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Random Annoyances (v5's and used I-Openers)
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New MessageRandom Annoyances (v5's and used I-Openers) (modified 0 times) cyrixone
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First, a quick rundown on I-Opener versions, in case you're new and don't know the version scheme:

v1 - original I-Opener with Winchip and BIOS that boots any OS. QNX exploits (hacking the built in OS) work. Demo has a male voice.
v2 - Updated BIOS that only boots QNX, glued into socket. Hardware and software wise same as v1.
v3 - Same as v2 except holes in QNX patched and demo has a female voice.
v3b - A v3 with Torx screws in the base instead of philips.
v4 - Torx screws, same QNX as the v3 series, CPU is now a Rise PR266, BIOS is no longer glued down. Screen is now Hitachi instead of Sharp.
v4b - a v4 with the voltage adjustment switch above the SODIMM slot. VERY RARE, but I've seen it!
v5 - Same as a v4b but with AD1881 audio instead of the Yamaha OPL3SA. New BIOS that does not let you get into setup, and will not boot prior versions of the QNX software.
Whew, I'm glad that's over!

Well, after seeing some almost familiar prices on HSN ($149) and eBay ($120) for the I-Opener, I decided to add a few more to my collection. Just when I thought I was an I-Opener "expert", these latest I-Openers went and bitchslapped me as I attempted to "hack" them.

You may have noticed on eBay that many sellers state that an "unhackable" I-Opener exists... Well, the truth is - they DO! The "unhackable" I-Opener is ANY version (v2, v3, v3b) that has a glued BIOS, but the catch is - it has to have been used recently with Netpliance's service. Apparantly Netpliance did some kind of update to the OS that makes the old "reflashing via QNX image on hard drive" trick (which works on all virgin I-Openers prior to v5) NOT WORK! This means that in order to reflash these used I-Openers, you have to resort to removing the epoxy.

Epoxy removal WAS easy when your I-Opener was part of a fresh shipment and the epoxy didn't have much time to set... On a used I-Opener, the epoxy is ROCK HARD and almost impossible to remove without breaking the socket. If you break your socket - game over. Unopened or unsubscribed I-Openers are a different story - the QNX image trick works like a charm on them, even if the epoxy has turned to stone.

The latest v5's are somewhat annoying... The only way to get a v5 "hacked" is to buy a new BIOS from badflash.com, OR hotflash it with another I-Opener. I have no problem with hotflashing, but if you're not careful you can end up with a fried I-Opener. This isn't the real problem with the v's though...

Problem #1, "Where's my Legacy Audio, dude?":
The real problem is that the "hacked" v5 BIOS is missing "Legacy Sound Blaster Pro" support for the onboard VIA audio. YES it is SUPPOSED to be there, NO it is not. The VIA audio drivers in the \DOS folder will inform you of this situation if you try to install them. This means NO "restart in MS-DOS mode" support for sound. Maybe whoever hacked the BIOS can fix this... Assembly code is all greek to me.

Problem #2, "The QNX that wouldn't die":
Another annoying v5 problem: You cannot simply delete the QNX partitions on the SanDisk, create an active DOS partition, format it (with /s), and hope for it to boot - because it won't. Apparantly the I-Opener 2001 QNX has a screwed up boot location (MBR, possibly?) or something similar going on. I finally managed to get it to boot by using DOLLY to restore an image of another I-Opener's DOS-having SanDisk.

Problem #3, "The silent v5":
v5 I-Openers don't have the PC speaker line routed through the speakers as the prior versions did. No bleeps, beeps or chirps... Anyone find a hack to restore PC speaker support to the v5?

01-01-2001 07:38:42

New MessageRE:Random Annoyances (v5's and used I-Openers) (modified 0 times) sseay
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Great Post!

I have a V3b which I modified. I just purchased a V5 and was thinking about flashing the BIOS myself. I know may think twice about that. Do you know of a link on this board that has the exact instructions for flashing new BIOS using another Iopener?

Thanks again for the post. I probably should leave my old Iopener the way it is since I slightly cracked the BIOS housing when removing the goop.

01-01-2001 08:01:37

New MessageRE:Random Annoyances (v5's and used I-Openers) (modified 0 times) YouBecha
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Yes, real nice rundown of the systems.

I guess I am one of the few lucky V4B owners.


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01-01-2001 08:23:28

New MessageRE:Random Annoyances (v5's and used I-Openers) (modified 0 times) ttn1
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This has been covered many times over on this BBS, but I will rehash it again. The epoxy even though rock hard can be removed. You have tio be very careful though. One thing that helps immensely is heat from a common hair dryer applied to the epoxy. Its amazing how well this works even on the rock hard epoxy. It also helps to have the equivalent of a set of dental picks. I believe radio shack has these. I have removed the epoxy from 2 v3 ios using the heating and dental pick technique. I was also lucky and had an ABIT BH6 motherboard which is capable of flashing the io bios. I did all of this back when the QNX flash was still being tested. The key word if you need to remove the epoxy is patience.

ttn2

01-01-2001 10:13:40

New MessageRE:Random Annoyances (v5's and used I-Openers) (modified 0 times) Grima
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I agree...I removed the epoxy from a V3b that was used and ROCK HARD. It took a few hours, but it was definitely doable. I actually used a sharp pocket knife and a jewelers flat head screwdriver. I could probably have done it faster with better tools. The key is patience. Dont try to pop the bios out with it still half-glued into place...you'll break the socket. BTW...I bought a PLC extractor to use for this and other products, but it was a waste. The jewelers screwdriver worked just as well.
01-01-2001 12:21:22

New MessageRE:Random Annoyances (v5's and used I-Openers) (modified 0 times) ckbone
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I removed the epoxy using a box of single edge razor-blades, no heat. Change the blade every few minutes. You can gradually shave off the top section using very shallow cuts. don't worry about any epoxy on the m-board. If the socket breaks, it'll do so at the corners....you could actually re-enforce the corners at the outside with more epoxy.....allow it to dry before doing the scraping. Very small screwdrivers from Radio Shack worked in the pin area. If you crack the socket, it can be held together successfully with a small nylon cable tie. Getting the new BIOS chip to seat properly can be difficult. If you are unsuccessful, you will get a black screen on start-up. Just keep trying different heights for the chip....don't just push it all the way in. Have patience......you can do it.
01-01-2001 13:00:24

New MessageRE:Random Annoyances (v5's and used I-Openers) (modified 0 times) Linuxguru
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Good summary. V4B units used to be fairly common, the only reason they seem rare is that they are the preferred unit to own, and people don't want to part with them (SW4, legacy audio, easy to hack).

Problem #2 on a V5 is not serious - if you have a halfway decent set of disk formatting tools, everything is easily fixed.

I have posted before on how to hotflash a V5 BIOS on an earlier (V2, V3, V4) unit. Just search around.

01-01-2001 13:04:01

New MessageRE:Random Annoyances (v5's and used I-Openers) (modified 0 times) Millennium_Falcon
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Trying to reach ckbone

If you see this, ckbone, post a message to me at Jim@SV-Millennium-Falcon.com. I need some information on the Toshiba 1402 CD

01-01-2001 13:34:51

New MessageRE:Random Annoyances (v5's and used I-Openers) (modified 0 times) Tackhead
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cyrixone: What Linuxguru said - great summary!

Problem #2: The QNX that wouldn't die. There's an undocumented switch to FDISK. If the problem you describe is MBR-related, try FDISK /MBR to rewrite the MBR before rebooting. (Don't try this on a Linux box, just a DOS box!)

01-02-2001 12:56:23

New MessageRE:Random Annoyances (v5's and used I-Openers) (modified 0 times) abysm
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I believe I have a V5, I don't have a Yamaha chip, and I wasn't able to get into the bios without the badflash chip. I also get an unknown PCI multimedia device in my windows 98SE device viewer. I assume I have to get some drivers from viatech.com? I'm going to try to use some of the onese for their 4 in one chips, let me know if I am correct or not. Thanks for the great site.
01-03-2001 13:25:14

New MessageRE:Random Annoyances (v5's and used I-Openers) (modified 0 times) ckbone
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The 4-in-1 drivers off the VIA site are for the chipset only. There are drivers for the V5 audio there also. That is the unknown device windows is reporting. Adding the VIA sound drivers should get you sound and remove the unknown device.
01-03-2001 14:20:57

New MessageRE:Random Annoyances (v5's and used I-Openers) (modified 0 times) teksavy
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My equipment is the V5 IO from HSN. No epoxy. Badflash Bios installed. custom badflash cable with IBM 1.4gb drive and have win98 cabs on HD.

I am not booting.. Take a look below...

> Problem #2: The QNX that wouldn't die. There's an undocumented switch to
> FDISK. If the problem you describe is MBR-related, try FDISK /MBR to
> rewrite the MBR before rebooting. (Don't try this on a Linux box, just a
> DOS box!)

Is this a common problem with V5 IO? I formatted my HD with /s and when I boot up, I can get into the bios, see the master is my IBM HD and secondary is the sandisk.

But when I reboot, it just freezes after the bios info:

Award Bios v4.51PG
I-Opener Bios v5.0.0. (Patched)
Rise mP6 - PR266 CPU Found
Memory Test 30720 + 2048k
Detected IDE Primary Master - IBMXXXXX
Detected IDE Primary Master - Sandisk

And just stops until I power down. Do I need to do a FDISK /MBR and reformat with /S to fix this problem??

Please help.. I will try all suggestions.

Thx,

Teksavy (or not so savvy today)

01-16-2001 22:22:35

New MessageRE:Random Annoyances (v5's and used I-Openers) (modified 0 times) Tackhead
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Teksavy: Assuming both drives' primary partitions are active, and assuming both drives are DOS drives (i.e., not Linux!) I'd try FDISK /mbr.
01-17-2001 17:07:42

New MessageRE:Random Annoyances (v5's and used I-Openers) (modified 0 times) MisterWhistler
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I've noticed that everyone is saying "game over" if you crack your socket. Usually when you break your socket it will not work by "twist tie-ing." I have done this with three IO's. Your solution is to buy the correct plcc sockets from digikey, and replace it.

Remember which direction the socket was facing... make sure you remember where arrow on the socket points. This shouldnt matter that much until you match up the dot on your bios w/ the arrow on the socket.

Then, Just start hacking away at the plastic parts of the socket (once the bios is out). Be careful not to rip out any of the pins. Once you have gotten as much plastic out as possible... just get a soldering iron and some pliers... once you get it all out, make sure there is a bit of solder (not too much) on each pad. Go over each pad and make sure there are no shorts. Place the new socket in (arrow pointing the same way you remembered; the epoxy on the mobo will keep it aligned, but hold it there. Then, take your soldering iron and heat up the little pins, so that it will fuse w/ the solder. Do this until it will hold the socket in place. Once done, just remember to solder the remaining pins. Use thin solder, too!!! Try it out with your badflash bios, or your flashed bios. If it doesn't work at first, dont chuck it out the window, just check your connections. MAKE SURE there are not even hairline shorts!!

All of this talking seems confusing, but when I got into IO's, I did it perfectly my first time without any help (just solder experience. This has worked perfectly for all of the IO's I have had. Good luck!

01-18-2001 14:18:49

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