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Clean I-opener in-car installation

New MessageClean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) GWIZAH
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Okay, so I finally parted with my V-5 HSN I-opener with fan,
I-mod3, and a 3.5 gig HD for $250...

Lo and behold, my buddy puts it in his car and dare I say it, IT ACTUALLY LOOKS KICK-ASS!
Its a 2000 Honda Accord and The I-opener now sits where the glovebox used to be.

http://gwizahone.tripod.com/iopincar.html

The case its inside of is made of plywood, epoxy and bondo with vinyl trim to match the dash. basically
the front panel of the I-o is glued to the frame so you have to remove all the screws to get inside, but nevertheless
Im sure you'll agree it looks great!

06-21-2001 20:51:05

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) wireless
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What happens when the airbag deploys??? It looks like there is an airbag compartment above it... Is there any concern about the IOpener compartment flying apart are being torn off and pushed into the seat or passenger in front of the airbag?
06-22-2001 13:19:43

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) BubbaDog56
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Gwizah,

What's the keyboard in the picture?

B'Dog

06-22-2001 13:59:40

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) Kudzu
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Bubba,

Look on the seat in the picture.

06-22-2001 16:10:09

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) Kudzu
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What happens when the airbag deploys??? It looks like there is an airbag compartment above it... Is there any concern about the IOpener compartment flying apart are being torn off and pushed into the seat or passenger in front of the airbag?

Good questions. Depending on how he secured it, I could see one of two things happening.

1st. The airbag deploys and rips the io out of it's mount, which then smashes into the passenger's shins.

2nd. The airbag deploys, with the io in a non-breakaway mount. The airbag destroys the windshield, crunches into the io, and partially deploys. The passenger gets partial protection, but not enough to prevent impact on the edge of the now pushed-forward io.

Can the io be lowered a few inches, or would that make it impossible to use?

06-22-2001 16:23:14

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) Kudzu
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It does look very nice though GWIZAH!
06-22-2001 16:25:26

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) ckbone
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Nice install...I wonder how the driver's view of the screen is affected by the severe angle. I-Openers don't look good at much of an angle. I've been mulling over a similar setup, but I wanted the screen to pull out slightly from the right side, giving me (the driver) a more head-on view.

I work on cars for a living, and have fixed many air-bag deployments. From the look of the picture, unless there is much of an upper edge to catch, I don't think a deployment would hurt the I-Opener...But I would certainly design a sheet of plexiglass to protect the screen. The air-bag deploys only through the square opening you see above the I-Opener....I don't think anything would be ripped loose. Never know though. Anyway, the passenger would have an excellent view.....

06-22-2001 16:39:18

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Looks kool! Nice installation job! but maybe in the wrong place?
I'd hate to be the passenger if the airbag ever did deploy...
Possibility of fine bits of shatterd lcd glass and lcd goo in ones face and eyes from the rear impact of airbag?
06-22-2001 16:44:04

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) mp3boombox
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to set you guys at ease, that air bag is an up/foward flying box which is HUGE. I dont see any major problems with the air bag BUT, there is a chance it could catch on the top of the io case. If this happends one of 2 things will happen. 1. ether the airbag will fly over fine, 2. will nick it and bound over fine. 3. may totaly hange making a HUGE balloon that is a little away from the pashengers face. If that happens it can be to far and the person whom is in that seat could brake there back if ther is no seat belt at the time.

4. the air bag can totaly catch on the top THOUGH I REALY DONT BELEAVE IT WOULD. if it does it COULD rip the unit off and hurl it fowards and DOWN with a masive spin at the person's thies to shins, more likly nailing the the knees, even then it may just swing it down realy fast and be haning at the bottem after cracking the person in the knees realy good.

I personaly suggest moving the unit down about 1 inch. As long as there are not snair for the bag to catch on or if the top and the edge of the dash board are semmy flush you dont have much to worrie about. DO NOT FORGET AN AIR BAG FLYS OUT AT ABOUT 200MPH!!!!!!


My only other suggestion i could give would be PUT a piece of plexy glass over the screen of the io. There a little frail when it comes to tuching. besides, nothing more anoying then someone taking off there jacket or waht ever and driving a FINGER right into the screen :/. wouldnt be pritty!


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06-22-2001 17:37:56

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) mp3boombox
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to set you guys at ease, that air bag is an up/foward flying box which is HUGE. I dont see any major problems with the air bag BUT, there is a chance it could catch on the top of the io case. If this happends one of 2 things will happen. 1. ether the airbag will fly over fine, 2. will nick it and bound over fine. 3. may totaly hange making a HUGE balloon that is a little away from the pashengers face. If that happens it can be to far and the person whom is in that seat could brake there back if ther is no seat belt at the time.

4. the air bag can totaly catch on the top THOUGH I REALY DONT BELEAVE IT WOULD. if it does it COULD rip the unit off and hurl it fowards and DOWN with a masive spin at the person's thies to shins, more likly nailing the the knees, even then it may just swing it down realy fast and be haning at the bottem after cracking the person in the knees realy good.

I personaly suggest moving the unit down about 1 inch. As long as there are not snair for the bag to catch on or if the top and the edge of the dash board are semmy flush you dont have much to worrie about. DO NOT FORGET AN AIR BAG FLYS OUT AT ABOUT 200MPH!!!!!!


My only other suggestion i could give would be PUT a piece of plexy glass over the screen of the io. There a little frail when it comes to tuching. besides, nothing more anoying then someone taking off there jacket or waht ever and driving a FINGER right into the screen :/. wouldnt be pritty!

06-22-2001 17:37:58

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) BubbaDog56
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Kudzu,

I didn't ask 'Where's' the keyboard, I asked 'What's' the keyboard. I can see it fine, just curious as to what it is 'cause it's not a standard iO keyboard.

GWIZAH,

Is this one of those backlit industrial jobbies?

B'Dog

06-22-2001 20:55:11

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) GWIZAH
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Whoa, what a debate over the Airbag!!

Yes, Bubbadog...Its the backlit keyboard from Texas Industrial Peripherals.
Well now you guys got me interested and Im going to quizz my friend about it over the weekend. Maybe adding a plexiglass cover to the screen is not such a bad idea...He's going to add a cellphone to it via a serial/USB adapter so it can surf wirelessly. Although I belive a cell modem gives you about a 19 kbps connection...Well good enough for IRC?

ckbone, Im pretty sure there is a law on the books here in FL (maybe in your town too?) about not having a TV screen or other distraction within plain view of the driver. I think he was trying to avoid getting harrased if pulled over...
As you can see by the photo, the car is pretty "modded up" already, and I dont think the yellow paint job is very easy to downplay either!

06-22-2001 23:27:48

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) 02U2
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One thing I thought about with the plexiglas overlay is the "glare" will increase a great deal from the shiny surface and on bright days that may make an already difficult to view screen even harder to view?
06-23-2001 05:08:15

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) ckbone
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GWIZAH.....No matter where the screen was in a mobile install, if it was in view, any view, of the driver, some dumb local cop could write you a ticket (probably anywhere). The point is....if you're going to do a mobile install the screen should be easily visable....otherwise why do it? Right now MP3 car radios are available from $250. The only reason I can see for this install is a GPS system, which means the driver must easily see the display. I'm certain for day-time use a shade of some sort would be needed....you just can't see the thing very well when the sun is out. For any other use in a car, I'd go with a laptop.
06-23-2001 05:39:58

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) Greenspark
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ckbone, Im pretty sure there is a law on the books here in FL (maybe in your town too?) about not having a TV screen or other distraction within plain view of the driver.

Strange. I've rented cars in FL that had the GPS navigation system in them with a small (4x5?) screen. I couldn't interact with it while the car was in motion, but the screen always stayed on and showed my current position. That would seem like a violation and I doubt Hertz would break local laws.

06-23-2001 05:57:43

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) mp3boombox
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its in a care it doesnt matter where its going to be there will still be a glare unless your in the dark. though i dought it he COULD get etched plexgy glass IF it even exist's. Though i dought it.

a cover over the screen NO MATTER WAS IS THE BEST IDEAR.

As for a screen being a distraction to the driver??? I didnt even know the law had cought upto 20th century technolagy?? I can think of a lot of other things that would cause more distraction then a TV screen. this is thing I'd like to see proven by the books!

06-23-2001 22:19:05

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) lithboy
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The airbag was a huge issue when I first cleanly mounted the IO in my 2001 Audi A4 1.8TQM. It was first mounted right behind the airbag symbol, and I started getting paranoid, so I moved it in front of the vents in the center console. Not only can everyone see the screen perfectly now, but I also have full of of all the airbags, and with the new touchscreen, I can easily reach the screen. The only thing I give up are a couple of vents, but they can also be used as cooling for the CPU :) I will post pictures soon.
06-24-2001 12:26:17

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Gee I don't know too much about local laws regarding view screens in vehicles....
But if the police have there *MDT's and Laptops mounted in there patrol vehicles....Usually just one officer aboard....Keyboard and viewscreen positioned for driver access....
Also Taxi and limo drivers have similar data terminals in there vehicles....and commercial equipment service vehicles....

Where does the law draw the line? Is there one?

*Motorola (or Mobile) Data Terminal

06-24-2001 13:21:36

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) Programmer
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Hmm.. I saw a cop playing solitare in his car when I went to the movies a while back.. he said he wasn't having much luck when questioned..
06-25-2001 08:43:10

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) ttn1
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I've had my iopener in my car for use on long trips for about 3 months now. I don't have nearly as nice an implementation though. I created a snap on mount to move it from the original stand to a rather crude mount on the car dash. I use it for both GPS and mp3 playing and it works flawlessly, except when I try to use the voice recognition. It certainly makes music playing on long trips easier. Create a playlist and off you go.
The Iop also doubles as a download point for my digital pictures on vacation. I have a velcro attached plexiglass shield, which makes the screen impossible to read during the day, but protects it when it is stored. I am still thinking of trying one of those monitor glare reducing screens.

And again looks like a great install.
ttn1

06-26-2001 04:53:56

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) TheXerox
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Wouldn't get a cell phone for wireless surfing in the car.. might want to see if ricochet is available in your area!

http://www.ricochet.com/about_us/coverage_maps/index.html#current

06-26-2001 09:50:13

New MessageRE:Clean I-opener in-car installation (modified 0 times) ttn1
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For anyone using GPS, the Delorme Street Atlas Road Warrior Edition is great software. The only problem I have found so far is that the maps pretty much suck except on major highways. Locations of gas stations, fast food and such are pretty bad. The plus side is that you get voice directions when you have a trip plan. No need to see the screen. You can also give the program voice commands, which works surprisingly well. Only mp3 playing and voice recognition don't mix very well. The only down side I have found so far, is that I haven't figured out how to stop mp3 playback when directions are given by the delorme software.

Good luck with all the car installs.

ttn1

06-26-2001 12:24:14

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