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Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) NEW TOPIC Soyo Li-7000, Anyone have any experiences with this "Bare bones box"? Yeah it's off topic but certainly a lot better to discuss this than a lot of the other useless comments and flames floating around this BBS. 06-18-2000 00:35:23

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ioioioinfoioioio I just picked one up from a local OEM for $150.00, I installed a Celeron 400 (S-370),64MB PC-100, 13GB Western digital ultra ATA66 HDD (Yes the onboard IDE Supports ATA66), 32X Acer CD-Rom, All these parts were setting around collecting dust so I'm glad to find a used for them. I'm quite impressed with the performance of the system (Running Win98SE) and it's really compact. The only thing I did not like was the lack of space for routing the cables, It's really tight. I think I'm going to pickup another one this week, I still have a Celeron 366 and a vast collection of parts that are begging to be used. These will make great "Web surfers" and gaming computers. I've been playing "Mech Warrior" and Delta force 2 on this one. Works great! 06-18-2000 18:24:50

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ioioioinfoioioio PS the Acer 32X CD-Rom I've had for about a year trying to find the right case for it. Every system I've installed it in previously the drive made severe vibration and very annoying "buzzing noises" I installed it on the Li-7000 and it runs real quiet! I've ran numerous CD's as a test. I believe it's because the type of mount support for the CD-Rom drive in the Li-7000 ? 06-18-2000 18:38:17

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ioioioinfoioioio Hard Drives northwest and Computerstop carry these. I recommend HDNW they have a 1 year warranty, Computer stop warr. is only 30 days and also $10.00 more in price ($159.99). 06-18-2000 19:09:11

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Orions Belt Thats a real good price, I've seen them on the web for 200.00, Also you got local with a year warranty, Really can't beat that. 06-18-2000 19:35:58

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Hmm.. The new serial-ata spec should really help the cable situation with these. :) 06-18-2000 20:59:57

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Seattle Got one of my I-opener's sitting on top of it using it as a cheap display. Makes a great way to interface a CD-Rom drive, floppy and additional large hard drive Via USB interface using the Belkin Usb direct connect. The only thing I don't like is the USB cable being connected coming straight out from the front panel of the Soyo to the I-opener, anyone know of any right angle Usb connectors? I haven't seen a link to Soyo on this thread yet so.... http://www.soyo.com.tw/product/li7000.htm Maybe later on I will get a network add on adapter for the parrallel port on the i-O. That will free up the usb connector on the front 06-19-2000 02:39:27

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Yeah. Radar Electric on Western Ave. down in Seattle carries some of the right-angle connectors, under the AMP label. Be sure to visit AMP's site beforehand and get the specific part #, because Radar's employees in the wiring/misc. dept can't find their ass with both hands. 06-19-2000 02:58:47

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Hmm.. How, pray tell, are you using the iopener as a cheap display? Does the LI-7k come with LCD support? 06-19-2000 03:00:28

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Seattle I have the i-O networked thru a Usb connection. The original i-O has had it's missing hard drive installed and running Win98. 06-19-2000 03:31:48

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Jimmy Anyone know of a good source for these on the web? The two places metioned above only sell a complete system for a high price. I'm looking for a barebones system. Thanks in advance. Jimmy 06-19-2000 11:18:14

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) diggum Does it COME with tv-out enabled, or just the ability (which every system CAN do witht eh right hardware. Onsale scammed me with that.) 06-19-2000 13:36:56

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ioioioinfoioioio Diggum, According to the manual I have in front of me it supports TV out (NTSC/PAL) thru the A/V and S-Video connectors on the back. I have not tried it. But unless you have a real high end TV set do not expect real clear video like a computer monitor. TV's like Phillips/magnavox "from experience with the web surfer's" will display a real 'Grainy or pixilated' picture. Jimmy, The average price here is about $150.00 "Bare bones" @Hard drives N.W. and at some of the other local OEM computer shops(Price match). I've seen these priced @ $200.00 on the web. I chose a local OEM over a web order just because it's local and one OEM offers a year warranty (HDNW), I do not have to hassle with shipping, insurance and delay's.... I've built and played with a lot of computers and this Soyo has found favor with me. I like it! One exception..the front plastic panel looks a little bit cheap...but I've definately seen worst! Just looking over the motherboard it appears to be excellent quality and has greatly improved over there earlier versions. I think they have been forced to improve there product due to competitors like Asus, Abit, and others. Actually now that I think about it the computer I'm writing this with has a Soyo AT mainboard running a Intel celeron (S-370) 500Mhz W/ 128MB ram, 18GB HDD, No problems with it. Been using it for about 4-5 months now daily. No...I'm not a Soyo rep. I'm not sure how well the Li-7000 is selling here, There is a large quantity available and the area may be getting flooded with them, but that means the price may go down soon P.S. According to the manual one has to use PC-100 S-Dram even though it's running at 66Mhz bus speed. That I don't quite understand why... 06-19-2000 15:48:43

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Nada-U Hey, HardDrives Northwest just closed there Lynnwood store yesterday (6-23) and is consolidating everything back to the main Bellevue store. Maybe we can expect some type of "Clearance Sale" soon? I bet they will have too much stuff to hole up in there Bellevue location. 06-24-2000 14:22:18

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) WTF? Why??? Not enough foot traffic or something? 06-24-2000 19:14:27

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Nada-U Went over to the Bellvue store and they are selling the Li-7000 for $129.00 now. It was $149.00 last week. Bought one and may play with it tommorrow. 06-24-2000 19:36:52

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Nada-U >Why??? Not enough foot traffic or something?< As a matter of fact the sales guy said exactly that, Not enough walk in customers. They have plenty of business accounts though. 06-24-2000 19:42:20

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) .......... Makes me a little irritated, I paid $149.00 and a week and 1/2 later they drop the price $20. Good little machine, I like it. Kids will like it. 06-24-2000 21:01:39

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) REPLY TO TOPIC In case anyone does not know it...There are two versions of the Li-7000, Ver 1.0 which supports only UDMA 33 spec. And Ver 1.1 Which supports UDMA 33 and UDMA 66. I have both versions and can notice the difference (Playing games) between the two, Ver 1.1 performs faster, using a UDMA ATA-66 Harddrive. 06-25-2000 17:50:28

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) NO BOXED INTEL Warning! will robinson Warning! Cannot used the retail version BOXED celeron S-370 CPU, The heatsink is too tall and won't fit under the drive. 06-25-2000 19:01:26

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) picky I wish for once they could make all the Floppy drives and CD-Rom faceplates all the same shade of biege or off white. The slight mismatch on this machine makes it look weird. 06-26-2000 00:06:14

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Getting mad I bought 2 of these so far, Trouble shooter 6.5 diagnostics program detected a bad cmos clock problem in the first one and the replacement for it won't boot using two types of brand new ram which worked fine in the first one. And yes there are two versions 1.0 and 1.1. P.S. The second one looked like it had been used and reboxed again, Maybe it was a return and got mixed up with new stuff? 06-26-2000 09:27:05

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Was getting mad OK got the local OEMS to exchange both Li-7000's and One is up and running fine, Passes all diagnostics! Neat little machine, I like it now. One happy dude. 06-26-2000 17:28:27

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) none Has anyone tried 100 MHz FSB? I've tried this with a known-to-overclock 366 celeron, and it won't even boot. Tried 75 MHz, and I get disk failures, with a WD 30G ATA-66. Other than that, I'm happy with it... 06-26-2000 18:20:01

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Nick Name Some celerons require a slight boost in the core voltage when overclocked, not more than .2 volts though. 06-26-2000 19:56:46

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) phorge Man, I want one of these things real bad but cannot find them anywhere. I am a reseller for 2 different OEM computer stores and neither one sells this particular unit. I've looked online and can't find them either. Does anyone know of a place online I can pick one of these up at? (Or if your willing to pick one up at this HDNW place and sell it to me). 06-27-2000 10:11:08

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) none phorge: I purchased mine from DXM computer: http://www.dxmusa.com/shop/default.html, (look under complete systems) for $180 shipped. It came with the AMR card, though, so I bought the 2 pci riser card from Specialty Tech: http://www.specialtytech.com for $15. Nick Name: Actually, this Celeron OCs even with voltage at 2.0 (though I do run it a 2.05, just to be sure). My guess is that the BIOS doesn't set the FSB/PCI clock ratio correctly, given the disk drive problems at higher freq... 06-27-2000 11:28:24

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Nick+Name Hard Drives NW has them for $129.99. http://WWW.HDNW.COM They are not listed on the website but the do have them in there store in Bellevue, Wa. I bought another one yesterday. They also come with the riser modem no extra charge. I'm satisfied with this little computer. It is far better than the "Websurfer" for the performance and upgradabilty. 06-27-2000 15:09:56

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Nick Name PS and you don't have to wait for any "MOD KITS" because none are needed! 06-27-2000 15:14:46

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Nick Name There is a 2 pci riser available instead of the modem riser.(Not at HDNW). 06-27-2000 16:29:49

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ..I R.. Has anyone been able to use the websurfer IR keyboard with the front IR port on the Li-7000? 06-28-2000 02:24:38

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ***** I like the fact it has everything allready there including onboard sound and looks like it can handle up to a 533 MHZ Celeron. Cool "Soft menu" for CPU Jumperless settings. I give it ***** stars for the price $129.00 and Size, plus upgrade factor. 06-28-2000 02:41:49

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ***** And one more thing, THERE ARE NO SHORTAGES! , plenty to go around at the local computer shops in my area. 06-28-2000 02:44:49

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Need new Area ? Looks like maybe a new area need be started for the Li-7000 ? But Ken/Codeman/Hardware1 may not be to interested there no market $$ for him for kit sales. 06-28-2000 03:16:05

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) netmagic I ordered one from NWHD's at the $149.00 price last week. Thanks to whoever on the PCI Riser info. How do I tell if I got ver 1.0 or 1.1 before I get it out of the box (that it was shipped in)? Size and performance potential seem really compelling Interest in the I-Opener seems to have faded; Netpliance was foolish. We all would have made it into a really Hot item and all the original target customers would have wanted them because all us Geeks liked them. Dumb on their part. 06-28-2000 05:22:55

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ioioioinfoioioio Netmagic, I have not seen a way yet to identify which version is which from the outside of the box. I've looked them all over in the store and they all look the same, No unique markings or codes. When you open the box, look at the quick start guide (Manual)it's inside the machine packaged with cables & etc. (on most machines) and on the cover of the guide directly below the title under LPX you should see version 1.0 or 1.1. Also Ver 1.1 includes An ATA-66 IDE cable and Ver 1.0 has a standard IDE cable. I have not checked the IDE controller chipset out yet to see if they are the same. If they are the same all that may be required is a bio's upgrade? to convert to Ver 1.1. ? I really like this little machine! 06-28-2000 15:13:10

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) netmagic I called NWHD back and asked if the one they shipped me was ver 1.0 or 1.1. They said it was ver 1 and that they ALL were. If I wanted to upgrade to ver 1.1 it was a Bios upgrade,available from the SOYO web site. A visit to Soyo revealed that there are two size Bios chips. One is 1Meg and the other is 2meg. They also admonish you to make sure you download the proper Bios update file because the wrong one either will not fit or it will be the incompatable if put in the wrong Bios chip. The 2 Meg chip is ver 1.1 and not much is said about the 1 Meg chip. There is also an Intel Bios chip! In my conversation with NWHD I asked if the latest price was $129.00 and was told that the salesman don't know unless they go to the Web site (where I cannot find the LI7000 listed for love or money) to find the current price. Sounds like a runaround to me but shipping told me I would receive mine July 3. Can't wait 06-28-2000 20:32:21

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ioioioinfoioioio Yes, They are giving you the 06-28-2000 20:50:27

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ioioioinfoioioio Ooooops, Don't know how I did that..... Anyway Netmagic, I was going to say they were giving you the runaround....But Probrobly some sales dude who is not familar with the Soyo Li-7000. If you try calling again see if you can talk to someone in the "Will Call" area, They seem more knowledgable because they actually see the hardware cross over the counter. They do have both versions there, It's just luck of the draw what they give you. I have bought 2 there and the first one was a V1 the second was V1.1 They will not start opening boxes to see what is what. (But they do have a cool exchange policy with receipt) Also got one at thier competitor across the street "Computer Stop" and I had the oportunity to pick out which box I wanted "Just Guessing" got lucky and it's a V1.1 too (They have both versions too). The Bios chip is an Award 32 pin PLCC (same socket as the i-Opener ) The chip as an Intel PN # N82802AB I'm going to look that up after I post this. 06-28-2000 21:14:34

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ioioioinfoioioio Well I just figured out what I'm going to use that 1 pci slot for...A video accelerator card. Glad it's there. 06-28-2000 21:32:18

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ioioioinfoioioio Here is some info on the chip http://www.hwupgrade.com/chipset/i810/index4.html I didn't make it clickable because was not sure if someone would get upset...note the restrictions at the bottom of the their page. 06-28-2000 21:38:51

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) netmagic Seems Jack @ BadFlash has more work cut out for him. Updating the bios chip, for those of us too Chicken to do it ourselves. Did you see the post about the Pci Riser card (not supplied in original box) available from www.specialtytech.com for $15.00 ? I wondered about a riser card when I bought it, and the beauty of a forum like this is the hints and info passed around. 06-29-2000 13:46:04

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Maybe I goofed? I've just noticed reading the CURRENT online motherboard specs http://www.soyo.com.tw/product/li7000p2.htm That it supports both Udma 33 and 66... (Is the current spec for Ver 1.0 or Ver 1.1?) It's then possible Ver 1.0 supports UDMA-66? Although Ive noticed the "66" cable is only included with Ver 1.1... I've exchanged my original Ver 1.0 for a Ver 1.1 so I don't have a way to actually check it out. 06-29-2000 19:10:32

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) netmagic If you got the UDMA/66 cable in the box you definitly have ver 1.1 in the chip. Does you chip read ver1.0? It would seem to me ver 1.1 is available for both the 1meg and 2meg chips but I don't know that for sure yet. 06-30-2000 06:48:22

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) redwood I'd like a settop box, with net access, thru a network, that will use tv as monitor, also be able to play DVD's on tv, ..... Is this the box I need? could you please advise what hardware would be needed... I don't have a DVD yet... Is anybody doing this now? is the DVD the same quality as a stand alone unit? ie, sound as good etc? remote control available? or, is this a bad idea? thanks for any useful answers 06-30-2000 13:35:24

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ioioioinfoioioio You know, funny how wierd today has been.....Should of played the lotto...... I was cleaning up the disaster of a shop I have and noticed a fairly new Toshiba 6x32 DVD player buried under some stuff and thought and wondered at that moment how well would it work in the Soyo.......using the TV out.......New project later this week! 06-30-2000 22:29:40

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) netmagic The DVD question directly relates to the built in video chip. If a DVD driver is supplied or available you're in. If not, you would need an AGP board with the features you want for one of the PCI slots (available through an accessory PCI riser card). This unit seems to have the potential to be a DVD player and TIVO type Digital recorder. It's size makes that a very compelling thought eg. settop box size P.S. I get mine tommorrow (Mon July 3). All I have to sweat out is the Bios version 07-02-2000 16:17:54

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ioioioinfoioioio I picked up a Celeron 533 yesterday at HDNW for $109 and intend to upgrade the current celeron 400. Should make a bit of a difference game wise. Have not gotten around to playing with the DVD yet, Been fooling around with 2 more i-Openers I just recently picked up. 07-02-2000 17:36:41

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Orion Nice little machine, Actually everyone thinks it's cute with a 15" monitor on top of it. Surprised at the amount of desktop space it saves. 07-03-2000 00:30:19

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) netmagic Well I got mine today and it is ver 1.0 all the way. Looks like it was used or at least opened before, as it is missing two rubber feet in the front and two attachment screws for the case in the back. Seems like a chance to get it for the 129.00 price. Return this one and get another or keep this one as it has the Award Bios? Anybody got any thoughts? In reference to the question I asked last week "How can I tell the Version I have before I open the box?" The Date of manufacture was posted on the side of the box and listed as Aug 1999.I would think ver 1.1 came out in 2000 something Jan,Feb ? Now the Award Bios intriques me because I know that is upgradable but to ver 1.1? I'm going to call Soyo Wedensday and will post what I find out. Would appreciate anybodys thoughts though. 07-03-2000 19:25:45

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) Uh...Ooopps. Looks like they MAY have shipped you the one I returned about 1 1/2 weeks ago. The 2 screws are still setting on my workbench. The left and right screws. The upper center one is what is holding the cover on now...Right? Also missing the floppy and cd-rom drive blank bay covers. I did a diagnostics with Trouble shooter 6.5 and the machine Failed Cmos ram clock tests. I put a large note on the machine what the problem was... Did you get a manual with it? 07-03-2000 22:14:14

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) PS... I don't think they have to many left, It took the sales guy a while to find me a different machine. Maybe it's the last one? 07-03-2000 22:16:28

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) REDWOOD thansk netmagic, hope you have good luck settingup a DVD, please let us know. So, are there plenty of these? or are they OUT? Is it time to setup a thread for this box? I have an unused WebPal :), so, I'm moving a little slower on this next one.... 07-04-2000 07:50:31

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) netmagic Well here's the latest. Went to a show today and got a 500 celeron chip (because I didn't have a 370 form factor) and in a continuing series of goofs/mishaps I got a 66 mz. chip It kind of answers the UDMA66 question because if you can't reach the fastest speed available you gotta settle. The use of the machine however is for my girlfrind to send and receive Email; so speed isn't that critical. Now the fact this is the same computer somebody sent back (discription of missing screws and parts was right on (Yes I got a quick start manual). With the failure of critical tests however does mean, it goes back. About weather they are out of stock on them or not. I think this is a current machine for Soyo; and if NWHD sold them out I would think there will be another order. If that is true I bet the new batch will all be ver 1.1 (only to compete with the huge amount of 100mz boards out there). Wishful thinking??? 07-04-2000 12:11:27

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) PS to previous post I should also mention that while I was at the show today I tried to buy a PCI riser card (for the LI-7000) thinking ANY PCI riser card would do. I was informed that PCI riser cards are MACHINE specific. The wrong one makes Toast. In keeping with the warning about the Fan not fitting on the chip, I kept that in mind when buying my Celeron. There is a thread to a place to buy both the proper riser card and the accessory Infared controller in one of my past posts and one further back. Now for todays compelling thought. Hauppauge computer just came out with a HDTV card for PC's and installed in this computer with a BIG hard drive and a DVD player and a Serious sound card We're talking HOME ENTERTAINMENT CENTER! in a very little box. 07-04-2000 16:58:09

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ioioioinfoioioio C-USA had the Maxtor 30GB Ultra ATA-66 Harddrive on sale for $149.99 plus tax this weekend, I went to Office depot and they had it for $189.99. I did a price match at Office Depot and they also subtract 55% of the difference so I got it for about $127.00 plus tax. Uh... after the price match and got into the car and looked at both boxes I noticed the hard drives were not exactly the same, The C-USA drive was a 5400 rpm and the Office depot one is a 7200 rpm. Oh well......Returned the C-USA drive and kept the Office depot one. This is going into my Li-7000 and going to make it into a multimedia machine. Going to get that DVD installed soooonnnnn.... 07-04-2000 18:10:49

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ioioioinfoioioio And a can of dark grey spray paint........... 07-04-2000 18:13:48

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ioioioinfoioioio I checked my machine and it has the infrared transceiver module behind the Red filter... I set it up in Win 98 and it accepted settings for com 2. Going to get my laptop powered up here soon and try transfering some pic's I took in Idaho last month. Just for kick's tried the websurfer IR keyboard=Nada....Tried the Silitek (A-Open/Acer/Lite-on) IR keyboard=Nada.... 07-04-2000 19:39:12

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) netmagic Well mine is on the way back to HDNW. Kyle said he is going to try to send a Jan or Feb 2000 unit. I figure that should tip the odds toward ver 1.1. I was wondering about the post that stated the checking of the board with Trobleshooter 6.5. Where can I get a copy of this program so I can check my next board? Any info would be much appreciated. I told Kyle at HDNW about the posts here and the fact that it was pointed out thatThis Board Was BAD and they resent it out anyway. That practice makes them (HDNW) look very bad. It cost me $15 to send this unit back. That with the $159. I paid with no refund to the $129 current price really shows me I jumped way too fast on this. Living in NY I probably wouldn't buy something from the West coast again either. Thanks to everyone in this thread that has been such a big help. 07-06-2000 18:49:02

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) No Late Computer Stop in Bellvue Wa. has more Ver 1.1's in stock. I was there today. They are $159.99. May be able to price match with hard drives NW across the street. 07-08-2000 22:15:58

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) JCHC Any info would be much appreciated. I told Kyle at HDNW about the posts here and the fact that it was pointed out thatThis Board Was BAD and they resent it out anyway. That practice makes them (HDNW) look very bad. It cost me $15 to send this unit back. That with the $159. I paid with no refund to the $129 current price really shows me I jumped way too fast on this. Living in NY I probably wouldn't buy something from the West coast again either. Thanks to everyone in this thread that has been such a big help. #### happens. What probably happened was the box was put in the back office, they ran out and some geinus remembered there was one back there. HDNW is a very reputable dealer around here, so I seriously doubt it was intentional. But hey, since you don't want to order from the (Best) West side of the US of A anymore, more for us. Please, confine your orders to NY - Where Customer Service is #1. /Insert gales of laughter here/ [I'm sure you don't buy ANYTHING from Japan any more after your VCR broke, right?] 07-08-2000 22:49:02

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) dual550 Quick search of pricewatch/barebones/nocpu yields a company called Aaronix.com. Beautiful unit with DVD drive in dark gray with IR keyboard/mouse for 300$ - wish it was 200. 07-11-2000 06:52:05

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) redwood or, $130 with problems? :) might be worth it to pay the price... I've been looking, and, since I know Nothing about pc/dvd's I'm afraid to jump in.... but, getting something already configgered, dvd/tv... well, it _should work... right? please keep us up if you buy one, thanks 07-11-2000 17:29:50

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) I like it! I have had a Soyo LI-7000 for a month now and am very happy with the machine. Running a Celeron 533 and 128mb pc-133 S-Dram with a maxtor 20gb ATA-66 drive and Win-98. Very responsive system. No blue screens yet! I like the soft menu. (Jumperless) 07-11-2000 22:28:46

Overclocking ability of Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) humbao Has anyone tested the suitability of overclocking celerons on this? Other than not being able to jam in mega-coolers into it, does the motherboard support bus speeds over 100 and cpu voltage adjustments? 07-13-2000 15:02:27

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ioioioinfoioioio I tried overclocking a celeron 366 @ 550 did not even want to boot.... It does support 100mhz bus and higher? (Shows higher settings in the bios setup). 07-14-2000 15:31:53

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ccaper Profile | Email I just got my Li-7000 in today from HDNW, and I was lucky enough to get v1.1. My question is, the manual sez that it will only take a Celeron up to 500mhz, but I would like to put a 533 in there (533 is the fastest you the motherboard should take for that type of CPU socket). Can a 533 be done? Has anybody successfully done this? Did the BIOS have to be upgraded? Any help greatly appreciated, as I am very eager to order my CPU. -Christian 08-14-2000 15:05:34

SOYO USA Website (More Info, Updates, etc.) (modified 0 times) ccaper Profile | Email Hey folks, last night I found a SOYO USA website that looks to be better maintained than the TW website. Here is the link to the base page: http://www.soyousa.com/ . Interesting things to note: there is a _slight_ update/amendum to the v1.1 manual (http://www.soyousa.com/manuals/addendum/ali7000-01.pdf, which is linked from http://www.soyousa.com/manuals.html ), there appears to be driver update for the onboard sigmatel audio codec Intel 82810 (Whitney) chip M/B for Win95-98-98SE-NT (http://www.soyousa.com/drivers.html ), if you fry your BIOS, they will send a new one for $35 or reprogram it for $15 (http://www.soyousa.com/faqs1_bios.html ), there appears to be a BIOS update (http://www.soyousa.com/686bios.html#7IWL/T ), and _MOST IMPORTANT_, it appears that the LI-7000 can only support a max CPU of a Celeron PPGA 500 MHz (http://www.soyousa.com/faqs1_cpu.html ). Questions I still have: Someone here posted that they installed a 533 Celeron MHz CPU, was it a FC-PGA, or a PPGA? Is it running at 533 MHz, or just 500 MHz? The BIOS update says it is for 4 MB BIOS's, but I thought this had a 2MB BIOS in it, what is the scoop here? Furthermore, the BIOS update release date says 08/25/99, but my manual says it was published 9/99, what are the chances my motherboard already has the new BIOS in it (my motherboard is the v1.1)? Well, I hope this helps some folks. If anybody can clear up any my issues, please post here or reply to me. Thanks. -Christian 08-16-2000 09:22:17

Web Site Sales of LI-7000 (modified 0 times) ccaper Profile | Email Here is a Website that is selling v1.1 of the LI-7000 for $149, and they have the dual PCI riser card for $12: http://www.onlinepcoutlet.com/product/barebone/barebone.htm Hope this helps!!! -Christian 08-16-2000 09:39:47

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) redwood Profile I lose track of this thread, anyway to move it to its own topic? thanks opps 08-16-2000 11:20:43

Soyo Answers on CPU Speeds (modified 0 times) ccaper Profile | Email Hi folks, got this reply back from Soyo technical support. Hope it helps. "Dear Customer, this motherboard with the new bios that we are going to be releasing will handle up to 600. I have tested the 600MHz CPU on this unit with a new bios that has not been released. with the old bios you can only go up to 533MHz." They still haven't clarified if the board will take the newer FC-PGA Celerons, or just the older PPGA's. Fired another question asking about that back to the tech guy. Hope I hear back soon. But it appears a new BIOS will be coming out soon. -Christian 08-16-2000 14:36:18

FC-PGA vs PPGA compatability (modified 0 times) ccaper Profile | Email Hi folks, me again. Starting to wonder if I am the only one here that reads this board anymore. Anyway, got another resonse back from Soyo tech support concerning if the LI-7000 will support the FC-PGA Celerons. This is what they had to say: "you can use a P-PGA at the moment but for FC-PGA we need to release a new bios. With Regards Saeed," This is really interesting for a new BIOS upgrade to support the FC-PGA. The FC-PGA Celerons are better (older ones had a slight bus bottleneck problem), plus they go to a higher MHz than the PPGA's (FC-PGA's go up to 700 MHz at the moment, the PPGA's max at 600 MHz I think), and are a little cheaper when they were both produced at the same MHz as the PPGA's. Hope this helps. -Christian 08-16-2000 20:59:20

CPU Clock Speeds, BIOS Settings, and CPU Temps (modified 0 times) ccaper Profile | Email Hey Folks, got this email from I-hacker reader John F. Jones, and I thought it could help. Here is what he found: "Altho the manual does not show it, the bios setup for the CPU lists an 8x multiplier (8x66= 528) and that is the 533MHz setting." "The Hardware monitoring software (Bios & a Windows program that is included on the install disk) both have the CPU temp monitor values set too low - My 533 is running about 55 to 65 degrees and the alarm was going off at 60. I looked on Intel's site and the max temp on the 533 is supposed to be 70 degrees, so I reset both programs." I found the temp. problem to be very interesting. John went on to note that he is using a slim line fan so he could fit a 2nd hard drive in where the floppy drive is suppose to go, and that might be resulting in less efficient cooling. -Christian 08-21-2000 10:00:06

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) ckbone Profile I may have just seen a new version of the BookPC. I described it here: http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=technical&Post=1590&Idle=10&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session= Does anyone in this thread know anything about it? 08-21-2000 16:27:24

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) info Profile Computerstop in Seattle still has a few (6) of these left @ 159.99 10-03-2000 20:25:27

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) info Profile The above post was for the Soyo L-7000. I did get a Celeron 533 installed and it runs fine. 10-03-2000 20:38:52

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Recently fished a "Barebones" Li-7000 out of a local dumpster...Like NEW condition after cleaning up case with alcohol and paper towels, no scratches. Insides clean. Got a Celeron 466 and 500 locally both for $55 total. Machine boots fine! Bios reports stable Cpu temps and good voltages! Power supply good! Fan quiet. Gosh I LOVE SEATTLE! A geeks haven! http://www.soyo.com.tw/product/li7000p4.htm 12-24-2001 12:48:38

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) keith721 Profile i am envious of your persistence and good fortune when immersing yourself in the waste receptacles of major corporations and retail outlets i just can't bring myself to say the term dumpster-diving 12-24-2001 14:57:27

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Latest rev. for the soyo Li-7000 bio's, file name: 7iwl4ba2.ZIP release date: 02/20/2001 BIOS revision: 7IWL-T_4BA2 Changes: Support VIA Cyrix III A / VIA Cyrix III cpu. (600MHZ) http://WWW.soyo.com.tw keith721, Most of the trash usually consists of bags of used styrofoam shipping peanuts,wadded up plastic shrink wrap from incomming shipping pallets,box banding,cardboard and styrofoam shipping fillers,some empty boxes that someone was too lazy to toss in the recycle bin next to it...And Technical discards, my favorite! It's actually not at all very gross compared to a restaraunt or grocery store dumpsters. I stay away from those, nothing Kool in there PeeeuuuWWW! With all that, it's VERY rare any of the stuff touches my clothes. I have several types of long handle retreval tools I've devised and they work quite nicely. I can stand outside of the container and sort thru the material quite efficently without getting dirty. I do carry a large box of latex medical gloves with me and wear them (It is cold/flu season)and also a bottle of liquid antiseptic soap and roll of paper towels just in case... PS I have done actual DUMPSTER DIVING (crawling in the dumpster) as a last resort in obtaining small bits of geeks treasure but it had to be WELL worth it! Intermec used to be one of my favorites (Moved), TONS of small bags of parts! 12-24-2001 16:25:06

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile One of my old favorites! http://home.intermec.com 12-24-2001 16:35:01

RE:Soyo Li-7000 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile I would like to thank my Kitty "Fraidy cat" for pointing out why the Li-7000 I found in the dumpster occasionally froze during "extensive" burn in diagnostics on the bench, It had me stumped for awhile... The ps-2 keyboard connector had been stressed a little to much by the previous owner and there is an intermittant connection! Every time the cord was moved it caused the machine to freeze. I'll pull the MOBO later and resolder the ps-2 connector. That should solve the problem. Found this out while she was playing with the ps-2 extention cord hanging from the back of the machine to the "Dauphin" mini keyboard up on the bench. Thanks "Fraidy Cat! 12-27-2001 17:23:15

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