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Giving back: All steps I followed for those who asked (BIOS goop, BH6 flash, fixing your own mistake

New MessageGiving back: All steps I followed for those who asked (BIOS goop, BH6 flash, fixing your own mistake (modified 0 times) JoshTSi
For those who have asked, here is everything I have done so far.

1) Open up I-Opener. Straight forward.

2) Remove goop on the BIOS. I tried a few methods of heat. Soldering
gun was not a good choice. The best method, IMO, was a simple hair
dryer. Heat up the goop, and use a very small screwdriver to peel it away.
Worked pretty well!

3) If you have a chip puller, use it! I used a small screwdriver, and managed
to mandle one of the connections in the socket on the IO.

4) Go to your BH6 based computer. Boot to DOS with NO config/autoexec. At
this point, you want to copy your current BH6 BIOS to a file using AWDFLASH 7.x

5) Yank your BH6 BIOS. When I did this, I broke off a chunk of the BH6 flash
socket! Yikes!!! It is still working (knock on wood). Insert IO BIOS into BH6.
Run AWDFLASH. Backup -new- IO bios. Then flash the BH6 BIOS onto the IO chip.

6) Shut down. Reboot. Boot into safe mode DOS one again. Flash -old- IO BIOS
on to IO chip using AWDFLASH, with the /F flag.

7) Power down, swap BIOS chips.

8) Insert IO BIOS back into IO, and notice nothing works. Double yikes! Check
all pins with multi-meter, and find where you no longer make contact. Take a
resistor, and cut off a piece of the lead. Using needlenose pliers and some force,
wedge the lead into the BIOS socket. It takes some pressure but works fine.

9) Power on IO, and it works! Woo hoo!

10) Make cable and have fun.

Thanks to everyone who has helped me with my questions.

Josh

04-14-2000 05:53:24

New MessageRE:Giving back (modified 0 times) Jared
Piece of advice when hot-swapping the bios chips: tie dental floss around the corners perpendicular to the alignment corner(one with the corner cut off) and leave the extra strings hanging off the top of the chip. Reset your PC's bios half-way, just in enough to boot properly. When the bios is done booting, then pull the original bios and swap with the iopener's bios, run awdflash and hope the finished product works! You may also want to invest in a PLCC chip puller to save your socket/chip. I'm borrowing one from my work that helps alot!

/Jared

04-14-2000 09:32:55

New MessageRE:Giving back: All steps I followed for those who asked (modified 0 times) oscar peterson
OK, my dumb ass question of the day coming up:

How can I tell if I have a K6 motherboard?
Is BH6 an actual manufacturer's brand, or a certain type of motherboards - ie do several manufacturers make BH6 boards?
If I look at my board, is their some way I can tell if its a BR6? How?

And also:

What would happen if I tried to flash my new i-opener BIOS with a-non BR6 BIOS? Would nothing work at all? Anyone tried this?

Cheers, technical people!

04-14-2000 10:46:41

New MessageRE:Giving back: All steps I followed for those who asked (modified 0 times) oscar peterson
Yes, I realize I wrote BR6 instead of BH6 a few times. Sori
04-14-2000 10:52:06

New MessageRE:Giving back: All steps I followed for those who asked (modified 0 times) drew
The BH6 is a specific slot-one motherboard model made by Abit (www.abit.com.tw)
04-14-2000 10:56:23

New MessageRE:Giving back: All steps I followed for those who asked (modified 0 times) theLite
Josh,

Between steps 5 and 6, You don't have to reboot after you flash the IO bios chip with the BH6 bios.. You can flash it with the io256.bin after you flash the BH6bios and then replace chip. Saves 1 step.

:)

04-14-2000 11:12:58

New MessageGiving back: After BIOS replaced (modified 0 times) clif
After removing my BIOS and replacing it I found that the computer would no longer boot!
I replaced the socket thinking that the connection was bad and the problem was still there. (When the power was applied, the power light came on immediately but nothing else happened.) I then removed power, removed the battery and shorted the battery terminals for a few seconds. I replaced the battery, re-applied power and then the power switching started working normally again. I still needed to press reset a few times before the computer would boot. I guess it can get into a "hung" state temporarily. Hope this helps.
04-14-2000 11:20:15

New MessageRE: BIOS goop, BH6 flash, fixing your own mistake (modified 0 times) Sartan Killer
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I had the exact same problem (BH6 wouldn't boot after removing and reinserting bios). I assumed that I damaged it when removing it, but hopefully clif's fix will get it working again (fingers crossed).

I would highly recommend people use a chip-puller with the BH6. I had a helluva time getting my chip out (I also broke the holder). The I-Opener chip isn't too bad once you get all the goop cleared off.

04-14-2000 11:37:31

New MessageWill a FIC SD11 work? (modified 0 times) twiddlebit
I don't have a BH6 but do have a FIC SD11, can I use the same procedure?
04-17-2000 09:49:18

New Message(BIOS goop, BH6 flash, fixing your own mistake (modified 0 times) Jared
Please correct me if(when) I am wrong, but are the main requirements of a motherboard for flashing your Iopener bios include 1. same chip socket(duh), 2. 5volts to bios chip instead of 12v, and 3. original board's bios being the same size as the Iopener's(256k)???? I have a dead bios chip from my first Iopener since I tried flashing it with a FIC PA-2013 board. The FIC's bios was only 128k, so that's my guess why it didn't work. I HOPE that someone gets a QNX flasher/updater working for my other unit which is still gooped up, but right now I have this other de-gooped chip that doesn't work!
04-17-2000 10:00:47

New MessageAll steps I followed for those who asked (BIOS goop, BH6 flash, fixing your own mistake (modified 0 times) Numbski
Quick note to all those who keep asking "can I use this motherboard? What about that one?". The best thing to do is open up your computer's case and look at the bios socket. If it doesn't look identical or close to identical, the answer is no. If it DOES look close to the same, make sure there are 32 contacts (7 on one side, 9 on another). If those statements are true, I'd go out on a limb and say it's worth a shot. :) I believe people have done some research and that only 2 work so far, and both are manufactured by ABit.

Numbski

04-17-2000 12:03:31

New MessageGiving back: All steps I followed for those who asked (BIOS goop, BH6 flash, fixing your own mistake (modified 0 times) .....
The 2 major considerations to look at if you want to use your mother board to flash the io are.
1. does it have a 32 pin plcc socket for the bois ?
2. is the bois a 128k or 256k ,you may need a 256k to do the job.

I got all mushy feeling when I discovered that a laptop I have has a 32 pin plcc socket but after I did some research I found out its a 128k bios and that may mean it doesn't have the A17 line ( address line 17 ) hooked up . if it can't select A17 then the chip can't read or write any higher than 128k. anyway this isn't for the faint hearted.

04-17-2000 13:49:55

New MessageRE:Giving back (modified 0 times) DooMStalK
Any chance that someone could start selling chips with the new BIOS already on them (similar to the ever-popular Playstaion modchip)? Or are the chips too expensive and/or too expensive to get ahold of?
04-17-2000 17:00:57

New MessageRE:Giving back (modified 0 times) DooMStalK
Ooops. Meant "too expensive and/or difficult". Sorry.
04-17-2000 17:02:36

New MessageRE:Giving back: All steps I followed ..... (modified 0 times) lizww
By BH6-based computer, I assume you mean an ABIT BH6 motherboard? (The site http://www.student.uni-kl.de/~peter/hardware/abitbh6main.htm has an exhaustive discussion of these). What about the BH6 or the Athlon-supporting motherboards makes them preferable? Is it because its BIOS program is compatible with the i-Opener? If you download the correct BIOS image, can you use any recent-model computer and AWDFLASH.EXE to reflash the BIOS? Please clarify.

Thanks for a clear, informative post, Josh.

04-18-2000 12:15:57

New MessageFixing your own mistake (modified 0 times) lizww
Sorry. My post retreads old ground. In penance, I offer this link to a FAQ about flashing BIOSes: http://www.ping.be/bios/index.html?http://www.ping.be/bios/HTML1/faq.html#q6
04-18-2000 12:38:48

New MessageRE:Giving back: (modified 0 times) Jopasm
DooMStalk - see Badflash and check some of the other threads, this has been gone over. :>
04-18-2000 20:21:15

New MessageLaptops for BIOS upgrades (modified 0 times) Dell Leak
FYI re: Laptops

Even if your BIOS is socketed and appears the same, you may not be able to re-flash. I know for sure that some early Dell Inspirons use OTP (One Time Programmable) BIOS chips, and had problems with the flash write circuitry. I used to work for Dell's laptop group, nice BIOS, but VERY proprietary and incompatible (maybe I should say "unique" instead.)

04-18-2000 23:42:33

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