I-Appliance BBS
The Official Source for Internet Appliance Upgrades and Mods

Click Here!
BBS Main List | Sign In | Sign Up | Search | Help | Linux-Hacker.netReply to Thread | Printer |

Home / I-Appliance BBS General / NEWS, Breaking NEWS
OEM NMEA GPS Receiver $19.99

New MessageOEM NMEA GPS Receiver $19.99 (modified 0 times) eBoyDog
Profile | Email
Found this on eBay, the guy is seeling them for $19.99 +shipping

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4668&item=5766715591

Got one, wireed it up and it works great, while it was a complete interface; the basic function require 2 RS232 line (RX & TX) +5 volt power (pulled it off USB interface) and I am about to do some war driving with NetStumbler! Does not inlcude antenna (SMA connecter - Active antenna) but found that too on eBay for about 10 bucks.

These would work good, while I haven't looked at mine too close, I believe it might be possible to pull off the TTL serial and go directly into a i-opener or GCT serial port since the seller desribed that the RS232 shifter "is installed" which I presume means something like the Maxim 235 chip.

04-11-2005 11:33:15

New MessageRE:OEM NMEA GPS Receiver $19.99 (modified 0 times) Tom61
Profile | Email
Sounds good to me! Might integrate this in a handheld computer I'm building.

He has two more listed right now:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4661&item=7506901373&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4673&item=5766611789&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

04-11-2005 16:37:21

New MessageRE:OEM NMEA GPS Receiver $19.99 (modified 0 times) Wild_Pencil
Profile | Email
Enlighten me, I've never done the GPS/Wardriving thing..

For the wardriving project... are you just manually recording GPS coordinates as Netstumbler comes across new nodes, or is this somehow integrated with GPS Navigation and Mapping software?

04-13-2005 11:12:10

New MessageRE:OEM NMEA GPS Receiver $19.99 (modified 0 times) PeteC
Profile
I actually have "played" over the years with various GPS modules. Its a great deal. Another suggested use if interested is for time sync of your home network. I currently use a free public domain application to grab the time from the GPS module and antenna and sync all of my PCs to this NTP server.
04-13-2005 22:16:28

New MessageRE:OEM NMEA GPS Receiver $19.99 (modified 0 times) eBoyDog
Profile | Email
With wardriving and Netstumbler, if you use a GPS it logs the GPS coordinates to log and you can either use the eported logs to import the data into a mapping program. I am using Microsoft Map Point 2004 to actually draw the maps and display in realtime the routes taken and AP's found, check out the forums at http://www.netstumbler.com and you can find just about everything you need to know.

I am just using the built in wireless card in my notebook with no external wireless antenna, as money and time permits, I hope to setup and external antenna to be able to detect yet more. I found in one residental area, and entire street about a mile long was an entire mesh of wireless access point, home broadband networking is becoming so comman now with the cheap cost of AP's

Also should note that I disable the MS networking and zero effortless network function in WinXP on my notebook to prevent unententional access to others networks; from just what I have seen so far in my area, 80% of home networks are wide open and from my perspective, there is no way I would want to get a virus from just driving by a open network which is very possible. It's mind boggling how many home networks are wide open!! Also there are some legal issues involving the fact that even if someone leaves their network open and you access it, you can be found guilty of tresspassing even if it was accidental; kinda like hacking TV satelite signals, just becasue they are in your backyard doesn't mean you can receive them if you know how.

One strange thing which I going to check out is that when this GPS receiver is powered up, my Win XP mistakes it as some sort of Microsoft serial mouse and from time to time causes my mouse to freak out, I goingto research that problem today

04-14-2005 06:07:18

New MessageRE:OEM NMEA GPS Receiver $19.99 (modified 0 times) m_bed
Profile
When I googled up the specs on this puppy, it looked like it doesn't include the "differential GPS" hardware needed for high accuracy, and is limited to about a 25m CEP.

Is that true? Or is it DGPS that was obsoleted when the military turned off the "intentional errors" that were introduced to keep Commie spies from using our own satellites to get precise targeting info for destroying our missile silos and/or precious bodily fluids?

Ran

04-14-2005 11:12:52

New MessageRE:OEM NMEA GPS Receiver $19.99 (modified 0 times) whatever
Profile
>>Or is it DGPS that was obsoleted when the military turned off the "intentional errors" that were introduced to...

Actaully the military's "intentional errors" were obsoleted by DGPS.

04-14-2005 12:41:16

New MessageRE:OEM NMEA GPS Receiver $19.99 (modified 0 times) eBoyDog
Profile | Email
I can't account for DGPS but I can state from what I have seen, this receiver is rather accurate; of all the AP's that I have discovered, I can just look out the window and guess rather good were the AP is. Based on my own AP, it found it right were it was and at a friends house I pulled into his driveway and picked up his including the mapping program noted that it was somewhat offset compared to the rest on that particular street which denoted that I had pulled off the street.

Thinking back, I'm not sure when intentional errors were stopped (sometime in Clinten era) but I do recall back in 2000, I hooked up a GPS receiver to a Virgin Webplayer and was dismayed how off my mapping postion was compared to the particular street map indicated so that may have been when the intentional error mode was on.

I am very pleased with mine, it's shows every movement with very good indication; kinda scary since my wife and I are seperated, I hope I don't screw up and she get's hold of a map I have done and wants to know why I was were I was!! :) I am working on a website which shows the AP's, the biggest problem is to try to throw in some error so that hackers with bad intendtion can use it, my best idea is to just not map the streets on it and just use a topo map instead.

Found the answer to the serial mouse problem, it's a very comman issue when useing a USB to serial adapter as the USB gets special plug and play so one must edit the registery to disable the serial mouse autodetection. Apparently when WinXP and 2000 see data streaming from a com port in the manner a GPS receiver sends, the oS breaks a couple plug and play rules and just assumes it's serial mouse and the result the OS loads the mouse driver and the mouse will jump all over the screen with no ryme or reason.

04-14-2005 21:04:08

New MessageRE:OEM NMEA GPS Receiver $19.99 (modified 0 times) eBoyDog
Profile | Email
According to the data sheet included with the receiver on CD, the receiver is accurate within 20 meters.
04-15-2005 09:36:30

New MessageRE:OEM NMEA GPS Receiver $19.99 (modified 0 times) m_bed
Profile

Thinking back, I'm not sure when intentional errors were stopped

I looked this up, and it turns out to be 5 years ago today (1-May-2000).

I also re-learned that the "missing" error-correction system I was thinking of is WAAS, not DGPS. I was suprised to find out how cheap the "mouse-type" receivers have gotten in the last year or so: the Holux unit (which includes WAAS) is selling on ebay for only about $10-15 more than the best deal I could find on buying both one of the OEM modules and an active antenna (about $40-45, with shipping).

The Holux units are being advertised as "USB", but it turns out that the basic unit is serial, and the ones being sold come with a USB-serial cable that you can replace with one that suits your system.

With the higher accuracy and lower effort, I think a lot of folks would be happier going with the ready-made solution.

Ran

05-01-2005 17:02:09

Reply to Thread | Printer |
All times are PSTPowered by UltraBoard v1.62



Copyright © 2000, Netmake Inc. All Rights Reserved.
See Terms and Conditions for more information.




i-opener opener laptop notebook computer help drivers dll free windows dos repair fix linux mac macintosh 2000 95 98 nt pc configure hardware software sound video netscape explorer network networking lan wan software cmos fat bios printer card mouse modem ide scsi cd rom controllers scanner tape hard drive cgi scripts source code mp3