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New MessageNew BIOS possible? (modified 0 times) justme
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Hi,
I was wondering, at the Phoenix website it appears newer versions of their BIOS support booting USB devices such as CD 's, hard drives even USB floppies.

Before I-Openers I had no interest in USB, now I've got USB junk hanging off everything... it'd be very nice to get USB boot/support in the BIOS...

Is there any upgrade from the Award to Phoenix BIOS? I'm unfamiliar with BIOS's generally, however I'd happily put some cash down to get a better USB support. Constructive suggestions welcome

04-30-2001 20:58:50

New MessageRE:New BIOS possible? (modified 0 times) Programmer
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Find a motherboard that uses the Via 8501/686a chipset (or Cyberblade i7), that has a newer phoenix bios, grab a copy of that bios, and give it a whirl. If it works let us know, if not, let us know. Chances are, none of us here with the skill have the time to write a complete bios (from scratch) in any reasonable amount of time for free. Never having written a bios before, I could guarantee a minimum of a months worth of my billing time, and at $75/hr, I doubt very much that you'll be able to find enough people interested in a bios that much..

Other options are LinuxBios, TinyBios, and OpenBios. TinyBIOS is where I got the code for the floppy controller bios from, to me it is not very clear or neat, is difficult to follow, and currently does not have support for booting from USB or CD. LinuxBIOS looks promising, but as yet has no plans to support booting BIOS dependant OS' such as DOS and windows. LinuxBIOS should actually be rather easy to port.. but it also (to my knowledge) does not support booting from USB or CD. OpenBIOS I have never taken a really good look at, and I'm not really sure of how Open it is..

There are yet other options. If someone can point me to a document that specifically describes how to make a USB boot bios, I would be happy to write a boot rom that enabled such. It would not be part of the bios, but would be a seperate chunk of code that executes when the bios is ready to boot; similar to the floppy boot bios, the CD Boot Bios, and the interleave enabler.

If anyone would be willing to get me a copy of a book that detailed all of the software interrupts needed for IBM compatability, I would be happy to take a look at it and see how much work would be needed to convince tinybios to be fully compliant, and/or how much work it would be to make a DOS bootloader for linuxbios.

There are likely further options that I didn't think of, If you have any please post them.

05-01-2001 06:41:53

New MessageRE:New BIOS possible? (modified 0 times) BadFlash
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Going from AWARD to PHOENIX is not an upgrade, believe me. PHOENIX bios is very inflexible and very proprietary. The PHOENIX flash utility does not even give you an option to save the old bios file. AWARD and PHOENIX are both the same corporation now, so features available in one are available in the other.

PHOENIX is setup for corporations that are interested in reliability over performance and don't care about flexibility or upgrades. When the computer is a couple of years old, you trade it out for a new one. You don't add a new processor, or a bigger hard drive, or anything. Corporations don't ever think about overclocking. I get customers all the time that have received HP, Gateway or Dell computers that are hobbled with PHOENIX bios. Most of the time we can find out what motherboard they have and get them the AWARD or AMI bios that was intended for that board and the performance difference is staggering.

05-01-2001 10:56:36

New MessageRE:New BIOS possible? (modified 0 times) Programmer
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Does anyone know of a VIA 8501/Cyberblade i7 system that has bootable USB?

Come to think of it that may be a good way to get the floppy bios and Del key issue fixed as well..

05-01-2001 13:25:59

New MessageRE:New BIOS possible? (modified 0 times) vailr
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http://slashdot.org/articles/01/02/05/1818203.shtml mentions these laptops as having bootable USB: Toshiba Portege 3480, Sony Vaio SR notebooks, Sony z505r.
05-01-2001 20:36:04

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