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Getting DOC and HD to work with Win98???

New MessageGetting DOC and HD to work with Win98??? (modified 0 times) Clueless
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I've tried about every setting I can think of to get the HD with Win98lite installed and the DOC to work, but after the post screen for the HD, all I get is a flashing cursor and no boot. If I remove the DOC then I can go ahead and boot the system and it will boot flawlessly. Any one else get the system to boot with the DOC installed and Windows?? If so what are you CMOS settings? I'd really like to re-format the DOC and put the Win98lite micro version on it....

TIA...


Chaos, panic, and disorder... My work here is almost done...
11-13-2000 20:20:34

New MessageRE:Getting DOC and HD to work with Win98??? (modified 0 times) Kamel
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I've got an old Conner 1gb hard drive and regular run of the mill 24x cdrom plugged into my Webplayer, with the hdd on Master obviously and the cd-rom on slave. I can swap the Conner drive out for an IBM laptop drive set to Master and it still works fine. The hard drive is picked up as drive C, DOC as drive D, and cdrom as drive E. However, unplugging the cdrom with the laptop drive connected results in the hard drive not being detected and the system just boots to the DOC. If I change the jumper to Cable Select, it works great. Make sure you enabled the Primary IDE controller in the BIOS, and make sure the Primary Master hdd is set to Auto instead of None in the BIOS. If you've done this, I'm not sure what else to tell ya. Try the Cable Select setting on your hard drive. Remember - the DOC in the Webplayer is NOT the same as the flash disk in the iOpener by any means. They're both flash drives, but the iOpener has nothing more than a compact flash memory card soldered to the board that emulates an IDE hard drive. The DOC in the Webplayer is actually a separate "card" that simply occupies a small memory range (not even an interrupt is being used for it!). Basically to the system it looks like an ISA card that is entangled in the BIOS on bootup. It has no bearing whatsoever over the IDE controller, which is why it isn't detected in the bios as the flash disk is on the iOpener. So to make a long story short, try another jumper setting or try setting the drive to master and plug a cdrom in along with it. Later...
11-14-2000 22:38:16

New MessageRE:Getting DOC and HD to work with Win98??? (modified 0 times) DotheDoo
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I'm just getting into this and haven't had the time to 'tinker', but I went to the website that someone posted in a previous message and downloaded the DOS driver for the DOC. Lo and behold they also have the user's manual right there too!

It says the default format for the DOC is to be the primary boot device, but you can reformat it as a slave drive. Something to try, it'll be the first thing I try when I tear into mine.

11-15-2000 08:23:37

New MessageRE:Getting DOC and HD to work with Win98??? (modified 0 times) Clueless
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Well, it seems that something is now toast with the DOC on my system. I can't get the original software to boot the system any longer. I set the bios back to a defualt setting and it just shows the Virgin logo unless I hit the esc key. Looks like i'll have to do away with it or see if someone wants to trade theirs if they aren't using it. Not sure what the hell happened to it as I was real careful to avoid any static discharge. ACK!!!!
Chaos, panic, and disorder... My work here is almost done...
11-15-2000 21:34:22

New MessageRE:Getting DOC and HD to work with Win98??? (modified 0 times) Datoyminaytah
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The image on the DoC may simply be corrupt. Get the utilities for it (mentioned in another thread, you find it) and do the following:

1. Back up the current image (in case it really wasn't corrupt and you want to restore it later.)
2. Format it and put on it whatever you wish.
3. When you get the DoC the way you want it, back up the image in case it gets corrupted.

I have had the "corrupt DoC" problem with my WebSurfer several times and had to restore my bootable image to it by booting from a HD. Of course, this requires that you can boot from a HD to start with. It may be risky, but I have been able to boot from a HD with the DoC removed, and then carefully pop the DoC into its socket in order to use the utilities on it. This is all on a WebSurfer, which only has a 16M DoC. If you try this, be VERY careful about static electricity, and don't blame me if you ruin your DoC. Again, I haven't tried popping the DoC into my WebPlayer while it's on, just my WebSurfer.

11-16-2000 08:50:58

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