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Another Network Computer -- IBM for $79 (modified 0 times) clicket Profile I've been wondering about these IBM Network Stations as I've seen their prices coming down.. I don't know what's on the motherboard, but I'm willing to bet there is some sort of IDE interface. If so, this PowerPC processor might be capable of running a all sorts of PowerPC-specific software.. This could mean running a PPC Linux distro like Yellow Dog Linux on one partition and using Sheepshaver to run MacOS apps from a MacOS partition on the drive. http://www.egghead.com/category/inv/00000331/03020742.htm The possibilities seem to abound if IBM didn't strip this thing down.. Even if they did, I wonder if it's worth the hack to add hardware (I can't imagine what right now) to expand the possibilities of this box.. 06-21-2000 20:36:33

RE:Another Network Computer -- IBM for $79 (modified 0 times) clicket Profile Sorry if this is off-topic.. I so nowhere else where it might be more relevant. C0deman, I think a general posting area for machines like this might be a good thing. 06-21-2000 20:37:43

RE:Another Network Computer -- IBM for $79 (modified 0 times) nullbert here's some stuff I got from IBM's site on it: http://www.can.ibm.com/helpware/nws100.html seems to be a ppc @ 33MHz. 1 PCMCIA, 2 std. simms (FPM/EDO). this page illustrates the product's inception (10/96) and withdraw date (10/99) http://www-1.ibm.com/servlet/support/manager?rt=0&rs=0&org=psg&doc=59FABC0F711F649C852568F7006B1E64 Overall looks cool but seems pretty weak... they really should have discontinued it long ago. I think it should be half this price... 06-22-2000 07:13:09

RE:Another Network Computer -- IBM for $79 (modified 0 times) clicket Profile The concept I have in mind is one of a power trip.. I imagine having a cheap Macintosh solution that's running a distro of Linux that's able to launch any application made for that platform (via Linux installation <http://www.yellowdoglinux.com > or Sheepshaver <http://www.sheepshaver.com >).. Now imagine that you actually use an Athlon or other x86 workstation with the specs stacked.. 800MHz CPU, 256MB RAM, 30GB HDD.. And you decide that you want to run some dinky application that was made only for Machintosh.. Well, you just happened to have a little wonder hooked up to your LAN.. You're already in Linux on your hot x86 workstation and you launch a remote X-Window or VNC session to the Mac-clone.. In this window you can do anything on the Macintosh platform--MacOS or Linux. Now, imagine if you will, that you're a programmer.. And you want to be able to program BeOS applications for x86 _and_ PPC.. What a solution this would be.. Same scenario, but wonderfully more productive results.. If I had a source for a cheap, old Mac that was System 8 or 9-capable, I might go with that, but since I don't I wonder if this sub-$100 solution might be viable. Anyone else have opinions? Anyone else have Mac-LAN-Linux solutions? 06-22-2000 13:14:11

RE:Another Network Computer -- IBM for $79 (modified 0 times) clicket Profile Hmm.. Interesting.. I hadn't visited http://www.sheepshaver.com in a while.. They've apparently decided to focus on the BeOS for PPC as their primary OS platform now instead of Linux. 06-22-2000 13:21:10

RE:Another Network Computer -- IBM for $79 (modified 0 times) NobodySpecial This version of the Network Station (the 100) will not run Linux. IBM is working on Linux for the 2200 and 2800, but not this older one. It is possible (though not simple) to set the 100 up to boot IBM's client software off of a Linux server. This allows the NS to work as an X station. Some think it might be possible to boot NetBSD on the 100, but I don't know - info on this is hard to come by. See http://techconnect.ease.lsoft.com/SCRIPTS/WA-TECHCONNECT.EXE?A2=ind0003d&L=netvista_thin_client_forum&F=&S=&P=828 (and other messages in the same forum) and http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Netstation.html 06-22-2000 16:38:21

RE:Another Network Computer -- IBM for $79 (modified 0 times) R+A+I+D+E+R http://www.geekpitlabs.com/projects/netstation/ was previously posted in another area on this board weeks ago about the IBM Netstation and using Linux on it. I'm not Linux proficient, so you'll have to take a look for yourselves to see if there's anything there of use. BTW, I'm posting this from my new Scovery 211 that arrived today. I don't know Linux, but I was able to play around and figure out how to get it to connect to the 'Net via my Linksys router. I haven't yet figured out how to make it be seen by my 2 Win98 machines here, but maybe I'll take a stab at it later sometime before I slap a hard drive into the Scovery with Win 98 on it. From what I've seen so far in the last hour or two, I should be able to keep the SanDisk with Linux on it and also be able to boot Win 98 from the hard drive. Question: will the Linux version currently on the SanDisk be able to see FAT32 partitions? Hope so, since it can't hurt to keep the Linux capability available for me to learn a little about it and be able to see files on the hard drive. If necessary, I'll make a small partition on the drive just for Linux files, but I'd rather be able to have joint use of files on one partition for both OS's if possible. 06-22-2000 18:19:26

RE:Another Network Computer -- IBM for $79 (modified 0 times) El Barto I've never networked Windows and Linux boxes together but Samba is what you need to do that. As far as seeing FAT32 partitions in Linux, yes, as long as the kernel supports it. What is the kernel? It's the guts of the OS, the basis...good name for it, it can be related to a kernel of popcorn...I don't know if the Scovery has the kernel sources on it...I really doubt it. Because that's what you'd need to compile if the current kernel does not support viewing FAT32 partitions. But if it's a network computer, and not all networks are strictly Linux, I think it's safe to assume the kernel allows viewing FAT32 partitions, in which case you'd only have to mount them within Linux. What is mounting? Well, Linux does not have drive letters, like C: and D: as DOS and Windows does. They are always referred to by their device name...for example, the first harddrive in your system would be /dev/hda, the first partition is /dev/hda1, and so on. So you have to MOUNT it to be able to read it. Drives should be mounted in the /mnt directory...so like, /mnt/win98 could point to /dev/hda1, first partition of the first harddrive where Win98 is installed on. Make sense? Consider this Linux Lesson 1. 06-22-2000 20:08:55

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