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V1 (10/01/99 bios) and IBM DARA-206000 drive
Drive won't boot, doesn't give ANY error message...

New MessageV1 (10/01/99 bios) and IBM DARA-206000 drive (modified 0 times) misterz
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HELP!

V1 Iop, IMOD3 kit, 64meg SODIMM.
Boots from sandisk fine without HD (so ram is fine)

Put in Desktop as primary master, (C), format /s'ed and fdisked, set partition active. Booted the desktop fine to Win98SE-DOS.

Put on IMOD3 and put in iop. all HD settings on autodetect (as they were on desktop). Drive is detected as primary master, Sandisk as primary slave.

Then it just sits there. Detects both drives and never clears POST screen and boots HD. never has ANY error message, no "BOOT DEVICE NOT FOUND" or anything like i've seen in previous posts. The cursor moves to the line after where it printed the info about sandisk and then sits and blinks, no HD activity.

Anyone have a clue? next time i get a chance i'm going to try reformatting it/re-fdisk on my desktop, but this really really sucks. I have searched, for over an hour on this board, and haven't found a problem just like mine.

04-05-2001 20:30:04

New MessageRE:V1 (10/01/99 bios) and IBM DARA-206000 drive (modified 0 times) mrblack51
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There are two things that you should check first.

1) make sure that you set the partition on the hard drive to active. to do this, go into fdisk, and select option 2, then select the partition you want active. It should be if you can boot into windows on your desktop machine, but its good to make sure.

2) make sure the i-opener and your desktop are using the same geometry and access settings. the best way to do this is to use the hard drive detect section in the iopener bios and your desktop. make sure the numbers match on each (sectors, tracks, etc) and also be sure that both are using normal or LBA.

Hope this helps, it worked for me on a v4 and a v5 (both with patched bios's).

04-05-2001 21:01:41

New MessageRE:V1 (10/01/99 bios) and IBM DARA-206000 drive (modified 0 times) misterz
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well, I already made sure it was active. i set it active when i was working on it in the desktop.

nix one possibility, unless my mind is REAL screwed up and i thought i did but i didn't. in any case, a machine that has no active partition should at least proceed to an "inaccessible boot device" sort of error.

As for the geometry settings, that is the only other guess I have. some time today (Friday) i'm going to crack open the IO again and try re-doing the drive, paying attention to the C/H/S this time on the desktop. last time it was auto, this time i'll set with suggested settings from IBM.

after that, i'm TOTALLY stumped. :|

04-06-2001 02:13:08

New MessageRE:V1 (10/01/99 bios) and IBM DARA-206000 drive (modified 0 times) ckbone
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Other people reported similar problems...you just haven't found the right posts. If this drive was not new, I suggest putting it back in the other computer, booting to a DOS prompt, type fdisk mbr/ hit enter.....this will return the master boot record to default. Also, Badflash says his latest BIOS version detects hard drives better, worth a try. One more thing....I suspect some patricular drives require more current to start spinning then the I-Opener can supply. Try another hard drive.......
04-06-2001 03:50:36

New MessageRE:V1 (10/01/99 bios) and IBM DARA-206000 drive (modified 0 times) YouBecha
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some ???

One is what kind of drive is the DARA blah blah blah?

Second, have you tried booting in auto for the drives rather than having a c/h/s setting?

Do you have everything plugged in correctly (it is probably impossible to not hook up correctly with the IMOD)?


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04-06-2001 05:56:41

New MessageRE:V1 (10/01/99 bios) and IBM DARA-206000 drive (modified 0 times) Spike
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MisterZ, I've been using that exact IBM drive since June 2000 and never had a lick of trouble with it. My IO is a v3b that I reflashed with the drive-friendly v1 BIOS; it OUGHT to work for you, too. I'll try to research my BIOS settings and get back to you--it's been too long to quote them from memory.
04-06-2001 07:24:06

New MessageRE:V1 (10/01/99 bios) and IBM DARA-206000 drive (modified 0 times) BadFlash
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What bios are you running and what does the splash screen look like?
04-06-2001 09:17:41

New MessageRE:V1 (10/01/99 bios) and IBM DARA-206000 drive (modified 0 times) Ragnar
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I had a similar problem. Due to not having a cd-rom available I had to load 98se on one of my computers using a zip drive that had a backup copy of my win98 cd. After using the dos driver to load the programs the install would stop as you described. To fix this, I booted to a: using a floppy and then went to c: and deleted the following files; autoexec.bat, autoexec.dos, config.sys and config.dos. To be on the safe side place a "rem" in front of each line in these programs so you can restore them easily if you need to. But if I remember correctly, Windows 98 does even need these files. Hope this works for you.
04-06-2001 10:27:49

New MessageRE:V1 (10/01/99 bios) and IBM DARA-206000 drive (modified 0 times) Ragnar
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Oh, and to get start the install, go to c:\"folder", where "folder" is the subdirectory that your setup files are in and type "setup" and hopefully you will be on your way.
04-06-2001 10:34:57

New MessageRE:V1 (10/01/99 bios) and IBM DARA-206000 drive (modified 0 times) misterz
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Ok, time for a mass reply:

ckbone:
I scoured the board pretty hardcore. I found many (as you said) SIMILAR problems, but nothing that is just the same (NO error message AT ALL). I've been trying the procedures listed in the posts of people who had similar problems and those aren't helping.

YouBecha:
If you had read the post line, you'd know it is an IBM laptop drive. I got it used from a guy off of ebay, he was selling because he bought a 10 gig and didn't want the 6 anymore. It ran fine in my desktop. As for plugging in - all pins are seated correctly, if you look at IMOD 3 there really isn't any way i could screw it up even if i tried.

Drive jumpers are unset; according to IBM that = master.

Spike:
Seeing your bios settings would be nice, thanks.

BadFlash:
The IO was a demo model i got from a CC for $20 :) It's Version 1, according to all the posts I've seen. No epoxy, all pins on header. Bios date is 10/01/1999. Splash screen has "nothin but 'net" on it. CPU is WinChip v1 200mhz, no dip switches. So basically, AFAIK I have the same bios that you're flashing people with...

Ragnar:
Thanks for the pointers but I'm quite familiar with how W98's DOS works, and my IO isn't even getting that far. It refuses to even boot the drive at all.

TO EVERYONE:
I'm about to go remove it from the IO now and try it in the desktop again. My guess is that it is probably the geometry settings on the drive being different from Desktop to IO - I *have* tried every setting on the IO but maybe my desktop did something weird with it. IIRC i actually had the drive hooked up to an ATA66 controller in my desktop the first time, where i can't specify geometry settings, so that could maybe be it. *shrug* Oh, and BTW I know DOS commands and I understand fdisk switches and such. I know linux too. (the only reason this isn't getting linux is because I want my girlfriend to be able to play starcraft on it and i don't want to screw with making it work in Wine. ;) Please don't treat me like a baby in those respects because i'm not.

Final note: AFAIK this has never "called home," I've never connected it to a phone line. The netpliance system will still boot fine (if i remove the HD) though, and the bios is still dated 10/01/1999, so I don't think that it has killed itself by flashing and stopped me from booting.

Any more insight is welcome, and thank you everyone for your time.

04-06-2001 13:10:32

New MessageRE:V1 (10/01/99 bios) and IBM DARA-206000 drive (modified 0 times) * StarFish *
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> Drive jumpers are unset; according to IBM that = master.

Does this Hard Drive have a SINGLE Mode ?
Western Digital Hard Drives have 3 Different Modes (Master, Slave or Single)
I have to use Single Mode with my 3 1/2" drives.
Most Laptop Hard Drives do Master/Single with the same Jumper Setting.

Also watch the LBA/Normal Setting. Reports are they must be the Same setting on both systems

Good Luck ! * StarFish *

04-06-2001 13:44:39

New MessageRE:V1 (10/01/99 bios) and IBM DARA-206000 drive (modified 0 times) misterz
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No single, just Master, Slave, or Cable Select.

It's on master.

I think it's the geometry or LBA vs. Normal that is getting me. I'm about to go check it now.

04-06-2001 16:24:33

New MessageRE:V1 (10/01/99 bios) and IBM DARA-206000 drive (modified 0 times) misterz
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Well, it's working fine now...

All that's left is to go hitup badflash for the audio out mod for the yamaha chip, I want to be able to put this thing in the car. :)

Thanks all, and no i'm not really sure what the problem was, but screwing around with it eventually got it working.

04-06-2001 21:18:49

New MessageRE:V1 (10/01/99 bios) and IBM DARA-206000 drive (modified 0 times) YouBecha
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For the record, I don't know that a DARA drive is an IBM Laptop drive.

I don't have an IMOD so I don't know if you can screw up the hookup. With a cable you CAN screw up the hookup.

Like I said I did not autodetect the hard drive and use those settings...I just left the HD options for master and slave as auto (HD and sandisk)

I am glad it is working, but it would be nice to know what the problem was to help others.

04-07-2001 20:35:06

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