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TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile Now that the documentation is available for the chipset, we can take a look and see what kind of tft display we should hook up. Hopefully, we can find several or more displays that will work, and hopefully, we can find somewhere online that will sell them for a reasonable price.. Connecting the TFT will either require locating the test pads, or removing the surface mount chip that surface mount chip that supports the DSTN. The TFT does not require the support chip, and we should be able to find some way to utilize the unpopulated location for a TFT connector. 01-30-2001 12:17:30

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Gultig Profile Where would this information be available at? 01-30-2001 13:06:46

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile on fr ee dr ive .com , in the Chipset Datasheets Subdir 501.pdf is northbridge, and it has info about the connection of an LCD 01-30-2001 13:25:57

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Fatal Profile | Email how does one access this #########.com account? 01-30-2001 15:04:30

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Cyberswine Profile go to www. f r e e d r i v e . com. user=iopnener password = iopener. leave out the spaces in the name. added for censor. 01-30-2001 16:00:16

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) boykster Profile | Email May I ask who we have to thank for these datasheets? Anyway, I have some experience with this sort of thing, I'll take a look at the datasheets and see what I can see! I'd sure love to have a tft panel in this baby! Cheers, boykster 01-30-2001 16:52:52

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) numbski Profile I have a few auctions on ebay I'm watching with now. Everything from a 15" TFT down to a 3 inch. :) Since this has a decent liklihood of going into my truck the smaller one might be nice. Then again making a larger case for the 15" wouldn't be too bad either. ;) I'm guessing the lines running into various TFT's aren't at all standardized? I mean even if they aren't the same colors, if we can locate and define what the wires are then does it matter which we use? Numbski 01-31-2001 07:42:08

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile I posted the files; I won't tell where I got them; 01-31-2001 07:45:19

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile Interestingly, we also now have the needed info to hook the IO display up to a computer with a DFP interface. 01-31-2001 07:46:16

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) boykster Profile | Email It will be necessary to acquire the datasheet for the tft panel, so that we can match the power/data/signal/timing lines out of the chipset, into the appropriate lines of the tft panel. And, no, as far as I've seen, there is no standard pin numbering or wire coloring for these babies. Also, finding the correct connector to plug into the panel can be a pain as well (if it doesn't come with the panel). I'm still looking at the datasheet and digesting it.... I've interfaced ebay lcd boards with single board computers before, so I've played the lcd-pin1 to sbc pin 27 game before.... cheers, boykster 01-31-2001 12:14:15

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) numbski Profile I didn't mean they were color coded or anything. :) What I meant was that if we have docs on the TFT, and docs on the video chipset (which we do) then all we have to do is match up lines. No extra components. :) So far as having the right plug, I'm not adverse to just soldering the thing on. :) I know that's not going to make like easy if we have to tear the thing apart, but then that's more incentive to do it right the first time now isn't it? Numbski 01-31-2001 13:39:18

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) boykster Profile | Email I was mostly kidding about the color coding remark...mostly :P I've had ???'s like that before, like "what color wire is g0 on?" I've had pretty good luck with finding the oem connector when I have access to the datasheet for an lcd panel...digikey can be a very good resource...but soldering directly can be the only viable option at times... boykster 01-31-2001 15:29:27

source for connectors? (modified 0 times) DeanBag1 Profile HELP has anyone found a source for the connectors that are used for the original LCD? Do you know the Digikey part no. ? I want to extend the data cable for the lcd. I'd really apreciate some help. 02-20-2001 08:25:04

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile Ok I Picked up this http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1215515799 on ebay.. will commence hacking when it arrives.. it looks like this display should be: Hitachi TX26D80VC1CAA more later 03-02-2001 12:35:24

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) spincycle Profile It seems this account at ######### is dead. Anyone want to email it to me at lawrnk@hotmail.com or tell me an alternate post? Thanks! 03-08-2001 02:28:57

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile I'll be posting the mobo lcd pinout later if my dsl service comes back on. the LCD i Got from ebay is slightly larger than the one that came with the IO, I MAY not be able to get it back together in the IO Case, if not, I'll be on the look for something to make a different case from.. also this evening should time permit, I'll be hacking 2 cables together.. (the lcd cable from the IO and the lcd cable that was hooked to the active matrix display.) with luck, the IO will detect the display type and use it.. without luck, I'm going to have to find some way to let the chipset know which type of LCD it is.. The northbridge apparantly latches in some kind of information about the LCD on reset.. see 501.pdf page 23 03-12-2001 11:26:23

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) starfish Profile For What it's Worth. I have a System @ WORK, that for some reason looses it's BIOS Settings, now & then. It Has BIOS settings for TFT & DSTN (Not Both @ once) I Hope You Don't run into another BIOS Problem. (Not That You can't get aound it !) Sure would be Nice If We could Find a Laptop BIOS for the Same Motherboard, & it had Support for What We Want to Add (Floppy, Boot from CD, TFT) 03-12-2001 17:57:47

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile Snafu.. the IO STN is a 16 bit stn, the TFT I am attempting to use is a 18bit, and I have yet to locate any specific information on mappings between 16bitstn and 18bit tft.. anyway, it'll probably just mean doing some tracing... 03-13-2001 07:03:18

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email Hey anybody notice on http://www.flat-panel.com they have a message under offsite links stating: "This page offering lcd and enclosure upgrades Summer 2001 for the i-opener!" Does this mean they figured out how to get a TFT on them?? 03-16-2001 10:10:16

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) codeman Profile | Email Yes we (earth computers + linux-hacker.net) are working on a 10.4 tft upgrade to the iopener we are working on the bios stuff now the hardware stuff is now that bad. also will have a touch screen controller (fits where modem was) soon. codeman 03-17-2001 18:30:49

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Hey, You guys seen the new Large and very BRITE "order" LCD screen Monolith going thru the Taco Time drive thru,,, Gosh I was drueling all over that....And it wasn't over the pictures of the taco's either. Very sharp picture on it there is... 03-18-2001 06:51:44

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) mdetz Profile Thought the same thing about the wendy's screen last night. Very nice. I hope those things are bolted down good (or do I?) 03-18-2001 11:12:23

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email Damn I was thinking the same thing at The Bell'. Unfortunately, they are open most of the night. So, barring some freak accident where my car plows it over, (with a matress strapped to the hood) I dont think I'll be getting one anytime soon. O2U2, Belive I, a bit of yoda in your speech there is. 03-18-2001 14:48:58

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile 25+ years ago (My teenage school days) one of those Drive thru LCD screen's would of been history there by now... Just a Short story, Back then was really curious about the "New X-Band Police Radar units" in one of the local patrol (Traffic)police cars... Then one night the brand new Radar unit just happened to come up "Missing" while the patrol car was parked in front of the police station. After word got out in school later that week, "A bit of Yoda" became an instant "hero" to all the "driving teens". But, very soon afterwards the Chiefs son, (Who attended that school) relayed a message to his Dad about a "rumor" circulating around school. Came to the old house the Chief did, Embarrassed and real mad that such a thing happened right outside his station house while officers were inside the station. Made them look really bad. After looking around awhile found nothing but a zillion little electronic parts and circuit boards he knew nothing about......No charges was ever pressed BTW Geekness hit me at about age 4 or 5, Started with dissassembling a tiny plastic flashlight and getting the bulb to light without the case. Then progressed to my dad's brand new "Craftsman" drill motor. My mom hid it from him after that...She could not get it back together for me. I just liked to take things apart at that age...nevermind how to get it back together.... I did give a brief thought though...Hmmm, the monolith is held down by 4 bolts...Double Insulated heavy duty greenlee powerline wiremans cutters have I... Nawh, I'm too old for that now...It's just not worth getting into trouble. 03-18-2001 18:33:46

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile As mentioned a while ago, I traced the pinout of the LCD Connector.. Here it is, though without further study, it won't help (much) to hook up a TFT.. IOpener CN2 ----|---------1 01 DL0 02 DL1 03 DL2 04 DL3 05 VSS/Gnd 06 DL4 07 DL5 08 DL6 09 DL7 10 VSS/GND 11 DU0 12 DU1 13 DU2 14 DU3 15 VSS/GND 16 DU4 17 DU5 18 DU6 19 DU7 20 VSS/GND 21 N/C - notch 22 LP/HSYNC 23 YD/VSYNC 24 XCLK 25 VSS/GND 26 VCON (contrast) 27 DISP/ENVEE 28 VDD/3.3V 29 VDD/3.3V 30 VDD/3.3V 03-20-2001 06:43:38

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile BTW there is no support chip as mentioned in the first post of the thread. The DSTN that comes with the IO has this chip integrated into the display rather than seperate. Turbo3: When you get a moment, .. ok an hour.. , I could use test pads associated with PD[0] to PD[23]. AND a mapping between CN2 and the PD[] lines.. Thanks ... 03-20-2001 06:52:18

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) codeman Profile | Email ok i have a tft running the only signals missing from the lcd connector would be b0 b1 but they are easy to get to on the back of the board(test points) also have to hook up pin 21 its DE the lcd i used is a samsung 12.1 800x600 tft Just have some bios stuff left to do the bios i have comes up in 640x480 mode i have to fix that. made a small exe file that will set the 800x600 mode but i still have some timming tweeks to do codeman 03-23-2001 14:02:01

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile Codeman: could you post a map for how you connected the upper and lower 8 bits to r0-r5, g0-g5, b0-b5.. my time is WAY too limited, but I'd like to get a TFT going.. 03-24-2001 08:23:00

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) codeman Profile | Email here is the pinout for both 12 and 18 bit displays TFT PD0 PD1 PD2 PD3 PD4 PD5 PD6 PD7 PD8 PD9 PD10 PD11 PD12 PD13 PD14 PD15 PD16 PD17 PD18 PD19 PD20 PD21 PD22 PD23 12 R3 R2 R1 R0 G3 G2 G1 G0 B3 B2 B1 B0 18 R5 R4 R3 R2 G5 G4 G3 G2 B5 B4 B3 B2 R1 R0 G1 G0 B1 B0 codeman 03-24-2001 10:32:36

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile Thank you kindly.. 03-25-2001 07:41:39

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile I Guess what I really need is a map from the PD[] lines to the DL[] and DU[] lines.. 03-25-2001 12:58:18

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) parasyght Profile | Email I dont want this thread to die. Any updates on the bios hack, or adding the tft in general? 04-03-2001 21:46:37

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile The information that Codeman left, while useful, doesn't advance us(me) any farther in this project. what is needed is something that correlates the Panel Data Lines to the existing configuration. It is possible to just assume that DL0-7 are PD0-7 and DU0-7 are PD8-15 , but I haven't yet had the opportunity to attempt to try it out. well.. I just stumbled across this http://www.national.com/ds/CS/CS9211.pdf which has the needed mappings which gives us this: IOpener CN2 ----|---------1 01 G4 02 G5 03 R0 04 R1 05 VSS/Gnd 06 R2 07 R3 08 R4 09 R5 10 VSS/GND 11 B2 12 B3 13 B4 14 B5 15 VSS/GND 16 G0 17 G1 18 G2 19 G3 20 VSS/GND 21 N/C - notch 22 LP/HSYNC 23 YD/VSYNC 24 XCLK 25 VSS/GND 26 VCON (contrast) 27 DISP/ENVEE 28 VDD/3.3V 29 VDD/3.3V 30 VDD/3.3V This plus the signal information for your 18 bit TFT is all you need to add a TFT to your IO (missing 2 bits of blue though.) It should be detected by the chipset, though it will likely start you up in the same screen mode it does now (640x480) and it may not expand it automatically as the IO screen does. 04-04-2001 06:57:03

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) parasyght Profile | Email What would the 18bit missing the 2bits of blue look like attached to the io? would the color just be a little off, or would it be a noticeable strain on your eyes? Are there any 16bit tft's that could be spliced to pinouts you listed without the bios hack for more mem support? thanks parasyght, looking forward to a bigger screen. 04-04-2001 10:13:22

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile the color difference missing the lowest 2 bits should be unnoticable. blue 0 - 3 == 0 ; 4 - 7 == 4; ... basically you just get 64 shades of blue instead of 256 all color tft screens I've seen have had an equal number of bits per color.; 12, 15, 18, 24 using a TDMS transmitter/reciever pair, you can have normal 16 bit color. Any 18 bit TFT with the right voltage/signals should work. You can do 1024x768x16 bit with 2MB of video ram.. 04-06-2001 07:17:32

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) friar Profile I'm such a moocher and I really apologize, but I was wondering if anyone out there had found any good deal$ on a TFT screen for the IO? Either 'new' or something scavenged from say, a laptop? Any specific suggestions? 04-08-2001 10:16:02

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email Check Ebay, theres usually between 4-5 TFT 10.4" screens on there a week. If not, check out http://www.flat-panel.com they have pricey screens, but then again they are usually brand new. 04-08-2001 16:14:00

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) friar Profile Mmmmmmm This looks very do-able, even for a neophite like me, thanks! 04-09-2001 11:26:05

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) hayfever Profile | Email This isn't a direct TFT question, but something you guys may be able to help me with. I just got a V5 iopener with an LCD that has some bad sections in it. Is there a TFT direct swap-in that is affordable, or does anyone have the Hitachi dual-scan from their V5 they could sell cheap? I bought the V5 for $55, and I have a $125 budget on the full conversion. Hayden 04-25-2001 14:28:29

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) parasyght Profile | Email a while back somebody asked for the digikey number for the lcd cable part that connects to iopeners pcb, but nobody responded. I need to make a cable to go from a tft to the iopener but i dont want to cut appart my original cable to do it, i would rather buy the parts. So, -what is the digikey(or another company) number for the part that connects the cable to iopener mobo? -what kind of wires do i need to attach to it? I already found the connectors that fits my tft. -I wish i knew more about this stuff, funny thing is im learning more about this stuff. parasyght 04-25-2001 23:28:14

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile umm.. when you find out, could you let the rest of us know???? :) 04-26-2001 06:10:40

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) * StarFish * Profile Someone might want to Ask this Member ? I-Opener General Posts / Extending the LCD cable "AsidX" You Know Me, I would just Bust him for Not Sharing !!! 04-26-2001 08:20:08

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) space Profile | Email since so many are replacing their passive LCD with a TFT one, anyone have a passive to sell. A friend's iOpener had an unfortunate accident. Please email to space@cyberscope.net 05-08-2001 21:22:13

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email Okay so what's the situation with this LCD replacement? Did anyone finally get a TFT screen in their I-opener and actually get it to work properly? 05-09-2001 06:49:43

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile Codeman has, mine is sitting 3/4 way finished waiting for me to have time.. though the screen I got does not physically fit in the IO. 05-09-2001 07:44:05

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email Programmer, What type of screen is needed? I mean has an 18 bit TFT been mapped to the LCD connector? Will any old TFT function with the I-o? 05-09-2001 08:01:26

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile 16 of the 18 bits map to the IO connector; in fact, that information is in this thread. as near as I can tell, virtually any tft will work. It may not work with 5v tfts but, then again it might. 05-11-2001 06:30:53

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) mp3boombox Profile | Email ok this is just the slightest teenest bit off topic BUT. Seeing as how the info on the video chip has been released for pinouts. Why doesnt someone who know's codeing and or hardware see if they can get the so called hardware exceleration that the cyberblade i7 GPU has enabled and running. I'd love to have the thing running with hardware d3d and GL. would rock my world to bring my iopener to a lan party. Granted its not the most powerful system but HELL 550mhz k6-3 and a 3D card. its enuf to do some decent gaming. i mean even 32fps would do me grand. Not to mention you cant play DVD'S even in software on the IO due to something that the video card is not supporting??? what exactly that is i dont know, I believe its hardware overlays?? I realy dont know. 05-13-2001 19:27:23

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) HiRez Profile I'm sorry if this question has been asked 3,000,000 times before. I didn't see the answer, so I just might get a flame-o-gram back... Does anyone know of a ISA, PCI or AGP card that supports our friend the LM100SS1T522 ? Yes I did a Google search for Cyberblade, Video Card, LM100SS1T522, and a few other combinations... no luck... Any Thoughts??? Good Friends Help You Move, Real Friends Help You Move Bodies. 05-16-2001 09:45:16

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) * StarFish * Profile FLAME ON !!! (just kidding) Look Here, http://www.flat-panel.com/iopener.htm Last I checked they were $200 !!! 05-16-2001 10:02:09

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile just find a video card with a dvi/dfp connector; from there you need a SIL141 TDMS demultiplexer (http://www.siimage.com), and power for the backlight and display. Best Buy sells a radeon dual monitor card for $99 one of the connectors on it is dvi. there are more video cards out there that are suitable, and I'll assume that some are less expensive. some of the older ATI cards also have the same connector. 05-16-2001 12:49:59

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) boykster Profile | Email Anyone else have any success to report on this front? I have found a suitable "donor" laptop, with a nice shiny 12" tft screen that I have the spec sheet and backlight inverter for, and I've got connectors on order from DigiKey. I'll probably be giving it a go this weekend, I was just curious if anyone else has their experiences to share with this "upgrade". FYI I'm working with a LT121SS-105 from Samsung, that has a Hirose DF9-41P-1V connector (mates with DF9-41S-1V for cable) that is available from DigiKey. I wasn't able to find out what the connector on the board for the lcd is, so I'm considering adding another connector set inline (to allow swapping the original back if I screw it up?) using a Hirose DF9-31P/S-1V set...nice and small with nice tabs avail for soldering connections to. Cheers, boykster 08-01-2001 16:00:15

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile my cable is still sitting half finished in the basement.. :) Putting a connector in line is a good idea.. (I used an IDE header on a perf board, got interrupted by life while in the middle of soldering..) 08-02-2001 07:27:35

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email Okay this is sorta weird... Bumping this thread up again for some help. I got a 10.4" TFT LCD so I could play around with hooking it into a friends I-opener. Now the weird thing is its an NEC #NL8060Bc26-12 but I can only find refrences to a NL8060Bc26-17? Okay I thought maybe the part no. was a typo in the auction, no biggie. But the LCD itself has that part no. printed on the back. So i went ahead and grabbed the datasheet off of NEC's site for the -17 model. Im guessing they are near-the-same display. Id appreciate any help regarding this mod, especially the datasheets for the northbridge chip and the I-o DSTN (v5) Calling Codeman, Programmer, boykster.... 08-30-2001 20:42:46

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Programmer Profile Everything you should need is in this thread.. Most important for you is the message with the pinouts for the 18bit tft (minus 2 bits of blue) There are only 16 bits available on the internal header and the 2 bits from 18 that go missing happen to be blue. That and the datasheet for your TFT should be all you need. If you have any specific questions, please don't hesitate to ask. 08-31-2001 07:33:41

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) boykster Profile | Email GWIZAH, I have one piece of advice that adds to what Programmer said....don't hesistate to ask NEC for the datasheet. Try here... http://www.necel.com/web/Support/litrequestframe.html I requested a datasheet for an OLD OLD OLD 10.4 panel (a year or so ago for something else) and was flabbergasted by the level of service I received. For "Target Application" I put prototyping of system, and in comments I put the part# datasheet I was looking for. A couple of days later in my email inbox was a pdf of the datasheet....and a week later I had a hardcopy that had been mailed to me. Give it a shot, it might work. You could also mention that you have xxxxxx-12 panel, and that you can only find xxxxx-17 datasheet and see if they can verify that the other datasheet will work. Cheers and good luck boykster ps...my cable is now only 1/2 finished....still no tft for me :( 08-31-2001 15:13:21

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email Thanks guys! Nice to see the whole TFT mod squad is still around :) Boykster, I just sent a lit. request to NEC, Heres hoping *crosses fingers* I'll keep you guys updated, going to get parts from digikey next week. BTW, Programmer you mentioned a "TDMS transmitter/reciever pair" What exactly did you mean by that? 08-31-2001 16:34:51

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email Okay, Maybe old news... But here's links to the Datasheet for the v5 (Hitachi SX25S004, assuming most ppl have v5's) screen, along with Connectors for the Backlight and LCD cable: LCD datasheet LCD cable male not on a PCB...Yipes! Backlight connector 08-31-2001 18:58:24

TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Mach3 Profile | Email I've been going over every thread I can find on this TFT issue and one question keeps coming to mind; How sure are we that the video chips on this motherboard can drive a color TFT? Now before you fireup your flame throwers, I ask this because I cannot find a single instance of anyone actually having accomplished it. I know that codeman made a statement to that effect earlier in this thread (thus the reason for picking this thread) but he also proceeded to itemize what he "Thought" he had left to do before it would work. Other than a some pin number he has not provided any real response to any question that onyone has asked since. Now I'm not knocking codeman, his contributions herein are vast and I admire him a great deal. I merely suspect that since this is nolonger a hobby, but rather a business to him, that the cost / benefit equation dictated he allocate his resources elsewhere. With that in mind we are left with the question; Can the video chips drive a color TFT panel? and if so; Does it need to be configured differently than the way it is presently configured for driving the present DSTN screen. Has anybody seen a realworld piece of hardware that uses the same video chip to drive a TFT screen? If so can you share photos for detail analysis purposes? As most of you have surmized by now, I do not have a copy of the spec for the video chip as yet either. 02-04-2002 17:10:03

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile Mach3: Here is a quote from page 3-5 of the Cyberblade i7 Technical Reference Manual 3.2.11 Flat Panel Interface The CyberBlade i7 flat panel interface is designed to support industry standard TFT and DSTN panels. The Flat Panel interface can also be used to drive external LVDS or PanelLink TM transmitters. The high performance VGA Controller provides full hardware level VGA compatibility. At reset, the CyberBlade i7 is in hardware level VGA mode and all of the standard VGA subsections (Display Controller, VGA Graphics Controller, and Attribute Controller) are enabled. The CyberBlade i7 supports LVDS and PanelLink TM, providing a low voltage, high speed, low EMI, serial DC-balanced differential data to the LCD panel. The flat panel interface provides or supports the following functions for various panels: · Generates flat panel interface signals like FLM, LP, SCLK, and DE · Generates different video data formats to directly drive different types of panels · Vertical and horizontal expansion of video displays to LCD panel resolution · Vertical and horizontal centering · Panel power sequence There is no doubt in my mind that the i-Opener can be modified to drive a TFT panel. It is just a matter of the right person spending significant hours coming up with the mod. I'm sure that someday someone will do it. I'll even go so far to guess that it has already been done. The problem is doing it in a manner that doesn't violate all sorts of copyright laws. Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 02-04-2002 20:42:42

TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Mach3 Profile | Email Glitch Can you post a link to the spec please. Also, what copyright laws are we treading close to here? 02-05-2002 13:27:57

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) Glitch Profile A link to the spec sheets was posted in the "TFT Software" thread. I'm pretty sure that the copyright issues were also discussed in a previous thread (not necessarily related to TFT's). Generally speaking, most of us aren't licensed to reverse engineer or distribute Award BIOS's (i.e. the path of least resistance for TFT success). I recall a discussion of the subtleties of getting around the licensing restrictions, but I can't recall the details. There are others here that know much more about this than me. I'm pretty sure if you spend some more time with the search engine that you will find the answers to your questions. Glitch Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work 02-05-2002 14:25:50

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile This may be of interest to someone... http://www.jenlogix.co.nz/products/lcd-kit03.htm 02-28-2002 13:58:57

RE:TFT Screen (modified 0 times) hwhack Profile Yeah, to the 2 people in New Zealand who hack! And, you have to have a login/pswd to get a price quote...geez! 03-12-2002 10:39:05

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