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Which 128 sodimm will work

New MessageSODIMM confusion (modified 0 times) hseaver
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Okay, I've read a bunch of the sodimm threads, but, not being able to see the sodimms I might order, I'm still confused. Here's the description of 5 different sodimms:

128MB PC100 144PIN SO DIMM 8X16 128MB
PC133 144PIN SO DIMM 16X16
PC-100 128MB 16X64 144-PIN
128MB PC66 144PIN SO DIMM 8X16
256MB PC133 144PIN SO DIMM 32X8

Which of these will work?

09-05-2002 13:44:56

New MessageRE:SODIMM confusion (modified 0 times) vailr
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The PC-100 128MB 16X64 144-PIN does not exist, that would be equal to 1024 MB.
The others you listed should/may work, mostly trial and error. Seek "low density" as opposed to "high density".
Low density usually means the Sodimm has chips on both front and back sides, not just on one side.
Circuit City has a "Centon" 256 MB Sodimm that reportedly does work in the IO.
09-07-2002 09:44:33

New MessageRE:SODIMM confusion (modified 0 times) gman76
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Theoretically all PC66, PC100, and PC133 SO-DIMMs will work. They all use SDRAM chips. When 256Mb density chips are used, you may not see all the memory since these chips have 13 row address inputs, whereas 128Mb parts have 12. I believe the controller in the IO supports up to 128Mb parts.

mike

12-18-2002 10:15:05

New MessageRE:SODIMM confusion (modified 0 times) ztw4
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PC66 will do 99% of the time (some cheaper brands are apparently iffy), but as you say chip density is paramount. PC100 and PC133 need to be checked.

For those that don't compute memory configurations on the fly (i.e. me; I'm an opera singer, not a hardware specialist), you can count the number of chips per side. The only 256MB units that work have 8 chips per side, the 128MB units that work have 4 per side.

I have a PNY (I think) 128MB SODIMM that I bought for something else, which tested successfully in my IO, if anyone's interested. Not that they're rare or anything.

12-18-2002 12:03:56

New MessageRE:SODIMM confusion (modified 0 times) Adrenolin
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Well after doing the harddrive hack and finally getting win98se installed on 2 IOs I decided to upgrade the RAM to speed them up a bit. The first system is a V4 and the second system is a V5. Both contain the latest 5.40a BIOS from Badflash.com. I went to Circuit City and picked up a Centon 128MB chip after reading here that they reportedly worked for others.

Got home and placed it in the V4 IO and the system failed to boot! Going into the BIOS with this (I had to be quick as it would simply freeze up the system) I'd attempted to reconfigure the BIOS settings for different speeds but the system would continue to freeze. I also noticed that each time I went back into the BIOS after it froze up *ALL* BIOS settings would be reset to their defaults! Note that the freeze took place during different times. Sometimes it would only be within seconds of turning power on and other times it would start loading Windows (have the win98 clouds startup screen) but would never complete. Also if in the BIOS for any more then about 20 seconds it would also freeze.

After about 15 minutes of this I placed it into the V5 and it runs perfectly fine! Both systems have the exact same win98se install (only difference being the sound drivers). The V5 has been running now for the past 48 hours with no problems. Not sure why it works in one system and not the other.

Just in case others are wondering here is the chip information:
From: Circuit City
Size: 128MB
Model#: 128MBLT133
PC133 Synchronous 16x64-7ns 144 pin SODIMM

01-12-2003 04:33:35

New MessageRE:SODIMM confusion (modified 0 times) Adrenolin
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I remember reading a thread where I think an update from Badflash said that a Crucial 128MB chip worked for him. Has anyone ordered either of the following 128MB or 256MB chips from Crucial.com? Can you confirm if they work or not and also in what version IO?

128mg Part Number is : CT16M64S6W7E = $30.59
256mg Part Number is : CT32M64S4W7E = $49.49

Much thanks!

01-12-2003 04:43:28

New MessageRE:SODIMM confusion (modified 0 times) Adrenolin
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An update on 2 different SODIMM chips which have provided me with different results with different version IOs. The first was the 128MB Centon mentioned above and the second is a 256MB chip from Crucial. Both IOs are running Win98SE with all required updates from Microsoft.

The 1st
128MB Centon from Circuit City
Model#: 128MBLT133 T156355
PC133 Synchronous 16x64-7ns 144-pin SODIMM
This SODIMM has a total of 8 chips (4 on each side).
Each chip says the following: ELPIDA SINGAPORE - D45128163G5 - A75-9JF - 0225XEP01
Tested in 2 systems:
UNSTABLE in a V4 regardless of BIOS settings. Would sometimes reboot while booting or it would simply freeze up. It would NOT boot completely at all.
STABLE in a V5 with the following BIOS settings:
DRAM Timing: Turbo or Normal (all other settings were unstable)
SDRAM Cycle Length: 2 or 3


The 2nd
256MB from Crucial.com
Model/Part#: CT32M64S4W7E.16F
SDRAM, PC133 • CL=2 • Non-parity • 7.5ns • 3.3V • 32Meg x 64 • 144-pin SODIMM
This SODIMM has a total of 16 chips (8 on each side).
When I called Crucial I was first told that they didn't carry 16 chip SODIMMs then was told they did and that the chips ran in 4 rows of 2. Note that what I got was a tall SODIMM with 6 chips beside each other and 2 chips above these.
Each chip says the following: 2WE31 - DBFCN
Tested in 2 systems:
UNSTABLE in a V4 regardless of BIOS settings. Would sometimes reboot while booting or it would simply freeze up. It would NOT boot completely at all.
STABLE in a V5 with the following BIOS settings:
DRAM Timing: Turbo or Normal or SDRAM 10ns or SDRAM 8ns (all other settings were unstable)
SDRAM Cycle Length: 2 or 3


OK so WTF is with V4 IOs and RAM?? I was able to run the V5 IO for a 48 hour period with the Centon 128MB module and for a 24 hour period with the 256MB module without any system problems. I'll be returning the Centon 128MB module to Circuit City tomorrow and will be getting 1 of the Centon 256MB chips and perhaps a PNY 128MB and 256MB as well to test. Hoping that one of them will work in the V4!

If anyone has a Model or Part number of a 256MB module which is working in a V4 IO please post it and from where you purchased it here. Thanks!

01-17-2003 23:25:27

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