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No Boot after Win98 SE Install

New MessageNo Boot after Win98 SE Install (modified 0 times) BoatGuy
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I have been reading threads and trying different things for two days. I have hit a wall. I will explain in as much detail as I can.

I am using a Webplayer with a 6gb hard drive. I have partinoned the drive into three 2gb logical and the first is Active and Bootable. In fact I can boot from it to a command prompt with no problem. I have loaded all of the windows setup files, webplayer drivers, and ethernet drivers on the drive as well. I have succesfully booted from the drive several times. The DOC is still installed.

At this point I am comfortable that everything is working well so I will install Windows 98.

After a full installation, Windows wants to reboot. This is where the system reboots but the screen goes blank with a flashing cursor. Never to return.

Please Help.

08-11-2001 12:32:55

New MessageRE:No Boot after Win98 SE Install (modified 0 times) kray
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Is it still possible to boot to the command prompt?
Have you checked the settings in the bios concerning OS and large disks?
When does the blinking cursor appear? How far does the wp boot?

Please give us these kind of details to go on. Otherwise we will just
have to guess whats wrong and that can be a thousand things.

08-11-2001 13:45:39

New MessageRE:No Boot after Win98 SE Install (modified 0 times) BoatGuy
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Ok, here is all the background.

No, it wont boot to a command prompt after installing win 98. If I just format the drive again with a /s /v it will boot to a command prompt again.

Here are the current bio settings,

Primary Master is TOSHIBA MK6015MAP
Type Auto, all cyls,hds,sect match the actual drive spec.
LBA Mode Control Enabled
32 Bit I/O Enabled
Transfer Rate is FAST P10 4

Silent Boot Mode is disabled (i like to watch)
Quick Boot is diabled (until i get it working)

Bios version is T730A1B0 and dated 02/14/2000
Under Advanced everything is default except for the following

Installed O/S win 95
Reset Config Data NO
Large Disk Access Mode DOS

Boot is

Hard Drive
ToshibaMK6015MAP
Bootable addin cards

Removeable devices

I have also swapped out the 64MB sodimm with a 128 MB sodimm. Both count a work fine.

Thats about everything I can think of. I have spent at least 30 hours tinkering with different options. Like I said, the drive and all the partitions are accessible until I actually load Win98.

Thanks in Advance

08-12-2001 08:54:29

New MessageRE:No Boot after Win98 SE Install (modified 0 times) BoatGuy
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A couple more things...

When I do boot, hoping to go into win98 it does the post, counts memory, shows summarry screen and then blank w/cursor in the corner. I have left it for several hours just to see if perhaps i was rushing the boot. No luck. In fact Kray's question prompted me to try this with the drive in my hand so i could feel any disk access. There is none. It isn't booting into win98 at all.

Anything else I can tell you?

08-12-2001 11:11:23

New MessageRE:No Boot after Win98 SE Install (modified 0 times) kray
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My advanced settings are:
OS: Other
Reset: No
Large: Other

Have you tried also to put in the original 64MB? Just to rule out the unlikely to be sure.

08-12-2001 22:45:29

New MessageRE:No Boot after Win98 SE Install (modified 0 times) colidus
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Try putting the drive into a machine with a floppy,
boot of the floppy and run FDISK /MBR, If this does not do the trick
try SYS C:

Also you may try to boot the disk in another machine, as
so you can see if the problem is related to the webplayer or
the disk it self.

You may also try to boot the webplayer to the harddisk w/out the DOC.

Regards

08-16-2001 15:49:29

New MessageRE:No Boot after Win98 SE Install (modified 0 times) Traveller
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I am experiencing all the same problems a described in this thread. The HD boots fine to a regular dos prompt in the WP, but after starting the install and allowing WIN to copy all it files, when it comes to the first reboot in the install process, it goes through the usual BIOS checks, recognises the Hard drive OK and then as soon as it goes to the HD to start Windows, it hangs with the cursor blinking in the left hand top of the screen - and goes no further. I have taken the drive out and reinserted it in my desktop and the drive is readable and bootable from there. The BIOS settings on the WP fit what everyone says to do.

I too have trawled through this terrific forum without finding any solution to this problem

However I did find and follow up on one thread regarding making the DOC the first drive in the sequence and booting from that. Having achieved the initial DOS prompt on the HD, I took advantage of this to use Hackwp (available elsewhere on this site) to load a Win98 image onto the DOC. Afterwards by disabling the IDE on the WP the WP then boots fine from this but if you re-enable the IDE interface the WP boots from the HD.

I went to the www.m-sys.com site and after much searching downloaded the DOS Tools version 4.2. - its there and difficult to find but you need it because the v5 tools-set does not have the DUPDATE utility. The 3 files needed are DUPDATE.exe DINFO.exe and DOC42.EXB

Run DINFO and check the start address of the DOC - mine was D600. The command line to run is then

DUPDATE /WIN:D600 /S:DOC42.EXB /FIRST

Reboot the machine and it will start from the DOC and the HD shows as the next drive(s) letters and can be fully accessed.

To reposition the DOC back behind the HD in the boot sequence run DUPDATE /WIN:D600 /S:DOC42.EXB and reboot.

DINFO reports the drive letter assigned to the DOC so you can see where it sits in the chain. I couldn't find and any more info on the command line parameters for DUPDATE.

This allows you to run the webplayer using the HD attached for data etc. I tried to load a substantial program that did not allow a choice of where to place temp files but there was not enough space on c: (theDOC) to hold the temporary files. If anyone knows how to uncompress the files on the DOC and move them to the HD and leave just the minimal boot files on the DOC, that would be great.

This still does not find the real solution of how to make all HDs boot and reading this forum I think many others are frustrated by this.

Traveller

11-06-2001 07:14:51

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