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What USB ethernet adapters work?
What USB ethernet adapters work?

New MessageWhat USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) san472
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Okay, I guess LinkSys USB100TX doesn't work with the WP. But are there any other USB ethernet adapters that *really* work with it? Something tested to transfer a big file, like a single 40MB file, without loosing a connection...
04-23-2001 01:02:32

New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) Frogking
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I would HIGHLY recommend the Cables To Go USB 10/100 Ethernet Adapter model 22433. It runs great on the Webplayer under Windows ME. It did bomb out once in Windows 98 SE, but I think I had the driver installed wrong.

The URL for this adapter is http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat%5Fid=1504&sku=22433


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04-23-2001 06:12:08

New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) aadam12
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My LinkSys USB100TX adapter works fine. Took a while to figure out the quirkiness but now it works perfectly. I run WinME. Takes one or two reboots to set up the adapter but once it's stable I leave my WP in suspend mode. No more reboot problems. Just touch the keyboard an it comes back to life.


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04-23-2001 06:31:23

New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) clwade
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I have the Linksys adapter, I could not get to perform in a stable fashion using WindowsME.

Having to remove it for reboots, sometimes locking up the Webplayer on insertion, and losing connectivity on large transfers or under high cpu load (playing mp3's) caused me to give up on it.

I bought a 3Com 3C19250 and it has none of the above problems.

The Linksys seems to work fine in my IOpener once I updated the pegasus.o module on the Jailbait image though. It seems that the problem is in the driver, and not the hardware, but there aren't any stable drivers available on WindowsME for the Linksys 10/100.

04-23-2001 06:52:42

New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) san472
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Thanks frogking, clawde, I'll check them out.

Clwade, just wondering, did 3Com provide a Me driver for your adapter, you used a 98 driver, or was it from Microsoft? Saw two people in deja.com complaining about a newer model of this adapter didn't have a Me driver. Was wondering if it's okay to use the 98 driver or if MS provides one if I do get one of the 3Coms.

aadam12, surprisingly it actually works right now - 4 hours straight - but I'm just streaming internet audio with Media Player @ 28Kbps. I haven't touched it, just left it alone. I wonder if this is a bandwidth problem... I'm on a 1.5Mbps DSL and I can always kill the LinkSys when downloading at close to that speeds. Have you tried downloading at least 40MB, and at more than 1Mbps with yours? Could you share your LinkSys settings under the Networking control panel?

04-23-2001 19:45:42

New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) san472
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Dead again. I tried to download Win2K SP1 and poof.
04-23-2001 19:49:51

New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) clwade
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I'm using the one that 3Com supplies:

http://consumer.3com.com/usbnic/

The filename is usb1_25.exe

I'm not sure which versions of windows are supported, but I had no problems with WindowsME.

I'm using an Intel Anypoint HomeRF at the moment, I'll be using the 3com for mp3 streaming once I get up in the attic and do some cabling.

I did do extensive testing with the 3com, did not have a single problem. Downloaded driver files over ftp that would consistantly crash with the Linksys. Successfully audited Samba mounted mame rom directory 2500+ rom packs, again, would always crash with the Linksys. Streamed mp3s for over 24 hours straight via Samba, no problems, Linksys would crash before a couple of hours. Ran gPhotoShow screen saver with images on Samba mount, image size ~600KB each, 15 sec interval, no problems for the day that it ran.

04-23-2001 22:20:06

New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) san472
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Sounds great! I'm ordering the 3Com...
04-24-2001 00:37:29

New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) aadam12
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I haven't touched the default settings for the LinkSys.

ADVANCED TAB SETTINGS:
Connection Type - AutoSense
Flow Control - Disable
Flow Control Base Rx Size - Disable
Flow Control Base Tx Packets - Disable

I set up the BIOS according to this messageboard.

I'm using internet connection sharing thru a cable modem. My desktop pc (the one that shares the modem) also runs WinME.

I was able to copy a 45MB mpg video file from my desktop pc to the WP no problem. However, the LinkSys does get QUIRKY sometimes. The suspend button has really helped though. Maybe one of these days I'll invest in the 3Com adapter. Other people have reported that the LinkSys works fine with their desktop computer so I'm not sure why there is a problem specifically with the WP.

Do you get the green light or the orange light on your LinkSys? I get the orange light. If the green light comes on, the system hangs. Green light means you are connected at 10Mbps and orange means 100Mbps. So orange is good.

04-24-2001 06:27:20

New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) san472
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I have the same LinkSys settings, followed the BIOS settings, and I have the suspend button working too. But I have the reverse in lighting - green means 100Mbps, amber means 10Mbps in mine. I can confirm that using the 100Mbps light in my RT314 router. What version is your LinkSys? Mine is 3.0. But I tried forcing it either way in the settings and it always dies eventually.
04-24-2001 09:32:55

New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) aadam12
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What do you mean which version? I'll have to look, my LinkSys came with the WP when I bought it on E.Bay

By the way, I never tested the speed. I just read thru this document:

ftp://ftp.linksys.com/pdf/usb100txug.pdf

Page 5 explains the orange/green lights

Does USB actually achieve 100Mbps speeds anyway? Check out this chart

04-24-2001 13:30:32

New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) san472
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It looks like we have different versions. That probably explains why yours is more stable. Here's a picture of mine: http://a.postmypic.com/a.nsf/Z/linksysQQLE/$file/linksys.jpg

The version is below, and there's a description of the lights in the middle.

Yeah, USB's max is 12mbps. I'm guessing with a 100mbps USB adapter, you just get an extra 2mbps, or maybe it's just there to allow you to connect it into a 100mbps hub.

04-24-2001 17:04:07

New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) aadam12
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OK, I just looked on the back of mine and it's the SAME as yours.
The sticker has the same ver 3.0 and green-100Mbps amber-10Mbps.

Hmmmm??? Let's see...

My setup:

  • Netgear EN104 Hub.
  • PC has a 3Com NIC card (3C90X . . . Not sure of the exact card, sorry)
  • I was using a crappy Netgear card before and it always cut-out.
  • TCP/IP is the ONLY protocol I have on the network.
  • WinME on WP and PC with Internet Connection Sharing
  • No firewall on the WP.
  • Zone alarm on my PC.

    I have USB legacy support ENABLED in my BIOS.

    Typical re-boot

  • After system hangs - unplug USB - unplug WP
  • Boot into safe mode
  • Restart into WinME - wait until it finishes
  • Plug-in the USB - it usually cuts out once after that.
  • Just unplug, wait 10 seconds and plug it back in.

    After that little re-boot routine there are no problems.
    Now I always put the WP into suspend mode so I don't have to deal with the re-boot mess.

    Hope this info helps.

    aadam12


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  • 04-24-2001 19:24:40

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) clwade
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    aadam12,

    That's pretty similar to the results that I was receiving with my Linksys. I hated the reboot mess, and figured that my wife would never be able to get it working on her own if required.

    Had the power button set up the same as you. Had to disable powering down USB NIC on suspend, otherwise tended to run into the problem with the card not coming up properly as with initial reboot.

    Are you having any problems streaming mp3's? I did, most of mine were gogo compressed 128Kbps/VBR. I could not get it to play a looped Samba mounted playlist overnight. Most times it crashed within a few songs.

    Are you able to download large files via web or ftp? I made four attempts at downloading my printer drivers off Epson's site. This was a ftp connection with throughput that was quite high. It would crash in different places each time, but would always crash.

    Lastly, I mounted a rather large mame roms directory on my Samba server. I've got over 2300 rom images in one directory. I tried to do a game audit with the Linksys, it would never complete. My other mapped drives (mp3's, screensaver images) would just stop responding after the attempt. The audit would finish, but it would say that all the zips were missing roms, I think that it could not open any of the zips and this is how mame interpreted what it was experiencing.

    The Linksys seemed to be fine for general web browsing and copying files via SMB, however, you could count on it failing when the combination of high network load and high processor load were both present.

    The driver that I was using came off Linksys' web site usb100tx.zip. The .inf file has a date of May 17th, 2000, and incidentally says that it is for Windows98. I did not do an checksum on them, but it looks like the files in the WindowsME and Windows98 directories in the .zip are the same. I believe that this adapter could work reliably under WindowsME, though the drivers aren't up to snuff without a little more horsepower than the Webplayer can provide.

    04-24-2001 23:05:01

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) san472
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    Here's my setup:
  • Netgear RT314 router
  • PC has SMC EZ Card 10/100 (SMC1211TX)(**)
  • TCP/IP is the only protocol in WP, although I still have NetBEUI in my main.(**)
  • WinME (also tried the 98 on DOC) on WP and WIN2K in PC, no ICS.
  • No firewall in the WP, ZoneAlarm on my PC.
  • WP's Me is completely bare. I just installed it.
  • I have USB legacy support set to enabled.

    (**) I'm bouncing directly from the WP to the router then to the net though, so it probably doesn't matter.

    I tried my best to copy your reboot routine, but it still dies after a while for me.

    I think I can only keep the WP working if I can limit the speed, like 28kbps. I'll probably play around with those MTUs and RWINs registry settings and see if I can drop the speed.

    Anyway, 3com is on order. If this doesn't work, then I have a backup. If that doesn't work, then I'm going to run over this sh*t with a car.

  • 04-24-2001 23:16:17

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) aadam12
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    Once I finish the reboot routine . . .

    Using Winamp Lite I can stream mp3 from my pc with no problems. That's my main use for the WP. It's sitting on top of my stereo and plugged into the amp. Other mp3 programs seem to eat up too much cpu time and cause problems.

    I can also stream internet radio over the web. There is some delay when streaming video though (using Windows Media Player 7). I guess the 200Mhz processor just isn't fast enough to keep the audio & video in sync. Video plays fine when the file is on the WP's hard drive.

    I downloaded the Famewolf DOC image (35MB) Transfer Rate shows 45.5KB/Sec and the download took about 10 minutes.
    I also tried some driver downloads from various sites (8MB to 10MB files) Transfer Rate about 200KB/Sec - no problems.

    Did you add a CPU fan like the Tennmax Lasagne? I did and it reeeeally cools things off. Heat may be causing your USB to cut out. Those USB connectors are right near the CPU on the mobo.

    04-25-2001 06:10:29

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) san472
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    Sorry for the delay. I'll try and run a fan on it later today and see if it works.
    04-27-2001 09:23:19

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) san472
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    I used 3 12V 80mm fans and a bench power supply. Two of the fans sat on the now empty modem side with air flowing towards the IDE connector side. The third fan was placed directly above the CPU heatsink with air blowing into the CPU. The room temperature was about 60F.

    For the test file, I made a 90MB junk and placed it on a web server.

    So did it work? Maybe... I had somewhat better success at transferring the entire 90MB file than I did before, but it was still unstable. I'd say 70% of the time, the connection still freezes. Here's one test that made we wonder if its heat: Downloaded 90MB file successfully, waited 5+ minutes, second download failed at 3MB. With 5 minutes idle time and 3 fans blowing in, the WP should have been pretty cool by the second download right?

    04-27-2001 13:12:18

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) bubsdaddy
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    I can confirm that the 3com is the answer. After months of semi-working usb networking using the dlink-650 I have achieved stabilty by switching to the 3com. I copied the entire win2000pro cd over the network to my webplayer hard drive. It doesn't die during the transfer or any download. It isn't the heat. It's just that the webplayer like the 3com usb and drivers. An Iomega usb zip drive works quite well also.
    04-28-2001 05:42:32

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) san472
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    What 3Com model did you buy? Also, is that a D-Link DSB-650 or D-Link DSB-650TX? I found this list of what chipsets are used by what nics:

    http://www.openbsd.org/i386.html

    The LinkSys USB100TX and DLink-100TX use ADMtek AN986. The 3Com 3C19250/3C460 and D-Link DSB-650 use a Kawasaki LSI KL5KUSB101B.

    Just curious if it maybe a nic chipset incompatibility.

    04-28-2001 10:07:58

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) bubsdaddy
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    >What 3Com model did you buy?

    D-Link DSB-650 was the model I did use.

    The 3Com 3C19250 is the one I got to work. I also tried the 3com 3C460 but couldn't get it to work at all. I might try it again and if I do I'll have one to sell.

    04-28-2001 10:47:58

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) Ranos
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    Just a quick note, I bought a D-Link DSB-650 (not a 650TX) at Circuit City today and it definitly has an ADMtek AN986 Pegasus chip inside it, NOT the Kawasaki chip every list I've seen says.
    04-28-2001 21:18:09

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) bubsdaddy
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    How did you figure out what chipset it has? Did yu take it apart?
    04-29-2001 04:46:39

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) san472
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    Hmpf... I have the worst luck. I ordered the 3C460 because I couldn't find the older one. Glad they didn't ship it yet and I was able to cancel it. I guess I'll just see if I can find the 3C19250 locally when I get some time.
    04-29-2001 08:24:17

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) Ranos
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    About the D-Link DSB-650
    yes, I took it apart. Not hard, the two halves of the plastic shell just snap together.
    I've also gotten it to work on my WebPlayer running Linux (2.4.4 kernel) but only if I plug it in after the machine boots, try to init it, then plug in the ethernet cable and try to init again. Then it works and appears to be stable. Has anyone had better experiences with it and Linux ?
    04-29-2001 19:57:04

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) san472
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    I borrowed a NetGear EA101c ethernet adapter (Kawasaki chipset) from a friend the other day and have been testing it with my WebPlayer. And yes, it works! I downloaded the 80MB Windows 2000 SP1 (SP2 is out btw incase someone missed it) from Microsoft without a problem at around ~120KBps (960kbps). I also downloaded a 1GB file from a temporary LAN web server - it sailed right
    through at around 450KBps (3.6mbps). Lets see what else... There doesn't seem to be a problem leaving it plugged in while the system boots. It works alongside or when plugged in my D-Link USB hub. It works with my SanDisk USB SmartMedia reader. Yup, I bought one for myself.

    Meanwhile, I was also poking around the LinkSys USB100TX drivers... It looks like it shares a common code with other AN986-driven adapters. A common signature is easy to spot - just search for the text "Hav Khauv" in the driver files. So I looked around and found that the Kingston KNU101TX had the latest drivers. I changed its INF's device ID to match the LinkSys' and installed it. Well, it worked but the problem remains - the connection freezes after a while. I guess it's not the LinkSys driver. Could be either the core driver, the adapter, or the AN986 chipset itself that's incompatible. Oh well...

    05-13-2001 12:43:21

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) aadam12
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    I started having problems with my Linksys adapter again so I went out and bought the Netgear. Now my problems seem to be even worse.

    I removed all traces of the Linksys from my system and installed the latest driver that was available from the Netgear website. When I first plugged it in, it worked great. I was able to transfer a large DiVX file from my desktop pc to my WP. After I shut down the WP theat's when things things got flakey.

    Sometimes the Netgear cuts out after a few seconds, sometimes it's stable longer. I tried leaving the Netgear plugged in on reboot and it gets all the way to the desktop but I see nothing on the desktop...aaaarrgggghhh

    Next I tried a complete uninstall and reinstall of the Netgear drivers left the adapter unplugged and rebooted Plugged it in and still no luck. It just won't stay stable. And I can't get the WP to stay in standby mode. My Linksys actually worked better.

    I'm running WinME. Are there any setting that in WinME that specifically need to be changed? Otherwise I'm going to return my Netgear adapter. Maybe I'll sell my WP to one of you fine folks and buy myself one on U-bid with a mini-pci NIC card already installed.


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    05-16-2001 11:14:41

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) san472
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    The only real problem I had was when I was playing with 98Lite (yes, in Me), the APM, and the registry. I don't know which one did it, but it screwed up Netgear. I re-installed Me, stock settings, and it seems to be fine now. I downloaded the 100MB W2K SP2 & other stuff, and I've had several sessions/reboots/restarts without a problem.

    Hmm, you're right about the standby mode. It's as if the Netgear is waking up the computer... I don't use standby so I never noticed it...

    I guess the minipci version is probably the best solution. I would go for it myself, but I don't want to spend any more money on this project and I'm happy with WP+Netgear right now.

    05-17-2001 08:43:22

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) aadam12
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    "I try and I try, try, try - I can't get no satisfaction"

    I was determined to make that Netgear adapter work. I re-installed WinME and did the whole install re-boot routine a few times and CANNOT get that Netgear adapter to work for more than a minute or two (I did get lucky once but then couldn't get it stable again).

    I uninstalled the Netgear and went back to using my Linksys. Guess what - NO PROBLEMS.

    Looks like I'll be returning my Netgear adapter for a refund. Am I the ONLY one getting the Linksys to stay stable?


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    05-23-2001 06:08:13

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) san472
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    Maybe its because we connect differently? I connect to another Netgear/switch - RT314, and you connect to a NIC... ?

    I even have standby sorta working now with it. I didn't take out the apm driver and made a driver to issue a monitor-on command when Windows is waking up. The power button doesn't work, the idle-standby doesn't work, but start/shutdown/standby now works. :)

    05-23-2001 11:30:31

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) aadam12
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    I use a Netgear hub connected to a 3com NIC on the other end in my desktop pc. From there I use internet connection sharing on a cable modem. Both machines run WinME.

    My standby button was working with the Netgear adapter plugged in. I did get it to work for a little while but have since returned the Netgear adapter to the store.

    Has anyone gotten the WP with the internal mini-NIC up and running Windows yet?

    05-23-2001 15:58:53

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 1 times) simba
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    I have had good luck with the NetGear EA101c USB ethernet adapter on my WebPlayer. I picked one up on eBay. I did have to tweak around with it a little at first. Now I can transfer files to and from the other computers on the home network (Linksys BEFSR41 Etherfast Cable/DSL Router). I can connect to the web with the shared cable connection. Even the standby button and standby after timeout will re-awaken with a good ethernet connection (most of the time). I don't seem to have experienced any dropped connection after a period of time.
    06-25-2001 18:47:58

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) Chauncy
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    I'm experimenting with a d-link HSB-H3E. It only seems to be happy when I use the external power supply with it. Has anyone done current measurements at the main supply with the USB ports in use? Low voltage could lock up the processor.
    06-30-2001 10:03:53

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) petejengkol
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    hi...
    just a slight correction for d-link USbEther

    D-650C is using kawasaki chip.. but
    D-650(newer than d-650C) is using pegasus chip *ADMtek*... (eventhough 10Mbps not 10/100Mbps , just physical media harware is different between D-650 and D-650TX)

    I confirmed those...
    Now, I'm using D-650 and linux... with pegasus.o.

    D-650 is stable enough under linux, don't know under windows :)...
    no dropped connection
    as long you don't put webplayer to APM (suspend). the USB connecytion working perfectly. just suspection... when on suspend, the USB power to external device is probably droped (not sure)....
    I can hook up D-650 and external CD-RW drive to webplayer with any flawless... streaming audio... transfering a big chunk of file...
    I have linux doc image for webplayer . if interested....
    I gonna uploaded to i-hacked, since don't have any space for it....

    The got webplayer from ubid with minpci ethernet version...


    Peace... hope it will help you.......

    Pete....

    06-30-2001 14:16:12

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) Chauncy
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    I think I've figured it out.
    I've been experimenting with the d-link HSB-H3E. It can operate in powered or un-powered modes. In the un-powered mode it locks up the WP. In the powered mode the WP operates flawlessly. Additionally, my optical mouse when plugged into the WP also locks up the WP, but when plugged into the d-link HSB-H3E hub (in powered mode) it works fine. I don't think everyone is experiencing driver problems. I think it's a matter of power consumption. I'm not positive but I think this proves it....
    06-30-2001 16:58:50

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) kray
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    Chauncy and other USB-users,
    I might have the right answer that confirms your findings.
    Please cooperate with me on this.
    Look for the thread 'different versions of mainboad'.

    thx

    07-06-2001 06:54:38

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) xerxes3rd
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    I bought the 3Com USB Ethernet adapter model number 3C460B. After installing the drivers, it begins to work properly. I can see the other computers on my network and browse shares. However, if I start streaming some mp3's (using either CoolPlayer or WinAmp), it only plays for about 2 minutes before the network functionality is gone. The link light on my hub is still on, but the WebPlayer has no connectivity.

    I agree with Chauncy; I believe it is a power problem. I can play mp3's flawlessly off my USB CD-Writer. The CD-Writer, however, has its own power supply. This weekend I'll be testing my adapter with a USB hub, and that should give the answer.

    06-21-2002 10:24:52

    New MessageRE:What USB ethernet adapters work? (modified 0 times) john_carneiro
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    Definately a power problem with the supplied
    webplayer AC to DC convertor 5V at 5A is not enough.

    While I was uploading office 2000 from another
    Computer on the network (using USB Lynksys 100M)
    it hung the computer
    about 1/4 the way thru it. Also when
    I plug in the USB mouse nether would work.
    Is that what everyone is seeing?

    Since I saw some posts about possible power supply
    Weaknesses, I tried a spare computer power supply
    I had and used the connector that I cut from
    the webplayer.
    This is 5V at 20A max, whereas
    the webplayer supply is only 5V at 5A max.
    With this setup I was able to install
    office 2000 without a problem. About an hour over
    the network.

    I think if you splice two webplayer supplies together
    In parallel it would work fine as well. (5V at 10A max).
    Make sure red with white wires and
    black with black wires.

    07-02-2002 08:27:27

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