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New MessageMilled heat sink for HDD (modified 0 times) abenusa
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I see an interesting solution (?) to fitting a 9.5mm HDD in an IO. The owner milled out a large portion of the heat sink to accomodate the hard drive. Has any one else done this, and if so, how hot does the CPU get with this much heat sink missing? I assume the drive itself can act somewhat as a heat sink in itself, but is this good for the drive?
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01-16-2001 22:09:17

New MessageRE:Milled heat sink for HDD (modified 0 times) Tinman2
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I have seen this done before a long time ago...
It would work very well with a AMD K63+450

look into it, should work perfectly!

01-17-2001 01:56:32

New MessageRE:Milled heat sink for HDD (modified 0 times) ttn1
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I turned the heatsink vertical and added a custom mounting bracket for the harddrive. I have pictures of the mod at this site: http://kroll.penguinpowered.com/jeremy/linux/iop/iop.html The modification took a while and covers the memory, but it is a few degrees cooler than the standard heatsink. It is also very easy to remove and replace. By the way this site is hosted from a Websurfer Pro. It uses linux router project running from the Disk On Chip. Website and Operating System run in a ram drive.

ttn2

01-17-2001 04:34:47

New MessageRE:Milled heat sink for HDD (modified 0 times) ttn1
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By the way, I just looked at the picture of the milled heatsink you gave a link to. That much heatsink removed would cause some serious issues for the standard processors. Especially without some sort of fan to circulate some air. Most people seem to think it would be OK with the K6-3+ as long as it is run at less than 300Mhz. I used some electrical tape to seperate my drive from the aluminum mount. This way the mount acts as part of the heatsink, but the drive is insulated slightly from the heat. So far, I have not had any problems with my setup. It has been running as a internet radio, playing streaming audio, for about 4 months.

ttn2

01-17-2001 05:28:49

New MessageRE:Milled heat sink for HDD (modified 0 times) roper
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I've mod'ed 2 I-Opener's by cutting just enough room for a HD. In general, I've been very happy with the results. The only strange thing is that sometimes, after a couple of weeks, my I-Opener will hang and need a reboot. There's nothing I can attribute it to, but it could be a temperature issue.
01-17-2001 07:02:27

New MessageRE:Milled heat sink for HDD (modified 0 times) preacher
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I did this for my V1 IO and it has worked just fine. I also run the software CPUCool, a great little shareware program, and the temp stays consistently at 30-35 degrees, sometimes less, hardly ever more.

Make sure when you remove the portion of the heatsink that you also remove any metal filings that might be left over. These could fall onto the MB and short something out.

01-17-2001 09:04:47

New MessageRE:Milled heat sink for HDD (modified 0 times) Zogg
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I did this too and it worked fine. If you ever felt the heatsink after running the IO for a while, it's very hot at the cpu but barely warm at the end where you cut out for the hard drive. The temp only seemed to rise a degree or two F after removing this section. Using a cpu cooling program like CPUcool or Rain helps a lot.
01-21-2001 20:56:30

New MessageRE:Milled heat sink for HDD (modified 0 times) ttn1
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Everyone should clarify exactly how much of the heatsink they cut away. Did everyone here actually cut away more than half of the heatsink. That is what is shown in the picture from the link in the first post. My guess is that people who have cut away the heatsink successfully, cut away much less than half. Maybe I am wrong, but we should clarify for any newbies floating around. When I turned the heatsink vertical and improved the mounting to get full contact with the CPU, my heatsink is uniform temperature within an hour.

ttn2

01-22-2001 04:12:03

New MessageRE:Milled heat sink for HDD (modified 0 times) Tackhead
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I've done this:

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/tackhead_1999

See the "Day 7" hack for my job. I did it the hard way - with hand tools (hacksaw, jeweller's saw, file) and far too many hours of slicing. What I wouldn't have given for 10 minutes with a milling machine.

The CPU runs hot. I figured if I could keep the CPU sensor to under 60C, I'd remain within the operating range of the hard drive. But it's marginal.

My unit also has (Day 6 pics) an insanely tiny 5V fan mounted near the heatsink. Your breath probably moves air than it does. But it drops temperatures a couple of degrees, and only cost a couple of bucks at the surplus store. And unlike a "real CPU fan", this thing is *silent*. The laptop drive is louder than this fan.

Anyways, I've run my IO for several hours with hard drive mounted in the heatsink at 200 MHz with the original WinChip, and with a K6-III-333 underclocked to 200 MHz at 2.1V. Works fine, and heat remains "warm", but manageable. With software-based utilities like CPUCool, heat drops from 55C to 45C, which is on the warm side, but safe for the hard drive.

If performance isn't a huge issue, underclock the K6-III a little more. A K6-III at 166 MHz runs several degrees cooler than the original WinChip at 200, and is still faster. (There's a long post of mine in the "very technical" section from a weekend of torture-testing an IO with various CPU configs.)

The rest of the info in the thread is also right: turning the heatsink so the fins are aligned vertically would improve airflow; my "mini-fan" is the other solution. Cutting out such a large chunk of heatsink didn't increase temperatures all that much. CPUCool, Rain, etc. are your friends. The slower (and cooler) you run the CPU while still being able to get the job done, the better.

Umm. One thing to add. Find someone with a milling machine. It's a *lot* of work with hand tools. Don't even think of grinding out that much stuff with your Dremel. (A Dremel is great for final sanding, though.)

If you do it yourself, do it *far* away from any electronic components, and wash up thoroughly. Water won't hurt the heatsink pad (assuming the pad stays on the heatsink and not on the CPU when you remove it). Metal filings will kill your IO. (They're also none too healthy for your eyes - use safety goggles when cutting and wash your hands at least as well as you wash the heatsink!)

01-23-2001 10:22:11

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