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New MessageI-Opener Overbilling (modified 0 times) WntrTxn
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I was billed $21.95 on November 20th on my Master Card even though I canceled my account in April. When I called they said they switched to a new billing system and many people had called to say they had been billed twice. If you ever gave your credit card number to them, check your bill.
11-29-2000 07:37:29

New MessageRE:I-Opener Overbilling (modified 0 times) ASPguy
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people here don't use netpliance services? i know of not 1 single person. this community is actually about the opposite, being able to modify the iopener to use our own services and operating systems.
11-30-2000 12:00:21

New MessageRE:I-Opener Overbilling (modified 0 times) froo
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ASPguy, this could apply to those of us who ordered our I-openers directly from Netpliance. Even though most of us cancelled the service immediately, they still have credit card info... seems reasonable to warn us that Netpliance might start charging those cards again due to a change in their billing system. Personally, I've cancelled the card I used to order mine originally.
12-01-2000 11:53:17

New MessageRE:I-Opener Overbilling (modified 0 times) h2oboxer
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While I don't use the service myself, I agree
that it is a good thing that people are made aware of what NPLI is doing. Also, I don't think that any one person should presume to speak for the entire "community"
12-01-2000 12:14:19

New MessageRE:I-Opener Overbilling (modified 0 times) ruel
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The I-Opener overbilling problem is affecting 3000 people according to a person in the Netpliance I-Opener Customer Care department.

I agree with WntrTxn that all purchasers of the I-Opener should check their VISA, MASTERCARD accounts. Those *#*@$\/.,..,#4)!!! people at Netpliance hit my VISA with six overcharges of $250 each for the annual internet subscription fee. They were supposed to provide a refund for the first overcharges, but someone at their finance department put in three more overcharges instead of doing refund chargebacks. That's $1500 in illegitimate overcharges. Add the original $99 for the I-Opener device and add the $250 for the current internet subscription year which is only in it's sixth month, and that's $1849 for the I-Opener. I could've bought two to four new computers for that money.

I got the I-Opener for my Aunt because of it's easy-to-use internet access and now look at the trouble it's causing me six months after the original purchase.

I've called the Netpliance I-Opener Customer Care 800-telephone number a half-dozen times and today, December 7, 2000, a Customer Care person admitted to me at that there were 3000 subscribers who have been affected. The illegitimate overcharging began during the middle of November 2000. The person I spoke to said my case was the worse he has seen.

Netpliance recently changed its business plan. It would have been nice if they did not also change their billing system, as reported in WntrTxn's post, which apparently caused the customer accounts billing problems for 3000 people.

So far, there has been a small refund, but I'm still waiting for a full refund of all illegitimate overcharges. Netpliance and the I-Opener used to be on my favorites list of internet countertop appliances, but no longer. What happened to me would provide more of a reason as to why internet devices should not be sold for use with only one internet service when you're only getting basic internet.

ruel

12-07-2000 20:22:05

New MessageRE:I-Opener Overbilling (modified 0 times) Randy
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I agree that this is a legitimate issue that could reasonably impact a number of people here for several reasons. I also agree that ASPguy certainly doesn't speak for anyone except himself (and that goes for the rest of us as well -- we only speak for ourselves).

Before you jump ASPguy's ass, however, please keep in mind that he NEVER CLAIMED he was speaking for anyone else, and he is certainly entitled to his opinion irrespective of anyone else's opinion.

Randy

12-07-2000 20:54:25

New MessageRE:I-Opener Overbilling (modified 0 times) ruel
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I'm still waiting for more real progress on the full refund and reimbursement for my terrible overbilling situation with the Netpliance I-Opener company. In meantime, I've posted a page at my website reproducing my above-posted message:

http://ruel.net/top/box.news.iopener.overbilling.20001207.htm

My website covers interactive TV and set-top boxes, and would naturally cover news about other internet appliances including internet countertop devices like the Netpliance I-Opener.

Cheers to all during this Holiday season - except not to the Netpliance folks unless they provide me and everyone else with full refunds and reimbursements.

-ruel

12-08-2000 20:26:29

New MessageRE:I-Opener Overbilling (modified 0 times) ruel
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For those following this message thread, my VISA account shows $750 has been refunded for the first three overcharges in the case of my account with Netpliance. But I'm still waiting for full reimbursement and refund on the subsequent three overcharges. So if there is progress in my case, that should mean there may be progress with the refunds for the others affected in the Netpliance overbilling situation.

-ruel

12-11-2000 08:22:31

New MessageRE:I-Opener Overbilling (modified 0 times) ruel
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For my particular case, thank you to Netpliance for refunding the $1500 overcharges. But no thank you for the original overcharging and subsequent overcharging. Don't let it happen again. If this wasn't me, I would be laughing at the ineptitude of this situation. It was a ridiculous situation, but should hopefully be resolved for the affected 3000 of Netpliance I-Opener subscribers. If your business switches credit card payment processing systems, be sure to monitor the system carefully during the switchover.

-ruel

12-13-2000 12:54:47

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