneath power input. They are clearly marked 1, 2, 3 and 4. This is from looking underneath motherboard without removing it. It would be better to totally remove the motherboard to get a better view. Power input =========> --------------- |==========| |===1==2===| |==========| |===3==4===| |==========| --------------- Pin 1 - Not sure on this one (could also be ground) Pin 2 - Goes to what appears to be a small voltage regulator (most likely 12V in) Pin 3 - Ground - to same trace as 4 - and to power input shelding & case Pin 4 - Ground - to same trace as 3 - and to power input shelding & case Appears too basic to have 4 pins - where questionable pin appears only be pin 1 right now. 05-17-2003 18:37:51

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) cybertime Profile I have a couple of the profile III systems and a couple dead mother boards here. To answer the power supply question. The power supply is rated at +12V 6.67Amps the 4 pins are connected as follows: 1-2 are tied together and are +12V 3-4 are also tied together and are both ground. 3-4 are the 2 pins that are in parallel and closest to the edge of the motherboard. I have the dead motherboard here so if I can answer any questions about anything let me know. They seem to be very stable systems once you get them up and going. 05-17-2003 22:24:24

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile <cybertime> Would you have a power supply to sell? 05-18-2003 01:37:30

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile <KaseKracker> I used your method to test my motherboard and it works fine. Posted etc. I have already inserted a processor, memory, HD and CD/CDRW drive. Only thing is the the slim drive that I inserted has a regular cover on it so still looking for a replacement to it. I would not advise leaving it connected the way you have it in that it may damage the power supply regular that is on the motherboard. Here is a link to a 6 amp 12 transformer for a reasonable amount of 26.00. If the Profile-3 only uses a positive and negative lead then it would probably be better to remove the 4 pin and replace it with a co-axial adaptor. The power supply actually appears better than the stock GW supply. http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=480&item=PS-1244&type=store 05-18-2003 13:00:25

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email Found this on eBay to use for a CPU fan on the Profile 3's..... Seem's a little expensive but I can't find them anywhere else; The heatsink fan is for 1U rank mount servers. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3416520807&category=3673&rd=1 I thought about just cutting a regular heatsink down but thought this would be better, I'll let everyone know if it works unless anyone can find the source for the orginal GW heatsink. 05-19-2003 17:15:12

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Werewolf Profile | Email BTW our friends at serviceandproduct.net are selling Profile 3 fans for $5 and power supplies for $50. I just bought two of each from them. Don't know if it's the same kind as the 1U copper above. 05-19-2003 20:00:19

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email Wireless Profile BABY!! Got all my stuff finally togather for my Profile 3... I put a Celeron 1 ghz processor in it (1.75v 370 Coppermine) and bought a mini-pci Orinoco wireless card; ADEAL on ebay is selling the Gateway OEM antenna's that are new which are intended for their Solo notebooks. So now I have a wireless Profile 3!! It work good, I will admit I like the quality of the Profile 1's LCD better than the 3's but it's all pretty good! For those who have a Profile 3.... is the inside of the plastic case coated in a RF shielding of some sort?? or am I just missing the RF shielding? I am getting fair wireless reception with my wireless card but I was wondering if I might inprove it my removing some of the gold near the inside top were I have the antenna embedded inside. 05-24-2003 05:39:59

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Decided to put a combo NIC/Modem Mini PCI card for that reason in that I believe using a PCMCIA card would provide better reception. Anyone figure out how to make Profile boot CD Rom first? 05-24-2003 08:06:10

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Think a 1.2 Tulxxx 100 FSB Celeron would work in the Profile 3? 05-24-2003 08:07:25

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email Really depends on the actual version of it, the model I have is only Coppermine, I believe the newest versions right before GW went to the Profile 4 should be able to handle it, all the older ones are Coppermine only According to the Gateway support site.... Profile™ 3 (T) R2 model #'s 3501073,3501139,3501289 Profile™ 3 (T) R1 model # 3501139 Profile™ 3 (T) R0 model # 3501073 Hopefully even if the serial number has been removed, the model number is still present as I am not sure how to tell the difference between the two on the board short of measuring the CPU core voltages as the socket is the same. According to the latest auctions from serviceandproduct.net the Profiles are the newest version with Firewire and built in ethernet (rather than the older ones which use just the mini-pci... I would have rather had one of the newer ones since it would have been nice to have both ethernet and wireless; I am really thinking about selling one of my Profile 1's with the touch screen and get one of these Profile 3's. In all actuallity, the GW web site claims with the Pentium III Tualatin processors capable versions that they support only up to 1.2 Ghz but I would guess that could go much higher since at the time of production 1.2 Ghz was the fastest PIII & Celeron that you could get at the time they were in production.... (Since CopperMine you can get in 1.2 Ghz celeron and PII I beleive you can get up to about 800Mhz) I would think there's no reason why a 2 Ghz Tualatin Celeron would work in the newer "older" Profile 3's). After I looked it up, I releazed that GW used the "T" in the model description to designate Tualatin capable.... I loked at all the models before I figured that out.... I'm a little slow today!! 05-24-2003 10:50:46

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Think my model was a 4 or D with the mini PCI card. After updating will check it with Sandra and see what it says...only piece now is the CD-Rom drive (not actually drive but face plate). 05-24-2003 15:23:13

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile Has anyone tried a 133FSB CPU in a Profile-1? The Profile-1 has a 810E chipset, so there is at least a chance that 133FSB CPU is supported. I'd try it myself but I don't own any P3-XXX/133's. ( I wonder how that happened ). BTW, I've seen references to Profile 1.5's and Profile 1.8's. Can anyone explain what the differences are? Or... point me to a webpage that explains the differences? Thanks. Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 05-24-2003 19:45:17

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile Nevermind about the 1.5 versus 1.8 question. I found what I needed to know on Gateway's site. In a nutshell, the 1.5's have AMD CPUs and the 1.8's have P3 CPU's. I'm sure there are many more differences, but that is enough info to know that I can ignore any articles about the 1.5's <g>. Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 05-24-2003 20:13:17

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Werewolf Profile | Email Well, I just received my 2 Profile 3s. One is a 3501054 and the other is a 3500944. Both look great, and better yet, they work!! Unfortunately I only have a Celeron 533 to test it with. In order to play DVDs full screen, I guess I want to buy the best and fastest CPU that will run on the board. I see Bigdog has tried a 1G Celeron Coppermine. Is there any better? 1G PIII Coppermine worth it? Or try the Tualatin adaptor? Oh how I wish the vendor came out with the later version (T) Profile IIIs before I got mine!! Also, can someone point me to the source of compatible DVDROMs and CDROMs? The connector seems different from the TOshiba and Compaq laptop drives I have (not to mention the drives are slightly too thick to fit the bracket). The Directron Compaq CDROM mentioned by KaseKracker is already sold out anyhow. :( Thanx for your help. 05-27-2003 00:52:18

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email I went with the Celeron due to cost; From a table that I found on a tech website, the Tualatin only goes up to 1.4 Ghz in the Celeron so I didn't see must use in trying the slightly faster processor just for 400 Mhz gain. To play DVD's you should be good even with the PIII 700Mhz as that's the fastest that the Profile 1's came out with even with 2x DVD drives and they had no hardware decoder included. I am very happy with 1 Ghz Celeron Profile 3 compared to the 700Mhz PIII Profile 1 except for the disk IO which on the Profile 3 I am using a 7200Rpm 8 mb cache Maxtor drive. I just got the LCD panel driver board from the fine folks on ebay and now I have a working Profile 1 which I am thinking about selling..... Check the for sale section... I am including a 800Mhz celeron, ELO touch screen & controller; no memory, no laptop hard drive, no AC adapter (You can get them off Gateway.com site) I believe I am going for one of those new Profile 3's on ebay... 05-27-2003 07:51:52

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 1 times) PeteC Profile <Werewolf> I have a 3501054 (think I do...as it's on the cover but where is it on the MB?) and tried a 1.0 and 1.2 Tualatin on an adaptor. It wouldn't post. Haven't played with the BIOS yet. Coppermine works fine. 05-29-2003 20:41:22

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Werewolf Profile | Email Thanks PeteC. That solves one problem. So I will order a 1GHz PIII instead. I just received the CPU heat sinks and fans from serviceandproduct.net, they look great. Power supplies work too. Only one thing missing for this super-IO: Anyone have any ideas of where to get a DVDROM that fits the Profile 3? Thanks. 05-29-2003 21:26:11

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile <Werewolf> You mentioned "fans". Does serviceandproduct.net sell the rear case fan? 05-29-2003 22:04:56

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Kudzu Profile and tried a 1.0 and 1.2 Tualatin on an adaptor. It wouldn't post. Haven't played with the BIOS yet. Coppermine works fine. Are you using a Lin-Lin adapter? (Blue box, made in China.) If so, you might try setting it as listed for "Use celeron 3 (Tulatin) CPU on old mainboard for Intel chipset", but placing the 3rd jumper on a2 & a3 and see if it will post. 05-29-2003 22:58:43

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Werewolf Profile | Email <PeteC>: No, the ones serviceandproduct sell are the CPU heatsink/fan combo, which is like a spiked cylindrical aluminum cage with the circular fan inside. I bought some 60mm really quiet Vantec ThermoFlow TF6025 fans from Directron, I will see soon if they will fit the case of Profile 3s. At least the square size seems OK, just don't know if the thickness will fit on top of the CDROM cage (which I will remove since I dod not have ANY ANY ANY CDROM or DVDROM drives yet. I figured that I'd best use the case fan to help cooling for the PIII. 05-30-2003 00:27:41

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Bought but not yet recieved a Solo 9300 cd but do not know yet if it will make it. I want to take the cover and put it on a combo DVD/CDRW notebook drive that is already in place. I tried about three of them and had no problems putting them into the CD-rom sleeve already present in my unit... 05-30-2003 12:19:19

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Werewolf Profile | Email PeteC, what is the model number of your combo DVDCDRW? Maybe I can search for it. 05-30-2003 22:23:11

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile <Werewolf>I have been able to use the Teac DW-28e, Teac W-28E and a generic Delta OIP-S02400A/B0. Please note the only DVD/CDRW in this bunch is the Teac DW-28E. Also note that my GW came with the CD rom sleeve and these fit in sleeve. I have yet to replace the Profile back cover and that is why I purchased the 9300 CD rom drive (to use the cover for that drive). Earlier I mentioned that I had tried an Intel Tulatin (have 1.0 P3 and 1.2 Celeron Ghz processors)and yes I am trying to use the cheap "Lin-Lin" adaptor. Tried a number of combinations on the jumpers with no luck. I have heard good things regarding this cheap $7.00 Slocket adapter (bought a couple from Geeks) but have yet to get it to work with GW, I-Net, Gigabyte MB and MSI MB. I have tested the 2 processors as good with my Shuttle PC. I probably should have tried some more though with Gigabyte and MSI MB. Been looking to see if there is any more documentation on the jumper settings for the Lin-Lin adapter but no luck so far. Found a couple of posts regarding moving the jumper 6 to the 2-3 position but no luck with this yet. But have found out that there are 6 positions (jumpers) each with a 1-2 or 2-3 combination and numbered 1-6 clockwise from the bottom left (looking at it labeled "A" jumpers on left and "B" jumpers on right). Funny about this converter in that all the parties selling it say the same quote regarding what it has worked with. Think I could get it to post if I knew the right jumper combination. Only experimented a little bit with it for fear that I would either burn my MB or CPU. The jumpers probably are related to FSB speed, voltage, FC-1 to FC-2 etc... 05-31-2003 07:54:48

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Unrelated kind of ...been trying to buy a couple of these but really don't want to pay $200 for each of them. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2733327745&category=11159 Have seen them go for about 140...which is more reasonable... 05-31-2003 08:07:25

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Kudzu Profile Tried a number of combinations on the jumpers with no luck. I have heard good things regarding this cheap $7.00 Slocket adapter (bought a couple from Geeks) but have yet to get it to work with GW, I-Net, Gigabyte MB and MSI MB. I've got it working with v1.02-v1.10 P2Bs, Gateway WS440BX, and a Soyo V6BE+. The Gateway and Soyo boards support the default voltage for the Tulatins, the first P2B I had to adjust to slightly above 1.8v to get it to boot. Been looking to see if there is any more documentation on the jumper settings for the Lin-Lin adapter but no luck so far. Unfortunately, the back of the box is about all the documentation you'll find available from the manufacturer. Moving the a1 jumper to a2-a3, with the rest set for Celeron 3 will give you a default of 1.85v at 100mhz, which was sufficient for my intel boards without the newer VRM to test boot the Tulatin without harming the chip. Hope you find a way to get the Profile working with one. 05-31-2003 18:18:38

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) KaseKracker Profile | Email To those of you that are not able to fit CD drives:Laptop CD/DVD Rom drives are usually built on a standard form factor and contrary to popular belief a Toshiba drive will fit an HP.What I mean is that once you strip the bracketry away most drives are the same physical size the differences being only in the laptop mounting and drive interfaces.Check this http://www.hitechcafe.com/eshop/product.asp?sku=DW%2D28E&dept_id=3 06-04-2003 09:00:04

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) serisman Profile Also check out this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31564&item=3417750387 I just picked one up from this eBayer yesterday for $90.99 + $10 shipping. He seems to have several auctions for the same thing. 06-04-2003 12:14:42

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Yes bought one a while ago for my daughters PC and now I hoping to get another one for my son's PC. It's a nice drive. 06-04-2003 21:32:40

Profile-3 Rear Case Fan (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Anyone have any suggestions for a quiet rear case fan? Is a rear case fan needed? Been leaving mine one and have noticed that CPU fan is more off than on. Also an FYI regarding the 9300 CD-Rom. Part of it is trimmed to fit correctly on opening but it's not much better than just trimming out a conventional slim drive. 06-08-2003 07:28:31

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email On the cd-rom business there was an issue of finding a cdrom drive for the Profile 1's as those drives require a slave or master setting instead of the normal cable select... According to to http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3418270065&category=31564 This drive has a switch to change the IDE selection, so this drive should work on the Profile 1's by selecting master or slave. Most the slim cdrom drives don't allow this and are cable select only.... 06-09-2003 07:35:06

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) LD37 Profile anyone tried a Via Nehemiah M10000 CPU in the Profile 1? a 1GHz with the Nehemiah core is only about $35 ...i am hoping it runs cool enough to get rid of the fan, perhaps replaced with a large heatsink ideally i want to get this in my A/V rack as a touchscreen for my mp3 collection but the fan noise is just too much 06-16-2003 08:04:07

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) YouBecha Profile M10000 for $35? Maybe $135 if you are lucky! 06-17-2003 12:22:00

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) serisman Profile I think this is what you are talking about: http://www.knowledgemicro.com/detail.php?p=VIAC3-1G-N&c=pw I did a little research on this CPU and it looks like it requires a heat sink with active cooling (fan). Also, you have to have a motherboard that supports taulin processors. I don't think the Profile I has this support. The later versions of the Profile III do support this, but in that case you would be much better off with a celeron 1.4ghz. I looked at some benchmarks of the Via processor vs. the celeron and the celeron is way better anyway. With either processor you will need active cooling. 06-17-2003 13:20:58

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) serisman Profile $32.34 for a celeron 1 ghz that works. http://www.knowledgemicro.com/detail.php?name=CL1GFCPGA Also a very nice low profile heat sink that works fine with the celeron 1 ghz. http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=355010 06-17-2003 13:24:46

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) serisman Profile Here is the heat sink for cheaper: http://www.buymicro.com/default.cfm?loadlist=071587 or http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop.cgi?ACTION=thispage&thispage=01100500U017_B071587P.shtml&ORDER_ID=!ORDERID! 06-17-2003 13:38:15

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) serisman Profile or http://www.buy.com/retail/product_jump.asp?sku=10313202 06-17-2003 13:39:33

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Werewolf Profile | Email Help re DVDROM: I got a DVDROM Toshiba C2502 off eBay and plugged it in my now working Profile III. Unfortunately, the computer won't recognize it!! The drive spins, and the tray opens, so I know there is power. I cannot find the setting in the BIOS to recognize it, or is there a jumper setting? Help? By the way, I have a PIII 1000 and it runs fairly cool under Windows XP with the heatsink I mentioned above (got it off Gateway). Had to chop the heatsink to fit under the small round grill. The fan that came with it is 2cm thick, and fits the case fan over the DVD drive as well. Really cool at 32.3C. 06-17-2003 18:34:03

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Try the auto setting in the BIOS. I have had good luck with all slim drives tried on the Profile 3. What kind of Sandra specs are you getting with the 1 Ghz Celeron CPU? 06-17-2003 19:03:40

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Soopaman Profile This thread has caused me to add yet another soldier to my army of Linux Hacker devices. This post is just to let you know that if you were looking for a cheap boxed retail processor (make sure your profile/device supports it), ebayer "eurocomrocks" is selling a few Intel Boxed Celeron 1.2-1.3GHz FCPGA2 processors. I am not this guy, nor will I make any commision, rather I just wanted to share a good deal with a board that has shared so much with me. Also, I'd be lying if I wasn't estatic that I recieved my processor 22hrs after the auction ended. Here's the link before I can think of more things to talk about: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=eurocomrocks&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25 06-18-2003 11:58:48

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) serisman Profile PeteC, I will have to run some specs tonight. All in all I am very pleased with the performance though (it is fast enough for what I wanted it for) I use this machine mostly as a web browser/email/mp3/dvd. The wife actually uses it more than I do, and she loves it. I ended up installing a combo dvd/cdrw drive as well as a 60gb 5400rpm notebook hard drive (runs cooler than a desktop hard drive). I am still having problems with the power button (the machine powers on when you plug it in, and if you shut it down the power button will not restart it), and there doesn't seem to be any battery backed up cmos (you have to reset the bios and date/time settings everytime your plug it in). Other than these issues, the machine is great. Soopaman, Be careful... most of the CPU's that are listed under that eBay ID are FC-PGA2. Make sure that the Profile you have supports this type of processor. Most of the Profiles out there will only work with a FC-PGA1 processor. This limits us to a 1.1 ghz celeron or a 1.1 ghz pIII. There are some Profile 3s out there that do support the Taulin processors however in which case you should be ok up to 1.4 ghz. Just make sure you know which revision you are getting. 06-18-2003 16:24:42

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Soopaman Profile Seris, the ebayer let me know that I am getting the latest, and last revision of the Gateway Profile 3, the one with onboard ethernet, and firewire. With what you just said, I am hoping that I didn't just buy a processor that won't work, 'cause I thought I got in on a brilliant deal. What is the condition of your profile, and are you planning to mod it at all since you have everything working well? 06-18-2003 23:49:03

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile <Serisman>My Profile III actually was in very good condition with no scuff marks on any part of the case and screen was like new. Are you using an original Profile 3 combo CDRW/DVD or did you mod it to fit? I modded mine but would still rather have an original. Currently just have a 500Mhz and 256Megs of memory but am probably going to drop the 1Ghz Celeron...originally testing borrowing the kids pc's processors....My bios seems to hold it's features after both a shut down and unplugging the unit. I did notice that originally the 256Meg 133Mhz memory stick would cause a weird boot up message...then switched to a 100Mhz memory stick and all is well. Upgraded the BIOS but it appears kind of unhackable as I would like to add more 810E features...GW locked it down pretty tight though.... 06-19-2003 16:22:20

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email Anyone who got the latest Profile 3 having any problem with the unit powering up and then shutting down? I have one (it's one of the one's that's the latest revision) and it's giving me a major headache!! one or two times I have managed to get into CMOS setup but usually it just shut down. It seems like the longer I try turning it on, the shorter the time it will stay on. At first it wasn't detecting the keyboard, and now it does.... I have this feeling that it's a bios issue but I can't put my finger on it. Anyone know what the jumper on the mainboard are for? I noticed that Jp2 & Jp11 are bios protect, this might be the key that PeteC needs to get into it.... 06-20-2003 12:14:31

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email Anyone out there with a working 3501139 Profile 3 that can make me a bios recovery disk? I am thinking that the problem with mine might be that someone loaded the wrong bios to it, there are two different ones on Gateway's site and the way that mine is behaving I am thinking it's a screwed up bios. There is a bios recovery option jumper inside the on the main board, if someone can go into setup and create a recovery disk and send me an image; that would be great!! Any suggestions on creating the image would be great too... FYI - the reason I believe the bios is messed up is that twice now I been able to cause a bios checksum error and actually see the processor id'ed as a Pentium 3 "b" with some other stuff I didn't get as I was not fast enought. Putting in a slower processor allowed me time to get into setup (500 mhz p3) while a 1ghz p3 allowed me no time to reach setup; it's almost like it's a clock cycle/heat issue... wierd, really wierd... 06-20-2003 15:17:48

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile <BigDog> I have an earlier edition of the MB. Reading about this specific Intel Board (810E) on another board (dot.station)...have one of those as yet to be opened. I had an issue with mine where I had 133Mhz memory and saw a "serial" error on boot...replaced memory with 100Mhz and it worked...think it had to do with video/bus speed... Can you force the beginning of a disaster bios recovery (IE start booting from a floppy..think by hitting the <insert> key while booting? Interesting that Intel tweaked this bios and gave vendors many options regarding the locking down of this specific bios. I have tried to tweak mine but have yet done a disaster recovery...current Gateway Profile 3 Bios is limited. If you can then you can create a bios recovery diskette utilizing intel's stuff: BIOS Upgrade Instructions 1. Insert an IBM* formatted 3.5-inch disk into the floppy drive 2. Unzip the BIOS files to the disk by typing "SW A:" 3. Run instboot.exe to create a bootable disk 4. Reboot the system. If you are using a USB keyboard, ensure that Legacy USB is enabled within BIOS setup. 5. The upgrade process will start automatically 6. The upgrade process takes 1-2 minutes to complete, a 3-3-3 beep code indicates a successful BIOS upgrade 7. Remove the BIOS upgrade disk 8. Press the reset button on your computer Finally was able to get a Profile 3 CD rom and wondering now if I could rip it apart and use a combo CDRW/DVD instead of what it has... 06-24-2003 05:49:38

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email Man.. I hope your not that one that beat me to that deal on eBay for the Profile 3 DVD drive? I went to a car show and forgot about the auction... drive only went for something like $45 bucks... No I can't get anything out of the unit to start a bios recovery, it shuts back off after a couple seconds. I am asking if the friendly eBay seller will exchange it but so far my emial messages have not been returned. My next plan is I contacted Jack (Badflash) and I'm sending him my bios chip with the correct bios from Gateway; first he can read the image off and compare it to the correct one. if the two images match then I screwed but if there is a difference then he's going to apply the correct bios to the chip and when he sends it back then I will have "hopefully" a working Profile 3. The last ditch effort will be to part the unit out on eBay, the LCD and a few other parts are good so hopefully I can recoup some of the money I have in it. I am thinking about finding out how many Profiles that seller on ebay has and possibly see if he wants to sell all of them as a lot, as personally I believe that you could make more money on the units if you just sold them complete running computers with power supplies. This guy apparently doesn't want to mess around with them but rather just get rid of them. Put 1Ghz celerons in them with 128 mb ram... $250 investment per unit, you could make $200 on each by selling them for $450 and that's resonable thought, some would say to charge even more.... 06-24-2003 14:58:46

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email I got my Profile 3 working... Not sure what the problem was but I believe it was tied to the bios; I swapped a bios chip from an older Profile 3 to see if it behaved the same with not staying powered on, that didn't work (red power light when it powered on instead of green) so I put the orginal chip back in and it worked perfectly!! I managed to then update the bios to the current one listed on gateway's support site and so far no problem. I used both 100mhz and 133mhz memory, next now I have a 1.2 PIII processor on it's way and hopefully I will be set. Hopefully this will be my car MP3 player as I putting in a wireless min-pci card which will allow me to just pull in the driveway and down load Mp3's to the unit, I wish it had a VGA out like the Profile 1's do so I would install a small LCD on the dash but this will do perfectly! I suppose the problem might have been a badly seated bios, but all I know is now it's working! 06-28-2003 06:05:21

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) LD37 Profile i've got a couple of pics of a new setup i have mostly completed...it's my Gateway Profile 1 with an ELO touchscreen installed nicely behind the front bezel...it was a P3 700 but i swapped in the Via C3 1GHz Nehemiah because it runs cooler and only requires a heatsink, no fan, never had any heating issues using the profile's heatsink...the only noise is a little bit from the hard drive...it's got a Cisco wireless PCMCIA card...i've also painted the case black as this is going to be a wireless touchscreen MP3 panel in my A/V rack that pulls files from my server the only thing i am undecided on is sound, the sound in mine doesn't work...there's no expansion obviously so i am thinking of using the USB Sound Blaster from Creative...anyone use one of these? anyway, here's a couple pics http://myhtpc.teamoverkill.com/myHTPC/myHTPC2.jpg http://myhtpc.teamoverkill.com/myHTPC/myHTPC1.jpg 07-07-2003 19:24:57

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) BigDog Profile | Email I have to get pictures of my Profile 3 up on the net, I put a Linksys WMP 55AG dual wireless mini-pci in it and with an antenna and pigtail from http://www.netgate.com/kits.html I am getting great wireless connections from it (the antenna that I took of the regular pci card worked horribly!! Since the unit now has an external RP-TNC antenna connecter which the rubber duck antenna mounts on, I could put a mobile antenna on it and go war driving (with of course a DC/AC block in the car) I am considering getting a 90 watt 12volt converter for my car and mount the whole thing in it but the darn thing is so expensive; so far after getting a 1.2ghz PIII I have only about $300 in whole thing considering I already had the hard drive and memory laying around. I have it in the kitchen right now and I am afraid the kids are getting too used to it! 07-09-2003 09:16:01

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Werewolf Profile | Email LD37: Looks great! Three questions. One, what program did you use to get that tempurature on the screen? I did not know there was a temp sensor on board - could not get MBM to find it. Two, what operating system and player programs are you running on your Profile 1? I am thinking of using my Profile 3 for the same thing. Three, I wonder if that CPU is compatible with the Profile III. The VIA websites says some BIOS changes may be needed? 07-11-2003 00:31:27

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) LD37 Profile i am running Win2kPro...the temp is displayed with MBM, can't remember which sensor or how i configured it off the top of my head...it took a little playing around to get it to work the frontend is myHTPC - www.myhtpc.net - definitely the best frontend for a lot of uses, HTPC, jukebox, MAME, etc player programs, right now is just WMP9 used through myHTPC...eventually i am hoping someone writes a plugin so i can use media player classic with myHTPC...but for now, with a touchscreen, the best thing for me is WMP9 no idea if the via CPU is compatible with the Profile 3...i just took a gamble on mine to see if it would work and it did...the CPU is only $35 from knowledge micro and other places so it wasn't too big a risk 07-14-2003 15:27:30

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile I know that this is a long shot, but I'll ask anyways... Does anyone have a grey spacer ring from the Profile 1.8's that they want to sell? Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 11-23-2004 12:53:29

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile I don't have one but Happy Thanksgiving Glitch! (and all on BBS!) 11-24-2004 09:07:45

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Rashal Profile Ive got a profile 1.5 400mhz, Been trying to see if there is a way to make it into a stand-alone monitor, anyone have any luck with this? Other that that, Ive been thinking about parting it out on ebay, if anyone has info please e-mail me at antonio_g at yahoo dot com. Everything still works, working dvd-rom, disk drive, 10gig HD, mobo. I currently have winxp sp2 running (at an ok speed) 02-17-2005 14:56:07

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Curious Profile I just got a Profile 3. I'm trying to determine if the motherboard is good. I tried a 12v 4a adapter but got nothing. Before I spend $40-50 for a gateway adapter, 12v 6.67a, is there any way to test the motherboard with another type of power supply? 11-08-2005 14:16:25

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) radarman Profile If all you need is 12V, why not just use a standard AT or ATX power supply? Yes, you will need to either modify the PSU's wiring harness (or preferably an extension harness), but most power supplies will provide more than enough current to get something like this going. I keep a handful of mATX supplies around just for this purpose. (they supply a clean +12, +5, and +3.3 - which is useful for a lot of projects) 11-10-2005 10:21:01

RE:Gateway Profile (modified 0 times) Curious Profile I tried the AT power supply. No go. I think the motherboard is dead. Anybody know where I can get a motherboard for a Profile 3. Thanks 11-11-2005 23:07:33

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