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Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) greghol Profile There are a bunch of ADS StrongARM SA-1110 embedded board up at eBay for $34 each! They run Linux and Win CE. I picked one up myself. Specs: StrongARM SA-1110 32-bit 206Mhz 32MB Intel Flash 32MB Dram memory Ethernet PCMCIA (Type II) IrDA Serial Ports, Smart IO PS/2 Keyboard Port Low Power Mode Backlight Control (PWM Brightness Control) Touch Panel Interface LCD Interface (Effortlessly supports Active TFT, Passive, Color / Mono, DMTN) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8704081975 Greg 10-09-2005 15:08:51

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) Ydef Profile Wow! Fantastic Find! Thanks for the post! 10-09-2005 17:10:44

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) bilaw Profile Has anybody received one of these. I ordered one on the 'buy it now' option, paid immediately with paypal. No product received, no response from email to the seller. Bill 10-24-2005 13:20:53

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) greghol Profile I was wondering if anyone else got one too. I just shot off a message last night addressing the no show of the board. No reponse yet. The eBay record looks clean from their feedback and some people have got them from earlier auctions. Ill give it another week (or 1 month from purchase date) before persuing action via eBay. Greg 10-24-2005 14:51:22

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) jpe_dty Profile I have not received mine either, did immediate paypal, etc, on 10/10. 10-24-2005 19:18:42

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) newell Profile Just received notice that my board has been shipped. I think the timeline went: paypal sent on the 10th paypal cleared on the 14th parcel shipping "Canada Post Expedited Parcel" on the 17th You'd think that after a week that the Canada Post tracking page would have some detail info, but it doesn't. 10-25-2005 16:56:20

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) greghol Profile I finally got my board today in the mail. I paid on the 8th with paypal, the box is postmarked on the 17th and it arrived on the 25th. Nice and slow all around. A nice 5 WORK day delay in getting it out, says within 3 days on the auction, and 8 days to get to me. I get items faster from China and Australia when I order it than from Canada. Its getting to the point where I dont want to do business with Canada at all. I already dont sell to Canada via eBay and now I guess Ill wont buy from Canada. Well.... Unless a nice deal comes up like this. :) Greg 10-25-2005 18:46:14

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) bilaw Profile Mine arrived today also. All is ok, just very slow. Seller finally responded to the 3rd email after a week. 10-25-2005 22:50:22

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) radarman Profile Paypal has a new restriction on "e-checks", which amount to a waiting period to make sure your check doesn't bounce. I have had people complain to me because I waited a week or more to ship their stuff. PayPal claims it is designed to prevent fraud, and they are probably right, but this new policy eliminates the whole advantage of PayPal - instant gratification. So, I now offer people the option of mailing me a money order or using PayPal. In many cases, the MO will arrive sooner than PayPal clears, and I waive (obviously) charging extra to cover the fees for MO's, since MO's already typically cost between $0.90 and $1.20. (In case you were wondering, most sellers on eBay charge extra for shipping to cover transaction costs) Just keep that in mind - the seller may not be slow, or ripping you off. It could be that PayPal is at fault. 10-28-2005 10:15:17

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) newell Profile Just keep that in mind - the seller may not be slow, or ripping you off. It could be that PayPal is at fault. I've also noticed the delay in eChecks recently. In my case, I noted both when the paypal transaction initiated and cleared. The tracking number that I was provided shows that my boards also shipped on the 17th. And that's all it shows. Hopefully they'll arrive today, as I'm feeling just a little tardy knowing that everyone else has had theirs for days now! 10-28-2005 10:22:14

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) newell Profile Finally! Mine isn't fully populated, but I can't tell yet what I'm missing (485, CAN, and Vee, perhaps?). It's coming up as 192.168.69.70. SSH is listening. Haven't got a serial port connected yet. 10-28-2005 20:25:16

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) newell Profile Com port 3 boot output (38400-8N1): Strong ARM ID = 0x6901B116 GC+ Linux Loader Initializing (0x3) ADS GC+ for Linux Boot Rom Ver. 1.73 (Build at 11:04:37,Aug 8 2000) Booting from Flash. Reading Flash Header Size...(0x9e2c4 bytes) Reading Flash ...(from 0x4 to 0x9e2c8) Reading Flash Header Size...(0x229ffc bytes) Reading Flash ...(from 0x100004 to 0x32a000) Jump to 0xC0200000 to boot Uncompressing Linux.............................................done booting the kernel. Linux version 2.4.1-rmk1-np1-ads4-dd1 (ddunlop@cross) (gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #53 Fri Jun 22 06:30:02 MDT 2001 Processor: Intel StrongARM-1110 revision 6 Architecture: ADS GraphicsClient On node 0 totalpages: 4096 zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. On node 1 totalpages: 4096 zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 0 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. Kernel command line: ip=off Console: colour dummy device 80x30 Calibrating delay loop... 194.15 BogoMIPS Memory: 16MB 16MB = 32MB total Memory: 30500KB available (1255K code, 344K data, 76K init) Dentry-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes) Buffer-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 2048 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 Initializing RT netlink socket Watchdog timer enabled: Expiration = 60 sec Starting kswapd v1.8 Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x30 Graphics Client keyboard driver v1.0 pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured smartio driver initialized. version 1.01, date:Dec-01-2000 block: queued sectors max/low 19493kB/6497kB, 64 slots per queue RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 256K size 1024 blocksize loop: loaded (max 8 devices) Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31 ide: Assuming 50MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx smc9194.c:v0.14 12/15/00 by Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu) eth0: SMC91C96(r:9) at 0xf00e0000 IRQ:58 INTF:TP MEM:6144b ADDR: 00:60:0c:00:09:7f loop: loaded (max 8 devices) SA1100 serial driver version 1.3 ttyS0 on SA1100 UART3 (irq 17) ttyS1 on SA1100 UART1 (irq 15) ttyS2 on SA1100 UART2 (irq 16) SA1100 Watchdog Timer: 0.01, timer margin: 60 sec ADS gpio driver initialised PPP generic driver version 2.4.1 Registered PPPoX v0.5 Registered PPPoE v0.6.5 SA1100 flash: probing for 5 partitions (buswidth = 4) SA1100: Found 2 x16 CFI devices at location 0 in 16 bit mode JEDEC ID: 89 18 SA1100 flash access initialized Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.1.22 options: none SA-1100 PCMCIA (CS release 3.1.22) NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 2048 bind 2048) ip_conntrack (256 buckets, 2048 max) ip_tables: (c)2000 Netfilter core team NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.95 (c) 1998-1999 Rebel.com VFS: Mounted root (cramfs filesystem) readonly. Freeing init memory: 76K INIT: version 2.74 booting starting starting setting path sourcing functions mounting proc and devpts about to mount filesystems /dev/ram0 on /var type ramfs (rw) /dev/ram0 on /tmp type ramfs (rw) INIT: Entering runlevel: 3 Starting syslog Starting system logger: syslogdsyslogd: Could not connect to socket /dev/log: Address already in use Starting flash Mounting Flash Filesystem: 512+0 records in 512+0 records out EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended Starting modutils Loading modules: 2.4.0-test11-rmk1-np3/kernel/arch/arm/mach-sa1100/gpio - /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S07modutils: insmod: command not found Starting pcmcia Starting PCMCIA services: cardmgr. cardmgr[92]: starting, version is 3.1.22 cardmgr[92]: watching 1 sockets Starting checkconf SIOCSIFADDR: No such device null: unknown interface: No such device SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device null: unknown interface: No such device Starting sshd: sshd ************ English Keyboard ************ Loading /usr/local/conf/langs/loadkeys.en Using /usr/local/lib/sermouse.o TM: state = 0 TM: terminal id: e9056737910 TM: terminal software release: 1.3.1 TM: terminal host: 192.168.69.70 TM: state = 1 SC: port settings 9600 8-1-0 port com2 TM: sending com.quortech.eterminal.shared.clientmessages.StateTransMsg to http://qtechweb1:8079/eterminal/servlet/QTechRequestManagerServlet HttpSafeMsgHandler - sendMsg() called HttpSafeMsgHandler - addMsgToTxQueue() addMsgToTxQueue() - Element added to '_txMessages' queue HttpTxThread - broken out of wait state.. Signalled successfully. About to remove message from queue TM: state = 6 TM: sending com.quortech.eterminal.shared.clientmessages.StartBrowserMsg to http://qtechweb1:8079/eterminal/servlet/QTechRequestManagerServlet HttpSafeMsgHandler - sendMsg() called HttpSafeMsgHandler - about to do actual transmit connection to http://qtechweb1:8079/eterminal/servlet/QTechRequestManagerServlet open HttpSafeMsgHandler - addMsgToTxQueue() addMsgToTxQueue() - Element added to '_txMessages' queue ADLOOPLISTENER - The terminal manager object in AdLoopMessageListener is a-OK Exception was Throwed Failed to transmit try number 0 HttpSafeMsgHandler - about to do actual transmit connection to http://qtechweb1:8079/eterminal/servlet/QTechRequestManagerServlet open Exception was Throwed Failed to transmit try number 1 HttpSafeMsgHandler - about to do actual transmit connection to http://qtechweb1:8079/eterminal/servlet/QTechRequestManagerServlet open Exception was Throwed Failed to transmit try number 2 Error transmitting message - giving up on this particular message KILLMOZ: Mozilla not Found java.io.IOExceptionHttpTxThread - Tried to transmit message to app server HttpSafeMsgHandler - about to do actual transmit connection to http://qtechweb1:8079/eterminal/servlet/QTechRequestManagerServlet open TM: checking browser... TM: Browser checked OK Exception was Throwed Failed to transmit try number 0 HttpSafeMsgHandler - about to do actual transmit connection to http://qtechweb1:8079/eterminal/servlet/QTechRequestManagerServlet open Exception was Throwed Failed to transmit try number 1 HttpSafeMsgHandler - about to do actual transmit connection to http://qtechweb1:8079/eterminal/servlet/QTechRequestManagerServlet open KeyboardCtl (Dec 5 2001 14:27:07) KC: waiting for message TM: http message received: com.quortech.eterminal.shared.keyboardctlmessages.KeyboardCtlUrlMsg TM: keyboard control program is available on http://localhost:8084 Exception was Throwed Failed to transmit try number 2 Error transmitting message - giving up on this particular message PortNumber=8085 AdLoopManager terminal id=e9056737910 AdLoopManager url=http://192.168.69.70:8085 AdLoopManager terminal manager url=http://localhost:8081 Browse to page=http://qtechweb1:8079/eterminal/servlet/QTechRequestManagerServlet?TerminalId=e9056737910&TerminalUrl=http://192.168.69.70:8081&ServiceId=1&ServiceState=TopLevel Display browser on=192.168.69.70:0 <?xml version="1.0"?> <class name="com.quortech.eterminal.shared.adloopmessages.AdLoopUrlMsg"> <field name="_senderReturnUrl" type="java.lang.String">http://192.168.69.70:8085</field> </class>TM: http message received: com.quortech.eterminal.shared.adloopmessages.AdLoopUrlMsg TM: ad loop is available on http://192.168.69.70:8085 KILLMOZ: Mozilla not Found java.io.IOExceptionHttpTxThread - Tried to transmit message to app server Qt: Locales not supported on X server eMillennium login: <?xml version="1.0"?> <class name="com.quortech.eterminal.shared.statusbarmessages.StatusBarUrlMsg"> <field name="_senderReturnUrl" type="java.lang.String">http://localhost:8083</field> TM: http message received: com.quortech.eterminal.shared.statusbarmessages.StatusBarUrlMsg TM: status bar is available on http://localhost:8083 TM: requesting firmware time sync TM: sending telephony message TimeSyncRequestTelephonyMessage TM: checking browser... TM: Browser checked OK TM: checking browser... making JNI call Browser function is called MOZUP: Mozilla not Found isBrowserRunning() - Script ran successfully but there is an error returned The status is 256 native interface returns 1 TM: Browser checked OK TM: Method notifyBrowserDown is called KILLMOZ: Mozilla not Found TM: sending com.quortech.eterminal.shared.clientmessages.StartBrowserMsg to http://qtechweb1:8079/eterminal/servlet/QTechRequestManagerServlet HttpSafeMsgHandler - sendMsg() called HttpSafeMsgHandler - addMsgToTxQueue() addMsgToTxQueue() - Element added to '_txMessages' queue HttpTxThread - broken out of wait state.. Signalled successfully. About to remove message from queue HttpSafeMsgHandler - about to do actual transmit connection to http://qtechweb1:8079/eterminal/servlet/QTechRequestManagerServlet open Exception was Throwed Failed to transmit try number 0 HttpSafeMsgHandler - about to do actual transmit connection to http://qtechweb1:8079/eterminal/servlet/QTechRequestManagerServlet open Exception was Throwed Failed to transmit try number 1 HttpSafeMsgHandler - about to do actual transmit connection to http://qtechweb1:8079/eterminal/servlet/QTechRequestManagerServlet open Exception was Throwed Failed to transmit try number 2 Error transmitting message - giving up on this particular message KILLMOZ: Mozilla not Found java.io.IOExceptionHttpTxThread - Tried to transmit message to app server TM: checking browser... TM: Browser checked OK TM: checking browser... TM: Browser checked OK TM: process monitor: error reading /var/run/dhcpd.pid TM: sending com.quortech.eterminal.shared.clientmessages.AdLoopPingMsg to http://192.168.69.70:8085 HttpSafeMsgHandler - sendMsg() called HttpSafeMsgHandler - addMsgToTxQueue() addMsgTWarning! Expect armageddon in 60 seconds oTxQueue() - Element added to '_txMessages' queue 10-28-2005 20:48:28

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) jpe_dty Profile Received mine this week - does anyone know of a place where you can obtain a df9 cable to attach the lcd to the board - for a reasonable price? Digikey has them, but they cost more than the board does. 10-29-2005 08:46:00

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) newell Profile Here's a link to the bootloader docs: http://www.applieddata.net/developers/linux/files/boot/bootrom.pdf I tried to backup the existing onboard flash partitions (with the existing web payphone app), but I screwed up the dip switch settings and ended up writing a new kernel and ramdisk. I was interested in the existing stuff. Oh well. The bootloader is very limited--from what I can tell, the only option is to copy from PCMCIA to onboard flash. No apparent option to TFTP boot. I've been using a PCMCIA to smartmedia adapter, a smartmedia to xD adapter, and an xD card (Juicebox tools!) to get the files across. Seems to be working fine. A CF/PCMCIA adapter might be a more logical and inexpensive choice. Serial console is on J10, the shrouded 2x5 header. RS-232 levels, so it's an easy interface to a PC. Prebuilt kernel and ramdisk files available at: http://www.applieddata.net/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=663 You may have to do a painless registration to gain access to these parts of the ADS forum. Looks like they've got the vast majority of their forum closed to non-customers, so even peer-to-peer assistance may be tricky to come by. I tried every number on the board as the dev system 'Access Code' during the forum registration process, but none were valid. 10-29-2005 12:25:46

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) jpe_dty Profile What is the pinout for com3? I have tried all the combinations I can think of, and the best I seem to get is a loopback of some kind (it sends back whatever I type.) I never see any boot messages. Thanks 10-29-2005 14:27:50

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) jpe_dty Profile disregard my last post - I finally figured out the pinout... 10-29-2005 14:59:11

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) newell Profile disregard my last post - I finally figured out the pinout... I found it tough to ID pin 1 on some of the connectors...had to look for the square pad on the solder side. User's guide is at: http://www.applieddata.net/pdf/gcplus_Manual.pdf 10-29-2005 15:05:07

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) coredog64 Profile Did you have to do anything other than apply 5V to pins 1&2 of J5? I set JP6 to use internal 3.3V and applied 5V but I don't get anything on serial. Fairly certain on serial 3 pinout as I have a ready made IDC to serial adapter from some old computer -- it's keyed just like the socket and the pin 1 red strip corresponds with pin 1 on the header. 10-30-2005 13:15:13

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) newell Profile Did you have to do anything other than apply 5V to pins 1&2 of J5? I set JP6 to use internal 3.3V and applied 5V but I don't get anything on serial. Mine came set to generate internal 3.3V, so I went with +5V on J5 pin 1, ground on J5 pin 2. That was enough to get blinky lights. Fairly certain on serial 3 pinout as I have a ready made IDC to serial adapter from some old computer -- it's keyed just like the socket and the pin 1 red strip corresponds with pin 1 on the header. Hey, I didn't think of that. I've probably got one of those cables around here too. I went with J10 pin 5 (serial out) and J10 pin 9 (ground). J10 pin 3 is the serial input. That works for me at least. 10-30-2005 17:03:40

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) newell Profile Fairly certain on serial 3 pinout as I have a ready made IDC to serial adapter from some old computer -- it's keyed just like the socket and the pin 1 red strip corresponds with pin 1 on the header. Found mine--works. Don't forget the null modem. 10-30-2005 17:27:50

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) coredog64 Profile Speaking of blinky lights, does anything light up when the board boots (like one of those 3 LEDs)? I'm thinking my problem might be power -- the wall wart only creates 500 mA and I'm wasting quite a bit of power in my generic 7805 circuit. 10-30-2005 17:35:31

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) newell Profile Speaking of blinky lights, does anything light up when the board boots (like one of those 3 LEDs)? I'm thinking my problem might be power -- the wall wart only creates 500 mA and I'm wasting quite a bit of power in my generic 7805 circuit. Yep, blinky lights at boot. I measured 409mA max, 300mA mean from boot to login prompt (no ethernet, no PCMCIA, no LCD, just serial output). Try adding a nice big 'lytic cap on your 5V rail and monitor the voltage...if it dips too far, the board will hand in a undervoltage reset loop. 10-30-2005 18:55:31

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) jpe_dty Profile &*^*&^@#$ I got mine to boot, watched the boot messages, created a CF with a new kernel, started booting that, and then DEAD. After testing, I determined my supposed 2A power supply failed by going unregulated and putting 22V on the 5V rail. I ordered another one... 10-31-2005 08:16:41

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) coredog64 Profile &*^*&^@#$ I got mine to boot, watched the boot messages, created a CF with a new kernel, started booting that, and then DEAD. After testing, I determined my supposed 2A power supply failed by going unregulated and putting 22V on the 5V rail. When it's dead do you still get 1V on pin 5? What is everyone using as a power supply? 11-01-2005 09:19:49

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) newell Profile What is everyone using as a power supply? A dirt simple DIY linear with a '317 regulator. 11-01-2005 10:31:24

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) jpe_dty Profile > When it's dead do you still get 1V on pin 5? Actually, it is only partially dead - parts of the board dependent on 5v are dead. With a good power supply it comes up in an infinite reboot loop. The lights light up, then the amber one goes off, and then the reboot message just repeats endlessly (obviously the processor, at least part of the eprom, the max serial level converters, and possibly the ram still work. I suspect the flash is dead.) 11-01-2005 20:46:00

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) jpe_dty Profile Before I reflash my new (working) board, I thought I would take a pic of what the installed software comes up as: http://jpedty.net/adsscr.jpg 11-12-2005 16:26:00

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) NYGFL Profile anyone consider using this for a NAS device? 11-16-2005 01:58:35

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) jpe_dty Profile I found the kernels provided on ADS's site don't work properly with their provided Debian distributions when used with a GCPlus. I have not yet managed to get one to boot the full, CF microdrive based version, however, I managed to get one kernel to work with the jffs2 dist: http://www.jpedty.net/dl/gcplus/ 11-19-2005 14:05:21

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) jpe_dty Profile I did some more work on my board, and placed the results in: http://www.jpedty.net/dl/gcplus I got the ADS demo jffs flash distribution working. The version in the above directory has ttySA0 configured for a serial mouse, so if you want to use it without an LCD you will need to modify inittab first. It has X11, an xterm, a minimal brower, and a few other things. I also tried getting the ADS developent distribution working, however I did not get it to work with anything nontrivial. Also, I was unable to get Wi-Fi working - it appears to try to load modules for which there does not appear to be sources - if anyone manages this please let me know. 11-26-2005 12:43:43

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) Ultanium Profile I was hoping to get a few of these but cannot find the seller, anyone still have his ebay id?? Ult 05-12-2006 04:13:56

RE:Cheap ADS StrongARM Boards on eBay (modified 0 times) greghol Profile He just had some up. Warning this person is very slow as you can see by the comments here and from person experience. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=162&item=8804477469 Greg 05-13-2006 02:50:19

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