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New Messageembed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) Garisimo
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I installed the embed98.img (thanks famewolf) on my webplayer, and am playing mp3s on it right now... the only quirk is power management. If I put the WP in sleep mode, the screen will not come back on... and if I shut the WP down, I get the message that it is safe to turn the machine off, but the only thing i can do at this point is unplug it from the wall or the jack... workable, but not elegant. anyone using the embed98.img on their WP and having success using the power management / shutdown functions? If yes, please advise -- BIOS settings, Win98 settings, deals with demons, etc.).

Thanks!

-g-

12-01-2000 12:52:08

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) ebayabuser
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I now have my "power" button working with Win98 SE. The button works like it did with the original os installed on the wp when I got it. It works as a standby or suspend button. None of the holding it for 5 seconds either. Push it and it goes to sleep. Push it again and it wakes up right where you left off. You can also wake it up with the any keyboard movement.

Now the warning! After screwing with other power management options I lost all my devices in the device manager and had to redo my doc image to fix it.

Here is how I got it working. (Before I screwed it up)

1) Have your wp networked or able to get to the win98 cd files. A hard drive will work.
2) Go to the "control panel" - "system properties" - "device manager".
3) Expand the "System Devices".
4) Click on the "Advanced Power Management support" and click on "Properties"
5) Click on the "Driver" tab.
6) Click on "Update Driver" button.
7) Click "Next"
8) Select "Display a list of all the drivers ......" and click "Next"
9) Select "Show all hardware"
10) The boxes above should now read.. "Standard System devices" and "ACPI System Button"
11) Click "Next"
12) A warning pops up and tells you something horrible is about to happen if you continue, 13) Click "YES" so it does.
14) Now your computer will need the win98 cd to install the driver.
15) Let your system restart and viola... It worked for me and should for you.

I should mention that I did not change any of the Power management stuff in the bios for this to work. The device manager tells you that the device is not working properly but you can be the judge. Now you can leave it on "suspended" 24 / 7.

PS. I assume no responsibility if this hoses your WP or anything else. If you are not willing to risk then don't call yourself a hacker.
It worked for me, good luck.

03-19-2001 19:44:02

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) Randy
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Fantastic job investigating and solving this! Plus, your step-by-step instructions are even better. Great going.

Randy

03-19-2001 22:29:38

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) MISMan
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That is awesome work on the power button, but I get the same screen blanking problem when I tell it ot suspend, it will not come back up. I can hear the drive spin up, BUT not the screen.

Also, when I have APM shut the screen off, it goes to a blinking cursor until I hit the keyboard or move the mouse.

Any advice on those?

03-19-2001 22:47:59

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) ebayabuser
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MISMan,
That is what this should fix. I had the same problem when I selected "Force APM 1.0". I have tried this on 3 WP's tonight without a problem. Did you change somthing in the Bios? Sorry that is all I can think of.
BTW I have been running a Linksys USB to Ethernet adapter for 3 days and have had no problems. Are others still having problems with this?
John
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03-20-2001 00:06:09

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) NormConquest
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ebayabuser:

viola?

03-20-2001 05:52:44

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) aadam12
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Ebayabuser - I KISS YOU!

I too have the Linksys adapter and once I changed the power button settings it worked with no problems. I was streaming mp3s thru it for a few hours last night.

Is there a way to configure the button to power off the WP or is it only able to go into standby mode?


aadam12

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03-20-2001 12:44:21

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) ebayabuser
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aadam12, The switch will not work as a power switch from what I can see. I am going to install a rocker switch on the back of my WP for on/off. That is a simple solder job and was mentioned in an earlier thread. I like the switch this way. I typicall leave my systems on so I don't have to wait for a power up.
Good luck.
! Alpha Male !
03-20-2001 18:33:20

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) aznstud87
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In bios, what's your setting in power management. I did as you instructed. The WP would go into suspend mode, but then it wouldn't come back out of it.
03-20-2001 20:25:33

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) hevnsnt2
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great job on this, I will update the img's on I-hacked with this fix as soon as I get my replacement cable (today or tomorrow)
03-21-2001 09:10:17

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) ebayabuser
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aznstud87 Here are the bios settings.

Click on the "Power Tab"

Power Savings [Enabled]
Standby Timeout [off] note: I set 20 minutes. See Below
Resume on Time [off]
Resume Time [00:00:00]

After you find this working, you can set the standby timeout. My system goes to standby automatically now. It also wakes up too. Just like when you push the button. Make sure it works with the button before setting it in the bios. It probably won’t make any difference but better safe than sorry….

If you are still having problems I also went through my display settings. Who knows?

Right click on the desktop and up comes "Display Properties".
Click on "Screen Saver" tab.
Near bottom, click "Settings" Button.
Power Schemes should read "Always On"
Turn off Monitor default is 15 min. and this is fine. I did set this higher than the bios standby time setting mentioned above.

Also check to see if your adapter is set to "National Semiconductor XpressGRAPHICS(TM) this can be found in the System Properties.

Wow. I hope that covers it and it is understandable. BTW My earlier post I misspelled Voila. I guess that shows that I am of Polish ancestry not French...
Good Luck

! Alpha Male !
03-21-2001 17:35:57

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) wpman
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Question for you guys... are you running with the regular "Plug and Play BIOS" driver in Win 9x, or "ACPI BIOS" driver?
03-23-2001 07:22:50

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) ebayabuser
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Plug and Pray.
Sorry about the typo, I meant Plug and Play Bios.
Are you having trouble with the settings I gave above?
Did anyone try it on the WinME version?
John
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03-24-2001 13:37:45

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) wpman
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Hmmm... didn't work on my WebPlayer. Turning off "Force APM 1.0 mode" seems to have fixed the "flashing cursor in the upper left corner when the screen is blanked" problem, but my unit won't even try to suspend with the "ACPI System Button" driver in place of the APM driver. In the Device Manager, the "ACPI System Button" driver has the yellow exclamation mark - is this what you guys are seeing too? FWIW, I'm using Win98 (original version) as originally supplied for an IBM ThinkPad - are you guys using Win98SE?

Thanks in advance for any info.

03-26-2001 06:51:00

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) aadam12
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I've tried every configuration, with DOC, without DOC, etc.

Now I'm running WinME on an old Toshiba hard drive with NO problems. Recently added the Lasagne cpu fan to keep things cool. USB works perfectly. Standby button works. Would like to add some sort of on-off switch so I don't have to unplug the WP every time I want to shut it off. But other than that the WP is great.


Thanks again Ebayabuser,
aadam12

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03-26-2001 07:45:33

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) ebayabuser
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wpman
"my unit won't even try to suspend with the "ACPI System Button" driver in place of the APM driver."
Are you pussing the "button" or trying a software suspend? I push the button and it suspends.

"In the Device Manager, the "ACPI System Button" driver has the yellow exclamation mark - is this what you guys are seeing too?"
Yes. Even though it shows the exclamation mark it still works.

"I'm using Win98 (original version) as originally supplied for an IBM ThinkPad - are you guys using Win98SE?"
Both of the current images avaliable for download to the doc are both SE. I haven't tried it with the older version.

! Alpha Male !
03-26-2001 14:10:18

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) wpman
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> Are you pussing the "button" or trying a software suspend? I push the button and it suspends.

Pussing the button. No software suspend on my "Start" menu anymore - I'm going to try to re-enable the software suspend and see if that helps.

> "I'm using Win98 (original version) as originally supplied for an IBM ThinkPad - are you guys using Win98SE?"
Both of the current images avaliable for download to the doc are both SE. I haven't tried it with the older version.

I'm running off an HDD, not the DOC. Maybe I'll have to try SE.

Thanks for your pointers.

03-26-2001 15:50:03

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) ebayabuser
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Deer WpmAn,
Sory abuot mi speeling Serious now, the “suspend” should be gone from the start menu. I have a feeling it is a non-Win98SE thing that is causing the problem. Let us know if you figure it out.
John
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03-26-2001 17:35:59

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) MISMan
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Man,

I give up. The button works fine to suspend, but I can not get it to wake up. Hitting the button, hitting keys on the keyboard, moving the mouse, etc....

Any suggestions?

03-31-2001 22:12:31

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) metro
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I also have not gotten this to work. I am running win98se on a harddrive. I installed the acpi button and now it does go to sleep when I use the front button but when I wake the webplayer back up the screen stays blank. The hard drives does spin back up. I can restart windows (blindly) and on the reboot the screen comes back.

Any help?????

03-31-2001 22:59:18

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) conway
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I've done this a different way.
I've just removed the Advanced Power Management device completely, and it works!
I think the ACPI driver thing is unnecessary, since it seems that you guys see an exclamation mark next to it anyway, indicating that its not being used. I think the trick here is to have the APM driver removed or disabled :)

To the ppl who have problems with the screen coming back -- make sure your BIOS settings have power-saving things enabled with some timeout. Also make sure, in the Display Properties / Advanced make sure that "Reset display on Suspend/Resume" is checked.

04-06-2001 01:50:20

New MessageRE:embed98.img and Power Management (modified 0 times) Baxterzine
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hey removing pm does work just the same as changing it, but ebayabuser did a good job of testing and writing instructions on this so hats off to him, but removing it takes the annoying yellow mark out of system devices.
chuck
04-06-2001 21:41:49

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