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Clean Winows GUI Interface

New MessageClean Winows GUI Interface (modified 0 times) teksavy
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I am installing Windows 98se on my V5 IO with a 56k modem (not dsl)
and want to emulate the IOpeners GUI menu.

I am giving this to a grandparent and want a frontend that will load
the following apps:

Netzero or any free ISP
Internet Explorer
Outlook Express
Stock Ticker Program that automatically updates at intervals
Offline News Reader that automatically updates at intervals
Offline Weather Update that automatically updates at intervals


Some other ideas are to use Win98 active desktop feature or
use the old Pointcast (now Infogate) for pushing data to the
desktop.

Are there any customizable front ends out there (especially if they
have options to enlarge the screen fonts, etc)

Thanks, Teksavy

01-08-2001 16:36:53

New MessageRE:Clean Winows GUI Interface (modified 0 times) friar
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You could do it with LiteStep or one of several similar 'shells' instead of using the Windows Explorer shell, and it could look as much like the Netpliance screens as you want to make it. However, if you're going to give this machine to a grandparent, I'd make sure that it's not too exotic. Many shells (like LiteStep) need to be manually 'tweaked' from time to time via plain text setup files, and your grandparent will not (probably) be able to do this or so inclined. I don't know a heck of a lot about Linux (I'm getting there eventually) but you may be able to accomplish this with that system, but I'd say to be prepared to have to help your grandparent out from time to time.
I know I'll get flamed for this (but, do I really care?) but there are several ways to use the Windows interface, you're not locked into using it exactly as it comes from MS. It is a very customizable interface that, for the most part, doesn't have too many glitches remaining in it. I'm not terrifically pro-Microsoft, but as a choice for a grandparent I'd have to recommend it.
01-08-2001 17:39:59

New MessageRE:Clean Winows GUI Interface (modified 0 times) MattCrandle
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here is an idea (albeit not quite as 'clean' as i am sure you are looking for):

simply create an .html page that 'looks' like you want the GUI to look like and make the icons link to the program files that you want to run (href="file:///c:\program files\internet explorer\iexplore.exe", etc). add the page to the 'Startup' group so that it always launches when the machine boots up. you can even set it to open in 'Full Screen Mode' so that i appears like it *is* the operating system instead of a browser window. add an icon to the desktop to restore this page if it accidentally gets closed.

not the most elegant solution, but a whole lot simpler than messing with LiteStep.

MattCrandle

01-08-2001 20:31:06

New MessageRE:Clean Winows GUI Interface (modified 0 times) teksavy
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Your suggestions for shell replacements aren't bad,
but I think I found 2 decent solutions. Tell me what you think?
Anything better out there??

Option 1 - Talisman
http://www.lighttek.com/talisman.htm

I would download their interfaces, called "SimpleOS" or
"OS2001" or "AlaMStler 2001" for the default frontend.

option 2 - Infogate (aka Pointcast), not a shell but very useful
http://www.infogate.com

Has anyone used the Talisman Shell or Pointcast (Infogate) push technology on the IOpener? Any stability or speed issues?

Later, Teksavy

01-08-2001 21:49:54

New MessageRE:Clean Winows GUI Interface (modified 0 times) nhavar
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don't drop litestep too quick from the running. There are some alternate distro's out there for you to check out (LSD4P using :Pigeon), along with some very clean themes like Notes, 21, Desire, (my 3 favorites for simplicity and maintainability). I have tried Talisman and while it's got some good features to it configuration wise, I had problems with it crashing and not being as fast or lean as some of the other alternatives. Remember there are ALOT of shells out there, a good source to find out exactly how many would probably be http://www.desktopian.org - tin_omen's site.
01-09-2001 20:24:32

New MessageRE:Clean Winows GUI Interface (modified 0 times) dogbert
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Using profiles with a standard Windows setup gives you great config options with looks, and restricting the settings tab which when tweaked with can do damage. Using the zero admin kit form Microsoft can also force the machine to start IExplore in full screen and prevent it from being closed. All you need is to design a page that has program start buttons / Internet access etc, etc.

Dogbert.


Do not take life too seriously; you will never get out of it alive.
01-10-2001 16:19:22

New MessageRE:Clean Winows GUI Interface (modified 0 times) robohead
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There is an excellrnt app for what you want to do! It's called desktopx. It utlizes themes that you can create. Check out http://www.desktopx.net !
01-10-2001 17:38:09

New MessageRE:Clean Winows GUI Interface (modified 0 times) Cyberswine
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MattCrandle / Anyone else

I would like to achieve the same result by using the Active Desktop feature and I'm trying your approach (eg.href="file:///c:\program files\internet explorer\iexplore.exe")but IE wants to download the file instead of opening it. I can not uncheck the "always ask before opening this type of file" since according to the help button that option is not available when the file is .exe or a command.

Am I missing something here?

Thkx

02-09-2001 19:56:34

New MessageRE:Clean Winows GUI Interface (modified 0 times) MattCrandle
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html in a browser CAN NOT directly open up executable files, as it is a security risk. you can however try a couple of different things:

1) instead of linking directly to the application, such as href="file:///c:\programs\word.exe", you can link to a blank document of the correct type, such as href="file:///c:\programs\blank.doc". then the browser will open the document with the associated program.

2) check out IntraLaunch (http://www.particle.net/IntraLaunch/). it is an activeX control that allows for launching executable files from a browser. here is what their website says:

"IntraLaunch is an ActiveX control for Internet Explorer & Netscape. It is primarily designed for corporate Intranets with Win32 workstations (95/98/NT) that need to use a web browser such as IE to present menus to their end users or employees. It allows HTML links to execute anything from .EXE's to associations such as .DOC's both locally and across a network (HTTP, SMB, etc.).

IntraLaunch can also open several Wizards, a Run dialog box, map network drives, deploy smaller applications, shutdown the workstation as well as many other useful things."

i have not tried this program myself, but several other people i have talked to have said it works as advertised.

just some ideas, if you play around with it some i am sure you can get it to do what you want.

MattCrandle

02-10-2001 16:31:01

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