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New MessageBeOS on IO (modified 0 times) koaptec
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Is anyone using BeOS on their IO?
11-25-2000 15:08:03

New MessageRE:BeOS on IO (modified 0 times) Scott_A
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Yes, quite avidly. I never expected the Winchip2 upgrade to make such a difference. Why do you ask?
11-26-2000 15:37:17

New MessageRE:BeOS on IO (modified 0 times) koaptec
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We would like to receive Internet Radio so I started checking OSs designed for multimedia. The BeOS seems like the perfect OS for hardware challenged sys such as the IO. I checked the IO postings--there were a few BeOS posts after ver 5 came out but nothing since ~7/17/00. Also while a few mentioned interest in trying BeOS on an IO, I could find no mention of anyone's actual experience with it. I then checked the various Be websites but so far have not found any Be IA specific sites or a Be forum that even mentions using it with IO type hardware. Would appreciate any pointers or suggestions. Thanks!
11-27-2000 16:17:04

New MessageRE:BeOS on IO (modified 0 times) numbski
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I can tell you why everyone gave up on using BeOS on the I-Opener:

No support for USB Network Adapters. No Support for Parallel Network Adapters.

There's no way to use the I-O on a LAN running that operating system. Sure, you can use it for dial-up access, but all the of the web browsers for BeOS suck. NetPositive and Opera aren't that great. Mozilla for BeOS (Netscape) development seems to have ground to a halt.

I love using BeOS, but with no way to get this thing on a LAN, it's not worth my time. Make sense?

Numbski

11-28-2000 06:55:30

New MessageRE:BeOS on IO (modified 0 times) koaptec
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Numbski and others,

Would like to use it primarily for Internet Radio on our std hardware challenged IO using a std dial up connection so the problems mentioned are not a major concern.

Can you give me any pointers or suggestions? Thanks!

11-28-2000 08:41:58

New MessageRE:BeOS on IO (modified 0 times) numbski
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Then here's how ya do it:

Download and install BeOS personal on your windows or linux PC. It will install to an ISO image on your hard drive. From here you have a couple of options. Burn a cd using that ISO image, then boot the IO with that cd and install to a hard drive you've hooked up to the IO, or 2, get a laptop hard drive and adapt it to plug into your PC. Then run installer from BeOS. Installer will create a BFS (Be File System) on your hard drive and install the OS. Unplug the hard drive, plug it into the IO and boot up.

You'll need the hacked Blade3D drivers for Cyberblade i7 chip, but good luck getting it. http://www.bebits.com took it down a couple of months ago and I haven't been able to get my hands on it since. Everything else at least *seems* standard and would work okay from square one.

Too bad we don't have anyone around with a knack for writing drivers. Getting an ethernet adapter to work on the IO might make for a legit portable BeOS machine community. :\

Numbski

11-28-2000 09:55:52

New MessageRE:BeOS on IO (modified 0 times) koaptec
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Numbski,

Thanks for the tips! The BeIAs got a lot of good press at Comdex. Hopefully this will help the driver situation.

Did you load the full OS or reduce it--like Win9X lite or micro?

11-28-2000 19:26:08

New MessageRE:BeOS on IO (modified 0 times) numbski
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The full OS is tiny, no reason not to load the whole thing. I don't know if it's possible to squish it down to 16 MB and fit it on the sandisk, possibly, but I wouldn't want to be the one attempting. I don't know what's safe to get rid of and what isn't. :) That and life without swap generally sucks.
11-29-2000 06:49:46

New MessageRE:BeOS on IO (modified 0 times) Scott_A
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When I first got my i-Opener hacked, I had to use the version 4.5 I had purchased before. It ran dog slow because of the Vesa20 mode that I was running it in. I have since then bought BeOS 5 Pro edition. As far as I know, the CyberBlade drivers are native. Are the drivers not native for it in the Personal Edition?
11-30-2000 14:24:12

New MessageRE:BeOS on IO (modified 0 times) numbski
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Well, the VESA drivers will work, but you'll get better performance out of the hacked Blade3D drivers for the Cyberblade i7. I wish I could get my hands on them....the bebits admin acknowledged that they were once there, but wouldn't give me any contact info on the authors. I encourage anyone else to try. If you want to know what I'm talking about run a search on http://www.google.com for cyberblade i7 and beos. It'll pop back the links to the bebits page that used to have the drivers. You'll also get a brief description of what they are.

Numbski

11-30-2000 19:01:10

New MessageRE:BeOS on IO (modified 0 times) Scott_A
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I'm actually interested in BeOS5PE. You see, I bought the retail Pro version [again], and the Cyberblade drivers were in fact native (I noticed like a 250% increase in performance) to that release. Shouldn't the PE version have native cyberblade drivers too?
11-30-2000 19:33:48

New MessageRE:BeOS on IO (modified 0 times) numbski
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To my knowledge, no personal edition does not have those drivers. It operates in a Vesa compatability mode. Hacked Blade3D drivers were how you got around this. Perhaps this is why Bebits made the authors take down these drivers?

Numbski

12-01-2000 10:33:20

New MessageRE:BeOS on IO (modified 0 times) koaptec
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Scott_A, Numbski, and other BeOS users

Am ready to try installing. What is the present status of BeOS native cyberblade drivers? If still unavailable would someone please email me it? Thanks!

12-20-2000 17:57:52

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