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Confirmed: Rise 266 problems with Yamaha Audio

New MessageConfirmed: Rise 266 problems with Yamaha Audio (modified 0 times) jceven
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I will post this here, becuase this is tested and confirmed with my setup, and I beleive it may affect others.

I have a V4 I-opener flashed to V1. Rise 266 32 Mb and a 6.4 gb 2.5 inch HD. All comm ports and lpt and everything is enabled except floppy controller in bios.

I have installed winME on the iopener and was getting DMA erros with the Yamaha. I fixed those, and then WinME proceeded to crash and give me blue screens on startup. I had a P166 from an old HP Pavillion that I dropped in (On a sid enote, WCPUid reports the P166 MMX is at 200mhz, and the bios says It's using 2.8 Core voltage, which is printed on the chip itself. Am I a luck overclocker? am I over clocking the P166, is + 34 Mhz on a P166 unheard of?) I put the chip in a rebooted, and low and behold, no VXD errors and blue screens on startup. I was greeted with the WinME startup sound. I thought Wow this is wierd. I replaced the P166 Chip back with the RISE and the errors and blue screens returned with no Sound and it wuld crash on startup.

I can only verify this is the case with my Iopener RISE 266 32MB and WinME build 3000, but in the other forum there was a thread where some one else mentioned blue screens on a RISE with the Audio Drivers.

Please share your thoughts on this.
-Joel

07-21-2000 08:27:34

New MessageRE:Confirmed: Rise 266 problems with Yamaha Audio (modified 0 times) starfish
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The Blue Screen is ScanDisk Running.
Just wait & it will Finish & You will be able to see again.
I think pressing TAB during BIOS Spash Screen will let you see ScanDisk running.
You could Wait, for other Replies. You could Search !
07-21-2000 08:48:27

New MessageRE:Confirmed: Rise 266 problems with Yamaha Audio (modified 0 times) jceven
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Thanks starfish, but no you are not correct.

It is a blue screen that says error, VSGM error press control alt delte to restart your computer. I guess when I said blue screen I should have said BSOD. SO you are incorrect. It is not scandisk running, Im getting errors on windows start up after it goes into the GUI before login, not during pre WinME boot up.

But it has since been fixed by the P166 cpu.
Thank you

07-21-2000 08:51:11

New MessageRE:Confirmed: Rise 266 problems with Yamaha Audio (modified 0 times) -pyr-
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jceven: could you do some benchmarks on your Iopener with the pentium166 installed? Id like to see if it would be worth it to get one and replace the Rise266 chip with it. Since the rise chip is a lot faster than the stock winchip and even the winchip2 I would like to see how the 166 stacks up against it. Also, please see the other thread (linked below) and email yamaha tech support using the link provided in it so maybe we can get them to update the drivers for this issue.

Thanks for helping to clear up this problem, its nice to know exactly what the cause is now.

/http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Category=&Board=technical&Post=1470&ID=&Idle=10&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0

07-21-2000 10:02:45

New MessageRE:Confirmed: Rise 266 problems with Yamaha Audio (modified 0 times) jceven
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Pyr, I will try to do some Sandra 2000 benchmarks when I get off work tonight, Working full time at a Gov't research lab in town to get money for Tuition =)

I really dont want to swap the RISE back in, I assume you have Rise 266 marks for SisSoft Sandra 2000?
Also Please remember these marks I think will not be true 166mhz, because CPU ID reports 200Mhz I will see what Sandra 2000 says.

-Joel
pyr- please email me at jceven at ucdavis dot edu may be easier to correspond that way

07-21-2000 10:10:03

New MessageRE:Confirmed: Rise 266 problems with Yamaha Audio (modified 0 times) -pyr-
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the benchmarks for the rise and winchip and winchip2 are available here on the board.

this was posted originally by 'Richard' you can find it by searching for 'rise benchmark'

On 3/22, Tcp wrote:
-Sisoft Sandra '99 Results:
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-Test: Original WinChip C6 / WinChip 2
- -----------------------------------
-CPU Dhrystone: 252 / 406 (Wow!)
-FPU Whetstone: 74 / 123
-Integer MMX: 167 / 363
-FPU / 3DNow: 82 / 276 3DNow
-CPU Memory Bandwidth: 53 / 63
-FPU Memory Bandwidth: 58 / 62
---------------------------------------------
I just ran Sandra 2K on my IO
w/ the RISE MP6 266
(I ran it 3 times)

Sandra reports pros. speed @ 201 MHz.

CPU Dhrystone:465/455/487 = 469(Average)
FPU Whetstone:175/174/178 = 176(Average)
Integer MMX: 462/461/462
Floating Point: 167/167/167
CPU Memory Bandwidth: 56/56/58
FPU Memory Bandwidth: 72/70/72

It looks like the Rise wins at everything but
the FPU (Floating Point Unit)benchmark.

RV

It would be best for comparison if you used sandra2000 as he did, but Im not sure if it is freeware/shareware or a retail package so if you cant use that, whatever you can come up with would be really helpful

07-21-2000 13:28:06

New MessageRE:Confirmed: Rise 266 problems with Yamaha Audio (modified 0 times) -pyr-
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starfish mentioned in another thread that he was using windows supplied yamaha WDM drivers and they were working, so I reinstalled windows, found them and they work with the Rise CPU. No im curious as to why they didnt install the last time I tried. rather odd. for the short of it, dont install the yamaha provided drivers and it should work
07-22-2000 20:54:08

New MessageRE:Confirmed: Rise 266 problems with Yamaha Audio (modified 0 times) -pyr-
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another thing. to get the win98 provided drivers to work, dont use ECP in the BIOS since it will try to use a DMA address which will conflict with the yamaha sound chip. set it to EPP.
07-23-2000 11:50:15

New MessageRE:Confirmed: Rise 266 problems with Yamaha Audio (modified 0 times) jceven
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I just reinstalled winme, it picked up the Yamaha Audio and installed the WDM drivers, but was dma conflicting.

I want the ECP printer port (just call me a freak) so All I had to do was set the configuration on the yamaha audio to 0001 instead of 0000 so it used DMA 01 twice instead of 01 and 03. Works like a charm.

-Joel

07-24-2000 08:20:17

New MessageRE:Confirmed: Rise 266 problems with Yamaha Audio (modified 0 times) jaak
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I think if you do that you loose full duplex ability (same DMA for play and record), I could be wrong though.
07-28-2000 00:00:51

New MessageRE:Confirmed: Rise 266 problems with Yamaha Audio (modified 0 times) jceven
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Good point Jaak, I will look into that, I dont have the line in hacked yet to add a jack for it, just the mic thats there. I dont know if I will, but it is sure something to look into for other people.
07-28-2000 08:30:50

New MessageRE:Confirmed: Rise 266 problems with Yamaha Audio (modified 0 times) Wazhoo
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I had a hard time reverting back to the Microsoft Yamaha WDM drivers after I installed the drivers from Yamaha. Rather than re-installing Windows, I realized that the INF file is \Windows\INF\WDMA_YMH.bak... just renaming the bak extension to inf, and point your location to that dir when prompted for a driver would do the trick.
07-30-2000 00:48:42

New MessageV5 running Pentium 200 MMX overclocked to 245 MHz (modified 0 times) Turbo3
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The V5 iopener supports four different core voltages through the settings on switch SW4 (by the memory socket). They are:


SW4
1 2 : Voltage
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On On = 2.8 volts (shipped default for Rise)
Off On = 2.6 volts (setting for my Pentium MMX 200)
On Off = 2.2 volts
Off Off = 2.0 volts

To get a clock speed of 245 MHz I am over clocking a Pentium MMX 200 by setting the multiplier to 3.5 (remove R130) and setting the front
side bus speed to 70 MHz with Softfsb. The key to getting it running was reducing the core voltage to 2.6 from the normal 2.8.

I could get Win98 to run at 2.8 but I had to use the "step by step" startup option or the iopener power supply would shutdown and restart.
Once up at 2.8 volts the system would die (power drop) under stress when running Sandra 2000 benchmark.

Once I dropped the voltage to 2.6 volts the system became stable.

Sandra 2000 results:


Test : RISE / P233 / P245
--------------------------
CPU : 424 / 463 / 517
FPU : 201 / 264 / 277
MMX : 460 / 487 / 512
FP_ : 163 / 180 / 188

After running for an hour I shut the system down and Q16 was cool to the touch. I am running the tests with the back & RFI shield off. For now, I am using a regular Socket 7 heatsink/fan running off of an external 12 volt supply.

08-01-2000 01:34:48

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