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New MessageHas anyone tried Peltier Cooling (modified 0 times) parasyght
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Here is a link to a page with a peltier cool that runs on 5v, has anyone tried a peltier cooler yet, maybe a peltier w/ fan? Whats the word on them?

http://eio.com/hotdeals.htm

04-18-2001 21:08:10

New MessageRE:Has anyone tried Peltier Cooling (modified 0 times) BadFlash
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The power brick can't afford the power and the IO can't afford the current load. Most pelters draw about 20watts and are not all that efficient. Fans give you lots more bang for the buck.
04-19-2001 13:33:32

New MessageRE:Has anyone tried Peltier Cooling (modified 0 times) parasyght
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why do they even make them? why not use a fan peltier combo?
04-19-2001 16:14:51

New MessageRE:Has anyone tried Peltier Cooling (modified 0 times) Programmer
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They make them so you can go below ambient with your cooling solution. For instance if your ambient temp is 70F then the best you could ever possibly do with fan/heatsink is greater than 70F, which while not bad, doesn't allow pushing the hardware further beyond its limits. With a peltier or piezo electric cooler (same thing) you create an artificial temperature differential between the plates. If that differential was say 40F then if the Hot plate was kept at 70F then the Cold plate would be at 30F.

The problem with this, is that the CPU will try to keep the Cold plate at 190F (or higher) and the hot plate at 230 (or higher), so instead of your HSF(heatsink/Fan) needing to cool 190F to 70F it must now cool 230F to 70F, requiring a larger HSF, or a better form of cooling.

In theory, you could stack TECs to gain even further performance, bringing the temp of the chip well below 0F, But you still have to find some way to cool the topmost hot pad to near-ambient, or the whole thing goes poof.

A further Problem with TECs is that they can only transmit a certain amount of heat before they die. The amount of heat they can transmit is generally based on the quantity and size of the individual piezo elements. the more the better. You can improve this ability to transmit heat by putting more piezos together in parallel, but this requires more electricity to accomplish.

In short, the IOpener is far less than the ideal placement for a TEC.

04-20-2001 11:12:06

New Messageactually, I'm trying it right now . . . (modified 0 times) PrimerAL
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. . . just to see if it was an effective way of cooling a 450MHz I-Opener. My initial concern was with current draw. I haven't measured the Peltier junction's current draw at 5 volts, but I'm typing this message on the I-Opener using the stock power brick. It's not a bare-bones system either, since I'm concurrentlly running a 6.5gb Toshiba laptop hard drive, the RS232 daughterboard, K6-III+ mod running at 100MHz x 4.5, cooling resistor mood, and a 7mm Sunon 5v Sunon fan.

I have to say I'm not ecstatic with the end results. After a torture test (to me that's scandisk/defrag) the peak temperature according to MBProbe is only 10 degrees lower than with just the Tennmax. It works, but not well enough to rave about, which is expected fron a Peltier running at only 5v

I don't know if my system just runs hotter than most, but with just the Tennmax my temps would sometimes shoot up to 175F! I'm noticing 165F peak with Peltier + Sunon. They both fit underneath the stock casing since they both add up to 11mm with metal plating.

If anyone wants the specs on my Peltier:
30x30x3mm (perfect size for the top surface of the AMD K6-III+)
works on 3-12v
up to 65C temperature differential at zero load
$17

there's a larger one for $25.

I have the website if anyone wants it. Maybe you can achieve better results by stacking two at 5v each, or by using a separate 12v power supply (Badflash sells those). Good luck getting the stock wallwart to power two Peltiers, and good luck cooling the really hot side of the Peltier! For now maybe I'll just step down the multiplier a notch or two before I melt something...

04-24-2001 00:16:47

New MessageRE:Has anyone tried Peltier Cooling (modified 0 times) Programmer
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The CPU isn't likely to be a major heat point on your system, you'd be better off putting the peltier on your favorite voltage regulator..
04-24-2001 05:54:54

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