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COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email Hey there I was wondering if there are two working COM ports in a V5? I did a search on the forums and all I came up with was a pinout diagram for COM 1. Is there any way I could get 2 working com ports in an I-opener? Im tinkering with the notion of using it as a smart card programmer...(cough..cough) emulator thingamabob. 01-27-2001 18:56:14

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) starfish Profile CN12 & CN13 Open the Memory Door, It's on the right of the Ram. Of course, the other is where the Modem is connected. 01-27-2001 19:21:58

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email GWIZAH: What a good idea, the iO is a natural for emulation. Check out the thread "Dual RS-232 DaughterBoard". This board is being produced to support my iOemu design: iOemu-eye opening emulation" :) The compact form factor of the iO makes it a natural for emulation. The daugherboard easily adds the two serials to support the emulator and programmer, and will be available in a little over a week. Contact me via email if you'd like to discuss it further (out of the reach of 'Dave', hehe. 01-27-2001 21:39:16

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email DUDE! that mod is killer...Now I just have to buy a kit from you a programmer, and an emu, and I'll have a neat little set top box with a 10" LCD screen. did you come up with that idea just for that? (emulation) 01-27-2001 23:50:59

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) jackass Profile | Email Did I miss something here? What are you talking about emulating? Are you talking about a DSS emulator? 01-27-2001 23:56:56

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email JackAss: Yes, DSS emulation. It ROCKS! GWIZAH: Greets dude :) There are several emu boys lurking around here. I've been emu'ing forEVER. I've been thinking seriously about a PCB that contains both the double serial board (soon to be released) and a programmer, yeilding a single 4-wire phone connection to the emu card in the IRD. If I get enough interest I'll knock one out. I wish iOs were generally available, one could have a GREAT product in the iOemu. If interested, this is the splash I'll be using with my iOemu: http://209.41.5.228/public/ioemu.bmp Info on the project soon to be posted in alt.dss.hack FYI, if interested in iO emulation, you'd better snag an iO now...no telling how long they will be available. Search for HSN for the most reliable source available. Email me (link above) if you need info. 01-28-2001 00:40:58

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email GWIZAH: BTW, the double serial board will, barring the intervention of some Diety, be available through http://www.BadFlash.com in a little over a week. 01-28-2001 01:07:37

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email Yeah I would be interested in a PCB board like that one. What kind of money will I be looking at spending roughly? Im new to the emulation scene and I'd like to use My I-opener for that very purpose. It sounds like a real good idea! 01-28-2001 09:23:57

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email GWIZAH: We are working out the exact prices this week. It's been a rush to market, as originally the board was planned as a homebrew project. As interest developed, we decided to produce a few. Read the Daughterboard thread to get an idea of the pricing we are trying to hit. As updates are available, they will be posted there. 01-28-2001 12:47:38

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) jackass Profile | Email I've been thinking of getting a DSS dish and an emulator for a while now. Emulation seems like the only good way to go. If I already had the DSS dish and a PC to emulate with how much would it cost to set up an emulator? As I see it I'd need a smart card programmer, an H card, and the card adapter that plugs into the IRD. Is that all that is needed? What does all that cost? 01-28-2001 19:18:37

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) northstar Profile | Email Speaking of dss emulators... Has anyone been able to get the various programs for emulating to work on Linux? This would be great with the dual serial hack and jailbait! Please share info or links. 01-28-2001 22:16:01

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) eagle Profile | Email GWIZAH: Warning this is for educational purposes only! When you said the IO was a natural you may have been closer than you thought. When you look at schematics of an EMU most of the design is converting from a TTL to RS232 voltages for the PC serial ports (0-5 to -10 - +10). Since the IO's ports are already TTL you boil the EMU down to just a: 74hc04 inverter (I think the MAX 232 inverts signals[its been a while]) 1n914 diode or one gate on a 74ls07 the phone connector on the back of the IO A 2mm header and some wire of course this will be TTL going to your IRD so you will want to stay within 6' The Programmer is close to the same but you also need a clock circuit: 1 3.579545 crystal 1 1meg Ohm resistor 1 2.2K ohm resistor 1 10K ohm resistor for the iso switch for DCD 1 100pf cap 2 22pf cap 2 74hc04 ( just one if the MAX 232 dosen't invert the signals ) 1 1n914 or a gate on 74ls07 1 ISO 7816 smart card connector You could put all this on a board that replaces the modem (if the RF is low) and if you get an ISO 7816 connector with a ribbon cable on it you would be able to mount it where the flash memory card slot is supose to go on the side. It has been a while since I have seen a cut sheet on the Max 232 but I am sure that some better hackers can track down some schematics for a "ZAP EMU", a Programmer, and the MAX 232. We are talking less than $25 for parts and a stock IO. Drop DOS and Lap Link (for uploading files through the parallel port)on the Sansdisk and POOF! HACK ON!!! Eagle 01-29-2001 10:04:57

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email Actually Eagle it was r_fl_z who said it :) I see where you goin with your "educational" recipe above, But I prefer to buy a couple of pre-built stuff to do my emu'ing. I dont have very steady hands!! But who knows, maybe I'll check it out. I hear that a homebrew programmer isnt so tough to tackle. With r_fl_z's daughterboard mod, I should be good to go! 01-29-2001 12:13:40

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile there may be a useful clock that can be set up or derived from the onboard clock generator... 01-29-2001 12:45:45

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Programmer: This hack has been in work for awhile. The dual serial to replace the modem is fully functional now, and happily emuing (search for daughterboard). The next step is to add the programmer to the same serial board...that's in work now. It doesn't look like there is a huge market for it, but I'll make up a few boards and let the BBS know when if they become available. 01-29-2001 13:35:01

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) bu11et Profile hmmm...very interesting. So, this emulation stuff you are talking about, is this free DSS or what? For a rural guy like myself, this would be quite nice. I'm interested in learning more, where should I go? bu11et 01-29-2001 16:57:06

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email bullet, check out alt.dss.hack on the newsgroups or deja.com or try http://www.hackhu.com Im fairly new to the scene myself have fun and watch out for "dave":) 01-29-2001 18:18:40

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email For more information see alt.dss.hack on usenet. Every other message there has a current list of informational links. For those in the know: PGM v3.0 is now current. I heart my iOemu :P 01-29-2001 23:41:15

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) Perplexer Profile I thought about the Websurfer Pro as an emulator (but I burned my Disk-on-Chip a while back, bah!!) Get a cheap isa serial card and you're done. What's nice about this is: 1. TV-out. Just switch the TV's input (or use picture-in-picture) to see what's on the computer screen 2. Wireless keyboard. Don't need it often, so stash the keyboard and pull it out when you need to save/stop the emulator. 3. It (kinda) looks like a home video component. 01-30-2001 01:21:44

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email I mispoke. What I meant to say was that the serial board is complete, and the next step is to add the programmer to a SIMILAR daughter board, not the SAME one that contains the double serial ports. I did a generic double serial daughter board first, thinking the appeal would be more general...both to emulators and to iO users. As Eagle points out, the emu/programmer daughterboard doesn't reqire RS-232 levels, so it's gravy. 01-30-2001 01:53:34

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email For newbies looking for FAQs and tools, try: http://www.dr7.com It's a pay site, but the FAQs and tools are free to download. 01-30-2001 01:57:20

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Btw, anyone wanting the programmer or emu schematic may email me for it. Eagle: Nice touch adding Laplink for easy updates:) 01-30-2001 02:07:26

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Unofficial alt.dss.hack emulator page. Good stuff, including schematics. http://i.am/the_faq 01-30-2001 20:07:53

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Emu fans: I thought I'd work out the schematic for the TTL level (ie, no MAX232 req'd) smart card programmer, but it appears there is a problem with the two programmer schematics I've located (they agree). Both schematics show pin 1 of the DB-9 connected to pin 14 of the MAX232 (T1out), yet neither schematic shows a connection to the corresponding MAX232 pin 11 (T1in). Anyone know what this is all about? 01-31-2001 03:52:37

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Reply to self: Looks as though they are simply using that to supply RS-232 pin 1 (CD) with an RS-232 logic low. 01-31-2001 04:04:51

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Anyone have a source for the Amphenol Smart Card connector? (p/n: C70210M0085222) 01-31-2001 05:09:18

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) eagle Profile | Email r_fl_z,(I got it right this time ;) If I remember the way to connect it in a normal circuit with the Max's in place: ..............ISO7816 ..............Switch N.C. Vcc----10K--|--|\|---------Gnd ............| ............| ............------- Max 232 pin 11 inverted out pin 14 to pin 1 of 9 pin connector then it gets inverted back through the Max 235 of a serial moded IO. This circuit makes the DCD active when a card is inserted in to the ISO 7816 slot. You can test this and see if it is right.(to many hacks have come and gone since I played with this one) Eagle 01-31-2001 08:15:38

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) eagle Profile | Email Man that looked bad (forgot to preview): .....................ISO7816 ....................Switch N.C. Vcc----10K--|--|\|---------Gnd ..................| ..................| ..................------- Max 232 pin 11 inverted out pin 14 to pin 1 of 9 pin connector then it gets inverted back through the Max 235 of a serial moded IO. I hope this is clearer. Eagle 01-31-2001 08:21:35

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) iBill Profile r_fl_z I think there would be WAY more interest in this device than you could imagine. Be prepared to be up all night and weekends making these little puppies! I myself would take two and I know of at least 10 others. Now I'm off to find at least one more i_opener Thanks! 01-31-2001 19:43:29

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email iBill: Judging by the emails I've received, I belive you are correct. I'm going to make up a few boards for some pals and myself. The design is more or less trivial, it's in work now, and I hope to have it done in just a week or so. When I get it done I'll post the details, with photos, and see if there is enough interest in making a small production run. With the recent ECM, and subsequent EMU interest, this could be a popular board. If iOs were still generally available, I'll bet one could sell thousands. Fyi, the interest in the double-serial board is so strong that I decided I couldn't make them all by hand. The current plan is to have them professionally assembled and wave soldered by SRT. Depending upon interest, I may do the same for the EMU board. 01-31-2001 23:08:32

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email The iOemu board is done, with EMU and PROGRAMER. All I need to build a prototype is the ISO7816 Smart Card connector. I've requested a sample, from AMP, of a very nice panel mount connector with fixation frame...perfect to plug into the side of the iO over the flashcard pads, or elsewhere. However, I hate to wait on that. Anyone have a source? 02-01-2001 04:08:19

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) iBill Profile damn r_fl_z, do you ever sleep?? <g> put me on the list!! 02-01-2001 12:00:14

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Sleep is for wimps! :) 02-01-2001 13:43:53

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) Teklock Profile Count me in also (unless I have one built before its done)..!! -Teklock 02-01-2001 15:55:30

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) jackass Profile | Email I'm really interested in this. Count me in for one. 02-01-2001 18:34:49

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile Don't have a DSS, but (depending on trhe price) I'm probably in (mostly for the smartcard reader/writer.. :) ) 02-02-2001 07:39:01

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email You know IM IN auntie Bea :) -wheee!- 02-02-2001 09:01:31

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) BadFlash Profile | Email Just to keep you folks posted. I've got the board and it looks real good. Now if it just works- I'll know tomorrow once I put it in my 400Mhz V4. 02-02-2001 09:33:29

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) iohack Profile I'm good for at least one, maybe more. 02-03-2001 10:10:44

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email I located a workable ISO7816 connector, and should have the iOemu board prototyped in about a week :) Once the MAX235's are stripped from the equation, its a ridiculously simple/elegant project. I'll up the preliminary PCB to my site in a day or so. 02-03-2001 16:09:46

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email WOO-HOO! ...lays on floor and does the homer simpson dance.... -wheee!- 02-03-2001 21:51:54

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) spincycle2 Profile I am very interested in buying an EMU, my email is lawrnk@yahoo.com 02-04-2001 02:04:39

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) El_Kabong Profile | Email I too would like an EMU/Programmer combo. MD 02-09-2001 14:09:07

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) MANDINGO Profile ME THREE ALSO 02-09-2001 18:26:22

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Still working on it. Getting bombarded via email with interest. Soon...very soon :) 02-10-2001 14:08:18

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email r_fl_z I finally got that Smart card connector sample, you're right...It is just PnP, Plastic and pins, that is! Oh well, was worth a shot. -G 02-19-2001 23:09:38

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Gwizah, That, of course, is the PCB mount form of the connector which most readers use. I now have two samples from Amphenol of the snap-in panel mount with integral DIP connnector and short ribbon cable to a remote board. Perfect for the iO. Unfortunately, I've been busy and don't have it running yet. Still working it. 02-20-2001 04:15:46

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) msquared Profile Here is a link to a SmartCard Reader http://oeiwcs.omron.com/stores/omron/images/NewImages/Pdf/D23V4CF0600.pdf 02-20-2001 10:40:18

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile Newcom Webpal (currently not very available) has a digital serial port and a smartcard port built in. only problem.. it has a risc cpu.. is there emu software out there for arm7 ?? or is it just a generic emulator for a specifc chip? 02-21-2001 06:53:43

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) El_Kabong Profile | Email Will there ba a retrofit kit for those of us with the dual serial/sound mod/fan P/S board? What can I say, I want it all! Thanks 02-26-2001 15:57:47

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email ElKabong: Sorry, no retro-fit. The iOemu board will eliminate the need for the dual serial board FOR EMULATION ONLY :) The dual serial board is needed for emulators using existing programmers/readers and emu cards. Many have already invested in this hardware, and would like to use it with the iO. The dual serial meets this need (and many others requiring serial ports). For folks new to emulation, who've not invested the $100-150 for the reader/emu, the iOemu board will allow compact emulation without the additional hardware investments. It will eventually support the use of BS cards as well, for those poor lost soles who got hammered. 02-27-2001 21:36:46

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile as yet, is there any way to use hu cards and recievers with emulation? 02-28-2001 09:21:32

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Not that I am aware of. 02-28-2001 19:53:30

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Fyi, mIRC channel #DSSelectronics title says there is an HU emu in-work. Look there for more information. 03-01-2001 00:47:20

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) jackass Profile | Email I'm very interested in hearing about the HU card emulator. Does anyone have any info? r_fl_z, I'd like to lend a hand if I can to getting the emulator board up and running. If you can describe the problems to us we may be able to join forces to get this problem solved. 03-05-2001 09:30:54

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Jackass: Thanks for your offer of assistance. Unfortunately, I only lack TIME to get the project completed. Too many fires in irons :) Rather than develop it in public, like the dual serial board evolved, I'll bring it to the bbs when its complete. It's running on the bench here, but not ready for disclosure yet. It's comming together, be patient...I'm pedalling as fast as I can :} 03-05-2001 13:52:54

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) iBill Profile r_fl_z: Just a reminder... I'm still out here waiting. This sounds like the absolute best use for an iOpener I can come up with. I did get my one good H card working with dyna63, but I need a clean emu. Nice to see that Codeman may have a nearly endless supply of $99 iopeners. Thanks again for all your hard work. iBill 03-06-2001 16:31:55

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) spincycle Profile I would also be very interested in a EMU integrated into the board. I got hit by black sunday, and would likely have to use a unlooper. When you mention B.S as in the boot strap sleeves, these products I'm told do not protect the card. The cheapest unlooper I can find is around 50 dollars (Bear sells the red ones as well for $30 but is out of stock) Any furhter details you have on this new design would be a very interesting read. SpinCycle 03-07-2001 07:31:36

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Well guys (and gals), I'm getting pixelation with my prototyped board. I'm not sure why. Is anyone else working on this project? I'm TTL on the front end, for the programmer. RS-232 on the emu side, for long cable length to the IRD. If anyone's working on a similar implementation, email me. 03-15-2001 02:42:56

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) Msatan666 Profile http://207.250.164.17/emulation/ You should be able to use TTL levels for the Emu side too. Zap's DIY emu board above only has a max232, 4 .1uF caps and a 1N914 Diode. It soilders straight in without any ugly emu board sticking out the front of your reciever. 03-16-2001 04:09:20

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Msatan666: Right, TTL for the emu works fine for shorter cable runs. I proto'd one without difficulty. However, for a product of more general interest, I switched back to RS232 for the emu (the run from the iO to the IRD) to allow for a more flexible relocation of the iO. Many folks have their emus located in another room, and TTL is not appropriate for those length of runs. 03-16-2001 15:18:23

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Gwizah: Did you get your B2 running? Are you planning a B2 emu with the non-standard oscillator? 03-19-2001 23:04:36

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email Actually r_fl_z, I got my hands on a RCA 403ra and Im going to get a new EEPROM (303 mod). Have you been reading the news on the scene lately? I think that might explain some of the problems you've been having with your prototype board. It seems dave has been tinkering with the freq. of code sent to the emu and is causing Freezes, pixelation, etc. What are your thought on this? I got a cheap P100 and I was going to set up an emu with that while I waited for word on the ioemu. Now Im just waiting and watching. 03-20-2001 06:34:34

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Gwizah: I don't think thats the problem. My usual emu setup runs glitch free with no pixelation. My prototype in the iO, as well as my regular emu hardware running in the iO, pixelates. Something is different with the iO. The port UARTS are the typical 16550's, and the ports seem to check out fine. Any ideas? 03-20-2001 12:25:47

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Is anyone using the iO for an emu with traditional external hardware (programmer and emu board)? If so, does it function normally? 03-20-2001 13:30:55

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile r_fl_z are you running your system clock at anything other than 66Mhz or 100 Mhz? if so then your PCI Clock which the southbridge sits on will be funky, and any specific timing for the serial ports may be off... .. granted that shouldn't really be a problem.. 03-21-2001 07:14:58

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Programmer: it's running in a plain-jane v2 iO, with no mods...except the addition of a dual serial board. Thanks. 03-21-2001 11:04:46

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Success! I'm rocking and rolling now, with the slowest iO (v2 with stock WinChip). Looks like the WinChip is just a fuzzz slow. With the /s option not in use (no snooping) it's running great :P I'll have the PCB protos soon. 03-23-2001 01:32:52

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Almost forgot: Can anyone recommend a DOS TSR screen saver? Also, I'd like to replace the Win98 boot screen when DOS boots with an image of my own. If someone can save me having to go hunt down how to do it, I'd be grateful. Finally, I can get the iOemu to blank the screen by playing with the PM BIOS functions, but I can't get it to wake up by hitting the keyboard. Any ideas? Email me if you can help. TIA 03-23-2001 01:50:46

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email WooHoo! r_fl_z, I knew you wouldnt let us down! Good job! Cant wait...Ive been sitting here watching, ugggh...Network TV for 3 months! Whats the cost per unit looking like? -wheee!- 03-23-2001 09:04:12

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) Perplexer Profile r_fl_z: The startup screen is a 320x400x256 .bmp image named logo.sys in the root of C:. I created a couple in the past, and find it easiest to create a 640x400 image, then use an image editor to resize it. You can also add pallette animation, I can go into more detail later if you like. 03-23-2001 09:49:28

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) Perplexer Profile Never mind... you said "Dos." That "splash" of a logo You get when you sys a drive from Win9x or a win9x boot disk interfered with my autoexec, so I reformatted with dos 6.22 to eliminate it. I dont know where it is stored. 03-23-2001 09:57:41

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Perplexer: Right DOS. I just located the logo.sys information, and am playing with it today. I don't know yet if it works for DOS as well. Thanks for responding. GWIZAH: :) I wasn't as confident as you, hehe, but I've very relieved. I'm going to resist the temptation to talk prices until I have the prototype boards in hand. I learned a valuable lesson shooting my mouth off too early with the serial boards, and getting myself into a big time crunch as soon as production logistics started causing delays. The pressure of not being able to deliver on time as promised was taking all the fun out of the project...and for me IT'S GOTTA BE FUN, or it ain't gonna be :) I should move forward quickly now. I'll keep you posted. PS: thanks to all serial board buyers, I really appreciate the patience of you all...and those bad-boy serial boards are FINALLY shipping :) 03-23-2001 13:10:56

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) jackass Profile | Email I'm still new to DSS and emulators. I've read through the FAQs and understand how they work but I don't know what is a rumor and what is real. I've been hearing that the H card stream is going to be shut down "soon" and that makes sense. DirecTV should have no need to support the H card any more. I've also heard about an Hu emulator in the works but since no one can prove such a thing exists I'm reluctant to believe it. Then, I saw on hack-hu.com that there was some software released for the HU cards but I'm not quite sure what the software does. So which path should I go right now? Should I invest in an H card and get up and running with an H card emu? Should I use the newly-released software to reprogram my HU card? Should I wait for an HU emu? Also, what's the best hardware to use with a standard PC emulator? 03-23-2001 23:54:18

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile you will likely need an unlooper to get the HU card into a state to AUX, beyond that you'll need essentially the same setup as an H emu.. further, they can't turn off the h stream until all h cards have been swapped. so set up with the H emu now, then when the time comes, upgrade.. or, just wait patiently. 03-24-2001 08:41:31

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) mrblack51 Profile I don't want to be rude or anything, but I think this thread was originally geared toward the hardware aspect of emulation. While the semantics of using an H card vs. and HU are intriguing and important, I'm not sure that this is the proper venue for such a discussion. I am very interested in the hardware issues that r_fl_z and the other contributors to this thread, and would like to see it continue, but the other stuff would best be discussed in another forum. 03-24-2001 15:25:07

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email I'm having a problem with the iO power management in DOS. I have a DOS application, which shall remain nameless, that uses both serial ports. This nameless application by PGM will run unattended for months at at time, non-stop...hence the necessity of blanking the lcd. By playing with the BIOS PM settings, I've have it to the point that after the PM BIOS timeout (either 10 sec or 1 hour) it blanks and turns off the backlight....PERFECT...just what I want...except: after another period of time, equal to the PM timeout, the screen restores as though an interupt has caused a wake-up. I have all PM Events (Power Management in BIOS) turned off or disabled. This implys that the source of the restoration could be PM timeout related. Any ideas? As always, thanks for you time. 03-30-2001 22:46:57

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Well, this problem has been solved. Kesh314 stopped over for a visit and solved in 15 minutes what I couldn't figure out in two weeks! Yes, I DO feel stupid, BUT my problem is solved. In case this is of interest to anyone else, the trouble was a conflict between the doze and suspend settings. Essentially, the suspend was inturrupting the doze. Nothing like a fresh set of eyes to solve a problem. Thanks again Kev. 04-01-2001 08:44:05

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Found a nice FREEware laplink workalike for DOS: FileMaven ( http://www.briggsoft.com/fmdos.htm ) The iOemu software distribution will use this app to allow updates via the parallel port. This was the last software issue in the project, and now only the board remains to be completed. "...I've tried everything I can think of, it MUST be a hardware failure." 04-02-2001 10:32:50

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) hrotb Profile i have the scovery 110 it has internal serial 2 header. the dedicated section talks about a pin out but doesnt give it. i have a programer already but cant figure out how to hook it up to the header. any ideas would be gteat. i bought 2 types of internal serial connector ribbons but neither seem to work. thanks 04-06-2001 09:37:38

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) SteveInNC Profile Creepy... I was just reeducating myself on testing, thought about whether the IO would be a suitable testbed, and low and behold, here's this thread... I'd buy in for a reasonable price. 04-06-2001 10:58:15

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Email me if you might be interested in a PIC microcontroller based, single button 'keyboard' used to 'hit any key'...very useful for a some operations ;) It's a 2.5" long pcb powered by the PS/2 port with a PS/2 on one end, a push button on the other, and a PIC MC which generates the CLK and DATA lines to enter a single key. It's use allows the iOemu (or any EMU) to be exited safely, at the push of the button, and write the .cor without a keyboard attached. Eventually, the code could be enhanced to include multi-key entries, selected by multiple button presses decoded in software. The button sits flush with the bottom of the iO case nearly completely contained within the keyboard connector compartment, out of sight, but easily accessible. 04-23-2001 11:42:28

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) El_Kabong Profile | Email So, did this topic die or move elsewhere? 05-15-2001 22:33:30

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email NEVER say die! Work continues quietly in the background. I'm producing a run of the EMUkeys described above. Email to get on a list for notification of completion. 05-16-2001 13:32:11

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) SteveInNC Profile Whatever happend to the IoEMU board? I was under the impression that you were working on something incorporating the additional serial port and a emu card/Zapulator-type card together. 05-16-2001 22:56:10

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email If that's for me, my design is done...with the exception of a few minor details like the EMUkey...which I'm finishing up. At this point, I have not decided how to proceed, and in what form it may be available. The EMUkey is being offered commercially, though the design and pre-programmed PICs (but not the PIC source code) are available from me. The same may happen with the iOemu board. I've been told there is another group here that is putting together a similar project. Their board may be avialable soon as well. 05-16-2001 23:37:18

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile EMUKey? 05-17-2001 06:38:15

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) Perplexer Profile I think r_fl_z's EmuKEY is the pushbutton which emulates a key press, see above. I ran into a DOS program which lets you use a PS/2 mouse to perform a key press (capital S or capital Q) - email me and I'll send it your way. PS I set up a friend's IO with r_fl_z's dual serial board, and it works silent, cool, and flawlessly for emulation. Wrote DOS and utils to the Sandisk, turned on power management so the backlight turns off after 10 sec. Quite nice!! r_fl_z: I noticed that the header on your serial board does not use a standard pinout (only the included cables work without modification.) What is the reason for this? Thanks! 05-21-2001 11:50:47

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email Perplexer: Alas, there is no such thing as a 'standard RS-232 cable'. The two most popular pinouts use either a logical mapping or a physical mapping of the ribbon cable to the DB-9 pins. The cable used with the our serial board uses a physical mapping. Email me if you need additional pinout data. 05-21-2001 17:06:15

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) Perplexer Profile Yes, I saw this when I compared the two. You should have seen me probing all the pins, recrimping, trying to figure out why it didn't work. Then I pulled the jacket off the DB9 connector. Doh! Lots of us are waiting to hear about the fate of the iOemu project, let us know as soon as it is commercially available 05-21-2001 17:47:32

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z Profile | Email I get a lot of email about the iOemu, so to ease the pressure a bit, here's what's going on with it. As I've mentioned, the software is bundled and ready to go...allowing update via the parallel port. The design of the EMUkey is done, and I'm awaiting PCBs from the manufacturer. I'll hand assemble these, at least for the initial few hundred. The EMUkey interest has been strong, and has supported development into a standalone product independent of the iO. The EMUkey will be reviewed on DR7 soon, and will be available there as well as a couple of other common DTV sites, and usenet soon. As for the iOemu offering, the design is done. However, when and how it will be available is somewhat dependent on the final NetPliance distribution of the remaining iOs. They've not acted in good faith with any of the parties involved in trying to acquire the remaining stock, and until they pull their head out of their arsses and act according to their stated plan, the iOemu offering will likely be delayed. Yes, I realize how frustraiting that is....for ALL of us. Sorry. 05-22-2001 13:54:17

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) Perplexer Profile I'm a little confused with the iOemu offerings; from your last message, it sounds like these will be sold commercially as a plug-and-play emulation package: IO with modem removed, custom serial board, card slot added somewhere to the case, and software preloaded on the Sandisk. Will there be a "serial board/programmer only" for those of us who already own an I-Opener? 05-22-2001 23:02:45

RE:COM ports, COM 1 COM 2 (modified 0 times) SteveInNC Profile Me too . I'm really interested more in a serial card w/builtin EMU/programmer, since I have a couple of IOs already. I realize that previous posts, along with other sources, have given enough info to do this ourselves, however, I'm lazy when I can be . 05-23-2001 10:04:48

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