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Availability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS
Availability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS

New MessageAvailability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS (modified 0 times) NetCadet
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Hi There,

I am just wondering if the V5 I-opener BIOS sold on chip by BadFlash.com is public domain. Is there anywhere I can go and download it? If not, which BIOSes are publicly available, and from where? I have a BH6 and would like to flash my I-opener BIOS myself if possible.

Thanks.

Regards,
Jordan Dubuc

10-16-2001 13:40:46

New MessageRE:Availability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS (modified 0 times) Wild_Pencil
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Technically speaking... none of the BIOS images are "Public Domain" -- the base BIOS code is copyrighted by Award.

A bare-bones "V5 BIOS" with an unlocked Setup Screen is floating around the Internet.. as is the original "V1 BIOS" that never had the QNX crippling code added. It used to be on Free-drive until they started charging for storage space. There's a Yahoo Briefcase for "iopener_hacker" that was supposed to be the replacement repository, but no files were dropped in there yet.

The current version (dated 6/2001) offered by BadFlash contain a number of improvements that I've spent months perfecting; and a handful of other fixes that Programmer whipped up in a matter of days. It offers the "nice to have" things that end-users want, such as CDROM Booting and <DEL> key entering Setup. As far as I'm concerned, it's a chip-only upgrade.

The recent USB-timer fix pioneered by Georgie is done through self-service patches to the BIOS, or by loading the appropriate device drivers. The jury's still out on which USB/PCI-timer fix is better -- Georgie's USB-timer fix, or an alternative global timer fix brought up by Programmer. Until this is settled or decided on, the current BadFlash V5 still doesn't contain these updated fixes.

10-16-2001 23:29:34

New MessageRE:Availability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS (modified 0 times) Kudzu
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WP,

Do you know if he'd just sell a disk with the bios on it? Almost all of my Iopeners had problems initially, after extracting the chip to remove the rest of the goo, and then replacing it into the socket.

I imagine he could sell them for the same amount as the chip.

10-17-2001 23:21:29

New MessageRE:Availability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS (modified 0 times) *SF*
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Wild_Pencil,

I also am Interested in a File.
I have Flashed My BIOS in the past & prefer that route.
I have extra BIOS chips already & don't want any more.

I am Grateful for the Work You have done
& will Gladly Paypal a Flahing fee to You or BadFlash,
If I could just have the latest file Emailed to me.

Thanks in Advance for considering My Request, * StarFish *

10-18-2001 01:24:36

New MessageRE:Availability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS (modified 0 times) Wild_Pencil
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Email me directly at wild_pencil@yahoo.com to receive the enhanced v5 BIOS as an attached-file, with this in your email's message body:

"I affirm that I may legally obtain the v5 BIOS with any enhancements made do this BIOS. I agree to use the enhanced v5 BIOS for my own personal use, and only on devices which may legally operate said BIOS. I agree not to distribute, post, or make public any BIOS or firmware images I may receive. I affirm that I have the means to revert to a known-good BIOS image should any defects be found in the firmware images I may receive and use. Finally, I solely accept full responsibility for my use of this BIOS and hold harmless any and all parties involved in developing, enhancing, or distributing this BIOS image."

Whew. What a mouthful of legalese.

Anyways.. I don't expect or require payment, as this is just a spare-time hobby for me. Since I've received several offers, however, charitable people may go to http://www.lalee.net/donate and get to my PayPal donation page from there. Donations certainly do influence how much free time I invest in the projects I'm working on.

-WP

10-18-2001 18:51:29

New MessageRE:Availability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS (modified 0 times) Wild_Pencil
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The emailed BIOS image offer is now closed. Thanks!
10-21-2001 21:27:31

New MessageRE:Availability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS (modified 0 times) El_Kabong
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Would someone *please* email me the new BIOS image. Thank you.


el_kabong@bigfoot.com

10-23-2001 10:57:40

New MessageRE:Availability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS (modified 0 times) Courier5
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Since the offer is no longer available (and I have already purchased the upgrade bios earlier) Can someone post the new bios to the yahoo briefcase user name iopener_hacker password iopener_hacker or send it to me via email

courier5@hotmail.com

Thanks C5

11-16-2001 19:08:00

New MessageRE:Availability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS (modified 0 times) Wild_Pencil
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The enhanced v5 BIOS is NOT a public release. It is a chip-only update that may be obtained through BadFlash. The basic v5 BIOS without the enhancements is floating around the 'net and is considered a public release.

Posting the image in a public repository will likely kill off my remaining interest in building future BIOS upgrades like floppy-support, video-memory size selection, LCD selection, and Diskless USB-Network booting.

-WP

11-17-2001 12:47:06

New MessageRE:Availability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS (modified 0 times) Courier5
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What a bunch of crap WP

First its

quote: "Email me directly at wild_pencil@yahoo.com to receive the enhanced v5 BIOS as an attached-file,"

Now its "The enhanced v5 BIOS is NOT a public release. It is a chip-only update"


What about those of us who have already bought the chip upgrade...is it sorry, so long, only upgrade is to by another one?

With that attitude I can live with hitting ctrl-alt-esc for the bios.

11-18-2001 14:25:36

New MessageRE:Availability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS (modified 0 times) Wild_Pencil
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So by that line of thinking... do you also want Win98, WinME, and WinXP completely and unconditionally for free just because you bought Win95? I'm guessing you think it costs nothing for people to produce software upgrades?

The enhancements are the product of months of my own hard work. Now I'm supposed to just give the results to the public domain?

Put simply: those who received the enhanced BIOS image as a file were just lucky. After I received the 50th request, I got tired of dealing with the flooded Inbox and closed the offer.

Considering that only one of 50 recipients actually followed up with a Paypal contribution, I'm just not inclined to open up my Inbox to freely provide the enhanced BIOS as an Image File, and am sticking to BadFlash as the preferred distribution source. The $10 or so he charges compensates him for his time and effort in answering questions, and packaging and shipping the product.

I don't have the time or the energy to set up an E-Commerce site just to make a few dollars per unit. It's just not profitable enough to warrant the hassle for me.

Quite frankly, I think those with v5 machines should just be happy that the original Patched v5 BIOS was produced in the first place. Without it, there'd sure be a lot of silent IOpeners out there.

The current BadFlash BIOS is a polished product that most end-users would want in their systems. It was originally slated to coincide with the huge availability of v5's sold through Home Shopping Network and other sources. If you're above a mere end-user (which I expect most of you are), then you don't need the enhancements and can get along just fine.

Finally, for history's sake... I had no intention of releasing any BIOS Upgrade in the first place -- only releasing a CDROM-Bootable BIOS after Netpliance announced it was leaving the consumer ISP market.

-WP

11-18-2001 23:55:42

New MessageRE:Availability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS (modified 0 times) ttn1
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I think it is amusing that people get so upset with wild_pencil.

He is under no obligation to give away what he has done.

I just wanted to say thanks for the contributions wild_pencil. Not everybody gets bitter just because they can't get something for free.

As for the whiners, consider the extra $10 for a chip part of your contribution to the IO movement.

ttn1

11-19-2001 06:31:45

New MessageRE:Availability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS (modified 0 times) Glitch
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I have to side with Wild_Pencil on this issue. When it comes down to it, he is free to do whatever he wants with his work. He can give it away, he can sell it, or both. That is the great thing about freedom.

The same freedom affords the rest of us the opportunity to do the same. If I (or anyone else) wanted to put together my own BIOS I could do whatever I want with it (more or less). So far this has not happened.

I understand how much work is involved in this. $10 is very inexpensive when you consider the work that goes into developing and distributing the BIOS. The BIOS that is being sold is not essential for a working i-Opener. There are other versions of the i-Opener BIOS that will work. They have been available in the "public domain" for quite a while. These BIOS's may not be full featured, but they do work. The extra features (i.e. V5 sound) are gravy and IMHO are worth the premium price (be it cash or begging <g>).

Wild_Pencil, I hope you are taking this all as the ultimate complement. Your work must be really appreciated for people to squabble about it so much.


Glitch
Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work
11-19-2001 07:30:20

New MessageRE:Availability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS (modified 0 times) redwood
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Wild Pencil
thanks for yer hard work, and Please...

just /ignore those sniveling cheapskates.. Gessh I thought I was tight! oh well... I think perhaps we have a few Youngsters here, that sometimes just Don't think befor they speak... but, that's the kinda thing, that will just chase off the Hard working helpers on this site... don't let a couple noisy complainers bother you, keep up the improvements! thanks!

11-19-2001 07:46:00

New MessageRE:Availability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS (modified 0 times) Courier5
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Hold up there,

My comment was in regards to him providing via email one minute and then turning around saying the bios was not free domain. He changed idea in mid stream. I was going to do the paypal route, but he closed the offer. Like i stated earlier, I had no problem sending out the money for the original chip.

I lookied at it this way "Do I go out and buy a new BIOS from abit, asus, etc when the BIOS no longer recognizes a new processor ID or send them $10 bucks everytime they update the bios?" Just so I can pull the chip and replace it? or do I just download the BIOS from there website and flash from dos?. I would much rather buy a file and reflash, than to pull the bastard apart and put in a new bios and risk frying the board or cracking the socket. Even with an extracter there still is the risk.


"Now I'm supposed to just give the results to the public domain?" Isn't that what you did when you made the first offer?

"The emailed BIOS image offer is now closed. Thanks!" was a little vague as to whether you just got tired of being flooded with emails, or that you didn't get compensation.

"There's a Yahoo Briefcase for "iopener_hacker" that was supposed to be the replacement repository, but no files were dropped in there yet." Made it sound like it was ok to drop it in the box for distribution.

C5

11-19-2001 09:05:37

New MessageRE:Availability of New V5 I-Opener BIOS (modified 0 times) Glitch
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Courier5: Try looking at the situation a different way. If you wanted a new BIOS from Mr.Bios you would have to pay for it. It wouldn't matter that you had already "bought" a copy of a BIOS with your motherboard. If you want the new features, you have to pay.

Would you think that Mr.Bios's product was public domain if they ran a promotion giving away 50 copies?

Also, please read the stipulations of the offer that WP made. Those that got the BIOS agreed to "not to distribute, post, or make public any BIOS or firmware images I may receive". It is pretty clear that he didn't want this to be public domain.

Don't get me wrong. I think it would be great if everything that was discussed here was available to everyone for free. I was lucky enough to get a copy of the V5 enhanced (thanks again WP). I was NOT able to get a copy of the V5 special edition. Am I disappointed, definitely. Would I tell WP that it is "bunch of crap", not in a million years.

I think it is all a question about attitude.


Glitch
Electronics run on smoke, if you let the smoke out they won't work
11-19-2001 11:06:47

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