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HD trouble please help please (modified 0 times) bflem82 Profile i was hoping someone could help...i recently ordered a 44 40 Pin Complete Adapter from badflash to hook my hard drive up to my desktop to install the os (for the iopener). my hard drive is a 3.2GB 12.5mm sline 2.5" EIDE FUJITSU. the problem is, my bios wont detect the hard drive. i can hear the hard drive running but when i check my bios it says that its not installed...what can i do? bflem 03-14-2002 12:20:18

RE:HD trouble please help please (modified 0 times) *SF* Profile Make sure You have Pin 1 correct from one all of the way thu to the other. Understand your Master/Slave/Single Jumper settings. Try it on your secondary IDE channel, add/remove other IDE devices. Try it in another system. Good Luck. 03-14-2002 13:25:40

RE:HD trouble please help please (modified 0 times) bflem82 Profile ok so i got xp installed into the harddrive (did it on the desktop)but when i hook it up with the swapped cable, it doesnt startup...could someone please tell me what id have to do and how to do it ? im so frustrated 03-15-2002 13:14:08

RE:HD trouble please help please (modified 0 times) ckbone Profile I did get one cable a while ago from Badflash that was assembled wrong. He uses two connectors on the board end to accomplish the pin swap. You are supposed to use the center rows....one row on one connector, the other row from the second connector. On the drive end is one connector. When you lay this cable flat on a table, both sets of connectors should face down. The bad cable I got had the connectors facing opposite directions. Make certain the side of the cable with the colored stripe goes to pin #1 on the drive. That's usually the pin closest to the drive jumpers. Are you having the BIOS detect the drive? Hard to figure what's going wrong here. FWIW...When I first assembled an I-Opener with that bad cable (didn't notice it)...the drive was fried. Lucky for me it was an old test unit. 03-15-2002 14:21:40

RE:HD trouble please help please (modified 0 times) bflem82 Profile well i guess it wouldnt detect it because my cover wa on too tight ...took it off and it picked it up...but now it brings me to a screen that says i must have changed hardware (obviously) and gives me options to start up with (safe mode, last known settings, normal, etc) but ive tried all options and they either start with the white bar with black lines or they start typing files (?) on the screen, filling it up but then stopping and stalling...does it have to do with the bios options? is there something im missing? 03-15-2002 22:24:57

RE:HD trouble please help please (modified 0 times) *SF* Profile XP hates to have the Boot Drive put in another system ! It's the Latest form of Copy Protection. You need to install XP in the I-Opener. Maybe there is another answer ??? Like call Micro$oft, or Search their Knowledge Base. 03-15-2002 22:52:47

RE:HD trouble please help please (modified 0 times) RoKnRoL Profile Remember I could not install XP with the Rise processor. Changed to pentium and installed with no problem. 03-16-2002 07:05:50

RE:HD trouble please help please (modified 0 times) bflem82 Profile thats just it, i got the k6-2p 450 so that i would be able to...i'll just have to install it on the iopener but there were so mnay things im not sure about even with the instruction you find in this place...it was just alot easier for me to install it on the desktop 03-16-2002 09:47:47

RE:HD trouble please help please (modified 0 times) RoKnRoL Profile My guess is that you will have to install 95,98 or ME first on the desktop. Then copy the XP files to the iop hd. Then after iop is up and running install XP. Good Luck! 03-17-2002 11:25:28

RE:HD trouble please help please (modified 0 times) klunk Profile I installed WinXP without a single problem by booting from my IDE CDROM in the i-opener and letting the install program handle everything. My hard drive was partitioned but not formatted. That means that WinXP does not need to be installed over WIN 98, etc. in the i-opener. If you don't have an IDE CDROM, everything should work if you copy the relevant files to your i-opener drive installed in your big machine (after it is formatted as FAT 32, and has the system files transferred so it can boot). Run setup once the drive is moved to the i-opener. Don't forget to add the relevant drivers as well, esp. the NIC drivers! By the way, WinXP detects everything perfectly, and even leaves out the nonexistant "A" drive. Performance is excellent--quite fast. 03-17-2002 13:00:50

RE:HD trouble please help please (modified 0 times) bflem82 Profile man i am really getting frustrated...well im not sure about how to do the ide cdrom thing butheres whats happened so far: i booted from a win98 disk; partitioned and formated the drive. i ran a:\>sys c: . then i copied the i386 file from the xp cd. then i copied smartdrv.exe from the floppy. then i put the drive in the iop and the windows98 screen comes up. so i try to run smartdrv.exe and it tells me that it cant be loaded because the xms driver, himem.sys is not loaded. it also tells me that cd\i386 is an invalid directory. so i type in winnt.exe and it brings me to xp setup but then it says cant find smartdrive well duh anyways then it says cant find file "disk1" and then the samer thing for another file. i feel like im this close to doing it but i just cant think of anything else i could do. i DONT UNDERSTAND WHATS WRONG!! if anyone can help based on what ive told you, please do. thanks everyone else for the input, i really appreciate it. 03-19-2002 04:52:22

RE:HD trouble please help please (modified 0 times) vailr Profile Can you boot to a DOS prompt? Black screen with "C:\>" showing? If not, re-attach via adapter to a desktop machine & configure the disk correctly. Be aware that the HD's jumpers must be set as "Master". Using a Win98/ME bootable startup floppy's FDISK.exe utility, set "primary partition active". Once you can get to where the HD boots to a DOS prompt "C:\>", THEN type in "smartdrv.exe", Enter. Type "cd\i386", Enter. Type "winnt.exe", Enter. Only after you verify that the WinXP setup can begin while connected to a desktop machine, can you then assume that the same procedure will later work when attached to the IOpener. Also: try and only use the slimmer 9.5mm height laptop HD's, for easier fitting in the IO's cramped spaces. 03-19-2002 11:10:33

RE:HD trouble please help please (modified 0 times) bflem82 Profile actually vailr, i used your instructions from another question and still no luck. im able to get a c:\> butif im not using the boot disk anymore (because ive put the HD in the iop) smartdrv wont run. like i said, it tells me that it cant be loaded because the xms driver, himem.sys is not loaded. it also tells me that cd\i386 is an invalid directory. im not sure how to set the jumpers as master. as of right now, i have the i386 folder copied on to the hd, along with some other stuff i thought id need like word processor,aol, printer drivers,etc. ive started over again like three times trying different things but nothing seems to work. i know its possible i just gotta get things to click. can you see where im going wrong? 03-19-2002 12:02:35

RE:HD trouble please help please (modified 0 times) vailr Profile OK: Exactly which boot FLOPPY disk are you using? Win98/ME? And like I stated before, you must "go through the motions" of getting everything ready (that is: HD boots to c:\> prompt) for WinXP installation (including: smartdrv.exe runs successfully) WHILE THE HD IS STILL CONNECTED TO THE DESKTOP MACHINE, before the HD is wired up/connected to the IOpener. If you then still receive the same "himem.sys not loaded" error, then (while still connected to a desktop machine, not to the IOpener) just copy the contents of the boot floppy to the root directory of the HD. That way, when the HD boots, the himem.sys driver will load automatically. You still get to a DOS prompt "C:\>", and then running "smartdrv.exe" won't give an error. But do all this while the HD is connected to a desktop machine. 03-19-2002 12:55:32

RE:HD trouble please help please (modified 0 times) bflem82 Profile well it turns out that i cant run xp right now because i need 64mbram and i only have 32...but your idea helped so much and because of that im perfectly running ME!! thanks so much for all the tips youve helped more than youll know....btw, i can seem to find the sound drivers for the iop....would you know where i could find them? 03-20-2002 02:40:23

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