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New MessageRise 266 Running Hot --- (modified 0 times) idxman
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Hi folks.. What are you getting for an avg temp (idle/active/etc.)? I'm worried that its getting too hot and I don't want to fry anything..

Setup:
v4
rise 266 w/ Tennmax fan
Cut RF for the fan
9.5mm IBM Travelstar
running win98 & linux
(all temp samples were from 98)

--------- Idle/Running dnet rc5 (F)
Assembled: 110 / 117-120
No case w/RF: 103 / 110

I've seen posts where their avg heat was at 37-38c (98-100) with a high of about 45 (113).. I'd like to keep the outer casing intact, but I don't like these temp readings so far.. The main usage for my 2 io's will be for internet browsing and mp3 stations which I'd like to have active 24/7..

BTW, the 120F top reading could have been higher, but I only let dnet run for a few minutes...

Any ideas on how to cool this thing down a bit more ?

-r

11-23-2000 21:35:50

New MessageRE:Rise 266 Running Hot --- (modified 0 times) ckbone
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Before upgrading to a pentium 200, I only used the RISE chip in my v4 for a few days. It seemed to run slightly hotter than my v2, winchip2, lasagna fan, set up like yours. On the v2, I see a max temp of 38/39c, running mp3s. A few things to do: Get a cpu cooling program....I've used CPU Idle and CPUCool. Both work great, both lower temps 3 to 4c. Other programs should do the same. Make sure your lasagna fan is sitting flat on the chip. If there is not perfectly flat contact between the fan/heatsink and the cpu, heat transfer will suffer. I scraped off the little pad, and use thermal transfer compound (Radio Shack). Badflash apparently doesn't like the stuff, but I've used it for years on heatsinks without any trouble. A small coating on the contact area will eliminate any air gaps, which impede thermal transfer. Last, as a final resort, you could cut the case (plastic) area over the fan. That plastic area is limiting air-flow, and making the Lasagna noisier than it needs to be. It's your I-Opener....who cares if there is a small square hole over the fan? My V4 with a Pentium 200, has the hole cut out completely to accomodate a larger fan and heatsink, running on an external power supply. Many people on this board don't seem to care very much about temperatures, and cooling.....some routinely report temps over 55c. I will guarantee a longer life for your computer, if you can make it run cooler. Heat kills electronic devices, the I-Opener is no exception. One more thing....I have a small 3" desk fan sitting behind my v4, it blows all the time whie the I-Opener is running (better safe than sorry).
11-24-2000 06:09:55

New MessageRE:Rise 266 Running Hot --- (modified 0 times) idxman
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Thanks ckbone. I've noticed that it actually runs quite a few degrees cooler linux.. I finally got X going so I dorked around with that for awhile and the temp stayed around 35c CPU and +/- 37.7c MB. (This was fully assembled. It was about 3c cooler without the case)

For some reason the RISE doesn't look like it has a pad. There is a raised section, but it definitely isn't a soft pad -- more like part of the chip. Is there an option to put another fan in there to blow air over the cpu & hdd? (and then out the side of the case) ie: Is there source for another 5v of power?

Then again we run into more of a noise factor..

I just have to get my SMC2202 working in Linux, then I'll get rid of 98.. I should be fine with a 35c operating temp..

-r

11-24-2000 09:27:53

New MessageRE:Rise 266 Running Hot --- (modified 0 times) ckbone
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The pad I was refering to, was on the Lasagna. These thermal pads do not work as well as two flat metal surfaces against each other. The compound just fills in small air pockets. Those pads are used for convenience sake only, and do not transfer heat very well. They are relatively soft, foamy, not what you want to transfer heat.

I really don't think you need a second fan, unless you are over-clocking with the AMD mods. Tackhead has posted some pictures of a small fan setup...he mounted one in the edge channel, blowing air over the side of the cpu and heatsink. He's got his running an AMD setup, and needs all the cooling he can get.

11-24-2000 16:48:17

New MessageRE:Rise 266 Running Hot --- (modified 0 times) Tackhead
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ckbone: Yup. My fan setup is adequate for cooling the WinChip 200 CPU at 200, or the K6-III CPU at about 233 or so. I wouldn't trust my fan config at 300. The CPU would be on the high end of acceptable, but Q16 gets no relief from the fan.

idxman: IIRC, Linux HLTs the CPU when it's idle, while W98 and NT sit in a busy-wait while idle. If that's true, that explains your "Linux runs cooler" results.

Since you're using the Tennmax, you should get better cooling than I did. (There's a post in the "very technical" section with a huge pile of my readings for a stressed system in Win98).

I'd try removing the Tennmax and putting it back on. It could be as simple as a bubble of air in the wrong place.

11-27-2000 10:19:57

New MessageRE:Rise 266 Running Hot --- (modified 0 times) idxman
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Thanks tack. I found several other posts with temp comparisons, so it looks like I'm fine being in the 30's & low 40's. I have to take out the fan/hdd/cable to test another IO, so I'll have a good excuse to reattach for good contact..

-r

11-27-2000 15:56:06

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