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RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150

New MessageRS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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For those of you interested in adding a touchscreen to the i-opener, I've found a great deal on built-in touch screens. You can buy a 10.4" touchscreen complete with RS232 controller for $140 + $10 shipping from Touch Screens Inc:

Phone: 800-753-2441 - ask for Scott
http://www.touchwindow.com/index.htm
Item: OneTouch internal 10.4" touchscreen with RS232 interface

Their web site isn't too great. It's better just to call to place your order.

More details:

- I just ordered mine today, so I can't say for sure it works. But based on my research, I don't see a problem - I'll keep everyone posted.

- The screen itself is 235x182x2mm which will fit nicely inside the case. It will require some trimming of the inner edge of the gray frame that fits around the display. But I measured and there is about 2mm of plastic that can be trimmed away to make room for the 2mm thick touchscreen.

- The controller is RS232 and runs on 5v. The controller comes in a little plastic case. But the controller circuit board can be removed and, according to the description Scott gave me, should fit easily inside the i-opener case.

- The touchscreen is resistive - that's the cheapest touchscreen technology. But from what I understand, it still works really well. An added bonus to resistive touchscreens is you can use a stylus for more precision. That should help with programs like Winamp that have super-tiny buttons.

For more information, there's a really good post describing how to add a touch screen to the i-opener. The directions in this post should apply directly to the OneTouch screen:

http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=verytech&Post=21&Idle=&Sort=&Order=&Page=&Session=

02-06-2001 15:20:50

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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http://www.touchwindow.com/index.htm

http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=verytech&Post=21&Idle=&Sort=&Order=&Page=&Session=

02-06-2001 15:24:18

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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Great price. Ordered one today.
02-07-2001 16:10:41

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) Fatal
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What is the SKU# or is it just tell them what you want and they'll know?
Also the touchscreen is just a piece of glass, right? So how much area on the i-opener is there once this is installed that is just the piece of glass without the lcd screen under it? Does this area of just glass then just provide a cool little frame showing the back of the mobo?
02-07-2001 18:06:07

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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I don't have a SKU# (sorry). You can just tell them you want a OneTouch internal 10.4" touchscreen with RS232 interface and they will know what it is - especially if you talk to Scott and tell him you're using it in an i-opener.

The touchscreen is just a piece of glass about 2mm thick and slightly bigger than the i-opener LCD display. It will sit on top of the LCD but under the plastic frame on the front of the i-opener. Once installed you shouldn't be able to tell it's there.

02-07-2001 18:32:06

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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I got my touchscreen today (yay!). When studying the connections I was going to have to make in order to interface the controller to the i-opener I realized there is a complication. Standard RS232 uses +12v on the Tx and Rx lines. But the i-opener COM ports are TTL and expect +5v on these lines. Sure I've read all the posts about serial port daughter boards and I've worked with RS232 in the past, but somehow the discrepancy never hit me until I thought about making the actual connections to the touchscreen controller.

Fortunately there is an easy work-around to this problem. The controller has two chips on it. The first one is the touchscreen microcontroller. The second one is an LT1381 RS232 line driver. I haven't tried this yet (it's late now). But I believe it will be a simple process to remove the line driver and connect the i-opener directly to the +5v TTL COM signals on the microcontroller.

The LT1381 data sheet can be found at http://www.linear-tech.com/prod/datasheet.html?datasheet=68

It may also be possible to buy a version of controller without the line driver chip (one of the manuals eluded to this possibility).

02-13-2001 22:55:43

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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wkoehler55:
Good to hear you received your panel, mine is on backorder. Keep in mind that the LT1381 is an inverting driver that will require logic inversion (easily done, of course) for the signal path. How's the fit?
02-13-2001 23:21:10

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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r_fl_z:

The fit looks good. The glass fits nicely into the i-opener. The controller board is small and fits inside easily as well. I'm really happy with everything so far.

I hooked the touchscreen up to a desktop PC just to see how well it worked. The drivers that come with the touchscreen are *really* nice and I had the device up and running very quickly. My only petty qualm is although the screen responds to a light touch when clicking buttons, it takes quite a bit of pressure from my finger to drag an item across the screen. If I don't press hard I end up dropping the item along the way. I played with the touch sensitivity settings, but they didn't seem to help. Using a stylus, it was a lot easier to drag items, but still required more pressure than I expected. (Maybe this is just the way touchscreens behave?) Other than that, the screen works great. It is very responsive and easy to use.

Thanks for the heads-up. I saw that the LT1381 has inverters on the line drivers. But that's actually good because the serial logic on the i-opener is inverted (in relation to the RS232 standard). This means that the touchscreen microcontroller and the i-opener serial ports should be "in phase" and connect together without any additional logic.

Hopefully I'll get a chance to try this evening.

02-14-2001 09:10:37

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) hamilton
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What other chips are on the interface board?
02-14-2001 09:25:00

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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There are only two chips on the controller board, the microcontroller and the RS232 line driver.

I talked with Scott at Touch Screens Inc. He said there is currently not a version of the controller that uses 5v logic on the Tx/Rx lines instead of 12v logic. However he said if there is enough interest the manufacturer would modify the controller for us and remove the line driver. It sounded like "enough interest" would mean about 50 to 100 people. So for now anyone who wants to use this controller with the i-opener will have to remove the line driver chip themselves. Looking at the solder connections, removing the line driver won't be a big deal. The solder points are not nearly as small as the solder points required to make the line-out mods or the CPU mods.

02-14-2001 12:26:45

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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OK, It took two evenings instead of one, but my thoroughness paid off. The touch screen worked perfectly the first time I plugged it in! Here's the scoop:

1. Ignore all the technical documentation that comes on the CD. The controller that came with my touchscreen was different than all of the various controllers covered in the documentation.

2. Pull off the power connector with the bare red and black wires. You won't need it. There is also a black chassis ground wire with a little metal ring at the end. You don't need it so desolder it or just cut it off.

3. You will need to modify the controller's serial logic to work with the i-opener. The controller uses RS232 level voltages but the i-opener expects TTL level (5v) signals. The i-opener's Tx and Rx lines are also inverted logically compared to the controller's RS232 Tx and Rx lines. Luckily this is a really easy mod. All you need to do is bypass the RS232 line driver chip on the touchscreen controller. The serial Tx and Rx lines coming out of the touchscreen's microcontroller are exactly what the i-opener needs.

You don't need to remove the line driver chip to bypass it. I made a total mess of things removing the chip (pulled up three pads and parts of two traces) only to learn that I could have gotten away with simply cutting 4 traces. So learn from my mistake and leave the line driver chip in it's place.

The line driver is a LT1381 http://www.linear-tech.com/prod/datasheet.html?datasheet=68. You'll need to look at the datasheet and study the board to make sense of these directions (sorry I don't have a camera to post pictures). Cut the traces leading to pins 7,8,9,10 of the LT1381. These traces are pretty easy to find. You will probably need a multi-meter though because some traces run under the chip and cannot be followed visually. Once you've cut the traces, connect a jumper wire from the trace that went to pin 7 to the trace that went to pin 10 (bypassing the LT1381 Tx driver). Connect a second jumper wire from the trace that went to pin 8 to the trace that went to pin 9 (bypassing the Rx driver). After this mod is complete, pins 7,8,9,10 of the LT1381 should connect to nothing. The easiest way to connect the jumper wires is to find a via hole along the trace, poke a wire-wrap wire through the hole, and solder it. You will need to lightly scrape the protective coating off the via hole on the bottom of the board to make a contact point for the solder.

Great! now the controller board is ready to go. We just need to connect it to the i-opener.

4. Cut the DB9 end off of the COM cable leaving enough wire to run from CN12 to where you will mount the controller board. I know, it pained me too, cutting such a nice cable, but it has to be done. Strip the outer rubber tube and shield braid off the wire freeing the inner colored wires. You will only need 4 wires, the Blue (5v), Orange (Gnd), Red (Rx), and Brown (Tx). You can remove the extra wires by lifting the tabs on the Molex connector and pulling the wires out. It's a really screwy color scheme and I don't trust it to stay consistent so for a sanity check: on the Molex connector Blue is pin 9, Orange pin 5, Red pin 3, Brown pin 2. Pin 1 on the Molex connector has a square solder pad.

Run the 4 COM cable wires to CN12 in the i-opener as follows:

Blue - pin 10 (+5v)
Orange - pin 9 (gnd)
Brown - pin 2 (connects controller's Tx to i-opener's Rx)
Red - pin 1 (connects controller's Rx to i-opener's Tx)

Don't have anything handy to connect to the CN12 header? I came up with a solution that worked pretty well. Strip about 4mm from the end of each of the colored wires. Next get a piece of slightly bigger wire (22 awg worked perfectly) and strip 8mm sections of insulation off. Push a piece of the 22awg insulation onto the end of each colored wire, until the bare end of the colored wire just pokes out of the 22awg insulation. You can now press the newly insulated end of each colored wire over a pin of CN12. The 22awg insulation will grip the pin and hold the bare end of the wire in contact.

That's it! Turn on the i-opener and install the touchscreen drivers. If you want to verify that the panel is working, you can use HyperTerminal at 9600 baud. Each time you touch the touchscreen, you will get a bunch of "garbage" characters in HyperTerminal.

NOTE: I learned tonight that there is a "top" and "bottom" of the touchscreen. With the touch side up, the control cable should come out of the right side of the screen. If you try to use the screen upside-down, the calibration won't work.

02-15-2001 22:53:27

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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I forgot. Just for reference, my touchscreen controller is a "Onetouch 2K-B".
02-15-2001 23:07:48

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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wkoehler55:

I finally got my touch screen. What a find, I love it. How about that touch screen keyboard package they offer?

My installation went like this. Cut the DB9 connector off, replace with a female 10 pin DIP, plug directly to one of the 10 pin headers on the RS232 DaughterBoard, with power from the extra power posts on the DaughterBoard, and I'm golden.

I'm curious, where did you mount the TS board within the iO?

02-16-2001 02:43:38

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) YouBecha
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Wow I really need to get one now!

r_fl_z, did you also disable the line driver?


http://www.geocities.com/mr_bubba_zanetti/
02-16-2001 06:58:01

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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YouBecha:
r_fl_z has a special RS232 daughter board that he designed in his i-opener. It provides a standard RS232 interface with all the right line levels, ect. See (http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=technical&Post=1918&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0) for details on this board. So r_fl_z didn't need to do any mods to the touchscreen controller. If you don't have a RS232 daughter board like this in the i-opener, then you need to follow my directions above to interface the touchscreen.
02-16-2001 07:29:31

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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wkoehler55:

Correct...I used my DaughterBoard. It's convenient that it has a spare power source available on board (in addition to the fan). Your's is an excellent hack, btw, mucho thanko for the heads up on the touch screen. I've been surveying the market for quite some time for one. Do you plan a touch screen keyboard?

02-16-2001 14:29:05

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) mdetz
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http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=verytech&Post=21&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=

One of the messages mentions win2000 having a built-in touchscreen keyboard. Is this true? I have win2k, but haven't installed it yet.

02-16-2001 15:38:38

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Win2k OS has an "on screen" keyboard. Not sure if it's "touch screen" compatable though???... I've played with it briefly using the mouse pointer...
02-16-2001 16:08:31

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) GWIZAH
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I belive that the touchscreen keyboard in win2000 isnt really designed for Touchscreen use. Its pretty limited. If you wanna get a nice touchscreen keyboard check this link...http://www.imgpresents.com/demo.htm

They have keyboards and utilities for touchscreen use.

02-16-2001 16:10:28

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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I found several pop-up keyboard options:

http://www.netshift.com/index.asp?s=pr&ss=ke&prosec=ko
http://vbbuslnx1.tc.cc.va.us/~g1200s/honeycom.zip - Kind of cheesy but it's free
http://www.touchscreens.com/keyboard.shtml - The best one, but it also costs quite a bit of money.

None of these really impress me though. I am using my i-opener as an MP3 player on my home stereo, so I will probably not use an on-screen keyboard. I can build playlists remotely and send them over the network to the i-opener when needed.

02-16-2001 16:24:16

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) SwankyDoodle
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I'm going to order one of these touchscreens shortly (for use with r_fl_z's rs232 daughterboard [THANKS r_fl_z and BadFlash]), and am wondering: What do you all think about protecting or cleaning the touchscreen? Would a slightly damp cloth clean it, or are there directions that come with it saying otherwise? What about a clear cover, ala PalmPilots' Write Rights and stuff like that?
02-17-2001 18:51:37

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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The physical mounting of the screen into the i-opener was a bit more difficult than I thought. Although now that I finally got it inside and the whole thing back together, it looks great. You would think the touchscreen has always been there.

Basically the difficulty came because the corners of the touchscreen pushed against the front of the i-opener's plastic case causing the case to bulge slightly when I tried to screw it closed. I was afraid this pressure would warp the touchscreen or cause false touches. I ended up grinding away the case in the corners where the touchscreen contacted it to make room for the glass. This turned out to be a real pain because I did it all with an exacto knife and it took forever. (I learned the next day that my roommate owns a dremel tool - doh!). I also removed some plastic from the inside lip of the display frame so there was a small air gap between the touchscreen and the frame. I used a bit of clear tape to hold the touchscreen glass in place on the i-opener's display during the whole process.

Mounting the controller board was a snap. Just above the modem are two mounting posts from the original heatsink that are spaced perfectly for the screw holes in the controller board. I just got some nylon washers and standoffs and mounted it on those posts. Because of the height at which I mounted my controller I had to trim the jumper header on the controller board to prevent it from shorting on the RF shield when the case was reassembled.

r_fl_z: How did your screen assembly go?

02-18-2001 13:34:48

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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wkoehler55:
Good info on your reassembly. I have yet to close my unit, so I have no useful data at this time...will post when available.

I'm curious, why didn't you use all of the serial lines used on the connector?

Any speculation on the function of the on-board jumpers? Likely for compatibility with other versions/sizes of panels, though possibly they'd allow user selectable scan resolutions. I've been too busy to look into the microcontroller chip used...anyone else done it?

02-18-2001 14:18:56

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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I traced all the serial lines and I believe only Tx and Rx are needed. The hardware handshaking lines CTS and RTS didn't appear to be used. Tracing back from the DB9 on the serial cable, CTS was tied to +12v (essentially saying "I'm always ready" to the computer). RTS wasn't connected. The other various lines (DTS, DSR, DCD) are almost never used in serial links and I can't imagine that the touchscreen controller would have a use for them.

I tried moving the jumper on the controller board thinking it might be a baud rate selection. Moving the jumper to position 2 or 4, the controller didn't work at all - at any baud rate. I didn't try any others. I'm guessing the jumper might select the interface type (USB, PS/2, serial) or the touchscreen type (resistive, capacitive, etc.)

I recently noticed a bad spot on my screen. Normally the cursor follows my stylus very closely (within 3mm or so). But there is one spot on the screen about 3cm x 3cm where the cursor drifts pretty far away from the stylus. The behavior of the cursor is consistent but it makes it really hard to select items in that area of the screen since you have to click visibly below the item to select it. Has anyone else noticed bad spots like this? I'm going to call the manufacturer next week and see what they have to say about it.

02-18-2001 17:04:49

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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Another idea to make room for mounting the touchscreen glass:

The i-opener display is held to the i-opener with a screw and standoff at each corner. It looks like there's about 1-2mm of space behind the display. I can't think of any reason for this space since both the back of display and the front of the i-opener are a solid sheets of aluminum. It would probably be easy to use different standoffs or file down the standoffs and eliminate this gap making room for the touchscreen glass.

02-18-2001 20:07:25

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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I talked to Scott at Touch Screens Inc. about the bad spot on my touchscreen and he's having a new screen shipped out to me today - I love great customer service!

Scott still sounds very interested in customizing the touchscreen for the i-opener. If there is enough interest, he can have the controller and cables modified so it would drop right into the i-opener without modifications. "Enough interest" probably means about 100 people.

02-19-2001 14:07:01

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) deadbolt
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Someone mentioned that the drivers were very nice. Is there any worry about future updates or compatibility say with whistler or with W2000.
02-19-2001 15:07:33

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) Fatal
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any pictures of the assembley anyone can post up?
02-19-2001 15:16:23

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) SwankyDoodle
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deadbolt, check out http://www.touchwindow.com/drivers.htm . There's a Win2K driver for most of their products.
02-19-2001 19:07:58

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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Fatal:
I don't have a digital camera to take pictures - sorry.

All:
If there is a lot of interest in photos, I will try and borrow a camera from someone. Let me know. Or if someone else who has done the mods and can post photos, that would be great.

In regard to the driver: The command set used by the Onetouch 2K-B controller is also used by a lot of other touchscreen systems, so driver support will probably continue to be really good. The current driver supports 95, 98, NT, 2000, & ME. The drivers that came with my touchscreen (TouchWare 5.53) can be found at http://www.microtouch.com/mthtml/05a1_drivers.htm I don't know if these are the same drivers that SwankyDoodle found at touchwindow.com.

02-19-2001 21:13:42

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) akelley
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wkoehler55, I would be interested in a modified version of the touchscreen. I don't know how many others would be, but I think we'll be hard pressed to get the 100 minimum for them to modify the touchscreen for easy "plug and play" use with our IOs.

It does seem a bit tricky to me, from reading these posts. I think I'll wait a bit to see other's experiences before I try to install one myself.

So anyway, if anyone is keeping track, or keeping a list of interested people, you can add me to it.

Thanks.

02-20-2001 07:00:12

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) SwankyDoodle
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I just ordered one of these puppies. I may get hooked and outfit my laptop too. :)
Hey r_fl_z, any word on the serial boards yet? Just curious... I've got so many different parts coming in for my IO that I don't know what's coming when anymore!
02-20-2001 13:48:22

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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Swankey:

I've got the finished production pcbs in hand now. They look great. Awaiting the return of the boards from the assembly facility. Soon. Very soon :)

02-20-2001 16:37:39

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) cb4800
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I would love to get one that was made for the iopener.
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02-25-2001 18:41:02

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) SwankyDoodle
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I just got my touchscreen. This is one of the coolest components I've ever bought! This company might make a whole lot more money off of me in the near future ;)
02-27-2001 13:05:27

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) SwankyDoodle
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r_fl_z: You said that you get power from a header on your daughterboard when you installed your touchscreen. Are the bare leads on the wires from the controller for powering the board? If so, and if you use them, you don't have to use the PS/2 port for power, right? (I'm not electrically inclined, so these may be stupid questions, but it's better to find out and not fry the puppy :)
02-27-2001 13:25:18

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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SwankyDoodle: You are correct. If you use the bare red and black wires for power then you don't need to connect the PS/2 port power cable. Make sure the red wire goes to +5v.
02-27-2001 13:36:50

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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Can the folks who have this TS working kindly post what driver/os they are using? Scott (the vendor) and I are both confused as to what driver should ship with the product. My install floppy says v6.03, and the website has several available. Thanks for your efforts.
03-07-2001 12:33:07

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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My touchscreen came with a CD that had drivers and documentation. None of the documentation applied to my touchscreen, but the driver works fine. Some of the advanced driver features, such as cursor stabilization and linearization, don't appear to work though. The drivers (TouchWare 5.53) can be found at http://www.microtouch.com/mthtml/05a1_drivers.htm
03-07-2001 14:12:08

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) SwankyDoodle
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Mine came with a driver/doc CD like wkoehler said. Mine says "July 2000" on it, and has TouchWare 5.51 on it. When the autorun program runs, it says something to the effect of "MicroTouch releases new drivers all the time. Contact your MicroTouch dealer for the latest." Of course, you can just go to the website wkoehler mentioned and get the latest (version 5.61).
03-08-2001 12:15:04

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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Thanks guys. It's working fine now with the MicroTouch drivers.
03-08-2001 19:34:07

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) ButtonPuncher
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Wow, this looks GREAT!! But, will it work at the same time with a mouse? I would like to use the touchscreen in my car and plug a mouse (PS2) in at home. KNOWHUTIMEAN?

Thanks in advance.

03-08-2001 21:41:41

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) Knull
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I have a camera, posted really fast earlier and just will have to get the drivers online and also saw it is that version. I can email the pictures to anyone who has done the hack and would like to edit them showing where to hook everything up. I will then post them on my website giving you full credit for the hack, if you do not have a site. If I have time I will read through the hack tomorrow and post pictures of finished hack. Kn
03-08-2001 23:15:10

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) Knull
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Here are some quick pictures of the circuit board. There is no hack on it yet. They where added very quicky so that someone hopefully wkoehler55 could save and edit them, then post them on their site or let me know and I will post them. Thanks kn http://rippedopener.homestead.com/pictures.html\
03-08-2001 23:47:54

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) Knull
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http://www.rippedopener.homestead.com/pictures.html/
03-08-2001 23:50:11

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) Knull
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http://www.rippedopener.homestead.com/pictures.html Must have put the wrong slash so just copy and paste this one. Sorry for all the mess ups just really tired.Kn
03-08-2001 23:54:07

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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yup, works fine with usb and serial mouse
03-09-2001 00:54:25

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) SwankyDoodle
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How are you all looking at mounting the TS? I see wkoehler's concern about the "lip" around the edge of the front casing, but with or without that lip, the TS still is smaller than the area it sits in. Would simple double-sided tape be okay or might that hurt the screen? What about some sticky-tack stuff?

Oh, I guess I should add that my screen really hasn't moved too much (if at all) since letting it sit freely between the front casing and the LCD, but I'm just worried since I'll be moving the IO a lot (it's a travellin' machine).

03-09-2001 05:34:09

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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Knull:
Weird, your controller board is different than mine. The RS232 driver chip is in a different location! It looks like the same basic design though. All the connectors are in the same place. I can't tell from the photo, does it use a LT1381 RS232 line driver chip? The mod I described should still work fine. But I won't be able to indicate any points to cut traces on this board since the traces are in different locations. I will still be happy to help however I can. Please post follow-up questions and we will get your touchscreen working.

ButtonPuncher:
The touchscreen works simultaneously with any type of mouse (PS/2, serial, USB)

SwankyDoodle:
I removed the lip around the edge of the front casing by default before I even began mounting the touchscreen. It turns I could have left most of that lip in place since there is now tons of room between the screen and the edge of the frame. My main problem with the touchscreen mounting was the corners of the touchscreen pushed into the front of the case causing it to bow out slightly when you screwed everything shut. Did you have similar problems? I had to grind away the case in the areas that contacted the touchscreen corners.

I used a small piece of clear "packing" tape on each edge of the touchscreen to hold it in place on the display. Once the case is reassembled, the pressure on the corners of the screen should also keep it from moving.

03-09-2001 08:41:08

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wkoehler55: This is how things usually goes for me, always getting something different.:) Anyway the U2 chip reads: ADM3202ARN
0019
I15578 >
The arrow is the direction the white box with a black triangle is pointing. There is not a mark or dip on the chip indicating top. Here is what I have so far.:
---|----|--->this pin traces to red wire on the 9 pin connect
---| |--->this one to the brown wire on the 9 pin connect
---| ^|---
---| |---
---| |---
---| |---
jA(-)lead<---| |---
jA(+)lead<---|----|---
Will post more as I get it. Your help would be great. The up arrow on my shoty drawing shows the direction of the black triangle. Thanks Kn
03-09-2001 10:15:31

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Knull:
I did some research. The ADM3202 is a RS232 line driver. It is identical to the LT1381 that is on my controller. So you can probably follow my mod instructions verbatim (the chip has two line drivers and it's possible that on your controller they use the first line driver instead of the second one). You can get a data sheet for your chip at http://products.analog.com/products/info.asp?product=ADM3202

I'm surprised there's not a marker for the top of the chip. If you really can't find one, you can always orient yourself by finding the +5v lead (following a trace or using an ohmmeter).

03-09-2001 11:39:27

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wkoehler55: Yea I was surprised to about the marker also. I found the 5v and ground pins 15 and 16. 16 went to the empty slot(not the red wire like in that sucky drawing I did early) on the 9 pin connect and 15 went to to the orange wire on the 9 pin connect. Does this follow you finding on your board? Thanks for the link. Kn
03-09-2001 12:38:08

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wkoehler55: Here is what I have: It is about midday now and my brain is starting to function. This link is to a fixed up pic of the ts controller board ready for you to look at to make sure I have it right. If so you can use the pic for your site(if you have one) or I will just leave it up on my site. Let me know if this is right. The white marks are the trace cuts and the red marks are the jumper wires. http://www.rippedopener.homestead.com/pictures.html Thanks for all of the help, and for finding the screen. I've wanted a touchscreen in one of these for a while but this is the first reasonable priced one I've seen. Later Kn
03-09-2001 13:29:55

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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Both of my controllers are a different version than shown in Knull's photo, neither has jumpers. As for mounting, I received a roll of 3-m double sided sticky tape in my second screen...nothing in the first. According to the manual, they are supposed to have a mounting kit with sticky foam included. One of mine came with a ps2 power cord, one didn't. Also, neither screen came with a working jumper/driver combination. Seems like this vendor has a bit of a problem delivering a uniform product.

I love the screen though.

03-09-2001 13:44:21

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Knull:
It looks like you got it right. I can't tell for sure from the picture. But it looks reasonable. Orange was also ground on my controller - I think it's a screwy color scheme, but oh well.

The picture is great. It should really help people with the hack (that is assuming the controller design doesn't change again!) I don't have a site, so just leave it up on your site. You're welcome to copy my instructions too if you get around to making a formal page for the hack at some point.

I'm interested in your experience mounting the screen. I found that to be the most difficult part of the hack. But now that everything is closed up and working, it's absolutely awesome! It took a few tries to get a solid calibration (we can talk about that too if you have trouble). The cursor also jiggles a bit under the stylus I am using to touch the screen. I wouldn't try using it for any precise drawing or for running applications with really tiny buttons. But for running an MP3 player and building playlists, it's perfect.

03-09-2001 13:50:32

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After challenging my soldering skills I have it and will test everything out. wkoehler55: I will make a page and will use your instructions(thanks). You will get full credit for everything. I will post how I mount it later tonight or soon. Thanks and I will have more questions I'm sure. Kn
03-09-2001 16:20:48

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wkoehler55 and r_fl_z: I got my screen in and hooked up like everything in your post wkoehler55 and nothing. This screen came with the ps/2 connector. Do I need to add some power for this? I noticed that wkoehler55 your mod said pull the power off and r_fl_z your mod pulled power from daughter board. Anyway the program can't find the screen. I double checked the connections everything looks right. any help would be great. Kn
03-12-2001 22:37:04

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I did not receive any instructions with this screen. What do I chose 2 wire or 4 wire when doing the setup? still not working just wanted to know. Thanks Kn
03-12-2001 22:40:20

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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Knull:

As I mentioned, the customer kiss-off is not well executed with this company. What's your driver status? As I recall, I responded to a post of yours directing you toward some working drivers. Did you successfully install those? Have you verified that you only have a jumper in position 3? Once I did that, I was golden. You DO need to power the board from someplace. Others have done it directly from CN12 (com2). I used one of my serial boards which has several power sources available. A third option is to plug power to the DB-9 connector. If you didn't get one, the vendor owes you a PS/2 serial tap. This small cable (included with my second TS, but not my first) inserts inline with the PS/2 connector to tap power. Call Scott and he'll send you one. Forge ahead, you're going to find it worth the effort.

03-13-2001 02:54:25

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r_fl_z: I did go to their web site and download tw53 driver set that you steered me to from the responce to my post. By the way thanks. the ps/2 connector I got plugs directly into the db9. I will just cut the end off and hook power to the board with it and see if that works. Just didn't want to fry anything because I areadly have the orange wire to ground and the blue wire to 5v+ on com 1. Anyway thanks for the advice and I will let you know how it turns out. Thanks for you help,Kn
03-13-2001 07:04:30

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Knull:
If you already have the blue wire on +5v and the orange wire on gnd, then you don't need to use the PS/2 power connection. The touchscreen only require 4 wires. +5v, gnd, Rx and Tx.

A quick way to check your touchscreen is to use HyperTerminal. Set HyperTerminal to 9600 baud and point it to the com port that is connected to the touchscreen. Each time you touch the screen, you should see a series of numbers in HyperTerminal.

Also, you mentioned you are using COM1. My instructions are for CN12 - COM2. Although there's no reason that you can't use COM1, the pinout for COM1's header is different and you will need to account for that.

03-13-2001 08:58:29

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Well I didn't hook up that power with the ps/2. I did the hyperterminal and nothing!!! I don't know what is wrong. I switched to cn12 com 2 still nothing. Could I be the first one to get a bad screen? I did something really stupid and didn't even try the screen before I started the hack. Everything has tested out right, the 7 to 10 and the 8 to 9 all the wiring seems right. I guess I will call scott and order a new controller and hook up everything factory to see if the screen works. Please everyone learn from my hasty decision
and always test the factory stuff first. I usually do just was pushed for time and wanted to get this finished fast. I guess I have learned an valuable lesson at the expense of my bank account. Anyway thats part of doing stuff in a hurry. I will let you know what happens when I get the new controller. Thanks Kn (if ya'll think it is not the screen and think of anything I can try let me know thanks)
03-13-2001 11:31:14

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Pulled everything apart and then retried everything now when I go into hyperterminal and select com 2 at 9600 baud rate windows says can not connect to com 2. I am lost everthing seems right. Oh the jumper is set to 3. Kn
03-13-2001 13:11:31

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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Knull:

I wonder if your touchwindow software has captured your com2 port at startup. Do you get the startup splash screen from TW53 when you boot your system?
I assume you have checked for a conflict with com2?

03-13-2001 13:49:29

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Yeap I checked for conflicts on com 2 none to be found. I do get the splash screen and then a message that says touchscreen 1 is not calibrated for 800x600, but then when I go into the software it can't find a touchscreen and will not let me in the calibration part of the program. I ran the software microcal that is suppose to find the screen under dos still no luck. Scott is going to email me a program that runs under dos to debug the problem. Not sure how that program works. I will let you know. I just feel that everything is right. I should have tested everything before hand to see if it worked from the factory. By the way r_fl_z can't wait to see your site on the ioemu. And I will have to say that I have not posted here much in the past but you guys are really great. r_fl_z and wkoehler55 have been really helpful and I feel that ya'll have gone out of your way to help me. I just wanted ya'll to know it is not going unappreciated. So thanks alot and maybe I will get this working soon. Kn
03-13-2001 16:36:48

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Just wondering does the touchscreen show up under windows 98 device manager on the one or ones ya'll have working.... if so under what? Thanks Kn
03-13-2001 16:50:02

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Knull:
The best way to debug your touchscreen is to use HyperTerminal. HyperTerminal will show you exactly what is coming in via the COM port. If you can't see anything in HyperTerminal, then touchscreen controller is not sending data to the computer and no piece of diagnostic software in DOS or Windows will be able to help you.

I would start by uninstalling the TouchWare drivers so that both com ports are free. Next verify the wiring on your controller. Make sure that the traces are cut completely (check with an ohmmeter if possible). Also since your controller is slightly different than mine, I would verify all the wiring against your RS232 line driver's datasheet. Also make sure the wire colors are correct (who knows, your colors may be different too).

Once you've verified everything, run HyperTerminal. Connect HyperTerminal to the COM port with your touchscreen. Whenever you touch the screen, you should see numbers appear in HyperTerminal. If this still doesn't work, get an oscilloscope (hopefully you can get access to one?). Verify the 5v line is at 5v. Then trace the controller's Tx line (brown wire) back to the pin on the microcontroller (the square "onetouch" chip). Watch the level on this pin with the scope while you touch the touchscreen. You should see activity on the scope each time you touch the touchscreen.

Let me know if you have any luck with these suggestions.

03-13-2001 18:47:09

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) Knull
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Ok, wkoehler55 and r_fl_z: I got the screen working in hyperterminal but when I install software it still can't find the screen. It works after rebooting but I can tell it is not calibrated. I am going to download some other software from their site and try that. By The way I know you are wondering what it was: a pass through hole that went to pin 7 on u2 that I had to cut top and bottom traces to get it to work. The first time around I only cut the top trace. Pictures will explain it better. So I am still going to make that page on my site. In the mean Time I am going to look for some software that will work. Just wanted to thank both of you for not giving up on me and helping me out(I'm still new at the hardware hacking stuff). Thanks again and if you know of some other version software that works other than 5.53 let me know. Kn
03-13-2001 22:55:55

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) wkoehler55
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Knull:
You're almost there! It sounds like you still have a problem with the controller's Rx line. The driver will sort of work with only the Tx line - you will be able to touch the screen and move the cursor, but you won't be able to detect the touchscreen or calibrate it. Even though the driver can't talk to the controller, it still receives those touch messages you saw in HyperTerminal and it tries to use them as best as it can.

Check the circuit on the Rx path carefully. I saw the exact same problem you are describing when my Rx line had lost connection with the CN12 header.

03-14-2001 07:25:29

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Ok will do. thanks.kn
03-14-2001 07:31:36

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Thanks for all the help I have the touchscreen working now. It works great and I will add this to my site soon for everyone to see picture instructions. Thanks again later Kn
03-19-2001 19:45:04

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So are you 99% able to dump the keyboard and mouse for a pop-up on-screen keyboard utility ? Is the substrate of the touchscreen glass, and do you think it will prevent damage to the fragile LCD ?
03-20-2001 14:12:21

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Knull:
Congratulations! So what was the problem and how did you solve it?

deadbolt:
It depends on what you're doing. The touchscreen is not super-accurate. So for anything that requires precision (such as precisely lining up icons for example) you are better off using a mouse. But for driving most applications, the touchscreen is great. I use the i-opener as an MP3 player mounted in my stereo rack. I don't have a keyboard or mouse hooked up. The touchscreen works perfectly for building playlists and controlling music playback. For those occasions that I need more control over my system, I use pcAnywhere. But for the most part it's all driven with the touchscreen.

03-20-2001 20:01:58

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I orginally had pictures of cutting the traces on the top side of the board and that is how I wired it also everything looked good put I didn't take in to account that the holes of the traces to pins 9 and 7 under the board. So when i cut their traces on top it was still running to the pins on the bottom of the board. Just a newbie hardware hacker mistake and being in a hurry. So I did all the trace cutting and wiring on the bottom of the board and presto it worked. Thanks again for all the support and now I am hooked on hardware type hacks and this board is helping me learn alot. Later kn

p.s. the touchscreen seems to be ok accuracy wise with a pen stylus. I agree great of running apps, not so great for dead on drawing.

03-21-2001 14:16:48

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Knull:

Well done bud. Hack and learn, that's what the game is all about :) Now that it's working, you must acknowledge that you had fun, right?

No touch screen will be good for drawing, it's just not their forte'. I just solved a VERY annoying problem with my second TS. I thought I'd pass it along in case it prevents someone from throwing a brick through theirs, which I was close to :o

I was using it with the sometimes included PS2 power ripper cable, and after two weeks of messing with it, discovered that the cable was faulty with an intermittent failure. There is NOTHING worse than an intermittent failure, since it's behavior appears inconsistent. Of course I had tested and signed off on the cable weeks ago...ggggrrrrrr :) But, like you, now that it's working all is forgiven and I love it too.

03-21-2001 17:45:14

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Yes I had alot of fun and plan on having some more. I glad yours is working too(r_fl_z). Just waiting for ya'll to setup the next hardware hack adventure or maybe even figure out one myself(who know's it could happen)LOL. Anyway thanks Kn
03-21-2001 20:18:31

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wkoehler55 and r_fl_z: I understand you have the touchscreen working without the key board or mouse hooked up. When I unhooked mine it brings up the windows can't find ps2 mouse and the touch is not working but if they are hooked up touch works. As you know I didn't get any manuals so is there a special setting for this or how if not. Thanks Kn
03-22-2001 20:18:47

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Knull:

The manual is worthless. It's inaccurate, the command lines are wrong, and it's in nearly broken English. Your typical sloppy Far Eastern translation.

My test system has a USB mouse, and an ergonomic keyboard with a serial mouse. Both mice function normally with the touch screen witout any special steps.

I'd recommend you delete your mouse install, let it be detected on reboot (or search for new hardware), and reinstall it.

03-22-2001 22:32:19

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Knull:
The error message telling you that no mouse was found comes up before the touch driver is loaded so you can't dismiss it with the touchscreen. I had to boot once with the keyboard connected and no mouse connected. When I got the error message telling me a mouse wasn't found, I was able to use the keyboard to check the "never tell me this again" checkbox and then dismiss the dialog. After that I could boot windows without a mouse or keyboard connected.
03-23-2001 15:00:19

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Would it be possible to use a stylus on the touchscreen to draw characters? It would be nice to be able to use a natural handwriting recognition program...
03-27-2001 18:54:34

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I was reading the really old posts on the bbs, back before you had to log in. Someone asked about the possibility of something like a light pen that would work like a touchscreen, but not require putting one in. I searched and couldn't find any discussion of this in the bbs. Does anyone know of a light-pen type pointer that would mean not having to put in the touchscreen?
04-06-2001 10:45:32

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I used to have one of those light pens for my Commodore 64 (worked off the joystick port). You have to sync it up with the scan of the monitor via a calibration program. So they do exist (probably have serial port or USB versions now), don't know if the screen would be able to support it.
04-06-2001 11:45:33

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HELP!!!

I have an I-Opener with the RS232 daughterboard, and a touch screen.

I reassembled everything, and cannot get the touch screen to respond. I have been trying to verify that I have the correct wiring to the COM port, but it appears I do.

Any ideas of things I can check or any clues?

I found a very good way to mount everything using the rs232 board. I only screwed in the upper left and bottom right screws for the daughterboard. I used an extra spacer on the daughterboards top screw, and put the TS controller board upside down with the hole in the upper right corner between the two spacers. Then screw the spacers together by screwing in the dughterboard. You have to cut a bit of RF-shield where the CF Card should go, and presto! A perfect mount with no probs! I will try and take a picture to show.

04-10-2001 12:41:29

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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Phreak23:

How are you powering the TS controller?
Are you using the serial board with the modem?
What driver software are you using for the TS? I know that, once the hardware is running correctly, v5.53 mentioned above works great.
Does the software find the TS? or fail to find it?
Check both serial cables (10pin and DB9) for correct pin 1 orientation.
If you are using a fan, is it running? (indicating power to the serial board)
Have you used the serial board with any other devices? (to id the source of the problem...TS or serial)
Check your '235 chips for proper pin insertion in the socket.

The more facts you can provide, the less time this will take :)

04-10-2001 13:31:44

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) phreak23
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Thanks r_fl_z,

I have narrowed it down now to a problem with power for the controller.

The power outs on the daughterboard are fine, but when I plug in the controller's power to the daughterboard or the IMOD3, the I-Opener won't power on.

Not sure where to go from here, since it seems the power and all the cables are hooked up correctly. Any clues as to why I get no power with the controller power hooked up, but everything is fine when it's not hooked up?

I don't know how I got it on earlier, except that maybe the power was not properly attached. It didn't power up the first time I closed it all up....

04-10-2001 15:34:54

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Phreak23:

Email me, and I'll try to get you going.

Answer all of the questions in my previous post in your first email to me...this will save some time.

04-10-2001 20:52:02

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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Touch screen users who wish to use the serial board will require the following information to produce a working serial cable to connect the two:

First, identify the pins on the serial board header (com1 or com2, as they are the same)...the pinout when viewing the 10 pin header rows on the serial board head-on is:

9 7 5 3 1
10 8 6 4 2

verify your understanding of this by noting where pin 1 is marked on the serial board silk screen before continuing.

Now, build this cable:

TS serial...............serial 10 pin header (com1 or com2)
1 (GRN).................1
2 (BRN).................6
3 (RED).................2
4 no connection.....7 no connection
5 (ORN).................3
6 (YEL).................8
7 no connection.....4 no connection
8 (BLK).................9
9 no connection.....5 no connection

The serial BLUE and GREY (thick) lines are +5 and GND respectively. No connection is required with these if you are powering the serial board directly. Under no circumstances should these two lines be applied to the serial board connector.

Email me if you have questions.

04-12-2001 23:07:24

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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I should add: The touchscreen pinout/color table is for the DB9 connector on the TS side. To make the cable from the TS controller connector to the serial board 10-pin connector, select your TS side conductors based upon color. I note this because the pin assignments are different between the TS DB9 and controller board connectors.
04-13-2001 10:25:20

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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I've had a few questions on the TS/serial board combo installation, so here are a few pics of how I did mine:
http://209.41.5.228/public/CaseOn.jpg
http://209.41.5.228/public/DoorBottom.jpg
http://209.41.5.228/public/DoorTop.jpg
http://209.41.5.228/public/overview1.jpg
http://209.41.5.228/public/overview2.jpg
http://209.41.5.228/public/ReadyToClose.jpg
http://209.41.5.228/public/RFshieldOn.jpg

I mounted the controller under the memory door. The overview shots show the serial board and the cable routings. The extrusion next to the serial board is my hard drive mount. The install is straight forward, with plenty of room. The photos of this prototype install show corrugated cardboard and double sided tape to hold the controller board to the memory door. Note that the controller board must be offset when mounted on the memory dooor, in order to allow it to close properly. The multiple 45 deg. folds in the com2 serial board cable allow the controller board sufficient depth to close properly. This is a non-standard length com2 cable.

04-14-2001 14:52:55

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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Has anyone been successful in using this TS with Linux? I've completed the generic TS install for Linux without difficutly, having tried both xf86ELO.so and xf86MuTouch.so within XF86Config, but NO JOY. Upon attempting device activation using "xsetpoint <device>" I'm greeted with the dreaded "...device <device> not found".

If someone has done this, what driver did you use? TIA

06-21-2001 20:43:30

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) r_fl_z
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problem solved.

This SMT3V TS controller is a MicroTouch compatible implementation when jumper 3 is in position, so the driver to choose is xf86MuTouch.so. After completing the required edits of /etc/XF86Config, the TS works great. Email me if more detail is desired.

06-22-2001 20:11:41

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) jplatt50
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Hey All!

I purchased the touchscreen and used a USB to serial adapter with no problems at all. However, I need to use that adapter for something else now. So I followed the mods listed above to use the internal COM2 port. I have checked and double checked the cut traces and the jumpers on the board and they all look fine. The problem I'm having is that the Microtouch software cannot find the screen. So I took the Microtouch startup program out of the startup folder and went to 'msconfig' and removed the Microtouch entry there but when I go to Hyperterm, it cannot open COM port 2. I read that someone else had the same problem but then theirs started working.

HELP! :)

07-21-2001 18:33:36

New MessageRE:RS232 Touchscreen add-on for $150 (modified 0 times) Wild_Pencil
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Umm... did you remember to enable COM2 in the BIOS setup screen? :o)

-WP

07-22-2001 13:29:31

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