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New MessageMailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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ok, this site seems to have fallen to a lack of interest... ? but, I see this available cheap at justDeal$.com ... my question, has any body bought one from Them, and, setup their Own isp, _easily?... ie: Earthlink? or, perhaps, even a free ISP? netzero??
I have a sister I would like to get this for.

thanks for any usefull feedback, sorry if I've missed the answers in the other topics, ... it Appears this is easily done, I would just like to confirm, or, if NOT, please, post, thanks again

08-03-2001 07:30:30

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) wildcard
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Yes. The white ones work with your own ISP.
08-03-2001 09:02:22

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) cgenman
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I've ordered two from Just Deal$, and I'll probably go back and order another (oddly, just for a Caller ID screen). Both mine and My dear Mum's are setup with earthlink (Yay ISP's that don't check location!). I've heard that it is possible with Netzero, and you should be able to find the information on the sniffer needed to capture login / password data from the program. However, expect to setup that one again once netzero kills the free ISP side. Interestingly your E-mail and ISP are completely separate. Dear Mum is using Yahoo's free mailbox, since Earthlink has been stingy bastards in giving out boxes.

need to know dial-up number: (1-714-439-0188)
e-mail address (your name@earthlink.net)
e-mail password
Pop3 server : pop.earthlink.net
SMTP server : smtp.earthlink.net (simple, eigh?)
ISP login again : (your name@earthlink.net)
password again:
Primary DNS : 207.217.77.82
and reply-to: (your name@earthlink.net)

Simple, eigh? Hope I saved you a trip to the earthlink service pages.

08-06-2001 23:47:35

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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thanks for the info cgenman!
that's Exactly what I had in mind... I have elnk, and, don't see that checking a bit of email from a different location should be too bad... not much different than checking from different clients on a network, :)
08-08-2001 11:00:18

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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ok, I'm adding my hookup with netzero, thanks to cgenman for earthlink notes...

get DialGuard, run it, to find yer Actual user iD and password http://www.stormloader.net/dialguard
get a netzero account, run dialguard, run netzero dialer, Find yer info....

get POP3 account with www.mailandnews.com
(this just Works... others may also.. I could have Sworn.. I had Yahoo workin yesterday... not now tho.. )

user name: your name
need to know dial-up number: http://my.netzero.net/s/numbers
e-mail address: your name@mailandnews.com
e-mail password: your password from mailandnews.com email
Pop3 server : mailandnews.com
SMTP server : smtp.netzero.net (simple, eigh?)
ISP login : (you get this from Dialguard)
password : (you get this from Dialguard)
Primary DNS : 208.184.153.30
and reply-to: your name@mailandnews.com

ok, hope this helps, for the $$, this is a cool way to get yer family/friends into email..

I _couldn't get my netzero email to work , yet..
I _thought I had yahoo working, .. but, not now... I will keep messin with it..

09-05-2001 09:20:56

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) yikesman
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In case people hadn't heard, NetZero said they were changing their free service plans so that free accounts only get 10 hours per month, then they try to switch you over to their Premium (pay) Service. I was using NetZero as my main ISP at home, so this sucks for me. Might be ok still for MailStation-type use, tho.

Also, I heard people using the NZ PPP workaround were getting their accts. blocked after heavy use, so if you do this, you might want to rotate the dialup numbers you use, and occasionally log on using the real NZ client once in a while.

09-06-2001 07:57:30

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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well, I pay for earthlink myself.. I'm not advocating abusing netzero, but, I'm trying to get this setup for my sister, and, checking email a couple times a day, will likely only keep her logged on a few minutes.. but, that seems alittle steep to pay 22 bucks for an expensive ISP...
regarding ads.. ad revenue is rediculas.. NObody reads ads.. and, Nobody clicks thru... just my $0.02
09-06-2001 20:53:52

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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ok, I figgered it out..
inorder to use yahoo as a POP3 account, you Must opt into their Yahoo! Delivers first...
then, setup as follows...

user name: your name
need to know dial-up number: http://my.netzero.net/s/numbers
e-mail address: your name@yahoo.com
e-mail password: your password from yahoo.com email
Pop3 server : pop.mail.yahoo.com
SMTP server : smtp.netzero.net (simple, eigh?)
ISP login : (you get this from Dialguard)
password : (you get this from Dialguard)
Primary DNS : 208.184.153.30
and reply-to: your name@yahoo.com

09-07-2001 07:22:06

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) yikesman
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Redwood - i'm interested in doing the same thing-setting up a mailstation for relatives for occasional use. Let us know how it works.
09-10-2001 11:53:19

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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yikesman,
they are working great, and, they are kinda fun..keyboard too small for my fat fingers is the Only problem really..
they Can't read mail from Hotmail... must be from a POP3 type account...it the only problem I have encountered... I mailed one of them off today, fully tested..
09-10-2001 14:51:27

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) cgenman
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My mother has been using the yahoo account for some time now. You can avoid the yahoo delivers ads for a pop account by setting the alternate e-mail address to an abandoned webmail address (I use stompoutspam@bigfoot.com, as bigfoot doesn't delete abandoned boxes) and then declare that as the primary address that yahoo is to send special offers to.

Black, unlocked mailstations are rare but available, and have different-shaped keys that feel bigger and easier to use for full-sized fingers. They are actually the same size, but they FEEL bigger.

BTW, good information on Netzero connections, redwood. We should compile this into some sort of faq.

09-19-2001 01:23:40

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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since we are talking about Helping our friends without computers... I found this, Voice Mail, you get one hour a month, FREE, access via telephone...or web... http://www.mailandnews.com
09-19-2001 17:11:04

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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wonder, will Cidco be dumping the Mivo 100, 200, 300 Series in the future? were these ever produced? or just a webpage dream? has anybody seen/gotten one of these newer units?
look forward to the Next gen being passed along to us, :)
09-23-2001 08:01:28

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) cgenman
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The Mivo 100 and I think the 200 are available at Target right now, and are identical to the mailstations and e-messages you can get for 10 bucks. These really aren't next-gen. Like so much hype, they're just repackaged junk to be more enticing. The 300 is an extension of a previous failed cidco project involving creating a home web terminal. The 300 has been vaporware for the past 2 years, and I suspect that Cidco will realize what a financial bomb that project would be.

Don't get me wrong, I want to see these ia projects continuing. I just want to see Cidco remove the 8k limit and add a terminal ap (not likely considering their dial and hang-up business model).

11-08-2001 18:50:02

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) cgenman
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Well hush my mouth. A quick look at Cidco's website reveals that they have released the 350, a cordless mailstation that does crude graphics, as well as a wireless 250. Very cool!
11-08-2001 20:51:12

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) iansu
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Okay...

Am I totally stupid or are my eyes deceiving me??? I'm reading here that some of you are able to change the mail settings in the MailStation... Why is it that when I go into settings the only thing it will allow me to do is change the so-called username, access # and reply to address?
I went into Details and I can see the pop, smtp, username and email address BUT I cannot change a thing... How is it that several of you have been able to go in and change the preferences? If someone can supply me with this information or the trick to it, I will be forever grateful.

Thanks,

Ian
pc_guy@mindspring.com

01-22-2002 11:10:12

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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well, mine are White.. and, I believe, the Black units, are different.. you might find a way around it, somewhere in this thread.. I never needed to do anything special.
Good Luck!
01-23-2002 19:10:51

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) wildcard
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Yes, Iansu, we have been changing the white version.

If you have a black version, try the Control, Shift T and poweron, as described elsewhere in these threads, and see if that gets you anywhere.

01-24-2002 22:15:18

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) samdog
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I have a black one and the key combination works for me.
01-28-2002 21:36:32

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) kevinvinv
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I've got a Mivo 250 (wireless) which is a SWEET unit but the shift-t trick doesn't work. Anyone have a clue how to crack this thing? I've tried many other combinations... nuttin does it.

I'd hate to have to try and sell this baby...

01-30-2002 18:53:34

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) Recap
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FWIW, maglobe.net is a good choice for ISP for Mailstation. It is designed for business travellers who need a little time now and then, from across the US and a good number of other countries. $30 will get you 30 hours of use in the US good for one year. That should be enough for Mailstation users who only check mail once or twice a day.

Unfortunately, I could not get their email to work Mailstation. But nettaxi.com (a free email service) does work, so you can use the combination maglobe/nettaxi for a low-cost commercial solution.

[I am not affiliated with either service in any way other than as a satisfied user]

02-06-2002 10:15:55

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) chrissv
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My Mother-in-law has a Mailstation with NetZero pop and smtp. Lately (within the last week or 2) the smtp part is failing. It sits waiting to connect to the smtp server for about 2 minutes, then gives a failure message.

I know the unit is connected OK, as it receives pop mail just fine.

I know that NetZero restricts access to their smtp server to people coming from within the NetZero system. This MailStation meets that criteria (dialing a NetZero access number, and logging in with a NetZero username and password).

Can anybody confirm that the NetZero access (sending mail) with a MailStation still works?

Thanks!

03-14-2002 21:31:27

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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well, the two I setup for friends are working... are you using Yahoo!mail? I believe They have changed things....

I have the email setup with www.hotpop.com

goodluck

03-15-2002 10:30:11

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) chrissv
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From what I can tell, every time I put in a host name for the pop3 and smtp servers, the mailstation can't resolve them. If I put in the IP #s, it works.

Can you post what you have in your "Extras" "Users" area? (i.e. pop3 server, smtp, etc.). I am mostly interested in what you have in the Primary DNS area.

I am positive the ISP login part is working (Netzero login), but I don't think DNS resolution works.

Here's what I have, which doesn't work:

E-mail Address: whatever@hotpop.com
E-Mail Password: *******
POP3 Server: pop.hotpop.com
SMTP Server: smtp.hotpop.com
ISP Account: 0:3.1.2:xxxxx@netzero.net
ISP Password: *****
Primary DNS: 64.40.40.51

03-20-2002 21:07:21

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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ok, from earlier in this thread...

user name: your name
need to know dial-up number: http://my.netzero.net/s/numbers
e-mail address: your name@mailandnews.com
e-mail password: your password from mailandnews.com email
Pop3 server : mailandnews.com
SMTP server : smtp.netzero.net (simple, eigh?)
ISP login : (you get this from Dialguard)
password : (you get this from Dialguard)
Primary DNS : 208.184.153.30
and reply-to: your name@mailandnews.com

now, thats with, mailandnews.com .. they, are haveing financial problems...

yahoo! emailed today, they will begin charging for POP3 accounts, so I think,

so, I will setup an account with pop.hotpop.com it should work, if I have a problem, I'll post it...

03-21-2002 08:18:46

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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ok, here is a thread regarding yahoo charging, and alternatives.. I'm reading them now..
ps, haven't connected with hotpop yet.. so, I will try others as well .. I guess I _could use netzero's email as well :)

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=18&threadid=76855

03-21-2002 08:36:09

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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ok, I'm having alittle trouble getting this going.. but, I'll keep workin on it.. if anybody else gets another POP3 account working, please post, thanks...
03-21-2002 19:55:49

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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use with www.mailandnews.com
user name: your name
need to know dial-up number: http://my.netzero.net/s/numbers
e-mail address: your name@mailandnews.com
e-mail password: your password from mailandnews.com email
Pop3 server : mailandnews.com
SMTP server : smtp.netzero.net (simple, eigh?)
ISP login : (you get this from Dialguard)
password : (you get this from Dialguard)
Primary DNS : 208.184.153.30
and reply-to: your name@mailandnews.com

use with www.MyRealBox.com
user name: your name
need to know dial-up number: http://my.netzero.net/s/numbers
e-mail address: your name@myrealbox.com
e-mail password: your password from myrealbox.com
Pop3 server : pop.myrealbox.com
SMTP server : smtp.netzero.net (simple, eigh?)
ISP login : (you get this from Dialguard)
password : (you get this from Dialguard)
Primary DNS : 208.184.153.30
and reply-to: your name@myrealbox.com

most any POP3 online account...
user name: your name
need to know dial-up number: http://my.netzero.net/s/numbers <== LEAVE IT
e-mail address: your name@ EMAIL
e-mail password: your password from EMAIL
Pop3 server : THIS CHANGES DEPENDING ON EMAIL
SMTP server : smtp.netzero.net (simple, eigh?) <== LEAVE IT
ISP login : (you get this from Dialguard) <== LEAVE IT
password : (you get this from Dialguard) <== LEAVE IT
Primary DNS : 208.184.153.30 <== LEAVE IT
and reply-to: your name@ EMAIL

OK, I hope I typed all this in right, :) that was my Mistake on the Mailstation.. Big fingers.. small keys... :)

03-22-2002 12:28:06

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) LINYSue
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I have an emessage machine that I have been trying to set up with my account at peoplepc. However, when I try to sign on I get an "email error (password)" message. I've been reading here about using dial guard to get your ISP login and password. I downloaded version 2.2.5, but it's a mystery to me where to get the information. I would try and use netzero if I could figure out the dial guard. All I see are timers and dates. Any help in amateur language would be much appreciated.
03-22-2002 17:43:44

New MessageAccess-4-free (modified 0 times) cgenman
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I've never used dialguard, so hopefully someone more knowledgeable can chime in. However, I have heard that "dial guard," currently 2.2.5 was created by Jason Leow in 1999 in order to limit the amount of time you can spend online. "Dialguard" (no space) was made by stormloader/Cory Greenberg in 2000 to moniter who your computer calls and with what information. This is the one you want.

It can be found here.
http://www.stormloader.com/dialguard/

You should also be able to find your dialup information, albeit with a little more effort, by creating a log file.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q140791 tells you how to do such.

Does this help or am I completely nuts?


But the reason I wrote today: Has anyone else tried access-4-free? They appear to be a legit company offering 10 hours free access (without a proprietary dialer) per month in the hopes that people will go over and be charged 10$ for unlimited use. There is also a 5 dollar sign up fee. Does anyone have any good / bad experiences using them? I'm planning on dropping earthlink soon, so any information would be helpful.

03-24-2002 08:12:43

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) LINYSue
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Thanks cgenman....I did have the wrong "dialguard". After downloading the correct one I have been able to set it up using netzero (very excited). Still not able to get it working with my own ISP though. I'll keep working on it. :)
03-24-2002 14:35:14

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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cgenman, thanks for the access tip.. looks like its Worth the $5 just to try... so, IF anybody has any negitives/or positives, let us know...

_befor you giveup yer earthlink, call, talk to customer retention dept,, you _may have to quit.. and restart.. but, you Should be able to get TWO free months.. mention code:400064528 I've been getting that, and free digital cameras, web cams, sister got a printer and scanner... I could use a toaster.... :)
just don't use their email, then, if you leave, you won't have to change that...

LINYSue... _some ISP's are Fussy... since you have it working...stick with what works? :) I think.. Mindspring? or Prodgy? somewhere, Someone mentioned.. having problems... prolly NO Way in the world AOL would work, :)

if you try access4free, please, let us know..
I use earthlink, and netzero...

ebay business opportunity? setup a mailstation, with access4free, sell it as a Real email station, FREE of monthly access... ?? now, _That, would be worth $100 to alot of people methinks...

03-25-2002 08:17:57

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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on further looking at access4free, I don't see them listing DNS #'s ... so, if somebody Smart, knows how to run those programs to find that info, it would be Needed... this might be more work than netzero???

for the mailstation, we need,
phone #, thats simple
user id, ok
password, ok
DNS .... they set it automaticly.. not sure the mailstation is UP to this?? "Server assigned name server addresses"

ok, now, Get out there, and GET this DNS #...hehe I think I _used to know how to do that? ping them??? something Simple?

03-25-2002 08:24:14

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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ok, I just found this...
Service Provider

Enter the following for the DNS hosts :

Primary DNS:
12.155.212.1

Secondary DNS:
12.155.208.3

that should do it! good luck!

03-25-2002 08:32:16

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 1 times) guerilla
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A reminder:

A Mivo 250 uses Fcn-Shift-SIZE!!! Not T!!!

Your friendly EARTHLINK MAILSTATION SUPPORT TEAM!!!!!!

Cheers,
Guerilla
(X-Earthlink Employee)

08-11-2002 01:44:35

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) deutschman
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hi,
does anybody know the setup key for a mailstaion 150 with firmware 4.03 ?
and what means XTND:on ?
this version has only one account, my mailstation 100 has 5 of them. can it be extended ?

Peter

09-12-2002 12:29:06

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) kevinvinv
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I have a Mivo with 2.22Y firmware. I can get it to allow me to enter any user info and phone number but the mail servers are locked at mail.mymailstation.com.

Anyone know how to get around this? Fcn-Shift-T is not the trick for this level of firmware I guess.

Any thoughts Guerilla?

09-23-2002 21:57:58

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) hacker_420_69
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I laugh at all you people who think you actually know anything about mailstation. Lol, you see, I am a Mailstation Tech for Earthlink and I will just say one thing, NO. All you think you can use another ISP but you can't, I would know. It is a fact that there is also no proven way by any hacker our there that it can even receive a virus. But if you would like go ahead and keep trying.Though remember that in the end you will still have gotten nowhere!
10-14-2002 21:27:12

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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hummmm....

hacker? cough, cough...
"All you think you can use another ISP but you can't, I would know. It is a fact that there is also no proven way by any hacker .... "

well, lets see, I was able to use it JUST as I wanted, for over a year now, so, I'd say you are Exactly the kind of "support" we often get from companies... oh well, keep saying it, perhaps you will discourage someone..
BTW, the mailstation I bought for a buck, still works... :)

really, lets don't get into a pissing contest here.. how about you post " it can't be done " somewhere Else.. ?

10-15-2002 08:52:45

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) NuLL_LiNk
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This is a Reply to hacker_420_69. I read your comment about not being able to hack the Mailstation. I do know for a fact that you can hack the mailstation, and you are so full of crap. If you were a real tech you would know its possable.
01-04-2003 05:09:13

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) ande
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Well today I got fooled into the misleading deal OfficeMax has this week ( http://images.officemax.com/images/slot_images/0112L_Pg08_4C01.jpg )
Supposed to be $100 - $50 OM MIR - $50 Earthlink MIR = $0 After Rebates, well they neglected to post anywhere that you HAVE to sign up for service for SIX months to get the $50 Earthlink MIR.
I called the store manager and she said she would return it for me even though I sent out the OfficeMax rebate with the UPC, so she will return it for 50$ instead of the $100 I paid, but I'll still get the $50 OfficeMax MIR, so all is not lost.

On to my question hehe ...

the unit is a MailStation 150 XTND: On V4.05D
Here is a screenshot from the Extras > Settings, and Extras > Settings > Details Screens.
http://edison.seattlecentral.org/~afegan01/mailstation.jpg
I cant go below the line to change any of the details. (email addy, email pass, pop3 server, smtp server, isp acct, isp pass, primary dns)
So far none of the tricks worked, but some mentioned a CTRL key which this model does not have.

Anyone have any ideas? Or should I just return it now that I have a chance?

Ande

AIM: daftande

01-13-2003 22:11:36

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) HiddenPaw
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If anyone has any idea of why the MS would dial up, log on, go to the mail server and then constantly tell you "mail server is not available or busy"...please post. I have spent 4 days trying all combinations of passwords, logins and ip addresses/dns addresses with no success. The ISP support people are baffled too because the mail servers work with my pc and the password is not encrypted. HELP! (before I send this thing to ebay)grrrr!

I have one of the white mailstations. I have been able to reset the dialup info by holding down the Shift + FN + T keys as I turn the machine on. This is documented in other posts on this site. Some of the units use the shift + fn + size keys. You have to hold all of them down as you turn the machine on. The machine then shows the Diagnostic Main Menu (mine says version 2.54)..... at this point you must select the #3 numeric key to do the F/A tester routine. The tester menu comes up and you select the 6 option using the #6 numberic key.
The unit goes into flash testing mode. It takes a bit to do this so be patient. When the flash test is finished, it returns to the Tester menu. Use the 'back' key and when the Diag Main menu comes up, use the Q key to quit. Another menu will come up. This is the Reset System Data Menu. Downarrow to the 'clear all data' and hit the 'enter' key. Now it tells you to create a new user account. Hit 'enter' again. Here's your New User Menu. You can now enter all your info in all the fields.

You need to have all this information available at the time you are ready to input it, especially your mail server names and the Primary DNS numbers. You get these from your internet service provider (ISP)

you need all the info shown on the screen. After you save it, you can always change the username and dialup number without all the other operations since they will not be locked out. Be careful when you enter the info because if you make a mistake, you get to go thru the whole setup above all over.

01-13-2003 23:58:42

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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hiddenpaw ... not sure what isp and popmail you are using... I just re-read a few of my Old posts.. things changed... yahoo, is NOT one to try with popmail.. and, hotmail NEVER worked for me...
its True.. you can try, and try... but, Until you get the Right combo.. it won't work.. yer prolly Close... maybe try the hotpop I mentioned previously?? I use www.myrealbox.com for my popmail, it works fine...

ande, I think the Fn key (function key) is the control key.. good luck... usually, ebay these are pretty cheap...

01-14-2003 08:52:25

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) dan4l
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HiddenPaw check my post on the Mailstation Pop extensions thread...
Here's a qoute:
If the mailstation gets -ERR for XTND Device it stops, eventually disconnecting and displays 'Email service is not responding'

I had a locked mailstation, I was trying to get to work with 1 of my pc's which I envisioned using to 'relay mail' to the mailstation... Just a matter of configuring the nameserver to work around the lock really... Anyway I lnoticed the mailstation would work with 1pop server and another one. I delved into it and found it was using POP extensions that I could not find documented anywhere else. Anyway some pop servers answer +OK anyway to XTND, some don't. If you have telnet you can probably talk straight to the pop server and work out if that is what it is. Of course that doesn't fix it, but at least you know.

01-15-2003 13:13:53

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) rodfarthing
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Great news! I was able to configure a Mailstation (black) original model to work with Access-4-Free, a free (10hrs month) ISP!
FN+SHIFT+T+POWER
OPTION 3
Menu Option 6
Back Key
Q to quit
Reset System data
Clear All Data
Set Up New User
user name
password
dialup numbers
primary dns: 12.155.212.1
email address:***@access-4-free.com
email password:*****
incoming mail server: mail.access-4-free.com
outgoing server: smtp.access-4-free.com
ISP Login: user name (your username NOT email address!)
ISP Password: ******
save
Access your mail!!!!!
02-04-2003 18:04:21

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) allyourbase
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Does anyone out there know of a way to "watch" the ppp connection from the mailstation to the provider?

I want to see if I can capture whats going on to try and determine the problem.

I am getting the server busy message as well, i have tried accounts from all over. juno and netzero seem to be one in the same now. their install as well as all the dialup numbers are the same.

thanks

05-15-2003 04:03:37

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) allyourbase
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Here are my current settings:
I am using rodfarthings method of quickly getting the mailstation reset and asking for all the config info, thanks rod! it works like a champ.

username: isp_username [just the username of the dialup account at netzero]
dial-up no: 5845599 [local number in my area]
email address: mail_username@myrealbox.com [full email address from myrealbox.com]
email password: ******* [password of the myrealbox.com account]
pop3 server: pop3.myrealbox.com [pop3 server for myrealbox.com]
smtp server: smtp.myrealbox.com [smtp server for myrealbox.com]
isp account: NhDg5Lt5:4.0a5:isp_username@netzero.net [full name from dial guard]
isp password 0Hn,ghj3 [full password from dial guard]
primary DNS: 208.184.153.30 [dns from this list]
reply-to: mail_username@myrealbox.com [full email from myrealbox.com again]
it
the mailstation seems to connect and then goes to get mail or send mail and it still gets that the server is not responding/busy, can anyone see any glaring errors in my setups?

thanks

05-15-2003 07:25:30

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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allyourbase: here are the my settings from earlier in this thread

user name: your name
need to know dial-up number: http://my.netzero.net/s/numbers
e-mail address: your name@mailandnews.com
e-mail password: your password from mailandnews.com email
Pop3 server : mailandnews.com
SMTP server : smtp.netzero.net (simple, eigh?)
ISP login : (you get this from Dialguard)
password : (you get this from Dialguard)
Primary DNS : 208.184.153.30
and reply-to: your name@mailandnews.com

LOOKS like, your Pop3 entry is different than mine.. ??? try that?
good luck!

05-16-2003 07:30:30

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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woops, and, perhaps this one?

use with www.MyRealBox.com
user name: your name
need to know dial-up number: http://my.netzero.net/s/numbers
e-mail address: your name@myrealbox.com
e-mail password: your password from myrealbox.com
Pop3 server : pop.myrealbox.com
SMTP server : smtp.netzero.net (simple, eigh?)
ISP login : (you get this from Dialguard)
password : (you get this from Dialguard)
Primary DNS : 208.184.153.30
and reply-to: your name@myrealbox.com

note the Pop3 entry, just pop.myrealbox.com ... hope this helps!

05-16-2003 07:36:56

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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allyourbase:
one Other thing, myrealbox has been timeing out Alot lately on my PC .. have you setup email on yer pc, to send/receive, Just to test it? could be, Their problem, not yours..
its getting Just about annoying enough, that I'm thinking of changing, but, they Do say on their site, its just an experiment or something such... its been good, till lately...
perhaps, try Another email account, see it that fixes yer problem! good luck
05-16-2003 07:59:01

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) allyourbase
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redwood,

thanks for getting back to me, should i assume that these settings:
=========================
user name: your name
need to know dial-up number: http://my.netzero.net/s/numbers
e-mail address: your name@mailandnews.com
e-mail password: your password from mailandnews.com email
Pop3 server : mailandnews.com
SMTP server : smtp.netzero.net (simple, eigh?)
ISP login : (you get this from Dialguard)
password : (you get this from Dialguard)
Primary DNS : 208.184.153.30
and reply-to: your name@mailandnews.com

LOOKS like, your Pop3 entry is different than mine.. ??? try that?
good luck!
================================================

are for netzero accounts? i will try them again, i have been trying so many things that i am losing track now.
i have setup accounts for netzero, juno, myrealbox, and used my work as well.

as for myrealbox i checked their web page faq and they show the pop3 host as follows:

=====================================================
Q: What are the POP, IMAP and SMTP server addresses?
A:POP - pop3.myrealbox.com
IMAP - imap.myrealbox.com
SMTP - smtp.myrealbox.com
===============================

i tried telneting to port 110 of pop.myrealbox.com and get no answer, telnetting to port 110 of pop3.myrealbox.com with my account info works fine.

i have been trying to get logging turned up on a MS dialup ras server that i administer at work and am trying connecting to that but even with the MS logging on max i am not getting much info.

may just give my dad an audrey i have, as that may be simpler in the end, but i won't give up just yet!

thanks for all the help

allyourbase

are belong to us

05-16-2003 08:35:02

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) allyourbase
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redwood,
looks like mailandnews.com is no longer taking new users, their site states that sometime after feb 15 they will move to a fee based service of either $20 or $25 per year for at least mail.

i know this may seem like a stupid statement but so i'm sure i understand the concept i'll make it anyway

the idea is to get an account [free or otherwise] that allows for ppp access. the key entries for this piece of the puzzle are:

need to know dial-up number: http://my.netzero.net/s/numbers
ISP login : (you get this from Dialguard)
password : (you get this from Dialguard)
Primary DNS : 208.184.153.30

once connected at the ppp level you now can make a network connection to pretty much any send/receive mail service you want.
here you have used mailandnews.com and i have tried myrealbox.com. these connections are pop3 and smtp based, all that is needed is the account with username and password for pop3 and just the account name for sending the mail as they won't allow realying of other accounts:

e-mail address: your name@mailandnews.com
e-mail password: your password from mailandnews.com email
Pop3 server : mailandnews.com
reply-to: your name@mailandnews.com


now here it gets a little foggy, if you have created a mailandnews or myrealbox account why are we still pointing to smtp.netzero.net for sending mail? also if it does not have the same username as the myrealbox or mailandnews account i suspect it will fail due to relaying issues.

SMTP server : smtp.netzero.net (simple, eigh?) {{maybe this would be smtp.mailandnews.com}}

and finally this is just a pretty name used by the mailstation:

user name: your name


i have not had much time to dedicate this weekend to the problem, but will be back at it tonight.

thanks again

allyourbase

05-19-2003 10:40:17

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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sorry allyourbase, I dug out my mailstation, and, I'm having problems Also...

I set these up for friends, and my sister, but, I Kept one, just to work on the settings... but, I don't really use it daily.. and, since my sister got a laptop, she doesn't use hers, and, I kinda let this go..
I've got all of my old faded notes.. and, the posts on here, were to keep track of what Worked...
one other email that used to work with this was hotpop.com , free, pop3 account...
so, I'll work on this when I can, perhaps somebody else has settings that are still working? please post...
just be sure, 2 things, your dialup works, on another computer, and, also, your email works... Then, get the combo working on the mailstaation... good luck!

05-20-2003 16:56:36

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) allyourbase
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thanks for all the help redwood,

to answer your question, yes the dialup to netzero works fine on a laptop. and the mail to myrealbox works fine once connected. i tested it by using their web interface as well as telneting to the pop3 port and logging in manually. this was all from the notebook dialed into netzero. netzero mail works as well, but i think that is only available via http.

i just checked and hotpop still offers free access so i will set one up with them as well.

thanks again,

allyourbase

05-21-2003 06:10:33

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) allyourbase
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UPDATE:

pop3 working:

Redwood,
using a new hotpop.com account i am now able to receive mail via pop3, unfortunatly the sending is not so easy with hotpop.

hotpop requires that you authenticate to send via smtp, so you have to run a get mail first then for the next 30 minutes you are supposed to be able to send via smtp. i could live with that and it seems to work when testing via telnet, but it does not seem to work with the mailstation. Here is the point made in the hotpop.com FAQ:

====================================================================

Q:I receive an error that says "550 - Relaying Denied, must authenticate with POP first." How do I fix this?

A:* HotPOP's mail servers require that you log into the POP server before sending mail through SMTP. This basically means that you have to check your mail before you send it. Once you check your mail you have approximately 30 minutes to send. After this you will have to log in again. The easiest way to do this is to set your client to check mail when you start the program, and then check every 20-25 minutes. This will always keep a window open for you to send mail.

===========================================================================

Here is a test via telnet:
===========================

:~> telnet pop.hotpop.com 110
Trying 204.57.55.33...
Connected to pop.hotpop.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK
user valid_user@hotpop.com
+OK
pass mypassword
+OK
list
+OK
1 2472
2 786
.
quit
+OK
Connection closed by foreign host.

:~> telnet smtp.hotpop.com 25
Trying 204.57.55.68...
Connected to smtp.hotpop.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 smtp-2.hotpop.com ESMTP Postfix
helo netzero.net
250 smtp-2.hotpop.com
mail from: <valid_user@hotpop.com>
250 Ok
rcpt to: <another_valid_user@somewhere.com>
250 Ok
data
354 End data with <CR><LF>.<CR><LF>
this is a test.
test
test
test
.
250 Ok: queued as AC2251800C9
quit
221 Bye
Connection closed by foreign host.
==========================================

So that shows that the FAQ is correct, and if you authenticate via pop3 first you can then send as a hotpop.com user.

problem is the mailstation does not seem to work.

if i hit the "Get E-Mail" button the mailstation should do a pop3 get, and then the smtp send should work, what i get is the standard "The e-mail service is busy or unavailable please try again later" so it must be doing send first then receive second.

maybe there are some other free pop3/smtp accounts out there that do not require the auth but due to spammers i think they may be few and far between.

Any other ideas?

allyourbase

05-23-2003 09:56:48

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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allyourbase,
did you set your smtp to, netzero? like in my notes above? lookin at my notes here, they're kinda a mess, but, hotpop was what I set my sisters up on , cuz it worked easiest...
I don't remember having to receive first, but, I think it can easily be done...
yer Close... don't dispare... gawd, I remember Bangin my head against the wall over those settings... in the end, I won! :) good luck!
05-24-2003 12:19:46

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) allyourbase
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thanks redwood,

it's working now, i had this mental block against using the netzero smtp server when i was trying to connect to hotpop or myrealbox smtp server. must be that netzero is allowing relaying off thier servers as long as you connect via a netzero account. seems a bit dangerous to me leaving them open to spammers, but what the hell if they are going to allow it we can use it. hopefully they won't change their minds down the road.

thanks again for all the help, and sorry i was being stubborn about it.

allyourbase

are belong to us

05-25-2003 09:24:32

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) redwood
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glad it worked.. yeah, I'm not smart enough to understand How and Why this stuff works.. I just keep beating my head against the wall, till it stops hurtin, :)
I've Tried to talk my kids into using them in classes, to take notes, etc.. Must safer than losing an expensive laptop.. then, just email yerself the notes.. but, I guess these are Not cool enough.. oh well... pencil and paper are cool?
and, if you find any other free pop3 email sites worth using, perhaps post here, thanks
05-25-2003 09:58:29

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) allyourbase
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will do,
thanks again
ayb
05-26-2003 07:45:15

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 1 times) drider
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What are your druthers -- black or white units?

What's the (big) diff?

Assuming I'd be using something like /http://access-4-free.com/

And where can I get one that does graphics?

Thanks for the coming info and the above too.

06-03-2003 09:56:25

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) aFunBee
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I have both. I like the keyboard on the black one versus the white one. Easier to type.
06-03-2003 23:54:33

New MessageRE:Mailstation and your own ISP (modified 0 times) picha69
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I have the black one and I JUST CANNOT get it working. The POP and SMTP remain there, no matter what. I tried the combination etc., but with no much success. I get thru the tests, then Q and then clear all data or no clear.... but I still have the stupid pop and smtp preloaded. PLEASE HELLLLLLLp.

THanks

My firmware is 2.53YR

06-18-2003 19:21:19

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