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W2K aka Windows 2000 and how to get an I-Opener running it??
Discussion of W2K / Windows 2000 and how to get an I-Opener running it.

New MessageW2K aka Windows 2000 and how to get an I-Opener running it?? (modified 0 times) justme
Hi,
Ok, I prefer W2K ( Windows 2000 for those who may search this later, but W2k from hereon) to W98 and Linux (please don't shoot me. I am attempting to setup with NTFS on a single partition, W2k professional.

Now, I have flashed my BIOS per the V3 flash instructions and can boot DOS on my PC, however am having trouble with W2k ... I keep getting a boot device failure.

I am booting as the master off the I-Opener, the W2k system selection comes up, and W2k starts to load... however after a few seconds I get a stop... unavailable boot device... some noteice to check for a virus...

My system is a V3 I-Opener, with the modified flash per the V3 flash thread, questions I have...

1) Has anyone gotten Windows 2000 to run, my processor is an IDE WinChip 200

2) Has anyone gotten TWO IDE devices to work with the I-Opener, I'd dearly love to have a CD ROM running internally, has anone pulled this off?

3) The SANDISK worries me, any way to disable it, could it be interfering with my boot?

Thanks

06-05-2000 01:27:18

New MessageRE:W2K aka Windows 2000 and how to get an I-Opener running it?? (modified 0 times) justme
Hi,
This is mostly a duplicate post to one I put up on technical moderated, I believe the SanDisk controller may be an issue for W2k and am trying to investigate deactivation of the controller. A poster named therealdj has indicated a procedure which may allow deactivation, and thus assist in stable W2k installation. Suggestions and constructive advice are welcome.

I removed the large heatsink and found the SanDisk controller (20-99-0002401) chip parallel to my IDE cable (which on thinking about it made much sense, I almost wish I had cut away a slightly larger area of the heatsink to expose this without removal of the entire heatsink). I re-read therealdj's post regarding deactivation of the SanDisk, and believe the CE pins are located parallel to the IDE connector on the SanDisk controller (sort of near the middle of the row of pins closest to the connector, I'd have to count carefully, but believe I can locate CE pin 37 & 39). Ok, now having located the pins (someone do confirm or redirect me) it appears therealdj understands something he refers to as "lifting CE pins" ... well OK, I'm game, lets say I count correctly and locate Pin CE 37, can someone explain how it is "lifted". Specifically, looking at the device (the SanDisk controller) it is not intuitively obvious to me how it's connected to the motherboard, and how the pins connect between the chip and the motherboard (for example is the controller just sitting on the board held on by pressure from the pins? Are the pins themselves soldered or some form of pressure connection). In describing "lifting" please don't forget to describe which tool was used, and any cautions about problems (especially non-obvious problems) which may occur as a result of "lifting".

therealdj's post appears to indicate "lifting" may be reversable (which appears nicer than say cutting, removing, or desoldering). Thus some step by step guidance (and some background as to how this device is connected) would be greatly appreciated. Understanding how it's attached, lifted and perhaps even some discussion of how it could be reset, would also be appreciated.

Also as a final request, if CE Pin 37 & 39 are removed, will this permit the addition of a 2nd IDE device (such as a CD ROM or even better a CD ROM changer, and does anyone know of an inexpensive one for an I-Opener (and where to order it from?).

Thanks

06-05-2000 02:54:05

New MessageRE:W2K aka Windows 2000 and how to get an I-Opener running it?? (modified 0 times) vailr
Another question in need of answer, is if disabling the Sandisk will allow for UDMA-33 HD access, whether Win2k or Win98. The current bios may not support this, even though the Via controller chip does support. Win2k would benefit from more memory, such as a 64 or 128 MB Sodimm upgrade. The Cyberblade AGP video has no onboard memory, relying on 2 MB shared system memory.
06-05-2000 09:14:24

New MessageRE:W2K aka Windows 2000 and how to get an I-Opener running it?? (modified 0 times) justme
Hi,
Hehe, I'd like to find inexpensive memory for my unit, however first I'd like it to boot W2K My goal has been to keep costs low, thus far I'm in $35 for cables (for 2 I-Openers), $51 incl s&h for a 1.3+ GB laptop hard drive and PC adapter, $35 for a USB ethernet NIC. Thus about $121 + $105 (cost of I-Opener initially with state sales tax 6%). I'd like to get 2 more if this one can run W2k, but would like to keep the cost per unit initially below $300.

Again, before worrying about subsequent units, I really do want to get this thing running W2k... anyone with success on a V3 please post any workarounds regarding hard drive boot failure issues

06-05-2000 10:07:56

New MessageRE:W2K aka Windows 2000 and how to get an I-Opener running it?? (modified 0 times) justme
Well, I disabled the pins on the SanDisk, W2K still wouldn't boot Instead I am running (currently) on my I-Opener under Windows 98SE (works Ok, but I really prefer W2K).

Sigh... anyway... it's a pretty decent piece of hardware for the money

Anyone with suggestions on how to get the I-Opener to boot and run W2K ( Windows 2000 ) DO reply to this thread

06-12-2000 17:14:03

New MessageRE:W2K aka Windows 2000 and how to get an I-Opener running it?? (modified 0 times) danimoor
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Have you tried modifying the boot.ini? Maybe it's pointing to boot off the sandisk.

Dan

06-26-2001 22:24:14

New MessageRE:W2K aka Windows 2000 and how to get an I-Opener running it?? (modified 0 times) _wlj_
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It's been a while, but I previously had one of my v1 I-Openers running Windows 2000 Professional with no difficulties using a 1.2GB IBM hard disk as the single IDE device (SanDisk disabled). I don't recall having had to do anything special to get it to work, either. I realize that this isn't a particularly helpful comment to you, but perhaps knowledge that it is possible somehow helps...

Out of curiosity, had you tried disabling the SanDisk via the BIOS prior to cutting pins?

06-26-2001 22:43:53

New MessageRE:W2K aka Windows 2000 and how to get an I-Opener running it?? (modified 0 times) ckbone
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I hope you all realize this topic is a year old. Since this topic was started, many people have installed Win2k, myself included. I have an IDE cdrom attached, plus I never touched the sandisk. The cdrom just kicks it off during the boot.....Win 2k runs just fine, particularly if you have 128meg of ram.
06-27-2001 15:50:29

New MessageRE:W2K aka Windows 2000 and how to get an I-Opener running it?? (modified 0 times) Skypilot
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CK- what drivers are you using to run W2K with? I have W98 and Wme running but would like to go to W2K if the drivers would work.
Skypilot - "Keep the blue side up"
06-28-2001 17:20:27

New MessageRE:W2K aka Windows 2000 and how to get an I-Opener running it?? (modified 0 times) ckbone
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That's the neat thing about 2k....It has all the necessary drivers, including sound and video. I never put it on a V5(I don't have one). After the install everything worked....I think you have to add a std 56k modem, that's all. All my USB stuff worked also...amazing.
06-28-2001 17:41:52

New MessageRE:W2K aka Windows 2000 and how to get an I-Opener running it?? (modified 0 times) zyxw
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Skypilot,
Install W2K on a desktop, then just prior to moving it over to the I-Opener, from administrator update the IDE driver to the VIA driver (it's included with W2K, that is get to device manager and update driver for IDE controller make it the VIA busmaster IDE controller, shutdown on desktop and reboot on I-Opener, it should work... this I believe is the only real trick needed ) Happy booting... PS i run W2K on ALL my I-Openers (this one, with a AMD K6 III runs swell, another with a K6 III+ runs even better (at higher speed) and my daughter runs a vanilla Winchip I-Opener and W2K somewhat slower but without any real problems)).
06-29-2001 08:06:08

New MessageRE:W2K aka Windows 2000 and how to get an I-Opener running it?? (modified 0 times) patcat88
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I don't have a IO yet but soon will get one off ebay. But what you do is install dos (recommend from win95B, win98 for fat32 support) on the drive and copy the the whole cd or the i386 folder (if your low on space) to the hard drive. Make sure the hard drive is 2gb and up or you won't have space. Now move drive to the IO. Boot it into DOS and cd your way to the root of i386 on the and run winnt.exe, not winnt32.exe! It will start and copy the text phase install files and reboot. When you reboot you will have to select which partion and etc.
We do this since most of are system's BIOSs don't do cd booting so instead of burning 5 minutes on the 4 win2k bootdisks, we use DOS disks with cdrom drivers.

Also I highly discourage installing on one PC and moving over to another. Windows 98 becomes unstable. Windows 2000 won't get past the startup scren.

08-28-2002 19:05:31

New MessageRE:W2K aka Windows 2000 and how to get an I-Opener running it?? (modified 0 times) gr8_brit
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Guys,

This page has a lot of good info. Make your W2K CD bootable and slipstream the latest service pack...

http://www.bink.nu/Bootcd/default.htm

Works a dream!

No messing about with upgrading or loading cabs...

It also (if your hard disk isn't formatted -like mine wasn't) does a partition build and format.

Try it!

Cheers,


gr8_brit
08-29-2002 10:17:42

New MessageRE:W2K aka Windows 2000 and how to get an I-Opener running it?? (modified 0 times) ckbone
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I'm curious if anyone has sp3 for w2k, installed on an I-Opener. I suspect this update may cure some USB problems, much like WXP does.
09-03-2002 17:11:49

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