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New MessageNew I-Appliance (modified 0 times) piperpacer
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Heads up! There is a new I-Appliance to be marketed Check out the link. Its a handsome unit. Why in the world would they use the old Geode CPU/chipset when the Via mini-itx is available? I'm sure the hackers here could come up with something better,faster and cheaper.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1184507,00.asp

07-09-2003 06:42:18

New MessageRE:New I-Appliance (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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icks! considering it has built in wireless lan and 2 lan ports and an hefty 1,350.00 price tag!
07-09-2003 09:14:51

New MessageRE:New I-Appliance (modified 0 times) BigDog
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Yikes! with a price tag of $1300 it will soon be another story in failed marketing!!

I just got my Gateway Profile 3 up and going, it has firewire, usb, flat tft display, 802.11 AG & B wireless, 10/100 ethernet, 1.2 Ghz PII, 40Gb HD, 256 memory and considering I already had the memory and HD laying around; I have about $300 in it.

When will these people learn that you can't put $1000 plus price tag on something which has a 300,hz processor and 64 mb of ram....

07-09-2003 09:23:11

New MessageRE:New I-Appliance (modified 0 times) rlyacht
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Who wants to predict how much it will cost on tigerdirect in a while?
07-09-2003 12:20:14

New MessageRE:New I-Appliance (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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i'd bet on it would be around 400.00 at tigerdirect
07-09-2003 16:55:15

New MessageRE:New I-Appliance (modified 0 times) LD37
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when will companies learn?

seriously, there is NO market for an internet appliance

but when they plummet in price i will pick one up and hack it :)

07-10-2003 11:15:57

New MessageRE:New I-Appliance (modified 0 times) JhonR
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I'm sure there *is* a market -- either that it's not ripe, or they haven't come up with the right approach yet. A good example would the the Apple Newton. Fantastic little machine that still sees a lot of use today -- but Apple took a bath on that. A few years later, the Palm Pilot came out. SMASH. Nearly the same idea, just different timing.

Maybe when a HDTV standard is hammered out, we'll see set-top boxes appear again (like the webplayer). But with better resolution. And maybe it will sell. And maybe it will come standard with HDTVs.

My *guess* is you'll probably see some type of hybrid internet appliance/palm device take off. Right now, most PDAs+WiFi+Service is just way too expensive. When the price is right and the screen is a usable size (maybe folding?), it'll happen.

07-10-2003 14:23:18

New MessageRE:New I-Appliance (modified 0 times) Svartalf
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Ha! Another Geode based IA.

They choose this design because it's pretty much a whole low-power x86
system on basically 2-3 total chips, not including memory. The problems
with this system are not the clock speed, but rather the way that they
achieved the low-power status. A Geode has a frontside bus speed of only
33MHz. This allows them to lower the power and be able to omit level 2
cache in a design at the expense of overall performance. As a Video on
Demand set-top box that is boosted by a hardware decoder card, this isn't
a bad idea- as a webpad or IA, it's not so good of an idea.

This one's worse- it's a Geode based unit AND expensive. VIA's already
partnered with people that are selling ultralightweight laptops and
webpads using a laptop geared variant of the Eden chipset. Prices are
expected to be around $799 with something like 256-512Mb of RAM.

As for there being no market, well, I wouldn't say that, per se. It's
more of a "being way too early" and having a completely wrong-headed
approach to the whole idea. Combine that with stupid business models
(I mean, really, not a SINGLE one of them really had any other plans
different from Netpliance's...), a general lack of real broadband
options, and relying on the piss-poor resolution of the televisions
out there- you've got a sure-fire loser at that point.

In my not so humble opinion, what they should have went after was an
"armored" low-cost PC or PC-like machine. Something with the ability
to be expanded as the need arose for things like word processing, etc.-
but something that they can't get virii, etc. on. Something that's
got expandability, but can't be easily broken (unlike PC's...). It
won't be cheaper than the cheapest PC, but it'll be fairly close to
it and it'll have the plus of being largely unbreakable.

Once you see HD monitors filter down into the realm of the general
populace, you'll see more of what I'm talking about pop up. Not
really an IA, but more of a CA (Computing Appliance).

07-18-2003 10:41:06

New MessageRE:New I-Appliance (modified 0 times) zmoz
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Internet appliances would be GREAT - if they were around $100 or something like $50 a month for the appliance and service for grandma. The way things are right now for $700 you can get a full laptop for god sake. For $1300 you can get a loaded laptop or a REALLY loaded desktop. Or if you're really cheap you can get an OK desktop for $100 and a cheap ISP. Why would you buy something for more that lets you do less?
07-18-2003 16:11:58

New MessageRE:New I-Appliance (modified 0 times) beam2
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I've gotta say...I do like the looks of this device. If it were maybe a third of the price I'd have to have one. But I'm not clear on whether its Internet Explorer is the same as or more than Pocket Internet Explorer via Windows CE. And does this device have ability to download images and text onto storage cards? Also you'd want Flash animations to show up...
07-27-2003 19:58:48

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