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New MessageTigerDirect (modified 0 times) jsmmd
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I try my best to watch this unit on Tiger Direct. I've seen it go from $199 to $179 yesterday?, to $159 as of just a moment ago. If it hits the $100 range or below I'd be tempted to get it to see how the two differ. The shipping is estimated at $32.09 to me.

If anyone sees the price drop please report it here. Also, if anyone finds an online coupon code, etc.. please post it here.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=N52-1072%20P

04-04-2003 22:03:45

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) MHeadroom
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the tiger dot.station is listed as 3rd party refurb. I wonder if this means the bios has been updated to unlock the machine?

-mheadroom

04-05-2003 04:42:49

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) keith721
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kinda late, but this is to let anyone reading this thread know:

the refurbed units from TigerDirect do allow access into the BIOS, provided you connect a standard USB 104-key keyboard, and press the appropriate keys during the POST sequence.

keith721

04-11-2003 20:02:40

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) jsmmd
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Better late then never.
04-11-2003 20:13:26

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) Kludgemeister
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When I just checked (9PM PDT Friday) TigerDirect says:

"We're Sorry. Your search for N52-1072 P is currently not available. Below is a listing of similar products you can view. Otherwise, you can modify your search criteria."

Kludgemeister

04-11-2003 21:31:40

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) keith721
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They still have units; they've just placed a hold on new orders, while they review the inventory. Apparently, they were not aware that any units came with only 64 MB memory, or 4.3 GB hard disk drives. After I inquired, and mentioned that jkgamer had the same discrepancy with his TigerDirect dot.station, they put a temporary hold on new orders. They need to straighten out the exact specs with their refurbishing agent, and either revise the price for the lesser configuration, or insure that all units ship with 128 MB RAM and 10 GB hard disk drives.

Be patient, and sometime next week they may be cheaper.

keith721

04-11-2003 21:49:00

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) jsmmd
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=N52-1072%20P

It's back up. It seems from first glance they have the old specifications. I guess they are either upgrading the hardware, or continuing to false advertise.

$159.97.

04-22-2003 08:20:40

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) GWIZAH
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Hey Ive been watching this board with some interest lately...Does Bob still have any units left? Or is TigerDirect the best way to go?
04-28-2003 09:19:29

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) jkgamer
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Well GWIZAH,
It all depends upon how you wish to use the dot.whatever. If you want to be able to use it right away, I would suggest that you go with the TigerDirect version "dot.tiger". If you are looking for a challenge and wish to join the quest to unlock the Spanish (as in Spain, not Mexico) version, then by all means go with the "dot.bob" version.

The dot.tigers have already been refurbished by TigerDirect, so they are already functional. They have a debian 3.0 linux distribution installed. However, I do not believe the phone works with these systems. I could never get my phone to work on the one I received. My dot.tiger came with 64Megs of RAM and a 4Gig Hard Drive. This is the same as the specs for the dot.bobs, even though the TigerDirect description claims 128Meg and 10Gig.

The dot.bobs come all locked up, not physically, but through the firmware and the Operating System. You can review the messages on this forum and you will discover a few clues as to what's necessary to 'attempt' an unlock of dot.bob. BUT as of today, I don't know of any success' in unlocking the units. Which means they are pretty much useless until someone does discover a way to unlock them.

As mentioned before, I have a dot.tiger, but I am also expecting my dot.bob tomorrow via UPS. I, like others on this forum, look forward to the challenge of finding a way to unlock the dot.bobs. If you feel up to the challenge, I am sure everyone here would welcome your participation. As I type this message, it appears that BOB still has one up on e-bay for $100.00 with free shipping. If you don't mind taking up the challenge or waiting for someone to come up with an unlock solution, that's about half of what TigerDirect will charge you after shipping.

jkgamer

04-28-2003 17:59:32

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) GWIZAH
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Thanks for the info Jkgamer,

I was thinking of picking up a pair of these for myself and my folks, but now that I hear that the dot.bob's are still locked up I might reconsider. However, breaking into the bits is half the fun! Maybe I'll pick up a tiger version and a Bob version...

04-29-2003 10:59:13

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) huggy59
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I picked up a unit from Tiger Direct, which arrived today, and the invoice had the Support 800 number for Wintergreen Systems. Just got off the phone with a tech over there. I had called to see if they knew the root password. They don't. Apparently they got a bunch of the units from a project closure in Portugal, with a dongle and a Debian load in English. Still have the spanish (portuguese?) keyboard.

So they loaded them up and are selling through Tiger for $160. I don't know all the details on mine, except that it does have a quite large number of programs and "stuff" on it. I have yet to really get into it... this weekend will provide the time.

Does anyone have the root pw for the Debian load? Can't even change the time without the "administrative" password... might be better to load Winblows on this unit, anyway... for what I want to do with it. Does the phone work under Windows?


- huggy59
05-15-2003 16:41:28

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) jkgamer
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Sorry huggy59, but I didn't save the debian install. However, I will tell you that Red Hat 9.0 installed quite easily via a USB CDROM drive. The only 'gotcha' was that I had to append "apm=off" to the boot start-up after the install, otherwise it hangs on booting when it reaches the apm stuff. I also installed the latest version of Opera on my dot.tiger. I found the Opera browser to be more useable with the stock blue keyboard that comes with the units. I've set up my dot.tiger in the kitchen as a dedicated web browser. Now if I can get my dot.bob's BIOS reflashed, I can set it up in the bathroom -grin-. Ahh, the web from every room in the house. LOL.

jkgamer

05-15-2003 20:50:00

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) jsmmd
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email me the password file(s). I might be able to crack it..??
jsmmd / MethodicJon
05-15-2003 21:49:55

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) huggy59
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Ah, there's the rub. The logon user (usuario) doesn't have access to those files, of course. I haven't been able to get the passwd or shadow files from the unit as I haven't taken it apart yet. If I get the shadow file onto my other machine, I can probably get the password decoded. Will try it this weekend.
05-16-2003 14:35:35

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) jsmmd
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If you put that HD in another computer and use Knoppix to read the file. Email me to talk about this more.
jsmmd / MethodicJon
05-16-2003 15:25:35

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) SiliconIce
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"Just got off the phone with a tech over there. I had called to see if they knew the root password. They don't. Apparently they got a bunch of the units from a project closure in Portugal, with a dongle and a Debian load in English."

Wonder if they'd share the dongle's image...or at least a description of its contents?

05-16-2003 23:54:14

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) keith721
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SiliconIce said:
Wonder if they'd share the dongle's image...or at least a description of its contents?

This was the approach I attempted to take when talking with John Marshall at Wintergreen, and his lead tech guy, whose name eludes me. They both pointed towards each other when asked about the contents of the USB dongle. Apparently, neither of them has investigated it, since it works; and that's all they need, is a working dongle. On the other hand, I did share some information about the unit with them, and pointed them to this message board, so they might be open to working with us.

I think the best thing might be to help Wintergreen use the DOS DOLLY or Linux 'dd' utility to take an image copy of the device, and hack the image ourselves. It would benefit them in that they could make a safety/backup copy of the dongle for their own purposes, and we could analyze the image for our own purposes.

Whaddya think?

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keith721

05-17-2003 08:01:40

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) huggy59
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Doesn't hurt to ask. I spoke with Ken Marshall at Wintergreen. Maybe they are brothers? Hopefully I'll have the root password to the Tiger Debian installation a little later today. Fingers crossed!
- huggy59
05-17-2003 08:42:23

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) huggy59
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I didn't make much progress over the weekend - I'm missing my set of secure screwdriver bits, so I had to order another one. When they come in, I'll tackle the dot.station again and pull the HD. Will keep everyone posted on progress here.
- huggy59
05-20-2003 09:08:01

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) jsmmd
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You don't need security bits to open the machine. Just use a flat head to break the middle tip off.
05-20-2003 19:25:59

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) huggy59
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Ok, I have the case open, but where's the hard drive? Do I have to pull the monitor assembly to get to it? These certainly weren't designed for ease of service.
05-22-2003 12:09:24

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 1 times) huggy59
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Never mind - got it thanks to your web site pics, jsmmd. Now I have to disassembly my workstation and add the drive... boot Knoppix and see what we get. Maybe tonight! BTW, I've got a 10G Samsung drive in mine.
05-22-2003 12:32:13

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) huggy59
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Ok, I haven't had a chance to put my dot.station back together to test this and I won't be able to work on it any longer today or over the weekend... but the password cracker tool tells me the password is root1969 for the root account on the Tiger unit I have. Someone can try this on their unit and confirm... Next week I'll be able to put my unit back together and boot it up to test. Good luck!
- huggy59
05-23-2003 11:32:09

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) jsmmd
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Slightly off topic

If someone would be willing to make an image of the dot.tiger HDD, I'd host it.

05-23-2003 13:06:05

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) huggy59
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Ok, I got my machine back together tonight, but the password I recovered isn't working, so I guess I got the wrong file(s) or wrong partition info, etc. Will keep at it. If anyone finds the real root password on the Tiger units, please post!
05-27-2003 16:59:35

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) huggy59
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GOT IT! Used a different password recovery tool. Root password for the Tiger model I have is "ui" - and I'm in as root on my box. Now to change things to US, etc...
05-27-2003 17:16:18

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) jsmmd
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sweet!
05-27-2003 19:09:56

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) sasquatch666
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Hello, I just ordered one from TigerDirect and am waiting for it to arrive, I hope to get a BeOS5 personal edition for linux parttion up and running on this thing most of the HW is supported by BeOS the rub I'm sure will be the USB KB which has always been a crapshoot with BeOS,if i fail at this venture i will try QNX as the second OS, but if all else fails it still will be cool to have a linux box and i really can't why a person couldn't get some linux software off the web an make a fairly nice little computer from one of these
does anyone know what all linux apps are included on one of these tiger boxes? gimp?xmms?Tiger says there are games. word processing,and some math software included. I hope I dont get ripped off on the harddrive like some of you did, will they make good on this?
Notice:
If you notice this notice,
you will notice this notice
is not worth noticing.
Duh
05-27-2003 22:10:39

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) jsmmd
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Anyone willing to compress and send me any OS images, I'll be glad to archive them, and if possible, post them somewhere to be downloaded.
05-28-2003 12:03:41

New MessageRoot Password for all Dot.Tigers (modified 0 times) sasquatch666
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Got my dot.tigerb yesterday and it worked fine but the phone does not wrk and i found out that it will not work even when pluged directly into the phone lines and furthermore the cord will not work even when used for other applications.
somewhere in my tinkering i lost the userio account and it would not boot without a password, to make a long story short i called rhe toll free # and hung aruond until I got a human voice and the very nice man on the other end told ne the root password for all these dot.tigers is:ui that's all just ui and it works just fine so I went in as root and got rid of userio but i have no idea how to set up a user account inside any(there's also gnome and a few other x windows gui's once you get to the login menu ,just like most linux disros i have seen)the KDE control center has a feature to remove users,or disable them but there is no item to add a new one,they always giive you that option on the installation but as the OS is pre installed I have no idea how to accomplish this(I run BeOS as my main OS and there is none of this stuff there,it's a single-user OS)but i want to configure this system for a 10 yr old girl,and do not want her to have root access(linux is not real familiar to me and i get stuck on a lot of thing myself let alone her,but she loves th e look of the OS and the eductional and game software included on this thing) BTW the suuport msn told me to rig a CDrom drve inside the thing with a standard dual drive cable and set it ti the slave position and it will work to install any other OS he reccomended a new linux install or win98.
gl
05-30-2003 18:34:36

New MessageRE:TigerDirect (modified 0 times) jsmmd
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Are the dot.tigers still coming with the 4gig drives? or the 10gig drives as listed?

Also, can some post the phone number for Wintergreen?

06-24-2003 13:06:58

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