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New MessagePC104 Computers (modified 0 times) ctorkildson
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You guys have been really boring the last few weeks . I'm sure you've been playing with new toys, I sure have. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3746&item=2750094831Here's the second auction this guy had for these systems. I bought 3 of them the first time and am really happy. Made one into a music server with the addition of a 120GB drive (and processor/memory). Surprisingly modern motherboard with USB, Ethernet, Audio, etc.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3746&item=2750094831

Chris

08-31-2003 06:41:16

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Interesting! Good info!

One thing though...the power supply looks VERY DANGEROUS if it's shipped being exposed as pictured...I believe it to be a POSSIBLE SHOCK HAZARD for those not experienced!

08-31-2003 10:25:54

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) ctorkildson
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Actually, the power supply has a metal screw-down cover but it is an open frame supply. The Mini-ITX guys take power supplies out of their cases all the time to jam them into odd containers. I haven't had any problems in any event.
08-31-2003 15:05:53

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Tom61
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Tempting, very tempting. If I had a Socket 370 chip laying around, I'd pick it up for sure. Less than $25 including shipping isn't too bad (it looks like the previous auctions didn't go higher than the start price).

So the only thing proprietary is the form factor and few other gizmos added? Do you know if this will except a C3 processor?

08-31-2003 19:12:12

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) ctorkildson
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I've stuck in a Pentium III 850, a Celeron 533 and a Cyrix 600 and all of them worked great. I have a 1Ghz Celeron I've been meaning to try. Looking in my CPU box I see a bunch of Slot 1's, 4 300Mhz, 3 366Mhz (the overclocking darling for a while, put them into the first dual proc BP6), and 4 466Mhz. I'd be happy to share
09-01-2003 04:55:23

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) zonyl
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It seems to actually cost $8.00 minumum bid, $16 ship, $9 extra fee? = $33/unit and wont combine shipping on multiple items. Lots of subtle/ extravagant fees involved. Still looks like a good deal, however, I am always put off by nickle-and-dime sellers.

It doesnt mention USB in the ebay info.

09-01-2003 09:35:20

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) ctorkildson
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Hmmm, I didn't have all those extra charges when I bought mine. The seller seemed very straight-forward when I emailed him questions. YMMV.

It's got 2 USB ports in the form of an 8 pin header with the four pins on each side being one port. You'll need an adapter to bring them out to real USB connectors. FWIW there's also full audio, but I haven't tried it yet.

I've got them running RedHat 7.3, WinXP, and Win98SE.

09-01-2003 09:59:44

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 1 times) Tom61
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"$9 extra fee?"
You mean "Additional Cost Per Item: US $8.95"?

That is for combining shipping.
Buy 1 shipping = $15
Buy 2 shipping = $24
Buy 3 shipping = $33
etc.

09-01-2003 14:09:30

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) VivianC
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Looks neat. I might have to try to grab one. After you add the memory and CPU, can you squeeze a hard drive inside or does it need to be external?
09-01-2003 20:19:39

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) ctorkildson
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There is room for a drive. I took out the PCI IDE card (not needed since there is an IDE connector on the board) and the specialty disk test board that's screwed to the side of the case. That made more room but it wasn't necessary. I velcroed the hard drive to the bottom of the top of the case and then buttoned it up. Airflow from the power supply fan brings air across the drive. If you want to use both PCI slots you might have some trouble getting a 3 1/2" drive wedged in and you might have to use a notebook drive.
09-02-2003 04:48:52

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) inx3us
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GRRRRR.... Just lost the auction for one of these things on Ebay. I still have one of those Evergreen 600MHz cpu's from a while back I was hoping to stick in one of these. If ne1 (smokeliberator) got more than one of these and would like to part with one or maybe needs a cpu...
09-03-2003 19:39:34

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Glitch
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inx3us: I missed the first auction for these due to a trip to the ER. I was really bummed when I saw this thread start. I was hoping to "steal" 4 or 5 of these at the opening bid. I still think it is a "steal" at $23 (but not quite as bad).

I think that the first auction was for 10 of the machines. Not all of them were bid on. There were 10 in this auction. Based on this pattern I wouldn't be too surprised if there were at least one more auction (probably more).

ctorkildson: Congrats on your acquisition. Thanks for sharing the info with everyone ( even though it probably cost me ).


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09-03-2003 20:07:40

New MessageAnybody got docs on board? (modified 0 times) TivoTechie
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I picked up three if these, I'm curious if anybody has documentation on the headers on the board, or a manual for the actual motherboard?

I'm also very interested in how to control the Quantum TDE-021 Voltage Margin Board, as I do a fair amount of work with disk analysis, it would be nice to be able to use this module and the external IDE interface to swap drives in an out of a live system... any help people could provide would be great.

-TT

09-15-2003 16:59:50

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) spong
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I snagged two for $1.25ea.

>I've stuck in a Pentium III 850, a Celeron 533 and a Cyrix 600 and all of them worked great. I have a 1Ghz Celeron >I've been meaning to try. Looking in my CPU box I see a bunch of Slot 1's, 4 300Mhz, 3 366Mhz (the overclocking >darling for a while, put them into the first dual proc BP6), and 4 466Mhz. I'd be happy to share

I've got a Tualatin Celeron(appropriately hacked), but it doesn't seem to be working. Soooo, I wouldn't mind trying something else in it.

09-15-2003 17:20:59

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) TivoTechie
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I just tried a celeron 466 & a P3/850/100FSB ... in 2 different boards, I can't get either of them to post in either board... am I blind, are there jumpers I need to deal with?
09-15-2003 18:34:37

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Glitch
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TivoTechie: Try cycling the power several times. Both of mine did not power-up on the first try (Celeron 500). I believe this has something to do with the CMOS settings being lost. HTH.
Glitch
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09-15-2003 20:00:14

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) ctorkildson
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I had the same problem with 2 of mine. I replaced the 2032 battery with a new one. That caused one to start working immediately, so you might want to check that. The other one just started working after about 20 (very frustrated) power cycles, as Glitch mentioned.

I have the documentation in a Word file if anyone is interested.

Chris

09-16-2003 04:53:06

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) spong
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I'd like the documentation.

I've tried a new battery(well, a different one from the box o' crap) and power cycling, and still no go with my tualatin. Guess it's time to actually check the batteries

09-16-2003 14:11:18

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) TivoTechie
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I'd definetly like the documentation also...

I'll be trying the new battery approach when I get home in a few hours, as well as the lots-o-power-cycles approach if need be.

-TT

09-16-2003 14:56:59

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers success (modified 0 times) TivoTechie
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excelent, I've got 3 working boards now, looks like all you really need to do is yank the battery and power cycle once or twice, I had one that was a little stuborn, so I actually popped a battery in it, but for the other two, all I needed to do was remove the bad battery.

Now the big question is, will a PC104 daughter board fit but still allow access to the PCI slot?

And does anybody know somewhere to get a PC104 PCCARD/PCMCIA adapter?

-TT

09-16-2003 16:52:46

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Glitch
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TivoTechie: It would be a good idea to replace the batteries with new ones as opposed to leaving them out. This will allow you to keep the BIOS settings in the event of a power cycle (sorry if you already knew this). Surplus places like All Electronics are usually good for cheap batteries. I usually buy a handful since replacing the battery is a common "repair" when playing with vintage machines.

Search eBay for PC/104 PCMCIA Boards


Glitch
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09-16-2003 18:44:16

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) TivoTechie
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Glitch:

Already put in new batteries :)

I was stating for anybody who is lazy, that a quick fix to make sure the board POSTs was just pulling the current battery :)

Thanks for the link to a battery source, ... nice and cheap compared to Radio Shack :)

Ok, I'm off to learn more about PC/104 and explore PCMCIA/PCCARD interfaces

-TT

09-16-2003 20:35:45

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) oldman
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TivoTechie:

check http://www.hardwarebook.net for pinouts of pc/104, eisa and pcmcia.

pc/104 is basically a eisa slot with the upper eight bits (the e (enhanced or expanded) part if eisa) beside the standard isa port in female dual-in-line sockets. it is not difficult to use double sided pin strips, some ribbon cable and a eisa slot socket from radio shack to solder up a real eisa slot.

have fun,


oldman
09-16-2003 22:14:01

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Glitch
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For more PC/104 info...

http://www.pc104.org/
http://www.controlled.com/pc104faq/

09-17-2003 05:45:22

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Glitch
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BTW, what the PC/104 FAQs usually forget to mention is that PC/104(PC/104+) boards are hard to find, limited in scope and cost two to three times more than their ISA(PCI) equivalents.

They are great if you need a very compact, vibration resistant and robust form factor (like in a car or boat). It is usually more cost effective to go to a half-sized single board computer with a passive backplane and ISA cards. Than again, PC/104 definitely has a coolness factor because it is rarely seen outside of the embedded community.


Glitch
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09-17-2003 06:02:24

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Tom61
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If someone could send me the documentation, I'd be willing to put it up on a website for download.
09-19-2003 14:22:54

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) ctorkildson
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Your mailbox is full. It's a 4MB Word doc that doesn't compress.

Chris

09-20-2003 04:54:32

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Tom61
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Could you send it to tom61 () arcadecontrols.com then? Thanks, that account has no limit.

I got in with auction that ended yesterday for these ($21.01). If you're looking for processor for these, an Ebay seller has new retail 800MHz VIA C3s for $26.50 Buy It Now under the Cyrix processor category.

09-21-2003 11:22:54

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) mmcbaf
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I got one of these on his first auction. He has several hundred but is not willing to give any break on shipping. I am also interested in getting the documentation. Please email it to me at mmcbaf(at)mfire.com.
Thanks,
mmcbaf
09-21-2003 21:12:30

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) TivoTechie
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does anybody have a source for AC'97 breakouts with a header compatible with this board?

nice cheap sources for breakouts for the other connectors on board (USB, Serial, Paralell, etc) would be usefull too.

09-22-2003 06:24:03

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Tom61
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manual download here:
http://tom61.arcadecontrols.com/download/PEGASUS_HARDWARE_MANUAL_1_2.doc

Anybody know how to control the GPIO pins (perferably under Windows)? Also, the manual mentions on the VGA connector pinout that the board can drive LCDs directly, but the connector is separate. Where is this other connector, and has anyone used an LCD with this board?

09-22-2003 16:24:18

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) VivianC
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I won one in the auction last week and just got it delivered. Time to play!

I also converted the manual to a PDF if anyone wants small size or non-word format. It's at http://www.msmicro.com/docs/

VivC

10-27-2003 22:12:29

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) mbaha
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have you guys looked at these I was thinking about picking one up but I am sure if it is quite fast enough.

BTW not my auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11891&item=2568324189

he also has them for sale in lots of 10


hack your own you will love it more
10-31-2003 15:40:18

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) TivoTechie
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I still haven't found a good source for AC'97 breakouts...
Does anybody have a source for AC'97 breakouts with a header compatible with this board?

nice cheap sources for breakouts for the other connectors on board (USB, Serial, Paralell, etc) would be usefull too.

-TT

11-03-2003 13:04:44

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Tom61
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I don't think anyone makes AC '97 breakouts for this board, you're probably going to have to make your own. Most DB-15 headers actually have 16 pins going to the connector, and that's what I'll probably use.

Most of the headers besides the AC '97 and front panel connectors are standard. A local computer shop should stock some, and be pretty cheap. Old pre-ATX Pentium systems are usually loaded with them.

Anyone know why the Floppy connector is a much smaller pitch connector than usual, and why it's listed as 'reserved' in the manual?

11-04-2003 18:42:53

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 1 times) gjarboni
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As an FYI, I bought a Tualatin converter from Computergeeks.com (no affiliation): /http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=S370TUA for <$8 and was able to boot a 1.2Ghz Celeron in my box. The maker of the board is Advantech (/http://www.advantech.com) and if you search on their website you can find an older BIOS for the board. Their product name/number is POD-6601.

The only problem I have is that it won't boot an 80GB drive. (the drive boots in other computers). Oh, and the computer won't boot if I have anything in the top PCI slot. Any info on the PCI riser or the included PCI IDE card?

12-28-2003 00:18:02

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) BadFlash
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Anyone have the audio and ethernet drivers for the Pegasus board? These things are kinda neat. I got 6 delivered for $120. This guy must have gotten them for free.
01-27-2004 18:48:15

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) BadFlash
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Got the audio, video, lan, ide drivers. Everything is working in '98 except one "unknown device" I suspect it is one of the timers. I'll post details on the drivers later. Tired now.
01-28-2004 20:49:44

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) mmcbaf
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Badflash,
My "unknown device" in 98 was the onboard game controller.
mmcbaf
01-31-2004 10:39:17

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) BadFlash
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Did you find a driver that worked?

Other drivers I found worked for everything else:
Got to Intel for the IDE and Video for the 810 chipset.
http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/driver.htm
I got the sound & lan driver from mycomp/tmc for the AD188X & Realtek 8139:
http://www.mycomp.com.tw/driver.htm
I used the 2nd sound driver on the list as the one that loaded by running setup come up with problems.

02-01-2004 09:24:38

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) BadFlash
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Thanks for the hint. Sometimes you miss the obvious.
The standard game controller driver available in windows did the trick. All devices working & no conflicts. Just need to wire up the sound out & I'll have some neat systems for under 50 bucks. Got a bunch of celerons for $14 and 64 meg of PC100 for the same. I have lots of left over laptop drives. I plan to use these as industrial PC's. Now if I could just find some docs on this timer they talk about.
02-01-2004 09:46:18

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 2 times) Tom61
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In case anyone is interested I turned mine into a Smoothwall box (pics):
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=fc3cad5f8bc34b7e83cf4f56410537e2&threadid=726282

BadFlash: It's odd that you needed to hunt down drivers, Windows ME (oddly this works pretty good on this system!), Knoppix and Smoothwall all detected and configured everything by themselves. Different revisions of the motherboard maybe?

The guy *still* has more: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=51119&item=2785460193

02-08-2004 18:03:52

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) JhonR
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Has anyone gotten sound working with windows 2000? Knoppix, RH9, win98's been working. I cant seem to get sound working with win2k.

Thanks in advance,

-j

03-13-2004 06:04:29

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) mmcbaf
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Hello,
What specific type of PC100 SDRAM do I need for this motherboard. I have been using a 128MB stick that is only recognized as 64MB. It is a PC100 CL2 non-ecc that I had laying around. I want to put in the 256MB max and with memory prices the way they are I don't want to use trial and error to figure out what is the right type.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
mmcbaf
03-24-2004 20:02:56

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) BadFlash
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I'm using Win98SE not winME and that means you need to hunt down drivers. Got everything working fine. These things are pretty cool. I had no problem with 128M sticks or 64meg sticks. I used on-hand PC133, brand-x no-name memory.
03-27-2004 17:02:43

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) MSpin
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Has anyone figured out how to get the upper PCI slot on the riser to not conflict with onboard devices? I have a QLogic FibreChannel card I'd like to put in there, but it's a bit too long for the lower slot.
05-06-2004 15:20:09

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Zogg
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I bought one of these and have never used it, too many projects. If anyone wants to buy it send me email at galactica44 a t comcast.net

Regards,
Z

05-13-2004 15:47:58

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Tom61
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Anybody figured out the chip density/number of chips it requires for RAM? I, like mmcbaf, have a stick of 128MB RAM that it sees as 64MB. Not fun to run Linux on with only 64MB of RAM (has to swap just to load Mozilla Firefox). Unfortunately, the RAM I have doesn't have any of the relevant information labeled on it, so I can't even add to the 'what not to get' list. :(

Motherboard manual doesn't say what it needs either.

06-07-2004 14:55:38

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) VivianC
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I am using Kingston ValueRam 133/256 and it reads it as 128. I also have a no-name 64 meg that reads as a 32.

VivC

06-07-2004 18:48:26

New Messageany mobile power supply designs out there? (modified 0 times) gadgetjon
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anyone doing a mobile power supply for these? I see maxim and some others have a switching power supply on a chip. I think these computers just need +5v, but at several amps so a simple analog voltage regulator may not be usable. If anyone has plans or sources for inexpensive 12 to 5 volt supply, please share. I found a couple companies that make power supplies for these boards, but their retail price is several times what we paid for the computer.
06-08-2004 08:17:14

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Tom61
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I'm pretty sure that they need both +5V and +12V. If you're looking for cheap and easy to find 12V power supplies, look for mini-ITX ones. They're very small, and despite being ATX they power on instantly (no need to short any pins). Just make an adapter or cut off one of the Molexes for drives to hook up the motherboard. If you're looking for a power supply to run off the mains, look for a micro AT or ATX power supply (though you'll need to rig some sort of switch for the micro ATX).

I wish that manufactures these days labeled their sticks with information like chip density and not just the speed and CL. That would help alot in finding what does and doesn't work with these boards.

06-08-2004 19:25:35

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Tom61
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I think it may need 8-chip memory modules. I took my stick out to gather as much info as I could, it's a dual-sided 16 chip (8 each side) DIMM, since it's a 128MB stick, that works out to 64Mbit chips (Unless I had a math error). Something from this era should have no trouble with 64Mbit memory chips, so that leaves the number of chips.

I would try out this theory, as I have some 8 chip Dimms, but one of the tabs that hold in the Dimm seems to have broken when I removed it. :( I may have to transfer the stuff from my current one to another that I've gotten.

06-09-2004 18:56:59

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) VivianC
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My Kingston Value RAM DIMMs are only 8 chip, onsided sticks and they still read at half capacity.

VivC

06-09-2004 20:06:34

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Tom61
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I think density may be the problem with the ValueRAM. 256MB in 8 chips would mean that it was using 256Mbit chips, higher density than a board of that era could address. Last time I tried one of those in mine it saw half and snow crashed!

Anyone know how to set how much RAM the onboard video uses, or does it have it's own set of memory? I can only find the AGP appeture size in the BIOS.

06-11-2004 14:00:35

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Tom61
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Found out the answer to my question about video RAM: http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-009473.htm

Which explains why Windows ME and Linux report different amounts of RAM. (ME gets 10MB, but XFree86 requests 16MB)

It occured to me that the board doesn't have a memory controller other thant the i810, so it's compatability *should* be the same as the base chipset. However I can't deduce the info from what I've found: http://support.intel.com/design/chipsets/810/

06-14-2004 18:37:24

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Tom61
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Addmendum:

"100 MHz SDRAM interface supporting 64 MB/256 MB/512 MB with 16Mb/64Mb/128Mb
SDRAM technology" is what's listed in the design sheet. I can't find where it lists the amount per slot (or how many slots total). http://support.intel.com/design/chipsets/designex/290657.htm?iid=ipp_810chpst+info_dg_810&

512M in 128Mb chips would mean 32 chips, not gonna find that in one Dimm. If the number of max. supported slots were known, we could divide 32 by the number of slots to find the max. chips per Dimm. (assuming 4 doesn't work, as that comes out to 8.5). Please check my math.

06-14-2004 18:50:47

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) mmcbaf
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Tom61,

Did you ever find a way to control/monitor the GPIO pins under Windows. The chip used is the Winbond W83627F on my mainboard. The LCD and game port are not brought out to any connectors. The pinout for the chip is available in pdf format at http://www.winbond.com so you could create an interface daughterboard for LCD connection. But I have not been able to locate any Windows drivers for this super I/O chip.

mmcbaf

06-18-2004 11:14:09

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Tom61
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I haven't found anything, other than that this chip is a very common chip used for temp. and fan speed monitoring on motherboards. Did you find any non-Windows drivers or this?
06-18-2004 16:24:19

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) Tom61
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I managed to get the Dimm slot back in order and tryed a 64MB 8 chip PC100 8x64 Dimm module, it managed to see all of it. I'll see if I can find a 128MB stick of x64(forgot what this number means) around They seem to be fairly common on Ebay right now, and going fairly cheap, if one of you wants to take a stab in the dark. 256MB x64 modules on Ebay are more expensive than 128MB.
06-23-2004 20:24:30

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) bentbike1
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re power supplies while doing some searhig for mini atx mbo i found that there is a circit board which plugs into the mbo and provides power externaly also ;there are memory adaptors that mount in the mbo memory slot then the stick is mountted at 90 or 25 degress
08-01-2004 18:26:36

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) miked
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I am going to be buying the parts to make a real AC'97 breakout header. I have been wanting a reason to buy a pin crimper and this seams good. If there is an interest, I will pickup some extra parts and make a few extras. I plan on putting RCA connectors on mine. Depending on costs, I may just get the parts to make the breakout with wires hanging off, so you can connect your own stuff onto it.
08-23-2004 18:43:24

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) SlashG4
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Bought three of these. This is what I've learned so far:
There is a seller on eBay offering Lin-Lin brand name Tualatin adapters for socket 370 mainboards for about $10 after shipping. Using one of these, I have gotten a 1.4GHz Celeron Tualatin to run at the 103MHz bus setting in the BIOS, but anything higher will not POST. If you buy one of these, change the jumpers to match the "figure 2(Intel mainboard, celeron III)" setting and it should work flawlessly(except that the BIOS shows incorrect CPU speed, but WCPUID shows it correctly). Makes for a very cheap but adequate UT2004 server box.

These are also excellent for routers. I have one with a 800MHz Celeron running Freesco Linux as a file server, router, and print server on a 256MB CompactFlash card plugged into an IDE adapter.

As far as RAM, it seems to take anything low density(128Mbit or less) just fine, but it does not accept 256Mbit devices. 16x128Mbit for 256MByte stick works great.

If you buy one of these, before you even bother putting a processor in it, replace the CMOS battery. The manual says the battery is good for 10,000 hours max. with the system turned off.

The manufacturer offers zero support on these things. No drivers, no BIOS updates, nothing.

The Zalman CNPS3100-Plus fanless heatsink(or any copper Zalman sink), once trimmed down, works awesome for these boxes since the processor is in the direct airflow path.

Has anyone found floppy connectors with the proper pitch for this connector?
What about the second PCI slot?
Voltage margin module?

08-24-2004 03:25:39

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) bzo0
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are there any more of these? What do I search for on ebay to look?
08-24-2004 13:09:09

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) jsmmd
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http://search.ebay.com/PC104_W0QQsokeywordredirectZ1QQfromZR8
08-24-2004 13:49:29

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) bzo0
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yeah, I've done searches on various forms of pc104, industrial, etc. but couldn't find this particular one. Can someone give me some more specific info such as the seller's username? Thanks.
08-24-2004 15:20:23

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) miked
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Dug this up by searching through my PayPal records.

username: soniccomp
email: soniccomp@onemain.com
address: microsonic computer,ins , 14530 camden ave, san jose, CA 95124

Hasn't sold much recently:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=soniccomp

08-24-2004 19:29:24

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) SlashG4
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Try e-mailing the seller. The three I bought were for an auction of 10 and there were no other bidders, so he has at least 7 more.
08-24-2004 22:41:07

New MessageRE:PC104 Computers (modified 0 times) bzo0
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thanks a lot guys!
08-25-2004 12:01:36

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