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Spywear in Award BIOS
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New MessageSpywear in Award BIOS (modified 0 times) ckbone
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Just when you thought you've seen it all, check this out:

http://www.sysopt.com/forum/Forum5/HTML/006707.html

I'm glad mine is "clean". I can see a good opening for Badflash talents....

07-01-2001 06:10:33

New MessageRE:Spywear in Award BIOS (modified 0 times) 02U2
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Thanks for the heads up!
I'll be watching for this type of bios on the next new Mobo I buy (or find).
Looks like a lot of the Mobo manufacturers are getting in line with this. Must be big incentives ($$$)
Badflash, WildPencil and Programmer, oportunities to become millionaires? Looks like your skills will be needed!
07-01-2001 17:03:19

New MessageRE:Spywear in Award BIOS (modified 0 times) ckbone
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Phoenix and Award are the same company, for all practical purposes.

http://home.phoenixnet.com/about/index.html#fre

I'm completely fed up with this attitude, and am finding it everywhere....crap. We the consumers, need to tell these mindless companies how we feel, asap.

07-01-2001 18:40:52

New MessageRE:Spywear in Award BIOS (modified 0 times) Wild_Pencil
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Sounds like this software is a 2-part beast. Everything I've read says that you need to have the Windows tray-icon installed. This suggests to me that PhoenixNet is possibly a Plug-n-Play option that Windows would detect and ask you for the Mobo's CDROM in order to install the the tray-icon driver. It's very likely that this is ALL that the BIOS would be capable of doing -- triggering/forcing Windows to install the tray-icon so that "PhoenixNet" can live on your desktop. After all, the BIOS can't tell what O/S is running, or what Ethernet card you've got installed.

It's very doubtful that this will affect Linux-based machines -- especially since Linux switches to Protected Mode and ignores the BIOS once it gets control of the PC. Even if it shows up in the PnP scan, there'd (probably) be no Linux driver installed behind your back. (The driver would have to be part of the Linux Distribution, after all. )

I'm just speculating at this point.. until I have one that runs on one of my Lab Machines, I probably won't be the one to disable this annoying bit of code. More likely, Phoenix will cave like Intel did when they tried to add a unique Serial-Number into the CPU.

-WP

07-01-2001 19:36:52

New MessageRE:Spywear in Award BIOS (modified 0 times) NormConquest
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Spywear?

Trenchcoats? Dark glasses? Bulletproof body armor disguised as lingerie?

Ohhhh, you mean spyWARE.

07-02-2001 13:43:59

New MessageRE:Spywear in Award BIOS (modified 0 times) ckbone
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Ho, Ho, Ho....
07-02-2001 14:24:07

New MessageRE:Spywear in Award BIOS (modified 0 times) friar
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This is almost as sneaky as those ad posters in the floor tiles at the supermarket that you think you're going to trip over so you look down and... doh! Got me again!

Seriously, this is making this fence-sitter consider whether or not I reeeaaaalllllyyy need Windows all that much. Or maybe it's just Windows 98 that has this security problem, in which case I'll definitely chuck 98 in favor of something more controllable.

It's unbeleivable how these ad-pushers think they can get me to buy by treating me with such disrespect, but then again there must be a small portion of people out there that actually buy stuff they read about in their spam (compulsive shoppers?).

07-04-2001 01:54:53

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