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Would 256 sdram make a difference than 128 sdram?

New MessageWould 256 sdram make a difference than 128 sdram? (modified 0 times) ASPguy
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Hi, due to the cheap cost of sdram i'm considering in purchasing another 128 sdram chip for my desktop. It currently already have a 128 sdram at 100 mhz.

I wanted to get some advice on if it would make a huge difference bringing up the desktop to 256 sdram. The cpu is an amd 500 mhz, and the navigation of opening windows and files are somewhat chopping and at times delays. I also play tribes which is a 3d shooter game. Would an additional 128 to my existing 128 sdram desktop matter?

Thanks.

-AsPguy

P.S. For those waiting for the amd mods, I've received digikeys and awaiting allied. Also i have just 1 unopened from it's cardboard box v3 iopener for $175 if anyone wants it email studmufn@hotmail.com Thanks.

12-04-2000 12:50:19

New MessageRE:Would 256 sdram make a difference than 128 sdram? (modified 0 times) ravton
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256 is a good sweet spot. You probably won't notice much difference between 192 and 256, but definitely a difference from 128.

Tribes will start up a little quicker but you won't see a difference in gameplay. If you haven't done so already, defrag your drive, that will improve startup times even more and probably reduce the choppiness you see (probably more caused by disk access).

If it was me, I'd dump the K6-2(3?) 500 for a new AMD Duron or Athlon processor and motherboard. You'll see an big improvement in Tribes even without upgrading your video card (which you also may want to do).

And how about a new hard drive? Bigger, faster, better?

Ah hell, just buy a new system.

And don't forget a new, big monitor...

12-04-2000 16:17:22

New MessageRE:Would 256 sdram make a difference than 128 sdram? (modified 0 times) 02U2
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I agree with ravtron, 256 should make a noticeable difference But definately dump the K-6
I'm running an Intel P-III 550 I got it REAL CHEAP! I've been burning this sucker in for a week and plan on overclockin' to 733 in another week or so... It smokes My K-6 2 550.
Also running SCSI-2 and IBM SCSI-2 HDD, This alone makes a noticeable improvement.
Also get a Motherboard with at least a 1 meg cache.......

If you do buy the extra ram go with PC-133 here it's almost the same price as pc-100.
And a new video card makes a definate improvement too! I got a Diamond Viper 32MB AGP Piece of crap and it smokes my Matrox G-400 on the K6-2 system.

12-04-2000 17:13:28

New MessageRE:Would 256 sdram make a difference than 128 sdram? (modified 0 times) ASPguy
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Well, the only game i actually play is tribes, i have unreal tournament and quake 3 but it's collecting dust.

Anyhow, i would get better cpu and motherboard except I don't really want to pay $200+ for the add-on where i don't think it would make that huge of a difference in game play.

What i was hoping is that the computer would let me navigate within windows such as opening the windows explorer or files, copy and so forth smoothly. right now at times it just lags and that makes no sense for a 500 mhz amd cpu. I mean i would use other cpus that are running at 200 mhz and it navigates fine. smoothly. It might just mean that i need to defrag my harddrive. I haven't done so in at least 3 weeks. I'll try that.

I run a voodoo 3 100 amd video card, and the modem is actually an actiontec call waiting modem. just like the one in the iopener, i paid $89 just for the modem! it works great though letting rings sound through when it's calling in through call waiting so my friends and other folks can call while we're online. DSL and cable modem aren't available in our area.

i figured it was a ram issue since i am a multi-tasker as anyone else. i would run the Interner Explorer, homesite html editor, windows media player, and photoshop. A typical set of active programs. So with all of that, i figured 128 sdram wouldn't be enough.

So, i'll defrag my system and see if it makes a difference.

Would it matter if if i get the 128 sdram 133 mhz chip for my computer which motherboard is 100 mhz and cpu is 500 mhz at 100 mhz bus, and my other 128 sdram chip is at 100 mhz? Wouldn't a 133 mhz cause some conflicts? are you sure it would work at the max of 100 mhz if it's joined in with the other 128 sdram 100 mhz chip?

-aspguy

12-05-2000 12:25:13

New MessageRE:Would 256 sdram make a difference than 128 sdram? (modified 0 times) ravton
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There are really better forums for this. Try something like arstechnica.com or tomshardware.com. They have pretty detailed guides on upgrading and comparision of different upgrades.

That said, a 133 DIMM is only going to run at 100 in your box (with no extra speed and no problems). You'll have to make the call on whether it's worth the extra money in case you ever use it in a future system. If you're running photoshop then you don't have enough memory, 256MB is minimum.

If you just defragged 3 weeks ago then that probably isn't the problem. Most likely you're out of memory and swapping alot so a memory upgrade should help.

Upgrading the CPU and video would make a tremendous difference in the frame rates that you get. I went from < 20 fps to well over 60fps after an upgrade. I suddenly started being in the top 2-3 guys in almost every tribes server. The K6-2 seriously sucks for Tribes.

BTW: You're going to need ALOT better box when Tribes 2 comes out.

12-05-2000 14:57:05

New MessageRE:Would 256 sdram make a difference than 128 sdram? (modified 0 times) 02U2
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PC 133 will work on most 100MHZ boards. I just suggested getting the PC133 for future upgradability....Mat save you some money on your next upgrade. I've noticed here there is very little difference in price between PC100 and 133.
12-05-2000 16:55:21

New MessageRE:Would 256 sdram make a difference than 128 sdram? (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Like Ravtron stated it will only run at 100mhz though...
12-05-2000 16:56:28

New MessageRE:Would 256 sdram make a difference than 128 sdram? (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Oh one more thing...
Due to Major OEM's forcasted sluggish PC sales this season I suspect that there will be a continuing glut of Ram and other parts and maybe continuing price drops to go along with it!
12-05-2000 17:01:12

New MessageRE:Would 256 sdram make a difference than 128 sdram? (modified 0 times) mp3boombox
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256 ver 128, you'll see a dif but not much. your best choise would be to OVER clock your AMD cpu. clock it at 5.5x100 if your able to. that will give you an extra 50mhz but can realy increase the HEAT on your cpu. there are other methods to cooling the IO cpu. like scraping off the HOT cap on the chip :) for direct core cooling

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12-09-2000 11:47:12

New MessageRE:Would 256 sdram make a difference than 128 sdram? (modified 0 times) ASPguy
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umm i have an amd 333 mhz chip but wouldn't mind running the amd 500 chip, but the only cooling i have is a cpu fan which has a heatsink of it's own. it's the sunon fan?

how fast can i run an amd chip before requiring futher cooling or that the back cover is off? i want to keep the unit closed with the back cover.


right now i'm running my io at 4.5 x 66 mhz , running it at 4.5 x 100 mhz creates problems. just wondering what is the best setting. thanks.
Thanks.

12-10-2000 22:21:32

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