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New MessageNorand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) 02U2
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For those that live in the Seattle area, If you live near Vetco in Bellevue, go in and check them out once in awhile...

They have been getting the Intermec/Norand 6640 Pen tablets on occasion.

I bought 2 near closing time today for $50 each. and 1 docking station for $20, Really interesting little machines...

One unit has a badly scratched screen and the other units screen is near perfect!

Appear to be 10.4" Trans reflective type color screens.

Both missing 2.5" harddrives and PCMCIA wireless card.

The good screen one has a coaxial feed through from the PCMCIA slot to an external SMA antenna connector.

It requires 18VDC @4 amps. (According to the Vetco guy.)
The SONY style laptop plug fits purrfectly! Lucky I have some adjustable voltage "Fellowes" SmartAdapter 60W laptop ac Power adapters fished out "D-Divin".

Spec's at,

http://www.pencomputing.com/PenWindows/pen_key/6640.html


http://www.interaxgrp.com/6640.html

05-18-2003 20:33:12

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) KaseKracker
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$50 is an excellant price for that webpad.Everytime I try to bid on one, the eBay price shoots up unbelievably high!I would pay you a bounty for one as I have been itchin' to Krack one open.I really the size and the realatively fast cpu should be able to play my mp3 and mpeg1 files over the network
TIA
05-21-2003 22:13:41

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) jsmmd
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Anyone willing to get one for me? email if so.
jsmmd / MethodicJon
05-22-2003 09:54:47

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) 02U2
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They are all gone for now. The sales dude said they could be getting some more but he's not sure, They have some type of contract with intermec and the get various lots of surplus stuff.

There was one left on hold till "Tuesday or Wednesday" for a guy. The store dude said if "on hold guy" did not show up Wednesday it would be available.

DANG, he showed up Wednesday afternoon...

Well I HAD to spend some money, so I bought a 2.4GHZ Telex Yagi there,


One thing about that store, Some stuff moves FAST!

05-22-2003 13:29:48

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) DurocShark
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I just won a 6620 for $10+15 shipping. I'm thinking car toy. heh

Man, I'm getting too much of this crap. Maybe need to hawk my iOpeners... heh

06-01-2003 09:14:32

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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oh really? on ebay? i couldnt find that on ebay!!! damn it
x-O
06-01-2003 11:50:36

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) applescotty
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I also purchased a 6620 on ebay. I went for the $35 one. Hasn't arrived yet, hopefully soon. I've been looking around for info on it, and haven't found much. I'm particularly interested in the Pen Services drivers. Has anyone else played with one of these?
06-03-2003 16:32:27

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) sarcosis
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Also just purchased a 6620.
am interested in getting this adapted to my 1987 xr4ti eec tuner.

already read the faq available at the intermec webpage of the 6622 device
some changes on the device are as follows
1: rj45 usable from the device instead of the docking station.
2: full duplex of the com port (com is shared with the touchscreen device)
3: GPS working
4: getting copy of the TOOLKIT cd from intermec would be nice (mostly win95 drivers and testing software)
5: upgrade proc
6: upgrade mem
7: replace wireless modem connection with wireless nic B will be fine.

anyone know of someone whom has started this thread or page yet.
There are several of these 6620 devices available from the same person on ebay

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&krd=1&from=R8&MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&query=norand+6620

anyone interested lets get somethign started should get mine in a week or so.

S
they are the grey screens.

06-03-2003 22:16:17

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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hey! that wasnt a 6640! but 6620 on ebay you pointed i thought was a 6640 , since 6620 is monochrome(gags) and 6640 is a color model
so ebay didnt have 6640's listing
and those on ebay at 10.00 buy now doesnt come with ac adapter but you can use cigarette lighter plug in to a 12v cigar plug wall wart by readioshack ive used it on my t200cs pencomputer :)
pretty good wall wart
06-04-2003 04:51:44

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 1 times) applescotty
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Sarcosis:
Sounds like a good set of mods to do. I emailed a question to crc@norand.com, the support email address listed in the technical reference manual, asking about the availability of the toolkit CD. Couldn't find a similar email address for Intermec. I have a feeling the norand address is a black hole. From what I read, all the ethernet hardware is on the device, so hopefully rewiring it to the RJ45 connector won't be too difficult.
Windows 98 would be a nice upgrade, but I don't know anything about the touchscreen drivers. Will the 95 ones work with 98?
I wonder what the prospects are of installing linux on this. I haven't had any experience using linux with a touchscreen, so I'm not sure if it's very usable or not. If the touchscreen interface is serial, a snooper should give the information we'd need to write a driver.
Anyway, anxiously awaiting the arrival of mine, should be a fun project.
06-04-2003 08:52:07

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) applescotty
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Yahoo group for anyone interested. Just reference manuals there now.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pen_key/
06-04-2003 09:40:31

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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it hit me that 6620's with vehicle docking station were used alot in police cars too ive seen one recently ,no question it was old 6620's too that's how the wireless modem were used to access database
06-04-2003 12:40:03

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) sarcosis
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on the 6620.
I sent a help desk request to the Intermec tech support yesterday regarding the toolkit cd.
They stated a part number.
The part number is in the FAQ of the 6620 on thier website.
They stated that the cd is not a free download and that I would need to purchase it
from either the original vendor of the product or I can call Intermec sales and order one.
This leads me to believe they still have the units available.
Will try getting a cd from one of the third party venders using the serial number when I get my unit in. :)

In the faq it states they are all windows 95 drivers and include the file names of the needed .vxd files.

VWBUG19
the 10$ units on ebay do not come with hardrives nor do they come with anytype of charger.
the 35$ units have a car charger
the 45$ units have a wall/battery charger.
there are also more batteries and chargers available on the ebay page under Intermec searches.

Thanks for the link on the yahoo groups.

Updates in the future.

06-04-2003 17:46:04

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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hey check out http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2734164151&category=39980 it's got a camera in there and it use mips processor and os is win ce look like a laptop but it is not these are 6651's selling for 389.00!!! 23 left
but i'd prefer the 6640's as more flexable
06-05-2003 04:12:27

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) ctorkildson
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I got one of the $35 units w/AC adapter. It came with a 2.5" 2GB drive and a wireless modem for the Mobiltex network. Everything worked as specified. I couldn't get the GPS to work. The GPS test program said it couldn't get com 5 to talk, so I guess that's where it's supposed to be. I didn't open up the device much to see if there's a GPS chip in there. The 2.5" drive takes up the normal 2 PCMCIA slots, so they tack a bulging cover on the back to add 2 more slots. I had no problem at all getting a 3com Ethernet card working and it was on my LAN.

I moved Win98 to the hard drive but had no joy in upgrading. The 98 install program hangs early in the process. I wonder if the drive might have some problems so replacing it with a spare is only my list of things to do.

I don't have a 802.11 card that has an external antenna (looking on eBay for one), and there's not room inside for one with a built in. I got a Cisco 340 to work by leaving the back cover off, so that's not a problem.

It's a nice toy, but pretty hefty. It really is industrial strength.

06-05-2003 04:55:11

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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if you looking for wireless pccard i recomends orinoco silver or gold these are the best design and have built in tiny jack for hooking up ext atenna and the reason for best make is it has good antenna desin that is stronger than any brand yes i do have orinoco card in my t200 ,i did buy netgear wireless card and it sucked worst
06-05-2003 05:08:27

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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while digging through few diffrent search engine on 6640's i came accross a 6642 it has video out here's the url for those curious is http://www.touchsystems.co.uk/6642.htm intresting? also 6622 is similar to 6642 too but diffrent and it was replacment version to 6620 preducsor
im still digging for 6640's sale in used/reconditioned area hmm... if one of you find any 6640's for sale somewhere let me know
06-05-2003 06:02:45

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) banshee35
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OK, I had to pick one of these guys up from E-Bay as well, but being a poor student I opted for the $10 one. I have a laptop drive laying around to throw in it but am concerned about getting drivers for it. I think I lost my copy of Windows 95 somewhere as well. So, I was wondering if someone could be kind enough to provide an ISO for theirs that is working? Thanks in advance.
06-05-2003 23:59:29

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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has anyone ever tried beos personal edition or beos 5 pro installed on those babies? and will it work?
06-11-2003 19:32:04

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) Epsilon1
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I was browsing e-bay and noticed there is a Intermec 6640 available.
I AM NOT the seller and have NO relations.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2737874615&category=39980

06-23-2003 12:05:31

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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SHHH! AN EBAY LINK!
but anyway i came across more than 10 units for 75.00 to 100.00 on 6640's but they are monochrome(gags) and they do works email the guy at sales@barcodetrader.com
one caveat is there are only 5 ac powersupplies for it he had 10+ units
let him know vwbug19 sent you
06-23-2003 17:41:12

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Thanks for the info vwbug19!

I ordered another unit for spare parts. $75 plus $10 shipping.

BTW, barcodetrader.com is based here in Seattle!

06-24-2003 18:13:55

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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yep good for you , and im still looking for 2 color display version of 6640's
06-24-2003 21:10:23

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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oh one more thing on 6640's are the processor upgradeable or just soldered in?
06-24-2003 21:13:47

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) 02U2
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The processor card appears to be an intermec design? It has intermec copyright silk screened/etched on the cpu card.
Kinda looks like this> http://pcrmicro.com/inmobpii30cp1.html
06-24-2003 21:39:15

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) 02U2
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FYI, It LOOKS like the 6640 linked on ebay in the earlier post may be a Mono screen machine.
I'm not absolutly sure of that, But my machine is color and my screen appears different, has more of a slight bluish tint to it not powered up.


One thing I feel good about with barcodetrader it stated on the website there is a 3 day satisfaction period.

06-25-2003 22:08:46

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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i know the 6640 on ebay were monochrome i did asked the seller and got a reply from him , darn i hate monochrome!!!
but they are ok for those colorblind users
06-26-2003 15:21:26

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The 6640 I ordered from barcodetrader was waiting for me when I got home today.

Worst than expected the monchrome display is HORRIBLE.

But I'm happy with it because it came with a 6GB Harddrive with Win98, pen software and more(Spare parts).
A charger and small Cherry ps2 keyboard was included! All IMHO worth the $85.

06-26-2003 18:50:02

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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told you ya! reason monochrome really sucks big time and you can see the big diffrence between the color and b&w is the size of the screen a color is 10.4" and monochrome is a bit smaller and diffrent color(powered off)
good for you to gain a 6gb hd and worth the money
06-26-2003 19:51:11

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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oh dang it forgot to ask if monochrome and color versions internals are same or diffrent?
take a look at both inside
06-26-2003 19:56:25

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) 02U2
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This nifty utility* evidently backs up all drivers on a system already running. I have not tried it yet but will soon! I plan on doing a "Clean W98 install"

http://www.jermar.com/

*http://www.jermar.com/wdrvbck1.exe

06-27-2003 13:53:15

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vwbug19,

I have not taken the monochome apart yet. These are held together with about 14-16 diffrent size screws. I will have to make a cardboard screw location template (outline of the 6640 with small holes for each screw location to serve as a reference).

06-27-2003 13:58:22

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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14-16 diffrent screws? that's getting intresting! plot thickens
06-27-2003 14:39:10

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I had my doubts at first, but I was surprised. The 6640 has legacy Usb support. Plugged in a Mini Usb VIK and it allowed me to access the bios @ the F2 prompt and make selections.

Maybe I'll have time to remove the 16 or so different screws on the backside later today and compare the mono/color units.

06-28-2003 06:01:25

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Well got it apart. About 24 Screws in all counting the 2 in the carpet somewhere...

I believe the screens appear to be interchangable but MAY have to change the bios to the correct version to support color?

Touch screen appears the same it is in near perfect physical condition compaired to the second color machine I bought from Vetco. Sometime in the near future I will try and remove and replace the scratched up one with this one.

CPU card is different in component layout vs >http://store4.yimg.com/I/pcrmicro_1742_1296062 It's physical size and mounting hole pattern appear the same. Again it has Intermec copyright stenciled on it so it may be specialized to intermec machines only. Propritory? (sp)

The inverter for the backlight is a very simple module! No eeprom on it.

2 (I believe type II) Pcmcia card slots.

The Ram appears to be standard So-Dimm laptop ram. Micron MT4LSDT464HG-10EC3 32MB PC100. (Dell)http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=MT4LSDT464HG-10EC3++&ei=UTF-8

06-28-2003 12:12:28

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Looks like the 6640 Mainboard is populated to support both Mono and color screens. Different types of cables are used and sockets are in different locations on each type.

It appears the Cpu cartridge/module may have the bios on it? I swapped Cpu's with the mono unit and now it boots with an Intermec logo. Previously it was blank.

Some of the chips onboard are,

MicroTouch 19-531 Rev-2 ICS1821

Crystal CS4235-KQ EP

Maxim Max213ECAI

6640EC.MOT (I believe For Motorola radio option.)

Ricoh RL 5C476A (Next to the PCMCIA sockets).


Nappy time arrives...Yawn...

06-29-2003 13:57:35

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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isnt that max213ecai a serial rs 232 chip? for those serial ports
06-29-2003 14:10:35

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) Weekend_warrior1999
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I Just bought 4 of the Norand 6620 pen tablet pc's I was wondering if anyone had any info on whether or not I could put a color screen on it.
If anyone has any info, please e-mail, I would greatly appreciate it, thanx
Weekend_warrior1999@yahoo.com
07-20-2003 22:39:13

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) zerozero
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Just in case anyone wants one cheap... an e-bay seller "tomkatcomputers" is selling the 6620 units (monochrome) for $45. He's also selling units without HD or Power for $13.

I picked up one of each, hope to get them soon.

Also, please check out the PEN*KEY and PEN*KEY2 groups on yahoo. If ANYONE has gpshook.vxd or jupiter95.exe please post your files up there. As far as I can tell, nobody has any drivers to drive the GPS that is supposed to be in these things.

-Nate

09-01-2003 11:59:48

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) zerozero
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These things are great, after some work, I got mine running... The perfect wardriving tablet. Choose your OS too, Linux and Windows support, just so long as it can deal with 133mhz...
11-04-2003 11:11:26

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I've scored on a case of 50 unused still wrapped in plastic 6620 Li-ION Battery packs if anyone in Seattle is interested.
PN 318-005-001 7.4V 2400 mAH
04-03-2004 08:15:10

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A2002EM7@Yahoo dot com
04-03-2004 08:18:57

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vfrickey
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Got two 6620s for $20 each on EBay, and two memory expansion modules for $10 a pop. This thread rocks - so much info on these devices.

Anyone get one with a GPS out there yet? I understand that it's internal to the unit - a hidden PCMCIA slot supports it, going by the documentation.

I liked the idea of "wardriving" with a 6620 as a dashboard PC.

There's that line in the adapter socket which can be polled digitally - many cars have onboard diagnostic ports that communicate the car's status by brief "on" voltage swings - three swings means x engine parameter, and the swings that come after it are the value of tha parameter. I'd be willing to bet that conditioning and buffering this signal to a digital 1 or 0 would be easy, after which you connect the charger port input wire to the conditioned signal from the engine. A short program in VB would be all you need to have verbose event reporting about the mechanical status of your car's engine.

And, of course, if you're the lucky contestant who got a GPS module with his Norand, that would be special in a dashboard PC. My sister just gave me her copy of Delorme's "Streets and Cities" (or something like that), and I understand that this program is GPS-aware. Step aside, UPS guy, I'll navigate!

Another use for the GPS if one exists in your 6620 is a variation on orienteering, where someone gives you map coordinates (degrees, minutes and seconds of lat and long) and you have to find the spot with your GPS - which here in metro Denver might mean climbing down or up a cliff, burrowing thru snow, or in the case of one intrepid crew, rapelling into abandoned ICBM silos. Sounds like fun.

05-08-2004 16:57:44

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vfrickey
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Oh, yeah, I forgot to ask - anyone have schematics for the 6620 and/or the docking stations? Or a docking station they'd care to sell? I'd be interested in either the vehicle dock or the desktop one, or both for the right price.

At least with the schematics, I could tell whether building an interface to the docking port at the bottom (to bring out the parallel port and other goodies in there) is a feasible proposition. Either the 6620 or docking station schematics ought to have that information.

I'd probably prefer to have a custom dock for my car anyway, with the theft and car invasion problem we have - one night someone got in my landlady's car just to smoke some blunts. Really nasty blunts. But nothing came up missing, at least.

05-08-2004 17:04:45

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) vfrickey
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Speaking of schematics, the link where there are supposed to be some, /http://store4.yimg.com/I/pcrmicro_1742_1296062 doesn't come up on my browser. Is this a problem with the site or my software?
05-08-2004 17:07:11

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Thanks for all the replys,

All the 6620 batteries have been spoken for. If I run across any more I will let you guys know.

05-08-2004 20:06:41

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Good deal! Not my auction! Brand new condition with GPS.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39980&item=3478965722&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

05-09-2004 08:56:08

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Not my auction, Not affiliated,

Looks like they decided to raise the price a bit (up $75) from the last auction.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39980&item=3480263709&rd=1

05-11-2004 10:09:50

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) paulcm2
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I got one of the norand 6620 tablets also, it has only the original 16 meg of ram, anyone know of a source of memory modules. Thanks
e-mail me at paulcm2@excite.com
05-19-2004 14:13:23

New MessageRE:Norand 6640 pen tablet (modified 0 times) ironsoulreaver
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ok i bought a norand 6640. i used penalign.exe to calibrate the pen. now my pen wont work outside of a certin set rectangular area. the area bounded by the center of the targets on the penaligne program where i tapped the pen. it changes the bounds with the resolution... does anyone have all the software for this device and has anyone come accross the same issue. i am wondering if these drivers were beta... i tried to format the drive and i flashed and reset the bios i got nothing. it still does it. this is the weirdest thing. i know its software but where are these settings stored? could it be in the 70MB flash drive? if you have any answers please email me ironsoulreaver@yahoo.com
04-25-2005 04:26:09

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