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V1, need GOOD directions on making it support a dual volt processor.
V1, need GOOD directions on making it support a dual volt processor.

New MessageV1, need GOOD directions on making it support a dual volt processor. (modified 0 times) logixland
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V1, need GOOD directions on making it support a dual volt processor.
The ones I have dont make sense. Any one have some good directions on doing this?
I have a amd k6/2 333 2.2 volt that I want to get working in there
I got it to change the clock speeds, not I dont know how to do the voltage.
OR any one want to do it for me??:)

ALSO any one know what pins I need to lift (a good pic would also help) on the Sandisk so I can remove it off the slave channel so I can get a cdrom in my machine?

02-17-2003 14:49:41

New MessageRE:V1, need GOOD directions on making it support a dual volt processor. (modified 0 times) vailr
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Don't believe that there's any benefit to messing with (pin lifting/unsoldering) the Sandisk.
Just flash upgrade the bios to Wild Pencil's version 5.40a, and bootable CD should then work.
The "voltage mod" shouldn't be too difficult. The instructions should be in this BBS's archives.
Note: There's further mods involving a "DC-to-DC voltage mod", but is not needed to
achieve a working K6-2 333 CPU.
02-17-2003 17:17:49

New MessageRE:V1, need GOOD directions on making it support a dual volt processor. (modified 0 times) Ragnar1
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It's real easy. It only involves using one resistor, connection it to pin3 of ?? and ground. It's late right now, but in the morning I will take apart my v1 and check exactly the right place and value of the resistor.
02-17-2003 23:17:52

New MessageRE:V1, need GOOD directions on making it support a dual volt processor. (modified 0 times) Ragnar1
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Pin 3 of U16. Resistance on my v3 to get 2.2 volts is 50k ohms.
02-18-2003 13:41:40

New MessageRE:V1, need GOOD directions on making it support a dual volt processor. (modified 0 times) logixland
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ok,U16, pin3 would be on the bottom, 3 pin from the left correct? SO all I need to do is solder in a 50k resister to the pin and ground. Do i need to lift the pin or anything or do I just connect just solder on top of it?
02-18-2003 22:36:08

New MessageRE:V1, need GOOD directions on making it support a dual volt processor. (modified 0 times) logixland
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Are you sure the cdrom will detect as a slave if the sandisk is still active, no pins to lift or cut. I'll hook one up tomarrow or over the weekend and try it again. Thanks!
If someone has a pic of the voltage mod, I would really appreciate it:)
02-18-2003 22:48:30

New MessageRE:V1, need GOOD directions on making it support a dual volt processor. (modified 0 times) jimmy
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Briefly, U16 is a dual op amp being used as the voltage regulator driver for the regulated Vcore voltage and a second regulated 2.5 volt rail. Pins 5 and 3 are tied together on the motherboard, and both are fed by a strange, high impedance version of the 2.5 volt reference voltage reference generated by Q28. Thus, you must lift pin 3 from its solder pad to set your Vcore voltage without affecting the other regulated supply. Second, you really should generate your Vcore reference voltage from the normal, low impedance 2.5 volt Q28 reference. A convenient place to get this reference voltage is the upper (toward cpu) end of capacitor C257, in the lower right corner of the motherboard. Las Vegas describes how to make a voltage divider with two resistors tied between C257 and any nearby ground (he used a pad by the large electolytic capacitor to the left and slightly above C257, near the printed word "C277"). The center point of the divider should be tied to pin 3 (lifted) of U16.

I am currently doing this mod on several V1's using AMD K6-2+ and 3+ chips that need a 1.9 to 2.1 volt Vcore. For simplicity, I let my two-resistor divider voltage derived from C257 be my Vcore reference directly. For this to work, I remove resistor R202 from the board. R202 is the ground leg of a voltage divider in the U16 feedback loop that boosts the Vcore voltage above the value appearing on pin 3 of U16. R202 sits near the large electrolytic capacitor that lies near the infamous Q16 Vcore voltage regulator dropping transistor. Once removed, Vcore will equal the pin 3 voltage, which makes life simple for making up my resistor divider network on C257. Once R202 is removed, the appropriate divider network for K6-2+ and 3+ chips is a 100K resistor connected to ground (near the "C277" word printed on the board), tied to a 27K resistor, which, in turn, is tied to C257. This generates about 1.95 volts. The center point of the divider (1.95 volts) is tied to pin 3 (lifted) of U16 using fine wire wrap wire available from Radio Shack. Use fine wire to avoid putting strain on the lifted U16 pin 3, which is quite flimsy once lifted. I glue the wire to the motherboard at some point along its length as a strain relief.

Try a 15K resistor with a 120K resistor for your 2.2 volt Vcore. Oh, of course, don't forget to move the zero ohm resistors R60 and 61 to the vacant R184 and 185 solder pads near the cpu socket to allow split Vcore and i/o rail voltages. This is important, and do this first before messing with U16!! Also, check your Vcore voltage before plugging in the cpu. All work should be done with no cpu present until this check is done. Vcore appears on the outboard solder pads of R60 and 61 (which are now vacant).

Good luck!

jimmy

02-19-2003 06:56:16

New MessageRE:V1, need GOOD directions on making it support a dual volt processor. (modified 0 times) Ragnar1
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No need to lift anything on U16. Pins from left to right 1,2,3,4. Solder one end of the correct ohm resitor to pin 3, (second from the right). You will have to test to find the correct ohm. Follow the other steps listed in the moderated technical section. This will work on any version of iopener. I have used this method on two iopeners, a V1 and V3 where I hosed a surface trace on the correct resistor pad.
02-19-2003 10:47:32

New MessageRE:V1, need GOOD directions on making it support a dual volt processor. (modified 0 times) jimmy
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Look up the old, but technically correct Vcore thread initiated by "turbo3" with contributions by "Las Vegas". Read up on the TWO power supplies that U16 controls. Turbo3 has a schematic on his yahoo photos page. Test for yourself that both supplies use the same 2.5 volt reference on pins 3 and 5, which are tied together. Read up on the problems people have had making a voltage divider using the local, very high impedance 2.5 volt reference supply on pin 3 of U16 in V1 i-openers (also in the turbo3/Las Vegas thread). Then, if you still want to believe you don't need to lift pin 3 on U16, solder away!

Good luck, and I mean it!

jimmy

02-19-2003 17:21:53

New MessageRE:V1, need GOOD directions on making it support a dual volt processor. (modified 0 times) Ragnar1
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I can post pictures, if you like. My V3 with this mod, without lifting any pins boots at 500mhz to dos. I will not argue with you, I just won't post anymore.
02-19-2003 18:56:34

New MessageRE:V1, need GOOD directions on making it support a dual volt processor. (modified 0 times) Ragnar1
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http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=technical&Post=1638&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=


My method is based on this one, linuxguru's. He uses a smt resistor and I use a 10 cent resistor from radio shack.

Do as you damn well please.

02-19-2003 19:06:22

New MessageRE:V1, need GOOD directions on making it support a dual volt processor. (modified 0 times) mp3boombox
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If I did, I saved the PAGE that had all the info on doing the dual voltage mod. If so i could zip it up and send it to you! full HTML with pictures. But I dont rember if i did, basicly i got to go and search a lot of burnd cd's
http://members.panax.com/bachh/ My EZnet 200 tower, hacking page.
02-19-2003 20:26:11

New MessageRE:V1, need GOOD directions on making it support a dual volt processor. (modified 0 times) logixland
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YAY, I did the mod yesterday late late night. I just removed resister R202 (10k) and soldered a 100K resister in series with a 50k pot. The 100K leg is soldered to the grounded strip of solder right next to C257. The joint of the resistor and pot were then soldered to a wire attached to the lifted pin #3 of U16. Works like a gream:) I had issues figuring out where to actually test the voltage of Vcore, but outer pads of R60 and R61 proved to be the perfect place to test. What was odd, without removing R202, I kept on getting 3.3 volt for vcore regardless... But I dont care:) It works:) Its been running 24 hours without crashing on a AMD k6/2 333 (one I found in my 'box-o-krap')
THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE!!!
02-20-2003 00:10:22

New MessageRE:V1, need GOOD directions on making it support a dual volt processor. (modified 0 times) jimmy
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Pins 37 and 39 on the Sandisk contoller need to be cut to disable it. The white marks near the controller chip mark off 5 pin increments.

jimmy

02-20-2003 19:18:34

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