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CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all

New MessageCVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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A new thread to speed up successes for all CVS cameras (should work for Ritz and Longs too). Any questions, suggestions, discoveries or links are welcome. Please try to keep entries brief with minimal white space to allow faster scrolling up and down.
01-05-2005 06:09:03

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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busters repeatable process reposted: Started by deleting all previous driver files.
1) I am using default installation of only libusb filter version 0.1.8.0
2) My version of driverx works with only 4 lines added.
[SMALUSB.models]
%USB\VID_0DCA&PID_0027.DeviceDesc%=SMALUSB.Dev, USB\VID_0DCA&PID_0027
[SourceDisksFiles]
libusb0.dll=222,,
[SMALUSB.CopyWIAFiles]
libusb0.dll
[Strings]
USB\VID_0DCA&PID_0027.DeviceDesc="CVS Red Foxz2"
3)Newest PV2Tool seems to unlock more reliably than the old.
4)I could not get Irfanview to download until "unlock,unplug,reboot,plug,unlock,download"
5)ever since all I have to do is unlock and download
01-05-2005 06:14:19

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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Che-Ez! Foxz2 driver from: http://www.che-ez.com/jp/download/driver/foxz2/Foxz2.zip
libusb-win32 filter only from: http://sourceforge.net/projects/libusb-win32
IrfanView from: http://www.tucows.com/preview/194967.html
Forkboy’s PV2Tool.exe from: http://forkboy.doesntexist.com
Run libusb-win32 exe.
Run "Setup" file from the Che-ez! Foxz2 package.
Create driverx.inf in Programs FIles/CH-ez! Foxz/driver using smalunhj.inf as base.
Plug in camera - if successful find of previous driver - uninstall
Follow longest path through new install - no search, specify location, have disk, browse ...
Unlock with PV2Tool. If fail unplug, reboot, plug, Pv2tool.
Run Irfan view, Select Twain as Che-ez, File Batch scanning - set location options 100% jpeg.
If bootloader fail unplug reboot plug, PV2tool, Irfan view.
01-05-2005 06:31:12

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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I changed three 23s typeids and three 24s typeids in driverx.inf file to 3 27s and 3 28s and renamed strings to CVS Red 27 bust & CVS Blue 28 bust. jonnie and others may need to add 2B and 2F.
01-05-2005 06:39:47

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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For an example of SMaL's extended dynamic range that even $4000 cameras can not achieve see borf12of48's macroscopic eye: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2980060 . The rapid change from fully saturated white to extreme graphic detail just a pixel away is enough for one to say please SMaL do not fly away fly away.
01-05-2005 08:53:13

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) mike
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I've tried but failed to get the proceedure to work....
all i get is ,,, not permitted in bootloader mode

I cleared as many driver I could find oem.inf etc
rebooted
ran Libusb-win32-filter
ran cheez setup...made inf changes [ I added type27 and type 28]
plugged type 28...unlocked...ran irfanview....selected cheez...batch scan..fail!!!!
I glad it works for some.....

01-05-2005 11:37:56

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) mike
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just took out type 27 now using only type 28.....
It sort of works,,,,,,I can download BLUE with faint black images....
01-05-2005 11:44:28

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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mike, fill it up with outdoor shots some close and some far, then try again. Add fresh batteries and blast your lens with some dust off.
01-05-2005 11:59:30

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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mike, Are you the one who early on got zapped inside a camera? You may want to invest another 9.99 and try again.
01-05-2005 12:01:37

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) jonnie
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OK, I'm game again, so I'll do this step by step, fresh everything.

One issue is immediate:

"Started by deleting all previous driver files."

Where else other than the obvious would these be located, does unistalling che-ez thru Xp's "ad or remove progs" surfice ?

01-05-2005 12:56:45

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) jonnie
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Nope again. But I'm now convinced I've killed my camera some how, it won't turn on (even with fresh batteries) and it giving me a 3 or 4 beep "hello" when I attempt to turn on, or plugin the usb. XP still says that the diver altered as above (but also including a set with 2F values) has nothing to do with the plugged in hardware.

I'm off to CVS to buy a couple more to play with.

01-05-2005 13:17:16

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) mike
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Got success using flatfoto driver and adding the 4 lines...
really added 6 type27 and 28 and left all types enabled within driver....
it isn't 100 % I've had to reboot when changing from type 27 to another type 27
but at least I don't have to switch drivers....I don't know why I can't make fox2
drivers work with this method........
For some reason my photos are inconsistant....many bad [look very grainy]
and some good ...grainy is worse in dark scenes...my crap shots are usually good and
when I want a good pic it is usually crappy.....do these cams have a sweet spot??
01-05-2005 13:29:59

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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mike, it sounds like you never fully removed the flatfoto drivers. The only way I was able to get good pictures initially was to use another XP where flatfoto drivers had not been installed. I can not now remember what I finally did to get rid of flatfoto drivers on other XPs but I think control panel removing all but basics may have helped - including photodesk, studio, impression ... from Arcsort and MP Album, along with several others I had been playing with. Try plugging your camera and uninstalling all drivers that recognize it first before attempting above procedures.
01-05-2005 14:19:12

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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jonnie, did you try removing the canon driver I saw in your listing?
01-05-2005 14:20:17

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) jonnie
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yup. I think the camera is borked, it's not acting the way it did, I'll pick up a couple of new ones tomorrow.
01-05-2005 17:35:23

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) insomniac40
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I hope this is helpful to definitively answer the question about whether the current Ritz and CVS blues are the same (if it hasn't already been answered)and I hope I am posting this in the right thread. I have both a recent Ritz Blue (purchased yesterday) and a CVS Blue (purchased today) and there are no discernable differences between the two barring the obvious external packaging (i.e. lables). Following are the results of the three finger salute as you guys call it with zero done to either camera just FYI.
Ritz Blue Model 400
Shutter-Selftimer-On = EA 30 20 50 99 14
Shutter-Delete-On = 65 10 28 28 16
CVS Blue Model 400
Shutter-Selftimer-On = EA 60 44 23 34 38
Shutter-Delete-On = 65 20 28 28 20
I just picked up a CVS red as well and will be trying to follow along with you geniuses. Now that I have read through the threads about a dozen times I am going to give it a go.
CVS Red Model 410
Shutter-Display-On
Firmware 6520
Hardware 06
TypeID 2B
CMP Type ID 2B
ID DB1043822900
Realm ID 20

Regards,
insomniac40
There will be plenty of time to sleep when we're dead

01-06-2005 11:23:42

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) BenSparkle
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This ought to be usefull for those of you about to buy them...

A $5 off for the picture viewer one...

http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/promotion?pid=5735

01-06-2005 14:34:47

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) Asterus
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Could somone please post an idiot resistant version of how to download the pictures alone with how to make the cable?

Asterus

01-08-2005 00:02:53

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) insomniac40
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Asterik,

It's coming. Right now the experts are still working on it and they are very close. Right now it's still a little complicated for everybody because you have to alter files and make sure your usb bus is clear of other devices, etc. But be patient it's coming and if you want to go at it anyway then just read all the threads over a couple of times and all of a sudden it begins to make sense and then start just trying different things. All the info you seek is in the threads.

Re: USB conflicts from my experience are avoidable and can be eliminated so you can achieve succes using buster's procedure repeatably. Here is what I have done to avoid conflict in my case.

1. Unplug all usb devices
2. reboot
3. if you get NTLDR error like I do then one of your USB devices (in my case my photoprinter with mass storage device) has become part of your system hardware registry (or something like that) and you need to work around it.
Work around: find out which device is used at boot up as part of your system hardware registry by plugging in devices previously unplugged one at a time and reboot (cntrl-alt-delete). Once you identify that device reboot with only that device plugged in and then unplug usb before OS starts up and identifies/configures the device. This way you get through bootup without configuring device in OS.
4. Now plug in camera to usb
5. Uninstall libusb with cntrl pnl-addremoveprograms
6. Unplug and replug camera
7. Install libusb (note should take at least a minute to identify usb device)Test will show no devices attached
8. Unplug and replug camera libusb test should show camera only attached to usb
9. Run PV2Tool unlock
10. Irfanview to download images as described in busters procedure in success

01-13-2005 08:50:19

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) insomniac40
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Sorry, just tried to use my own "repeatable process" without success because I left out a reboot. Step 6 should read:

6. Unplug camera and reboot (unplugging usb device before OS as necessary) and replug camera

That's what works for me anyway for what it's worth.

01-13-2005 09:29:30

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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insomniac40, please consider obtaining an ID at photo.net. They are free for up to 7 pictures and you only need supply an email address. I have received several negative comments from "expert" photographers refusing to believe cheap hacked cameras can produce viable photos. Good shots from your plane should refute any biased criticism since I doubt anyone would attempt flying a $1000 camera. I have posted the first 8 successes including your panorama, but can't avoid a by line showing up with my name (I include an ignore by line along with pointers back to originator). A good plane photo should be posted by you - perhaps of you hinting a 1 finger salute to snobs and zombies that stay in tune stepping in same line every day (gosh does that include me on most days?).
01-13-2005 11:08:37

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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Some break dakotmod, you can have your old Ritz you old fool - I want a newer CVS T30 that requires updated software - probably also produces a nicer image using better autobrite. mike and others, is there any way to distinguish without a Vulcan nerve pinch and with packaging still on? I wonder if I can pinch through packaging. Maybe I'll just buy a few, open all, nerve pinch all, and carefully re-enclose and return older unused 28s.
01-15-2005 08:39:41

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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Went looking for some T30's found a T2F. Tried to talk store manager into letting me Vulcan pinch a few - he did not believe he was selling deferent versions until I showed him a pinch. He said they are selling more than 30 a week. Interpolating 4000 stores after 2 months that could be over a million cameras! After a mass of confusion over $5 coupon a new Red and 2 new Blues with several rescans of cameras my extracare and managers tag, when I made finally made it back home I was missing my CVS extra care receipt good for $5 off next purchase; but just realized that the $23 I spent on 3 cameras was greatly in my favor! I am now going to a computer show to pick up some $1 mini USB cables to hopefully cut and solder to cameras.
01-15-2005 13:05:12

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) mike
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make your own camera plug......
I use a 3/16 thick teflon ,,bakelite or plastic or wood? would probably work
1> shape to fit camera.....
2> drill 2 very small holes #78 to be inline with each pin....this will be the contact for the pin
3> after drilling the 8 holes ..thread # 18 copper wire thru each set of 2 holes making 4 contacts
4> flatten wires good against plug and trim off pigtails nearest camera to be flush with the plastic
5> solder usb cable to small contact pigtail..fasten cable to plug for strain relief
6> dress up connector ,,, takes about 1 hr to make,,,,works very good
========|___|
> however the contacts are not spring loaded...rubber would probably work best
>>> clear as mud isn't
01-15-2005 14:59:00

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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On my way to the computer show at Gibraltar Trade Center, I stopped to check ice at Metro Beach. Most years after a melt and fast temperature drop black ice forms, which is the best sailing ice. While normally a 100 ice fishermen would have been expected this time of year - there was just open water, little ice and no shanties. A very kind and considerate Park Officer took me in his cruiser out to the point for what I think are some of my best shots (using CVS Blue 28): http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=464598
I even tried my first panoramic using irfanview and hugin plugin (not a simple download install). I failed to get the final Enblend working which removes seams. When I click on Enblend.exe it flashes a screen and ends - does anyone have some suggestions?
01-15-2005 23:31:08

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) mike
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CVS BLUE modified lens and set PID=29 I think the final lens setting is approx
3 turn counter clockwise...you must pry off shutter assy...its held on bu
doublesidded tape...using jewelers screw driver clean the glue from lens threads
use small longnose pliers to insert into lens holes and turn ccw...if you did a good job
scrapping,,,it should not be too hard to breakloose....use good judgement

took 3 pics of trashed CVS BLUE approx 4/5/6 inches
http://webpages.charter.net/msw101144/ScanIfox201.jpg
http://webpages.charter.net/msw101144/ScanIfox202.jpg
http://webpages.charter.net/msw101144/ScanIfox202.jpg

01-16-2005 19:26:42

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) jonnie
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My earlier issue with getting 2F instead of 28 or 27 when vulcan pinching has expanded.

I am now in posession of 3 blue CVS cameras, all of which are showing 2F ???

Is this a common occurence, anyone seen a work around, I still can't get any of them to be recognized. All very strange.

01-18-2005 08:34:48

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) mike
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Jonnie
When I trashed my CVS BLUE T28 Firmware,, the Reported pid changed to 2F and so far have not found any workaround...usbpoker / libusb will talk to it cmd 51 and 26 ...see bluedonkey.org
http://www.bluedonkey.org/cgi-bin/twiki/bin/view/Linux/DakotaPv2Camera
01-18-2005 09:12:29

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) jonnie
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The ones I've had this repeat on are brand new, out of the box, no trashing involved.

Hmmmm.

01-18-2005 10:51:31

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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jonnie, I picked up a new CVS Blue 2F on Saturday. I have been afraid to try anything until my head is clear - but even with a migraine I'll at least see what PV2Tool204 can read tonight. What version of Windows, USB (1.1 or 2.0), and how fast is your CPU? Do you have all other USB devices disconnected and deinstalled?
01-18-2005 12:53:42

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) mike
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jonnie... I have 3 CVS BLUES that show 65 20 2F 2F 20 ...they all work fine using pid of 28
and all have been unlocked using pv2tool204...
one of them I using for my macro pics....
try using usbsniff or usbview [if windoz] to determine if your camera is being enumerated..
you can see what pid is being returned
01-18-2005 15:45:52

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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mike, earlier you wrote "When I trashed my CVS BLUE T28 Firmware,, the Reported pid changed to 2F". What was your pinch before you trased the firmware? Are any of your three unreset original serial number non LaMSSMaL?
01-18-2005 16:12:47

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) mike
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brite_eye.... that was too many usbpokes ago the last I remember was _A__A_ something
01-18-2005 18:53:14

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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jonnie, I am willing to call you if you email a number and time to borg12of48 at yahoo dot com. Did you ever install an updated libusb - I could not get the latest 11/18/04 version to work with these cameras. I think in less than a half hour we can get one of your cameras to at least enumerate with libusb.

mike, did you trash all three and now have none that are not LaMSSMaL.

01-18-2005 19:30:26

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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No problems with my new blue 2F - PV2Tool204 finds 28, connects, unlocks new, lists fine, downloads files, downloads flash, disconnect - and then I thought I checked and still had non reset camera with original serial number. But then I switched to an SP2 from an SP1 system to see if I could imitate jonnie's failure. I couldn't seem to get rid of 11/18/04 libusb driver and could not get libusb filter to enumerate without installing foxz2 drivers and updating inf file. I never tried to unlock just enumerate - any way now it is a reset _A____A_ (displays lowercase as upper and now upper for LaMSSMaL). Has anyone been able to upload old image and get back to a non reset mode? I still have camcalib and pdscrtch and there does not seem to be an issue with LaMSSMaL but it would be nice to understand the strangeness behind this craziness. Has anyone ever met Keith Fife in person? or is he permanently buried in his own patents? Gosh where is morcheeba - hope he is not buried with in his new PSP.
01-18-2005 20:15:28

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) mike
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brite_eye.. I've only trashed 1
I have 2 @ 2f and display 6520 2F 2F 20 and has been unlocked....
1 @ 2f and display 6520 2F 2F 20 and has been NOT been messed with,,,,,YET
2 @ 28 and display 6520 28 28 20 and has been unlocked....
and 1 d-sucks-300 I can't figure out...
I have uploaded patched firmware.bin and also patched flash.img files....

morcheeba.. have you looked at the $26 cmd???

01-18-2005 20:47:45

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) jonnie
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Brite_Eye thanks for the offer of 1 on 1 telephone support, I won't waste your time for the moment, let me reinstall everything fresh again and try one more time with all the new cameras. Thanks.
01-21-2005 08:13:52

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) fooble
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Anyone with CVS 6510, see my post in 2 4 Hex we appreciate wrt unlocking and using with Mac...
02-20-2005 18:36:50

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) SmartM
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I've been reading through these forums for the past week or so. Last Friday I went out and bought a CVS Red. Following the steps on the page written on how to do it, I trashed one camera with a firmware upload and I got the double beep 'o' death. I went and got a new one this time I made NO modifications to the firmware files on the camera. I installed the libusb drivers and then the Che-ez! drivers. installed infraview. I kept getting the bootloader mode so I just kept trying. What follows is how i get my pictures to upload EVERYTIME. My system is an hp laptop. amd 64 processor. windows xp, sp2. 512 MB Ram.
Open PV2TOOL 2.06 *(beta)*.
Plug in camera.
find camera
find camera
connect to camera
connect to camera
unlock camera ( i use the new unlock key)
right after you unlock camera open up InfraView (don't wait for it to say sucess, although it should say it eventually)
Once Infraview is opened, you will need to have selected your TWAIN previously at Che-ez! (32-32) (top one), and the PV2 says unlocked.
click batch scanning and then okay.
This should pop up the box to download.
Get pics.
Also i have modified my version of the driver in the che-ez fox2 software as noted above at beginning of thread.
I use the same USB port as was used when i first installed the cheez software.
I hope this helps someone.
Thanks for everyone's suggestions in this and all the other threads.
02-24-2005 20:00:20

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) ForkBoy
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Which version of LibUSB are people having success with?

Are most people using the filter version or the bin version?

* Also, BillW has pointed out to me that PV2Tool 2.06 Beta only works with Libusb version 0.1.8.0

I am planning a release in the near future based on the new libusb 0.1.10.0

02-25-2005 07:09:27

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) brite_eye
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SmartM, please enter details in failure tread for fried camera. Did you unplug immediately after firmare update?

forkboy, i have had several problems switching between libusb versions but reccomend coding for latest version without filter. I plan to post md5sums in firmware thread. Can you add a scan for a unique code sequence, verify block crc, modify part of code seq, and rewrite just one block with an unchanged 8 bit checksum? Please add message to disconnect cable after upload or write - I think fries happen due to camera bug after write ops.

02-25-2005 10:50:56

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) billw
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Anybody want to plump up their PV2/CVS website? I created a couple of skins for the screens of the Red camera that I think others might be interested in.
02-27-2005 08:47:08

New MessageRE:CVS Red & Blue - 1 2 many 4 all (modified 0 times) binaryweaver
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BillW- I could host the skins for you on my site if you'd like. I would just add a link to it in my "links" section and maybe a link from the blog as well. Let me know if you need hosting.
http://www.demanufacturing.com/pv2
02-27-2005 15:29:54

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