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AAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!! USB NIGHTMARES!!
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New MessageAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!! USB NIGHTMARES!! (modified 0 times) tatsu
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OK, this usb deal has been kicking my ass for long enough. I can't get any usb peripherals to work with my IO. I've tried a HP CD-RW and an Iomega zip drive both to no avail. Anytime I attempt to use them, they totally lock the IO up within 20 seconds. Before I get flamed for not doing a search on the topic, I'll have you know I did. I read the excellent thread (basically a dialog between Ragnar and CKBone) that seemed to address this very issue. Per CKBone's advice, I downloaded the drivers (the 4in1 and the usb filters) from VIA's website. The 4in1 drivers kept giving me a registry error message and would not install. So I figured I would try the usb filter drivers and they installed successfully. I also got the Cachemaster program, but the peripherals still would not work. A little bit of background on my machine. It's running Win98SE and all the updates have been downloaded from Microsoft's website, so it should be running top notch. I also have 128MB of RAM and a Winchip 2.
05-21-2001 20:36:57

New MessageRE:AAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!! USB NIGHTMARES!! (modified 0 times) ckbone
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I don't remember all the details of that other thread to which you referred. I never had problems that bad with the USB. Have you tried a simple USB mouse? If it works that probably eliminates a hardware problem....but it's probably a software glich somewhere. Try booting Win98 in the safe mode....then go into device manager and eliminate (remove) all "Ghost" devices....these are unknown devices, and all devices you know are not attached. For some reason they will show up only in the safe mode, and they affect USB performance. Don't ask why...I don't know.

I'm concerned why the VIA 4in1 drivers won't install. Try installing them one at a time. I have one I-Opener that won't accept the first driver (ATAPI vendor support I think). That is an issue with the hard drive in that I-Opener. If the USB stuff still won't work, try removing all the USB stuff from device manager...reboot and let windows reinstall the hubs and controllers. You should reinstall the VIA USB filter driver after that. This is a problem that you should be able to fix. I've been using an HP cdrw on a Winchip2 machine without problems....I also run an Orb USB on all three of my I-Openers. That thing is fast.....good luck!

05-22-2001 03:28:37

New MessageRE:AAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!! USB NIGHTMARES!! (modified 0 times) Programmer
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Try http://www.bethie.net/~programmer/FixUSB.com as well.. just put it on your HD, add it to your autoexec.bat, and let me know if it helps with your problem or not.
05-22-2001 04:49:00

New MessageRE:AAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!! USB NIGHTMARES!! (modified 0 times) zyxw
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Hi,
I've used several I-Openers with HP CDRW drives (two different HP CDRW's) and have had no problem (other than usual Windows 98 type lockups). I always use the V5 BIOS... it's run ok with W2K, W98SE and plain W98. Also have run webcams, always use usb keyboard/mouse. My usual connection would be a network adapter, cdrw, usb keyboard/mouse all hanging off a usb hub. I doubt it's a limitation of I-Openers generally, perhaps you have a unit with a problem??

Good luck (p.s. If you aren't running a V5 BIOS, try it

05-22-2001 05:21:40

New MessageRE:AAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!! USB NIGHTMARES!! (modified 0 times) Ragnar
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Tatsu,
I never did get my usb Buslink hard drive to perform adequately. I did everything ckbone suggested and even added the Buslink patches found on the Buslink website. There are several pages of info on that site concerning Buslinks problems working with winx. On the other hand, I have several other usb devices that are working without a problem. So it may just be the particular device that you are trying. Have you gone to the HP and Iomega websites and downloaded the lasted drivers? They are almost always newer and better than the drivers that come with the retail package. Hang in there.
05-22-2001 08:59:32

New MessageDuh!!! (modified 0 times) jbarr
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PROGRAMMER wrote:
"just put it on your HD, add it to your autoexec.bat, and let me know if it helps with your problem or not"

Duh!!! Either the instructions were vague or I didn't read them (probably the later)... I simply ran it once and that was it. I will now stick it in my autoexec.bat and see how this goes.

Thanks for the info!!!!!!

05-22-2001 09:15:50

New MessageRE:AAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!! USB NIGHTMARES!! (modified 0 times) Snickers
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It's been a long time since I had this problem and I don't have any I-O's in front of me but wasn't there an enable usb setting in the bios? Also, in device manager under hard disk controller you had to enable "primary channel only" I believe to get the USB going in a reasonable way. If I kept better notes instead of depending on a decaying nueral network I could be of more help.
Snick
05-22-2001 09:56:18

New MessageRE:AAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!! USB NIGHTMARES!! (modified 0 times) thbt
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My USB is flakey, too. I upgraded to WinME and it seemed to help, but my USB network adapter still causes blue screens on occassion. It's weird... it either works flawlessly, or it craps out on me quickly.

I got the "Registry Error" when I tried to install the 4-in-1 drivers, too. I think it's because your HD controller device in the Device Manager shows a yellow exclamation mark. Try manually installing the 4-in-1 drivers (there are two INF files in there... right-click on both and choose the Install option). Then install them again normally... the registry error should go away.

Also, see if your USB filter drivers were installed correctly. Even though the install program says it installed properly, there's a file that comes with the drivers called VIAUSB.SYS that doesn't get copied into my \WINDOWS directory or in any of its subdirectories, which makes me think that either A) the install program is screwed, or B) the I-Opener doesn't need the USB filter driver. Actually, when I try to install an older version of the filter driver (1.06), it tells me that my system doesn't need it.

05-29-2001 10:53:47

New MessageRE:AAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!! USB NIGHTMARES!! (modified 0 times) Programmer
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Can WinME use DOS .com files in the autoexec.bat? If so, you should really try fixusb.com, otherwise, you can add an option rom version to your bios with cbrom, wild_pencil and bad_flash have copies of the bios version..
05-29-2001 12:07:25

New MessageRE:AAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!! USB NIGHTMARES!! (modified 0 times) thbt
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I put fixusb in my autoexec.bat and it seems to help. My USB Ethernet adapter still doesn't detect properly, but if I plug it in after WinME boots, it's fine. I don't think this is a problem specific to the I-Opener... I've had laptops do the same thing to me. In any case, it's not crashing anymore. :)

And yeah, I made the mistake of just running fixusb from the command prompt. D'oh!

06-16-2001 01:19:36

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