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New MessageXP Install Problems (modified 0 times) tatsu
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OK, I'm trying to install WinXP on my IO, but it doesn't seem to want to install gracefully. I've tried XFan's Method and Peace's 10 step method with the same results for both. I plug the HD in and get the scrolling white bar at the bottom of the screen that freezes up on me.
A little background on my IO:
Version: not sure - gray case, had epoxy goop on BIOS, no Torx screws, no deformations of the IDE pins.
BIOS Version: not sure - it's an older Badflash chip from 2001.
RAM: 256MB
Processor: WinChip2 w/Lasagna fan attached

Any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated. I'm totatlly stumped here. Please let me know if you require further info and I will do my best to provide it.

Thanks in advance.

03-03-2004 15:17:24

New MessageRE:XP Install Problems (modified 0 times) ztw4
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Peace's method: I've had a similar result on one occasion. On my wife's old computer, I removed all the chipset-specific hardware devices, powered down and swapped the drive into the new system. Then, for some inexplicable reason (temporary insanity?), I hit F8 and chose to boot in safe mode, and had the exact same scrolling white bar/lockup result. However, when I hit the reset button and allowed it to proceed normally, it booted no issue. All I can suggest is, make sure you've removed *all* the chipset-specific drivers, including the IDE controller, USB hubs, PCI bridges, even onboard sound and video devices to be certain.

XFan's method: I've never used it, merely because it takes longer, but there's certainly a lot less to go wrong. It's somewhat troubling that it doesn't work, so I'd check all hardware thorougly first.

Are you sure the HD is being recognized properly? Detected with correct size, cylinders, heads, etc.? The I-Opener is notorious for incompatibility issues with various drives, and not even consistently. Most of the time, it fails to detect it completely, but your problem could be unique.

As well, similar problems could occur with various CD drives, though I don't know of any specifically. There could also be a hard disk error; if you've reformatted and it still fails, it might be a physical error. It could also be that your WinXP install CD has an error, and that can vary depending on the CD drive you use as well.

Lastly, you might also check your HD cable; I've had otherwise inexplicable errors solved with a cable swap.

Hope I've helped without completely confusing you.

03-04-2004 15:57:39

New MessageRE:XP Install Problems (modified 0 times) XFan
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Several things could be the culprit. Can you install Win98SE? One thing to watch is the SAN disk. When you autodetect the hard drive in the I-opener's BIOS, it will also detect the SAN disk. DO NOT CONFIRM IT, so that it stays undetected. It has a nasty tendence to configure itself as the C: drive. Do you have enough hard drive space for WinXP Pro? You should have a partition with at least 4GB, as XP has a big footprint (almost 1.5 GB). Make sure that you set your Windows Explorer TO SHOW ALL FILES and to NOT HIDE PROTECTED OPERATING SYSTEM files, otherwise you may not copy all files from the I386 folder on the WinXP Pro cd to your hard drive.

When I built the dual-boot Webplayer, i had first tried Peace's 10 step method with Win@K Pro, and I experienced it hanging like you did at startup. Via the Step-By-Step Confirmation boot method I got to the Safe Mode GUI twice, but it was terribly unstable. So I re-did the entire drive, used fdisk to create a FAT32 partition and installed Win98SE on it. Then I upgraded it to Win2K Pro and converted the partition to NTFS with the convert command. Once that was done I created a second NTFS partition with the Win2K Disk Management MMC tool. When I launched the WinXP Pro installer, I did not select the Upgrade option but selected New Install and I checked the box that allows you to choose the installation partition. Installed it in the newly created NTFS partition, and the rest was a piece of cake.

If all of this fails, you might want to check into buying a newer BadFlash chip, even though it worked for me on a V-1 I-opener with a 180MHZ WinCHip, and the NOTHING BUT NET BIOS. Had the same results on a V-5 I-opener with a new BadFlash BIOS. Let me know your progress


XFan
03-05-2004 03:29:56

New MessageRE:XP Install Problems (modified 0 times) tatsu
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I got it installed last night. I installed Win98SE on another machine and copied the whole goddamn XP install disk to the desktop instead of just the cab and setup files. I dunno. Maybe I dorked something up with XFan's method, but it worked like a champ once put into the IO. The conversion to NTFS after setup went off without a hitch too. I had Win98SE previously installed on the IO and working fine. I tried to do a fresh install of XP without reading up on it on the boards here. I figured XP, being the newest OS, wouldn't have any problems installing. That'll teach me to ASSume.

Now that I have XP running, do I still need Georgie's HD speed and USB fixes, or is XP smart enough to fix that for us? Thanks again for the helpful replies.
03-05-2004 09:40:53

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