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CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) Nickelci Profile | Email well, ive opened up both camera types from CVS and the pin-out seems to be different (pins 6,8,9,10) doesnt work. but they are both "Pure Digital" Cameras, w/o lcd = model 400, with lcd = model 410. i will post pictures asap of the insides of these 2 cams. for the good news to everyone with a "pure Digital" camera, my brother's girlfriend is a manager @ cvs , and is letting me use the "pure digital" developing computer. i am going to get the pure digital software off that system and post it for you all to figure out how to get the pictures to work and maybe help me with the pinout of my cameras. the OS on the developing station is XP embedded. so it will work with xp pro easily. im off to try and connect my cam to usb again. help would be nice :) -Nick 10-09-2004 11:05:05

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) BigMic Profile I picked up the model with the lcd. Looks okay. Any new developments on these?If the firmware resides in the flash mem would it be possible to re-flash, if and when an alternative firmware becomes available, to allow the pictures to be stored in a non-encrypted format? Does that seem possible. Another thought...the lcd displays only the last picture taken, new firmware might allow a "live-view" lcd function. Hmmm, off to check out the firmware hacks for previous Pure Digital/Dakota cameras....Mic 10-16-2004 18:53:03

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) morcheeba Profile Hey guys -- looks interesting, but there aren't any CVS's out here in the west. I suspect when we figure out the Dakota PV2, the CVS camera will be pretty similar. (that and/or I will have decoded enough of the firmware so that it'll be easier to understand quickly...) 11-22-2004 01:28:02

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) dakotamod Profile Nickelci, So far there have been efforts to avoid any legal problems. I would caution that a final solution could be a huge financial loss for CVS or Pure Digital and posts may be traceable to an originating computer. I have 3 original Blues and just recently (as a solution appeared around the corner) bought a red CVS. There are 6 CVS stores located within 2 miles of where I live, and I am still hoping to purchase several as holiday gifts. I for one do not wish to see these posts disappear based on legal action. 11-22-2004 10:39:32

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) halincandenza Profile It looks like the one-time-use digial cameras sold at Long's Drugs stores are the same models as the ones at CVS; I just picked up one of the non-LCD units and it has a sticker indicating it's the Model 400. 11-22-2004 16:52:56

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) dakotamod Profile Nickelci, In an earlier post by Mike "all usb cables are not equal mine... green to 10 red to 9 black to 8 white to 7 red & black are biggest wires... cable may have been made wrong???" Let us know if this works for you. 11-24-2004 13:13:34

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) mike Profile | Email note................ White to pin 6 not pin 7 [typo] 11-24-2004 14:47:29

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) dakotamod Profile I printed mike's add in main post, took back receipt for a Red that I paid 14.99 (17.99 - 3.00 exracare coupon) and clerk simply clicked on add and gave me $5. A Red for just $10 - how much is the LCD or internal flash worth! Actually I am tending towards Blues for stocking stuffers since LCD resolution does not show enough detail to intelligently delete anything but major framing errors (which I got over after years of switching between 35mm slide and film having slight framing differences). Also being able to directly download, crop, delete and make many other alterations with computer software negates many reasons for a preview. Please be sure to post a CVS success with usb connection here. I wonder how many are selling - hopefully enough so that someone will pull out flash, dump it, analyze using morcheeba's disassembler, figure how to communicate over usb and post method here. 12-04-2004 11:28:01

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) toml Profile I mentioned before that i had a bunch of these cameras, including one that's "ready to recycle." What information would it take to know if they're the same? I have an old USB web cam I could swipe that end of the cable from, and a Palm III w/ a cracked screen that I can take the other end of the cable from (fits like it was meant to.) On top of everything else, I use OS X primarily, but have windows XP (and linux) machines at my disposal. Tell me how to help and I will, even if it means posting a camera to someone who can do something with it (of course I'd prefer to send the "ready to recycle" camera, but I'd probably donate one of the new in box cameras to someone who could help me make the rest of them work for me :) 12-07-2004 23:27:48

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) dakotamod Profile I have a Blue CVS that has been recognized by several drivers (cheez foxz2, ... can't remember others, I think libusb also) after adding a line with 28. If you have reds I think you'll need to add a line for 30. When XP hardware wizard asks specify location pointing to changed inf file (different for each driver). Even though XP recognizes the device no other software - testlibusb-win or usbpoker (all I have tried) can find the device. Perhaps plugging into linux may give you a more direct poking (seems others are doing this somewhere in old threads) ability after adding device to .inf or whatever it is in that world. Please post any initial discoveries on this thread. Use google to find several other SMaL drivers to try. 12-08-2004 00:24:10

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) mike Profile | Email $80 on cvs blue length 80 800 8000 80000 transfers ok 0000] 67 45 23 01 00-------00 0080] 3a 13 whatever .......up to xfer length and ends in good status length 300000 also worked data all looks same........... been using usbpoker and the app that comes from thsycon [usbio] with XP2 both cvs blue and red appear to function same ....on usb suspect same as pv2 ....have played more with the blue [type 28] red type is 27 same as pv2 cvs blue picture appears to start at e0000.... 12-08-2004 19:12:10

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) dakotamod Profile Caution! mike has an older 6430 CVS(correct me if am wrong mike), most everyone else is getting 6510 or 6520 with realm ids. Ritz cameras seem to usually be 6410. I can't get my 6520 CVS blue to work. Please if anyone gets a working CVS newer release to be recognized (appears on open selection) by Drmn4ea's usbpoker post here. If you have a Blue, a 3 finger salute still kind of works - it gives 2 digits at time on tiny lcd. Drmn4ea has indicated he is picking up a CVS red tonight with mikes coupon. I have my fingers crossed he gets a 6520 - that should help those of us who have failed to get these working with his poker. Drmn4ea, please post an early mesage here letting us know your 3 finger salute and initial success or failure - anxiously awaiting. 12-08-2004 22:05:41

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 1 times) bentfork Profile I managed to 'reset' my CVS camera serial number ( sticker says version 410 ). The status screen used to say: FIRMWARE 6510 HARDWARE 06 TYPEID 27 CMP TYPEID 27 ID DA5044320xxxx REALM ID 20 After some playing around ( shorting out a connectors, removing the battery) the ID and REALM ID has changed to: ID LAMSSMAL00000 REALM ID 00 I finally gave up trying to make a simple connector ( plexyglass and solid wire ) and soldered on a USB cable. It turned out to be a lot faster to tack on a few wires than try to get the cable stuck in the right way. I have been playing around with the usppoker v0.3 using the supplied bulkout.bin file I am able to tease out up to 3,100,000 bytes (0x60D42F00) without getting any IO errors. So the maximum that one can read may be different between firmware versions. I tried looking for the thumbnails in the angerRcvd.txt but when I dump 60k starting at the previously suggested offsets ( 0x2000 ) into a older version of tft2tga all I get out is a bunch of colorful static. Using the hex editor 'tiny hexer' file comparison utility I was able to locate a few potential image locations. However I had no luck finding the 009C header that was present in some of the other files. I was supprised of the differences between the dump files after a camera reboot, the images are still present, but some of the other data is changes slightly, while other sections are dramatically different. Unfortunately I havent seen any consistent offsets yet. I took a few pictures of a color table that I projected up on a screen. They didn't look very good on the cameras LCD screen as the flash really is strong, and suprisingly hot. Lots of energy in a small place, I feel sorry for anyone who got zapped by the capacitor behind that. I plan on trying to take some solid color shots later, maybe looking INTO the projector instead of at the screen. I am going to look around for a fast server somewhere to store the dumps. Is there anything that anyone is interested in seeing out of a CVS camera? 12-08-2004 23:53:51

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) mike Profile | Email my Red CVS 6430 now displays LAMSSMAL00000 don't know when this occured have purchased Red CVS 6520 model 410 it responds to DCA - 0027 and appears to work the same....... was able to do $80 with 300000 length and got good completion....... 12-09-2004 19:00:11

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) bentfork Profile A little Sucess with the CVS! I managed to extract some images. There are two images worth mentioning, one a fade from black to white, and One of some Yummi Poutine ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine ) The fade from black to white was taken against a projector screen at a angle, while covering the left side of the flash. The raw files for the black to white image are here and the poutine raw files are here here There are some processed files available on my site here Can anyone figure out why there are the vertical bands on the merged poutine image? Maybe this is the XOR 'encryption' we found earlier? It could be the tools I am using IrfanView anyone have any ideas? 12-09-2004 19:31:03

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) dakotamod Profile My Red CVS is working FIRMWARE 6520 HARDWARE 06 TYPEID 2B7 CMP TYPEID 2B7 ID Dxxxxx REALM ID 20 Someone start making those cables! 12-09-2004 19:37:19

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) dakotamod Profile 2b or not 2b - not 2b7 12-09-2004 19:37:59

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) bentfork Profile I can reliably delete all the images off my CVS 6510 camera. It turnes out that sending the command 0x80 (4c 61 4d 53 1d ba ab 1d 80 00 00 00 80 00 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ) as a bulk out followed by a bulk read causes all previously stored undeletable images to disappear. The last image taken image is still present, even if it was deleted, and can be deleted again by pressing the delete button. I am getting the same data back that mike was getting ( 0x6745 0x2301 0x0000 ... 0x0000). Can someone try this on a non CVS camera does the same thing happen? 12-10-2004 16:47:07

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) dakotamod Profile bentfork, If you do not post this immediately in discoveries I will have too! Eliminate blank lines a keep it short, refer back here for more details. 12-10-2004 16:50:14

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) dakotamod Profile bentfork, please look at my last post in suggestions and try $54! 12-10-2004 16:53:13

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) buster Profile I have a new CVS Red firmware ID 6520. So far I was able to get the new hardware wizard complete with the libusb.inf from windows usbpoker package. I have not been able to get it to report to the list of available bulk devices in the usb poker utility. I have gathered that I need to install an additional driver but so far no sucess with flatfoto or foxz. I don't need a handholder, just a tip. What drivers are people using to open up communication with CVS Red 6520 on windows XP. Also a PID would be helpful. Upon success I would be happy to contribute to a process for dummies thread. I don't mind spending time repeating processes to find better more reliable ways to achieve desired results. 12-27-2004 04:12:10

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) brite_eye Profile buster, Hope you are quick to confirm and post! I just discovered that I do not need Blue FlatFoto drivers! Here is a process that should work - if it does please post your method in dummies: 1. Install both device and filter from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=78138&package_id=79216 2. Add this line to libusb.inf: "CVS Red, Version 02/15/2004, 0.1.8.0"=LIBUSB_COMP_IF, USB\VID_0DCA&PID_0027 3. Install Foxz2 from http://www.che-ez.com/download/index.html 4. Add in smalunhj.inf under SMALUSB.models: %USB\VID_0DCA&PID_0027.DeviceDesc%=SMALUSB.Dev, USB\VID_0DCA&PID_0027 5. Add at end of smalunhj.inf USB\VID_0DCA&PID_0027.DeviceDesc="Red 27 Foxz2" 6. Install Irfan View http://www.tucows.com/preview/194967.html 7. Install ForkBoy's PV2tool from Links - 1 2 many 4 all 8. Plug in camera, control panel, update driver, point to smalunhj.inf then repeat to libusb.inf 9. Be sure to force select, specify location, have disk, browse ... for above driver updates. 10. Unplug, Reboot, replug, verify on libusb driver. 11. run pv2tool, select type (reset or normal), unlock. 12. Update driver to smalunhj.inf following #9 above. 13. run Irfan, select source as Cheez, acquire - and you now have photos! 12-27-2004 04:43:09

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) buster Profile brite_eye and others: I got through most of this smoothly but am still working through snags in the driver switching. Also camera has not yet reported to pv2tool or usbpoker. My usb printer did show up with pid 017. I did get the greenlight to come on and a beep when I switched to foxz driver but still not on list for pv2tool or usbpoker. I had to put in my time working for the man so I will not get to finish working through this till tonight. I will try the process on a virgin computer later. I will also check for typos and formatting errors in the inf files. I have plenty of other ideas but this is looking promising. I am happy to put together the dummies post but will not be able to do so until I get the thing working tonight. It looks promising. Thanks 12-27-2004 12:49:09

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) mike Profile | Email brite_eyes proceedure worked for me one time so far...... I tried just loading libusb drivers...I couldnot get pv2tool to work until I follower up with libusb filter.....apparently this proceedure needs both I have been only using libusb filter before by itself and never achieved a down load this down load was grabbed by photobase....I need to deinst photobase..... Brite_eye....do you select digital camera or WIA digital with ifranview?????? .......also I sometimes require reboot after driver swap....... 12-27-2004 19:38:55

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) brite_eye Profile mike, congratulations!! I selected cheez (top of 3 do not remember others). We all need a good USB driver eliminator - driver uninstall doesn't get rid of them. Yes get rid of photobase and use a non trial package - I think Irfan is free forever. If you selected digital camera you probably got the old blue driver which refuses to go away once installed. The trick seems related to installing both filter and device for older libusb release - the newer release with device only does not work unless you have blue flatfoto driver. If you can get rid of blue flatfoto, the please post your process (I had 3 instances of XP, and am about to get 3 more - with no previously installed USB drivers). Very shortly we should have a continueing stream of successes. Perhaps to avoid clutter these should just be posted as links to new photos in photos thread. I highly suggest everyone download Foxz2 driver from Cheez site - it seems to be all that is necessary once you have both filter and device installed in correct order from sourceforge. 12-27-2004 20:23:25

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) bartoni Profile Where is there a CVS that sells these cameras? Every CVS in MD, Western PA, and OH, I've checked doesn't carry them. TIA. Happy New Hacking Year! 12-28-2004 16:06:10

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) brite_eye Profile There are six CVSs stocked full less than two miles from my original stop sign shot! For a short period you may be able to order one online http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/cvsmain. Ritz and Longs also have "27" cameras. 12-28-2004 16:13:09

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) brite_eye Profile Just realized another number coincidence - my wifes birthday and our anniversary are on 27th or 3^3. With 12/24/2004 and my birthday 04/04/04 the numbers are lined up in my favor. Hoping for lots of Red 27s (even though Vulcan Pinch shows 2B when it is not 2B). 12-28-2004 16:18:55

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) binaryweaver Profile I had the opportunity to try my experiment on a fresh computer running Windows XP Professional (SP1). It's a Dell Latitude Laptop (PIII-1.2 Ghz). I was able to recreate everything and successfully downloaded a new batch of photos to this other computer. This wasn’t the “golden egg” I was hoping for, though. Initially, I was able to load the driver and download all the photos without rebooting or unplugging the camera. It worked great. Then later after rebooting, I found I had to reinstall the same driver to get the camera to communicate again even though the driver said it was still installed. As with most communication to these PV2’s, it seems to be temper mental. Prep: I downloaded the Che-Ez! Foxz2 driver from: http://www.che-ez.com/jp/download/driver/foxz2/Foxz2.zip I downloaded libusb-win32 from http://sourceforge.net/projects/libusb-win32 File name: libusb-win32-filter-bin-0.1.8.0.exe Ran "Setup" file from the Che-ez! Foxz2 package Ran libusb installer and chose default install (all options). The Libusb test program reported the following: DLL Version: 0.1.8.0. Driver version: 0.1.8.0 Downloaded IrfanView from Tucows and installed. Downloaded Forkboy’s PV2Tool.exe from http://forkboy.doesntexist.com Modified the INF file that came packaged with the Che-ez Foxz2 (I will try to explain this in detail later, so for now we will call this DRIVERX.INF) Hooking up the camera: I plugged the camera into the USB port of the laptop (CVS Blue, PID 28). It showed "Found New Hardware - Digital Camera". When the hardware wizard popped up, I chose "Install from a list or specific location (Advanced)". Next, I chose "Search for the best driver in these locations" and UNchecked "Search removable media..." and checked "Include this location in the search". Now click BROWSE and point it in the direction where DRIVERX.INF is located. Hardware installation box pops up saying that this driver has not passed Windows Logo testing. Click "Continue Anyway". It wants to know where libusb0.dll is located. I found mine in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32 After the drivers are loaded (I didn't need to reboot), load Forkboy's PV2Tool.exe and unlock the camera. Load IrfanView, go to FILE and SELECT TWAIN DEVICE. Choose "Che-ez! Foxz 1.603 (32-32)". Next FILE and BATCH SCANNING and download them to the PC. Next I have to analyze exactly what I did to the INF file (DRIVERX.INF) for this to work. I will compare the original Che-Ez Foxz2 INF file to my modified one and post the changes I made to it so others may duplicate it. 12-31-2004 15:38:04

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) glypher Profile brite_eye, binaryweaver, thanks for the breakdown guys, I used a combination of both of your posts and it worked great. for some reason i had to unplug and replug the camera to get the unlock to work (kept saying "failed") I'm using Photoshop and the twain driver to dump the images. after the dump, it resets the camera automatically. 12-31-2004 17:35:44

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) binaryweaver Profile The three-finger-salute on the CVS blue used to give me a sequence of six 8-bit hex numbers when I first purchased it. It would display EA 30 20 51 05 86 Ever since I deleted all of the photos off the camera, a three-finger-salute will yeild these results: _A __ __ A_ __ __ Anyone else notice this? Has anyone deleted the photos off the Reds yet? Does the diagnostic screen change info in any way? 12-31-2004 19:04:35

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) glypher Profile Well, I do the dump in photoshop using the twain driver... once you get everything installed... 1) start up PV2Tool.exe select "cleared" (i used to select "type 1" but at some point my camera reset the serial number.) and click "unlock" (if you dont do this step, the twain wont connect because it's in "boot mode" 2) In Photoshop... File|Import|Che-ez! Foxz... The twain menu foo the camera appears. There is a selection box for "delete pictures after download" On the second page there is also a manual delete. I havent fooled around with the Hex stuff, hope that explains it. (Oh and btw- the pinout for the USB is the same as the original dakota cameras) 12-31-2004 20:27:37

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) glypher Profile ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sorry, that info is for a CVS red. 12-31-2004 20:28:23

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) buster Profile Glad to see that some have had success. I have attempted both brite_eye and binaryweavers suggestions. I can get as far as "unlocked" with pv2 tool but still get "operation not permitted in boot loader mode" when trying to pull them off with irfanview. I have tried irfanview open simultaneusly with pv2tool and immediately after closing pv2toll with no apparent difference. I may have rendered my setup useless through countless mishaps. Among other things I discovered that I was using foxz rather than foxz2 drivers. My initial unlocking under foxz drivers lamsmal000... 'd my camera. I may give up and see if CVS has restocked since I bought their last red. I will also try to manually uninstall all driver files and start from scratch on driver installations. binaryweaver- I was able to get your driverx.inf idea installed but it did not help my situation. As a tip to others I made it happen by adding libusb0.dll (or whatever the filename was) in 2 places where a list of the 3 smal???.dll files appeared. 01-01-2005 08:47:37

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) brite_eye Profile buster, try again, but first get a succesful unlock, then unplug, reboot, plug, get a succesful unlock again, bring up Irfan view, update driver to smalunhj.inf, select twain cheez, then acquire or batch scan. What windows are you runnning - there may be a versioning issue. 01-01-2005 11:32:40

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) brite_eye Profile Everyone, I have only had success when diligently following the longest route through windows to switch drivers - do not search, specifiy location, browse, have disk ... At least one and probably two moderators on photo.net are now deleting my forum posts!!! An interesting relation may exist between Keith Fife and Philip Greenspun: "Philip Greenspun, a well known writer and MIT instructor on the development of community web sites, founded photo.net in the early 90's as a showcase for his own travel writing and photography." from photo.net about. "After a year I came back to join some friends at an MIT spinoff company called Symbolics (we made Lisp Machines). Since then I've been involved in research at MIT and startup companies founded by MIT grads." from Philip's biography on photo.net. 01-01-2005 18:36:42

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) glypher Profile um... if you keep getting the boot loader mode: Unlock, download flash image... then download in ifran view it looks as if the "download flash" somehow forces the cam out of the bootloader mode. hope that helps. 01-01-2005 22:21:31

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) jonnie Profile I've hit a brick wall and am back tracking to make sure I've not screwed something up early on. Can anyone confirm what the palm usb connector solders should be for the cvs blue (non lcd). I'm using: white e2 red e5 green e3 black e1 I've followed all the above walkthroughs, and yet when I get to "select the device driver you want to install for this hardware" ..and choose the altered smalunhj (tried both 0028 and 0027 in both places) XP comes back with a: "The Specified Location does not contain information about your hardware" Error. Bangs head on desk. 01-03-2005 13:38:24

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) brite_eye Profile jonnie, If you followed mike's example at the beginning of this thread - it is wrong (he must have wires reversed inside his pc before motherboard). You may need to go back to an original blue thread to obtain correct wiring, or follow morcheeba's pages to connector builds. 01-03-2005 13:46:13

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) jonnie Profile Nope didn't follow his instructions. Actually when I first brought the blue I thought it was a dakota so I followed those, only to discover it was a pv2, so I've been waiting patiently for you bright sparks to find a solution which appears to have been done. Anyway, I followed the instructions from http://www.maushammer.com/systems/dakotadigital/dl-palm.html hence: Hole E1: Ground (Black) Hole E2: Data - (White) Hole E3: Data + (Green) Hole E5: +5V (Red) But I just doesn't seem to "click I do get a beep and a green flash, but then as I mentioned it just tells me that either it doesn't think the driver is related to the plugged in camera or Xp says the new one is no better than the old one. Uninstall doesn't work either. Very confused. 01-03-2005 13:59:02

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) taytrr Profile Jonnie - make aure you put the DCA 27 and DCA 28 entries at both the beginning and end of the smal inf files unlike the libusb that only needs it at the top, then in xp select update driver, not this time, from specific location, dont search, then finally have disk. make sure you're connected as the smal driver, switch to the libusb, then back before trying download. 01-03-2005 14:03:02

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) jonnie Profile Has anyone uploaded the full final working "smal inf" file text. Maybe I'm doing something wrong there. Or is there a Copyright issue with uploading the full file text ? Currently I have: [SMALUSB.models] %USB\VID_0DCA&PID_0028.DeviceDesc%=SMALUSB.Dev, USB\VID_0DCA&PID_0028 ...and... [Strings] MfgName="NHJ Limited" SMALUSB.SvcDesc="Digital Camera Driver" DISK1=1 EMPTY=" " UPMP_CLSID={C5D1F2B5-F972-44c4-A2FB-BB8A443ADABC} USB\VID_0DCA&PID_0028.DeviceDesc="Blue 28" 01-03-2005 14:09:28

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) brite_eye Profile jonnie, Let's first rule out hardware and software versions of your blue - please provide a Vulcan nerve pinch (3 finger salute). Did you download more advanced Foxz2 and not Foxz driver? 01-03-2005 15:43:09

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 2 times) jonnie Profile on/off, self timer and shutter eb 10 43 41 44 14 I just downloaded all the apps today, so I would assume they are the most recent. I basically followed http://www.demanufacturing.com/pv2 01-03-2005 16:27:49

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) brite_eye Profile This could get a little hairy. I can't find my blue Vulcan nerve pinch but I think it was: FIRMWARE 20 HARDWARE 06 TYPEID 28 CMP TYPEID 28 ID Dxxxxx REALM ID 20 So it looks like jonnie has FIRMWARE EB HARDWARE 10 TYPEID 43 CMP TYPEID 41 ID 44 REALM ID 14 jonnie, you can either wait for more of your type, or risk frying your blue. If you want to take a risk (someone is going to have be first), I suggest trying to reset to LaMSSMaL by following my earlier reset sequence: Using Drmn4ea's poker - How to Reset your Camera to LaMSSMAL: 1. getkey, read 141 2. sendkey, read 13 (note this should come after bulkout of key.bin instead of now) 3. no response or error - dont remember 4. close it (poker button), close window, USBPoker.exe, open it (note all without unplugging) 5. getkey, read 141, error which I should have expected - once an error always an error until unplugged and replugged. If a Vulcan nerve pinch now gives _A____A_ then you should be able to retry and succeed with your prior sequence. Note at this point it is very unlikely that 80 or 52 commands will fry a camera - that I believe can only happen with a firmware update (19 I think - check morcheeba's site). Actually we would like to know if the read of your 141 key matches the standard 1 key previously noted in these threads and I think on morcheeba's site. So try to get that first. 01-03-2005 17:33:26

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) brite_eye Profile Looking back at binaryweavers pinch it looks like blues are just presenting a serial key. And no hardware or software levels. I suggest just playing if above reset does not work until you get _A____A_ key. 01-03-2005 17:38:13

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) taytrr Profile jonnie - There are two ways to get data, one produces 6 sets (Shutter-SelfTimer-On), the other 5 (Shutter-Delete-On). Your 6 set is the serial number and should show underscores and A's when reset while the 5 set will still show the rest of the data the same with the realm set to 00. On mine I had the following: FIRMWARE (one and two) 6520 TYPEID (three) 28 CMP TYPEID (four) 28 REALM ID (five) 17 Before reset Shutter-Delete-On = 65 20 28 28 17 Shutter-SelfTimer-On = EA 50 44 12 69 08 After reset Shutter-Delete-On = 65 20 28 28 00 Shutter-SelfTimer-On = _A __ __ A_ __ __ 01-04-2005 01:49:43

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 1 times) jonnie Profile This is the shutter on/off and delete 3 finger salute: 65 20 2f 2f 20 I tried to get the usbpoker app to work, but it kept throwing errors on opening the app, plus in all honesty I'd rather avoid getting to "technical", it might be easier to just pick up another camera. See my goal is to get three or four and mount them on a jig, wire together the shutter buttons and use them to capture cheap and cheerful 1 click panoramics (better than the usual "take a photo, rotate camera, take a photo, rotate...repeat becuase you can take photo's that involve motion with the 1-click) 01-04-2005 07:23:14

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) brite_eye Profile jonnie, please be patient, a much more morcheeba friendly app is on its way (based on recent offline correspondence). Until then you may achieve success by substituting 2F in place of 28. While not really technical I realize that can be a challenge and we will have a better solution before months end. Do not dispair, I 4 1 would like to see your 1 click panoramics! 01-04-2005 09:11:30

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) jonnie Profile "by substituting 2F in place of 28. While not really technical I realize that can be a challenge" No no no, that's easy, I'll give that a try now (a bit obvious really, now I think about it). 01-04-2005 09:27:03

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) jonnie Profile Nope, oh well, I'll be patient. Thanks for the help anyway. 01-04-2005 09:35:54

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) brite_eye Profile jonnie, I can't be patient I want to see some 1 click panoramics. Did you download and install both filter and device for libusb? Please send an email with your modified .inf files to borg12of48 at yahoo dot com along with a phone number and time you can be reached after 6 EST tonight (optional). Make sure you have Drmn4ea's poker downloaded too. 01-04-2005 11:40:43

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) jonnie Profile Yes installed the filter. PLugged in the camera, got beep and LED flash, got "XP doesn't recognise your malfunctioned usb, blah de blah" Ran libusb test: DLL version: 0.1.8.0 Driver version: 0.1.8.0 bus/device idVendor/idProduct bus-0/\.\libusb0-0001--0x8086-0x2444 8086/2444 Couldn't retrieve descriptors bus-0/\.\libusb0-0008--0x8086-0x1120 8086/1120 wTotalLength: 34 bNumInterfaces: 1 bConfigurationValue: 1 iConfiguration: 0 bmAttributes: e0h MaxPower: 50 bInterfaceNumber: 0 bAlternateSetting: 0 bNumEndpoints: 1 bInterfaceClass: 9 bInterfaceSubClass: 0 bInterfaceProtocol: 0 iInterface: 0 bEndpointAddress: 81h bmAttributes: 03h wMaxPacketSize: 1 bInterval: 255 bRefresh: 0 bSynchAddress: 0 bus-0/\.\libusb0-0000--0x1033-0x0035 1033/0035 Couldn't retrieve descriptors bus-0/\.\libusb0-0002--0x1033-0x0035 1033/0035 Couldn't retrieve descriptors bus-0/\.\libusb0-0005--0x045e-0x0053 045E/0053 - Manufacturer : Microsoft - Product : Microsoft 3-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM) wTotalLength: 34 bNumInterfaces: 1 bConfigurationValue: 1 iConfiguration: 0 bmAttributes: a0h MaxPower: 50 bInterfaceNumber: 0 bAlternateSetting: 0 bNumEndpoints: 1 bInterfaceClass: 3 bInterfaceSubClass: 1 bInterfaceProtocol: 2 iInterface: 0 bEndpointAddress: 81h bmAttributes: 03h wMaxPacketSize: 4 bInterval: 10 bRefresh: 0 bSynchAddress: 0 bus-0/\.\libusb0-0006--0x0672-0x1041 0672/1041 - Manufacturer : Labtec - Product : Labtec USB Headset wTotalLength: 288 bNumInterfaces: 4 bConfigurationValue: 1 iConfiguration: 0 bmAttributes: 80h MaxPower: 50 bInterfaceNumber: 0 bAlternateSetting: 0 bNumEndpoints: 0 bInterfaceClass: 1 bInterfaceSubClass: 1 bInterfaceProtocol: 0 iInterface: 0 bInterfaceNumber: 1 bAlternateSetting: 0 bNumEndpoints: 0 bInterfaceClass: 1 bInterfaceSubClass: 2 bInterfaceProtocol: 0 iInterface: 0 bInterfaceNumber: 1 bAlternateSetting: 1 bNumEndpoints: 1 bInterfaceClass: 1 bInterfaceSubClass: 2 bInterfaceProtocol: 0 iInterface: 0 bEndpointAddress: 01h bmAttributes: 09h wMaxPacketSize: 192 bInterval: 1 bRefresh: 0 bSynchAddress: 0 bInterfaceNumber: 2 bAlternateSetting: 0 bNumEndpoints: 0 bInterfaceClass: 1 bInterfaceSubClass: 2 bInterfaceProtocol: 0 iInterface: 0 bInterfaceNumber: 2 bAlternateSetting: 1 bNumEndpoints: 1 bInterfaceClass: 1 bInterfaceSubClass: 2 bInterfaceProtocol: 0 iInterface: 0 bEndpointAddress: 82h bmAttributes: 0dh wMaxPacketSize: 96 bInterval: 1 bRefresh: 0 bSynchAddress: 0 bInterfaceNumber: 3 bAlternateSetting: 0 bNumEndpoints: 1 bInterfaceClass: 3 bInterfaceSubClass: 0 bInterfaceProtocol: 0 iInterface: 0 bEndpointAddress: 83h bmAttributes: 03h wMaxPacketSize: 1 bInterval: 16 bRefresh: 0 bSynchAddress: 0 bus-0/\.\libusb0-0007--0x04a9-0x220e 04A9/220E - Manufacturer : Canon - Product : CanoScan wTotalLength: 39 bNumInterfaces: 1 bConfigurationValue: 1 iConfiguration: 0 bmAttributes: a0h MaxPower: 250 bInterfaceNumber: 0 bAlternateSetting: 0 bNumEndpoints: 3 bInterfaceClass: 255 bInterfaceSubClass: 0 bInterfaceProtocol: 255 iInterface: 0 bEndpointAddress: 81h bmAttributes: 03h wMaxPacketSize: 1 bInterval: 16 bRefresh: 0 bSynchAddress: 0 bEndpointAddress: 82h bmAttributes: 02h wMaxPacketSize: 64 bInterval: 0 bRefresh: 0 bSynchAddress: 0 bEndpointAddress: 03h bmAttributes: 02h wMaxPacketSize: 64 bInterval: 0 bRefresh: 0 bSynchAddress: 0 Does that help? 01-04-2005 12:06:53

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 1 times) jonnie Profile Then I moved the usb lead slighly and it beeped twice and the green led came on and stayed on. "odd" I thought, so I tried to recreate the effect to see if it was a fluke, and now the camera won't turn on, instead it now prefers to just make two beeping noises when the on/off button is pressed. I think I broke it. :'-( Now when I plug it in it gives off three beeps. 01-04-2005 12:20:56

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) brite_eye Profile jonnie, you may need to can canon driver (remove, delete, disconnect). I would also suggest replacing your batteries. 01-04-2005 13:17:26

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) buster Profile To all CVSers don't lose hope. Despite many mishaps I can now reliably download with a reset CVS red 6520 on Windows XP Pro sp2. I am using binaryweavers driverx hybrid driver only (no switching), Forkboys newest PV2Tool, Irfanview, and brite_eyes encouragement and hot plugging tip. Interesting that on my main computer (xp home sp2) pv2tool crashes when the camera is plugged in regardless of active driver (libusb/foxz2/driverx). I will post photos of my cat when I get a chance. 01-04-2005 16:57:47

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) Bloke Profile I joined SOLELY to PROFUSELY Thank ALL of you for pursuing this, Reading these threads has been the high point of the last month or so. Better than any detective story. As a "semi tech" nerd, once it's figured, I can build it. There are many potential users who are dying to try "economical"........ "pano-rigs", "stereo-rigs", "lenticular image rigs", and ..... "dead time" rigs. Thanks Again, Bless You All! cor 01-04-2005 20:01:38

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) brite_eye Profile Several of us have tried duplicating binaryweavers method without success including myself. I believe some have had success. For now only the serious multithread readers with lots of time, desire and patience need try. I hope before month end that someone will be able to post a simple method. That will probably be morcheeba when he is done with his current verification. For anyone wishing to continue to try using the old switch driver method, I am willing to help - just indicate here what you have done along with an email addresss and I will try to set up a phone walk through. 01-04-2005 21:41:12

RE:CVS digital 1 use Cameras...same as others? need info....plz look (modified 0 times) brite_eye Profile buster has posted a process in Questions that worked in all colors and flavors for me - red blue sp1 sp2. My biggest problem was creating driver.inf in the wrong folder - after running setup.exe using defaults you need to create driver.inf in the Program Files/Che-ez! Foxz/driver folder. I started fresh by control panel removing both Cheez and libusb. Good luck - I believe I can now walk anyone through a repeatable process. I added lines for both red 27 and blue 28 (jonnie you may want to add a 2F also). I have asked buster to repost his method from Questions in Success thread. 01-05-2005 01:19:47

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