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Toshiba XM-1402b implementation

New MessageCD Troubles...Maybe??? (modified 0 times) Millennium_Falcon
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I have the IO up and running (in DOS only so far) with an IBM 4.7 Gig HD and am trying to get the Toahiba 1402 up. After a conversation with ckbone if have gotten it detected and am wondering if its got more to go or not.

To recap the setup:

1) put the slave jumper on the second pair of pins, that is to say, the pair closest to the ribbon connector.

2) go to the "ID HDD AUTO Detection" screen in the BIOS setup and detect the HD then hit "n" to skip detecting the CD.

3) go to the "Standard CMOS setup" screen on the BIOS setup and set the first drive to AUTO and the second drive to NONE.

4) then "save and exit" and hit "y" to confirm.

This will cause it to boot on the HD and post a line "Found CD ROM: TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-1402B". And the SanDisk, or SunDisk as my BIOS calls it, is nowhere to be found.

So Far SO Good.

But now here is my problem. The drive drawer, how do you open it? Do you push the button on the front as with most drives? Seems sort of counter productive since the button is on the door that you want to spring out opposite the direction you are pressing the button. Or is it a software command?

Also, when I try to change drive to D:, which is where I would expect the drive to be located, I get the "invalid drive name" message.

Am I missing something here?

01-02-2001 09:46:33

New MessageRE:CD Troubles...Maybe??? (modified 0 times) YouBecha
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If you are trying to access the drive in DOS, you may need the drivers loaded (I don't use DOS except in the windows shell so I don't really remember what that entails, but the win98 startup floppy has it...copy it to your HD)

Windows should automatically load the drivers (see if the drive exists in the device manager).

If you are trying to access the drive in some other OS, then I have no clue.


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01-02-2001 10:02:08

New MessageRE:CD Troubles...Maybe??? (modified 0 times) D2tw4all
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If it is DOS, you DEFINITELY need to load DOS cdrom drivers for the drive. While you could probably extract them from the win98 boot disk, it isn't quite as easy as just copying the files because they are compressed into a ramdrive. In any event, you will need to load the cdrom sys driver and config.sys and mscdex.exe in autoexec.bat... Check the toshiba web site to see if they have specific DOS drivers for the cdrom drive, they probably do somewhere. Good luck...
D2.
01-02-2001 11:58:21

New MessageRE:CD Troubles...Maybe??? (modified 0 times) YouBecha
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If you are trying to access the drive in DOS, you may need the drivers loaded (I don't use DOS except in the windows shell so I don't really remember what that entails, but the win98 startup floppy has it...copy it to your HD)

Windows should automatically load the drivers (see if the drive exists in the device manager).

If you are trying to access the drive in some other OS, then I have no clue.


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01-02-2001 13:58:18

New MessageRE:CD Troubles...Maybe??? (modified 0 times) mp3boombox
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As for adding a CD i'v done this already. You do not HAVE to do the detect thing in the bios for the CDROM. i'v got the verys ame CDROM. which i'v gotten working and also have the correct DOS drivers for it. AFTER gosh mush have been 3 weeks of searching. If you'd like i can put them up for download some time. with config.sys and autoexec.bat settings.

i DONT know off hand the ame of the drivers with out seraching thew my STUFF. i'v burnd the info to one of my hundreds of CD'S. welp got to go

01-02-2001 14:25:42

New MessageRE:CD Troubles...Maybe??? (modified 0 times) mp3boombox
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Oh ya for got to mention, hehe as for opening the cdrom. It's a laptop drive so hehe the entire front is the size of the CD. so YES you press the button to open the tray but remove your hand quickly because they open fast. THEN just pull the tray out load or remove your CD and push the tray closed. Simple process realy, but then again who know's ;). You can also in windows right mouse on the cdrom drive leter and go to eject. and it WILL eject the CDROM but this means the spring loaded latch will just release and the tray will pop out about one inch. and hence you pull it out load/remove and close. 1 2 3 hehe
01-02-2001 14:34:33

New MessageRE:CD Troubles...Maybe??? (modified 0 times) ckbone
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My Toshiba 1402 will not do a soft eject. I don't think it will eject until the drivers for it are loaded, mine didn't anyway. Look....you don't need to mess with DOS drivers unless you really want to use DOS. Just load the Win CAB files on the hard drive....install Windows from there. When you are done, with windows working, your cdrom will also work. Windows does not use the DOS cdrom driver anyway. If you need a DOS driver for the Toshiba, I have one that I know works.
01-02-2001 15:17:04

New MessageRE:CD Troubles...Maybe??? (modified 0 times) mp3boombox
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Well you know what i do is simple. On my second IO which is on a double MINI ide connector i'v got the hard drive and CDROM hooked up. Now all i do is have a speical format setup that intails the following:
1. I boot the computer with a dos ramdrive
2. I copy over the files required to boot the hard drive with DOS cdrom support.
3. format the hard drive, tipicly (format c: /q /s ) so it formats quick and copy's over the system files to make the drive BOOTable.
4. copy over the files to the hard drive required to boot the drive with CDROM support.
5. Install winblows off the CDROM.
5-1. save or trash DOS cdrom drivers. regarless winblows will rem them anyways.
I'd rather save my self 10+ min of copying 120megs to the hard drive considering how SPEEDY laptop drives are in 16bit DOS mode
With luck this might even help someone.


The easy way to do the ramdisk setup is simple. Build a windows bootdisk, this will contain all that crap including cdrom drivesr. But to copy the FLOPPY disk to the hard drive you must go into the 2 autoexec.bat files and maby a config.sys file i forget. and change a drive letter from a: to C: or what ever drive your BOOTING from IF you'v got your cdrom as master and hard drive as slave. In this case you would set the config files autoexec.bat/config.sys drive letters to the corisponding BOOTING drive.

I do have my own setup wich uses the REAL tosh 1402 cdrom dos drivers but even the windows boot generic drivers work JUST fine for getting the system going.

01-02-2001 17:08:51

New MessageRE:CD Troubles...Maybe??? (modified 0 times) ckbone
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There are many ways to skin a cat....Also many ways to set up a computer. The just posted method does not sound easy to me. I do it slightly differently. Here's how I installed ME on my I-Opener using the Toshiba cdrom:

With the hard drive in a standard computer using a 2.5/3.5" adaptor, the drive set as master , I detected the drive in the other computer, then booted it using a Maxtor drive setup disk Ver 9.04. This setup disk will format the drive, add the DOS files, and make it bootable. You then reboot the laptop drive, to the DOS prompt.

At the DOS prompt I installed the DOS cdrom drivers using a Panasonic driver setup desk Ver 2.07. Then reboot to the laptop drive again, and the cdrom on the other computer should appear. Then I installed the laptop drive in the I-Opener, with the Toshiba cdrom as a slave. Following the directions in the first post in this topic I booted to DOS. You should now have the cdrom (Toshiba) available as a drive. Insert the Windows cdrom disk. Change to the cdrom drive letter and type setup.. Hit enter....the install begains.

This involves no complicated DOS commands, which may not be familar to everyone. The mentioned software programs are easily available....You don't have to use those exact programs. The Toshiba drive will work with a generic cdrom driver in DOS.

01-02-2001 17:56:48

New MessageRE:CD Troubles...Maybe??? (modified 0 times) redwood
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my experiences:
I bought two cd's, same time, one works Fine in the IO, the other doesn't (but, it does in a pc) I tried Everything, dos drivers, you name it...
Now, the good one seems to Not showup in my system, so, _If this is a bios thing, if Anybody has a clue, I'm willing to follow it, :)
01-02-2001 20:26:00

New MessageRE:CD Troubles...Maybe??? (modified 0 times) mp3boombox
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The method i just talked about was taking a computer that has an install of windows on it already. Thats what i did to go from win98 to 98se.
01-02-2001 21:54:51

New MessageRE:CD Troubles...Maybe??? (modified 0 times) Millennium_Falcon
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I am back!!! On the 2nd I lost my main computer and the next day the HD in the iopener crashed. Now I have the main desk top up and the drive just came for the I opener.

Anyway, thanks to everyone who responded to this thread, I will be setting up the CD this week and will try all this stuff.

01-16-2001 18:49:48

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