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FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 1 times) luismi Profile Hi, Trying to improve my dot.subastaspc with a P-III, 256 MB and 40 GB, I read as much as I could on this BBS, Spanish one, INTEL Docs, etc. According to INTEL MoBo manual, a P-III 800 MHz is the maximum supported with BIOS version P04, and must be "B" version for setting the FSB up to 133 MHz, i.e. a "P-III 800EB". But this micro is almost imposible to find here in Europe, and a guy in the computer shop told me that nowadays all P-IIIs are made in .18 µ and 133 MHz, so I asked for a 866 MHz that has the same stepping and core voltage as 800EB. However, once plugged, I only get 650 Mhz and a FSB of 100 MHz (which is correct: 866/133 = 6.5 and 6.5 x 100 = 650). Now I'm wondering if the problem would be the CPU (not being really a "B"), or the BIOS version (a P03ABAZ), or even the MoBo itself, because a modification to limit the FSB frequency (just a pull-down restistor connected to BSEL1 line on the micro. Here in Spain are people who overclock the system by soldering a resistor on the MoBo). Don't forguet these Dot.stations were equiped with Celeron micros only. Does somebody have any experience on this? TIA, and sorry if this toppic has already been touched, I couldn't find it. 06-28-2003 08:46:41

OK, I think I found it... (modified 0 times) luismi Profile The problem is a wrong chipset version. My MoBo should have an 810E (according to release date), but actually has an 82810 (w/o "E", and part of 810 version), thus not 133 MHz supported. Thanks. 06-30-2003 03:33:11

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile So is it safe to say I would be ok (on a BIOS upgraded 810e MB) to get a 133Mhz 256 Meg Memory and 800Mhz PIII? 07-03-2003 16:32:10

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 1 times) luismi Profile Well, the fact is that my MoBo is an 810E but the chipset not. As you can see in this picture http://www.linux-hacker.net/~jsmmd/pictures/dotbob/high/33.jpg , "INTEL DES... MO810e" can be read (upwards) on the board intelf, and "FW82801AB" is printed on the chip. In order to get ATA66 HD interface, a "82801AA" version is needed. Also, in this another shot http://www.linux-hacker.net/~jsmmd/pictures/dotbob/high/32.jpg , a "FW82810" (not a 82810E) makes a 133 MHz FSB impossible to get, at least automaticly by CPU type detection. So, in my case (and in the photos one) it isn't a matter of software upgrading. luismi (pictures borrowed from linux-hacker.net/~jsmmd) 07-04-2003 02:17:57

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) Kludgemeister Profile The good news is that the BOXD810EMO ("Box") motherboards on eBay right now have all the good parts--4MB video cache, 82810E, 82801AA. They come with the P04 BIOS. And they are very cheap--US$10-20 each. The bad news is that to fit in an AOL, the back-panel VGA and audio connectors need to be changed, and many of the internal headers for use with the original modem are absent (along with the other components to activate them.) Kludgemeister 07-06-2003 00:19:23

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Found a "double-sided" 256 Meg 133 chip which works well in the dot.bob...now to max out the CPU...I have had my bios updated (works well) and looking to see what I can use....anyone out there max out a dot.bob yet? I am leaving my board out until completed.... 07-16-2003 06:14:10

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) christopherboyce Profile Well, I'm right up there with you pretty much. I have 256MB in...but I also have an 800mhz PIII sitting right here that I just tried to stick in. It's an 800EB/256/133/1.65V. I stuck it in...but just a black screen. I haven't checked out any additional info in here yet, as far as jumper switches, etc...I figured the board auto detected. Perhaps I should see about a BIOS update... Anyways, I'll let you know. Additionally, I do have WinXP Pro installed...Wireless PCI...and a DVD-ROM in there. : ) Once I get this PIII to work, I'll probably be done, 'cept for probably getting a DVD-CD-RW in there sometime down the way. 07-16-2003 17:33:18

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) christopherboyce Profile Well, I have tried the P04 and P05 versions of the BIOS, and the machine will still not boot up (or even give me any type of boot up screen) with the 800 PIII installed. This was a good pull too, for the CPU. So any suggestions would be great. I'm an IT Professional...but I have exhausted all of my options, that I can think of. Too tired with it anymore. lol 07-16-2003 19:35:51

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile I have only tried a PIII 550Mhz so far....have a 1 Ghz...will try it but most likely will not work... 07-16-2003 22:03:23

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) luismi Profile christopherboyce, can you check the version of your chipset? Please read my previous posts. If my undertanding is right, a P-III800EB must "force" a FSB frequency up to 133 MHz, but you need also a chip 82810E for this value to be supported (in fact, I think it was the only improvement from 82810 to 82810E). Without "E" version but a P-III (not "EB"), the system runs at 100 MHz of FSB and you get a lower frequency in the CPU core (CPU core freq. = FSB freq. x multiplying factor). I don't know what happen if you plug an "EB" processor, but may be the cause of your blank screen. The values for FSB and CPU core frequencies can be checked by entering to BIOS setup (pressing F2 during POST, if you can reach that, of course). luismi 07-16-2003 22:58:41

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) christopherboyce Profile I can reach the BIOS Set-up just fine...and everything works great when/if I put back in the OEM 300mhz Celeron. I don't have this right in front of me now, but I am 99.9% certain the chipset says "82810E"...as I looked at it again last night to make sure. "The values for FSB and CPU core frequencies can be checked by entering to BIOS setup." I can see this with the OEM processor...but whenever I put in the 800EB...I can't get anything to come up...everything seems to work fine (HD spins, power/LEDs), but just no screen. I have tried F2 during this process, but still nothing comes up on screen. Perhaps it is working in the background, but just no screen. I'm going to mess with it again in a couple hours. Hopefully I can figure something out. Heck, I would be happy with the 650mhz that you got out of the 866. lol Also, just fyi, I have also changed the jumpers to Set-Up mode, etc...to no avail. I'm quite certain it's not a bad chip...but perhaps I should check it again in another machine. 07-17-2003 12:39:27

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) christopherboyce Profile I have "MO810e" on the board. I also have "FW82810" and "F025IE70" and "SL3P7" on the chipset. It also says that is was made in "Korea '98". My PIII 800 is an "800EB/256/133.1.65V" circa '00. I have tried the OEM, P04, and P05 BIOSes with no luck. Just won't boot. 07-21-2003 17:41:58

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) luismi Profile Well, in my opinion that's the reason why it doesn't boot. The chipset is a set of 3 chips: the Northbridge, an 82810 chip (or FW82810 as is printed); the Southbridge (an 82801/FW82801 chip); and the BIOS (an 82802 chip). Northbridges deal with CPUs and memories, so with FSB, and Southbridges manage I/O ports. Yours' version is 810 (plain, not "E"), thus an 133 MHz FSB is not supported. Since your PIII is "EB", which means that such a bus is forced, there must be a conflict. I guess the Southbridge on your MoBo will be an FW82801AB chip (not FW82801AA), and in this case you can't reach also an ATA66 interface with the H.D., only ATA33. 07-22-2003 10:55:47

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) christopherboyce Profile "Yours' version is 810 (plain, not "E")..." No, my version is an 'E'. And you have my chipset wrong...I wrote exactly what it stated. Anyways, doesn't matter...just have to get a different chip...I don't care if it isn't the max 800mhz...just something more powerful than the Celeron. I have my HD and a DVD-ROM hooked up to it now, with XP Pro/256MB RAM, and movies run pretty good...despite the 4MB video RAM. Music, etc...plays just fine. That's about all I"m going to do with it...doubt I'll put in a TV Tuner. I would take what you had (just getting the 650 out of the 866) if I could. I have this 800EB chip, that I won't care to use in anything else. Any takers? lol 07-22-2003 14:43:23

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) christopherboyce Profile ...and it is on wireless...so that is the main thing for me. lol 07-22-2003 14:45:12

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) wfg97079 Profile Any developments here? 08-14-2003 19:49:25

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Currently have a 550Mhz PIII in. Dot.Bob would only work with this CPU with Slocket chip. It is most likely the issue of the FSB and the inability to modify it on this version of the Dot.Bob. Anyone make progress with this? I have tried 1 Gig Coppermine chips with no luck yet. Might try an 800Mhz Coppermine..see how this works... 09-06-2003 10:17:21

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile <christopherboyce>Any luck with any chip faster than your Celeron? Me I am still using a 550Mhz but changed OS to XP. Originally searching for an 800Mhz for my Dot.Bob ...but looks like it may not work...(unless I tried a 100FSB 800Mhz instead of a 133FSB...)Anyone out there try one yet? I still have mine on the workbench waiting for this piece and upgrading to a slime drive (connectivity appears straight forward)...it's the cutting and making the outer shell nice looking that I am waiting for... 09-21-2003 12:34:12

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Purchased a 100Mhz FSB 850Mhz FC...will see how that works on the dot.bob... 09-30-2003 14:05:22

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Great News! The 850Mhz 100FSB 370 FC worked. BUT only with the Lin Lin slocket adaptor. It is much faster running at 850Mhz than 550Mhz Windows XP. I also have a 256Meg SIMM for memory. Next project is CD-Rom. 10-03-2003 15:51:46

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) wfg97079 Profile Where can I get one of these slocket adapters? Does it fit inside the Dot? How much did you get the processor for? 10-16-2003 07:59:28

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile Here is where I bought it at: http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=S370TUA ("FC-PGA2 Tualatin Converter for Socket370 FC-PGA Motherboards" Part #: S370TUA) -- added by moderator I am currently running 850Mhz PIII 100FSB / 256 Megs memory and runing XP. Doing the slim cdrom mod and cutting the back for a video/tv/fm card. Making it kind of an "ICEBOX" 10-16-2003 17:16:41

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) wfg97079 Profile Would this work? Pentium III Costa Rica 800EB/256/133/1.65v 3029A011-0923 SL3Y2 11-17-2003 14:35:02

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile I don't think a 133FSB will work. I have tried and never could get one to boot. 11-17-2003 18:02:45

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile I believe that the Dot.Bob's are have a fixed FSB of 100mhz and cannot be upgraded without a major effort to a FSB of 133Mhz. Earlier post stated: "The problem is a wrong chipset version. My MoBo should have an 810E (according to release date), but actually has an 82810 (w/o "E", and part of 810 version), thus not 133 MHz supported." 11-18-2003 07:59:57

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) HelicopterHobo Profile I purchased the Lin-Lin 370TUA Slocket adapter and installed with a Pentium III 850Mhz 100Mhz FSB 256K FCPGA CPU. When I turn the computer on it shows the intel screen then shutsdown immediately.I'm wondering if I'm using the wrong jumper settings in the Slocket adapter. Pete C what settings did you use? 12-03-2003 15:36:31

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) HelicopterHobo Profile I finally got the 850Mhz/100FSB Pentium III to work, by setting the jumpers on the Lin-Lin Slocket according to the instructions for a Tualatin CPU on a motherboard with Intel chipset. Prior it had been set according to the instructions for a Coppermine CPU. When PC first powers up the screen says it recognises the CPU as a Pentium III but at only 566 Mhz. 12-04-2003 03:21:00

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile <HelicopterHobo> I am using the Coppermine settings for mine and latest Intel Bios posted on Intel WEB site. Will post Sandra specs later today. 12-04-2003 04:38:40

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) PeteC Profile SiSoftware Sandra Processor(s) Model : Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Speed : 847MHz Performance Rating : PR1016 (estimated) L2 On-board Cache : 256kB ECC synchronous ATC Mainboard and BIOS Bus(es) : ISA X-Bus PCI USB SMBus/i2c MP Support : No System BIOS : Intel Corp. MO81010A.86A.0010.P05.0010111247 System Chipset : Intel Corporation 82810 810 Chipset Memory Controller Hub Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 100MHz (100MHz data rate) Installed Memory : 255MB SDRAM Video System Monitor/Panel : Plug and Play Monitor Adapter : Intel(R) 82810 Graphics Controller Peripherals Serial/Parallel Port(s) : 1 COM / 0 LPT USB Controller/Hub : Intel(r) 82801AB USB Universal Host Controller USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub USB Controller/Hub : General Purpose USB Hub USB Controller/Hub : USB Composite Device Keyboard : Maxi Switch, Inc. #1102 Mouse : Maxi Switch, Inc. #1102 Mouse Human Interface : Maxi Switch, Inc. #1102 Human Interface : Maxi Switch, Inc. #1102 Mouse MultiMedia Device(s) Device : Game Port for Creative Device : BtCap, WDM Video Capture Device : BtCap, WDM Audio Capture Device : Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373) (WDM) Operating System(s) Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Ver 5.01.2600 Service Pack 1 Network Adapter(s) Networking Installed : Yes Adapter : Intel(R) 82559 Fast Ethernet LAN on Motherboard SiSoftware Sandra System Mainboard Manufacturer : OEM BIOS MP Support : No BIOS ID : 51-2300-000000-00101111-030199- On-board Devices Ensoniq ES1373 Audio Device : Unknown Intel GMCH AGP Graphics Controller : Unknown Intel 82559 Ethernet Device : Unknown System Memory Controller Location : Mainboard Error Correction Capability : None Number of Memory Slots : 2 BANK0 - DIMM1 : DIMM Synchronous DRAM 255MB/64 @ 100Mt/s System Chipset Model : Intel Corporation 82810 810 Chipset Memory Controller Hub Bus(es) : ISA X-Bus PCI USB SMBus/i2c Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 100MHz (100MHz data rate) Max FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 1x 100MHz / 1x 100MHz In Order Queue Depth : 4 req(s) Chipset Hub Interface Type : HubInterface Version : 1.00 No. Ports : 1 Width : 8-bit Full Duplex : Yes Multiplier : 1x Logical/Chipset Memory Banks Bank 0 Setting : 128MB SDRAM 7-1-1-1R 5-1-1-1W 2-2-2CL Bank 1 Setting : 128MB SDRAM 7-1-1-1R 5-1-1-1W 2-2-2CL Shared Memory : 1MB Refresh Rate : 15.60µs Power Down Mode : No Fixed Hole Present : No Memory Modules Memory Module 1 : Micron 16LSDT3264AG-133B1 52006CE2 256MB 16x(16Mx8) SDRAM PC133U-333-542 (CL3 upto 133MHz) (CL2 upto 100MHz) Environment Monitor 1 Model : AD ADM1025(A) SMB Version : 0.09 Mainboard Specific Support : No Temperature Sensor(s) Board Temperature : 30.0°C / 86.0°F CPU Temperature : 35.0°C / 95.0°F td Voltage Sensor(s) CPU Core Voltage : 1.73V Aux Voltage : 2.50V +3.3V Voltage : 3.20V +5V Voltage : 5.02V -12V Voltage : -11.67V PCI Bus(es) Version : 2.10 No Bridges : 1 PCI Bus 0 : 32-bit PCI (33MHz) PCI Bus 1 : 32-bit PCI (33MHz) Multiplier : 1/3x LPC Hub Controller 1 Model : Intel Corporation 82801AB 8xx Chipset LPC Interface Bridge ACPI PM Enabled : Yes Random Number Generator Enabled : No Random Number Generator Support : Yes LPC Legacy Controller Type : SMSC LPC v1 Version : 51.01 No Enabled Devices : 4 USB Controller 1 Model : Intel Corporation 82801AB 8xx Chipset USB Controller Version : 1.10 UHCI Interface : Yes Channels : 2 Speed : 48MHz Legacy Emulation Enabled : No System SMBus Controller 1 Model : Intel 801xx SMBus Version : 0.02 Speed : 16kHz Expansion Slot(s) J4B1 (1h) : PCI 32-bit 3.3V PME FullLength InUse (Intel Corporation 82810 810 Chipset Graphics Controller) Port Connector(s) J1H1 - USB1 : Keyboard Port - None / PS/2 J1H1 - USB2 : Mouse Port - None / PS/2 J7E1 - PRI IDE - None : None - ATA / None J8E1 - SEC IDE - None : None - ATA / None J1G1 - Video : Video Port - None / DB-15 pin female J1D1 - Audio Mic In : Audio Port - None / Mini-jack J1D2 - Audio Line Out : Audio Port - None / Mini-jack J8C1 - Control Panel - None : None - None / None J7J1 - Fan1 - None : None - None / None J2J1 - Fan2 - None : None - None / None J8F1 - Configuration Jumper - None : None - None / None Processor(s) Model : Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Co-Processor (FPU) : Built-in Speed : 848MHz Performance Rating : PR1018 (estimated) Type : Standard Packaging : FC-PPGA Socket370 Rated Speed/FSB : 1131MHz / 1x 133MHz Multiplier : 8.5x Generation : 6th (6x86) Model Information : P6C (Coppermine) Pentium III E 500-1.13G 1.3-1.75V Revision/Stepping : 8 / 6 (2) Stepping Mask : C0 Microcode : MU068608 Caches Internal Data Cache : 16kB parity synchronous write-back (4-way, 32 byte line size) Internal Code Cache : 16kB parity synchronous write-back (4-way, 32 byte line size) L2 On-board Cache : 256kB ECC synchronous ATC (8-way, 32 byte line size) L2 Cache Multiplier : 1/1x (equiv. 848MHz) Host Interface Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 100MHz (100MHz data rate) Mainboard Upgradeability Socket/Slot : J5H1 Upgrade Interface : ZIF Socket Supported Speed(s) : 850MHz (or more) Supported Voltage(s) : 1.6V Environment Monitor 1 Model : AD ADM1025(A) SMB Version : 0.09 Mainboard Specific Support : No Processor Sensors CPU Temperature : 37.0°C / 98.6°F td CPU Core Voltage : 1.74V Features Co-Processor (FPU) Built-in : Yes Virtual Mode Extensions : Yes Debugging Extension : Yes Page Size Extension : Yes Time Stamp Counter : Yes Model Specific Registers : Yes Physical Address Extension : Yes Machine Check Exception : Yes Compare & Exchange Instruction : Yes Local APIC Built-in : No Fast System Call : Yes Memory Type Range Registers : Yes Page Global Enable : Yes Machine Check Architecture : Yes Conditional Move Instruction : Yes Page Attribute Table : Yes 36-bit Page Size Extension : Yes Unique Serial Number : No Cache Line Flush Support : No Debug Trace & EMON Store : No ACPI Technology : No MMX Technology : Yes Fast Float Save & Restore : Yes SSE Technology : Yes SSE2 Technology : No Self Snoop : No Hyper-Threading Technology : No Auto Clock Control : No IA-64 Technology : No DAZ Support : No Advanced Settings L2 Cacheable Range : 64GB L2 Cache Grouping : 1 bank(s) L2 Cache Latency : 0 clock(s) Data Error Checking : Yes Low Power Mode : Yes Fast Strings : Yes In Order Queue Depth : 8 req(s) Machine Check Architecture Settings No. Reporting Banks : 5 bank(s) Variable Range MTRR Settings MTRR 0 : 00000000-0FFFFFFF (0MB-256MB) WB MTRR 1 : 0FF00000-0FFFFFFF (255MB-256MB) UC 12-04-2003 04:53:14

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) radarman Profile First, I have to stop checking this board. I *really* didn't need any more toys... That said, how well do these things handle cooling? I would imagine if they are designed around 300MHz Celerons, they may have trouble with more powerful processors. If they do OK, I wonder if the 1GHz PIII with the fixed 100MHz FSB would work in these? 12-04-2003 22:39:18

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) christopherboyce Profile Well, I haven't had much time to tinker with it the past few months, but I did just throw in a PIII 733mhz chip, though the machine/BIOS/OS only recognize it as a PIII 366mhz...which is fine for now, since it's just a much better chip than the original Celeron. 02-01-2004 17:28:51

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) TheBigDog Profile has anybody had any experience with 1G running @ 100Mhz FSB? (multiplier of 10) I'm contemplating if I should give it a try....150Mhz will make a big difference on windows performance i think... (vs 850 Mhz...) 02-27-2004 01:48:42

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) TheBigDog Profile I'm here to verify that Celeron 1Ghz works for the my Dot.Bob using the ABAZ bios. Here is the link to the CPU on CompGeeks. http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=CEL1000175-N ("Intel Celeron 1.0GHz Socket 370 FC-PGA CPU" Part #: CEL1000175-N) added by moderator Windows XP (SP1) installed without a hitch. Radarman's previous difficulties w/ the ABAZ bios and XP was not experienced by me. The installation was very smooth, no hang-ups. FanSpeed also works very nicely with this heatsink/fan from Compgeeks. http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SPA01B2-1 ("Spire HawkStream II Socket A/370 Heat Sink & Fan to 2800+" - Part #: SPA01B2-1) added by moderator I did the installation open case using an IDE CDROM. I'm still waiting for the slim DVDROM to show up to finish the mod. More holes will be drilled to the cover of the mobo case for ventilation. I'll keep you guys posted. 03-07-2004 03:20:09

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) ShaMana Profile Dont know if this is the right place but i am gonna ask some questions for help please. I have Intel Dot.Station from Spain but here in bulgaria i cant use it properly because whe have no such options here, then i deside do instal win or linux but i cant boot it. The model of the chipset is Intel 810 FW82810 (this is typed on the chip :) ) the CPU is Celeron 300 mhz the mother board is with 2 USB ports. I dont know what else can a tell you for it now. I wonder can i instal windows on this PC and how can i boot it or some. now when i start it it has a big blue globe with meny Intel signs. Pls help me or tell me can i do it or not. thank you. 04-08-2005 12:51:15

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) jtech Profile I was looking at some of the questions and problems about the CPU the bus speed.I have recently up graded my tiger.dot with a 750 Mhz Intel processor 100 Mhz bus speed FC-PGA (Flipped Chip Pin Grid Array),and after the moding it worked fine for me the first time after the upgrade.I have a retail boxed version of the Intel MoBo D810EMO,this was the MoBo that was used in most of the machines,and in my tiger.dot.I also have another Dot,a Dot Bob from Spain,this is the one with the globe.First the tiger.dot had been modified by Wintergreen Systems,and had KDE installed on it.I mentioned this before,but according to the retail MoBo the processor list goes from 366 Mhz-800 Mhz,you need to pick a processor in this range,and because of the age of the Dot most came out in 2000,I would not go to the very top of the list,it would be better to use a 600,650,or750 Mhz processor,also the boards requirements are a 100 Mhz bus speed,you cant use the 133 bus speed,you have to keep in mind,that the orginal processor was only 300 Mhz/66Mhz,bus speed,it was a SL36A.You can use a faster processor,but I wouldnt go to the top of the list,also for memory you can go to 256 MB the max,but no higher,theres only one memory slot,if you use 256MB,this will be double sided,I listed in an earlier thread,the brands of memory sticks Intel recommends.The memory stick also should work with the 100 Mhz bus speed also,and be a SPD DIMM,this means it should have serial presence detect this allows the chipset to accurately configure memory settings.If a non SPD is used the bios will try to correctly configure but performance and reliability may be impacted.I would also stay away from any of those CPUs that have Es after the number,you want to use those simple numbered processors,also memory is 168 pin 3.3 v dimm with gold plated contacts,non ecc 64 bit memory.Since the dots were made in 2000,that Intel MoBo I mentioned is no longer made,and neither are the processors.Also this MoBo was both retail and OEM,in comparing both boards,the Dot boards were slightly modified. They didnt have the mic in and line out connectors on them,the serial video connector on the back was inverted up,this plugged into the back of the monitor picture tube,if you disassemble the dots,be sure this cable is connected to the tube.Also the cd in connector is not on the dot board,another one near it is,and there are three more connectors near the side that are on the dots board,the are not on the retail board.Also the Dot bobs had a Seagate drive in them,and no transformer on the top of the cover,this I think was added when Wintergreen modified the units and they added a Samsung drive,they may have replaced those covers.Also I noticed that one of those side boards near the picture tube,has an extra power connector on it for that transformer,they may have replaced this board also.And the Dot Bobs phone modem was replaced,as to be used in the US,they needed a US modem,the Dot Bobs modem board will not work on the US phone system,this had been replaced,as my Tiger Dot phone modem looked different than the Dot.Bob one did,they were both Intel phone boards just a little different. 04-12-2005 03:06:34

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) jtech Profile As to the person in Bulgaria,this is the Dot.Bob you have.The bios need to first be unlocked,before any programming can be done.Wintergreen I think did this by using a special encription tool,but you can do this manually go to:www.distribucionpakito.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=25,you can also go to sucessful hacks on this site dated 12/03,AOL Spain did so you couldnt change the software on them,and also there was no cd-rom,as the up-grading was done by AOL Spain on-line,not by the customer.You may also have to change the phone modem board,as this one will not work in the US,but I dont know about Bulgaria.Once this is done then you can add more memory,a faster CPU/Fan, cd-rom drive,and a different operating system.I would use Windows ME.As Windows 98 was too old,it could be used,but additional software had to be added.Windows ME is better,as you have to keep in mind this unit came out in 2000,the time Windows ME was on the market,Windows XP is too new,this may not work as well.You can also add a Linux OS like Red Hat ect. 04-12-2005 03:30:50

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) jano Profile I didn´t read all the thread with care, but the solution for running coppermine cpuid 0683h processors is very simple: - cut a processor pin: AM2 You can read more on this link (in spanish, you must be a register user): http://www.vegazone.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1809 Enjoy this very, very simple mod. 04-14-2005 16:28:20

RE:FSB frequency, BIOS version and CPUs supported (modified 0 times) ShaMana Profile jtech thank you but when i read how to flash my bios i think we are too late for this. :( after hard fight with many programs i have formated the hard disk of the dot station and i don't have the OS to install it again. So all hopes are lost i think or i am to stupid to know other way :) 04-16-2005 16:36:56

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