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New MessageMidori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 1 times) ipaschke
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Hi!

I'm building a new Linux-distribution for the internal 16MB Sundisk of the I-Opener based
on Midori-Linux 1.0.0beta2 and RedHat 6.2.

It will come with a directory-tree containing the files and a build-script to generate
a bootable flashdisk-image so you can include your own binaries. Most programs compiled
for Redhat 6.2 work fine.

Right now, it includes:

* Linux 2.4.3-midori
* Netscape 4.76 (with Shockwave Flash 4(TM), but without Java(TM)-support)
* busybox-0.47
* xmms 1.0.3
* NFS-support for your favourite mp3s :)
* pump dhcp-client
* Web-based configuration interface

There's still about 4 MB of uncompressed space left on the flashdisk, so there's
plenty of room for your own binaries.

There's test-image on http://tengu.homeip.net/midori.

This version should work with most USB- and parallel-port Ethernet-adapters, but
has no support for ppp and the built-in modem yet.

You're welcome to try it and tell me what you think.

I need your input for the 1.0-release which I plan to release in about 1-2 weeks.

Thanks,
Ingo.

07-25-2001 15:34:03

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) vwbug19
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how about including support for websurfer pro ?
07-25-2001 20:19:16

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) zonyl
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I am posting this using your distro right now!

I really appreciate the work you put into this distro. I just dropped it on hdb and everthing came up without a problem!

Some suggestions for additional software:
2.4.7 kernel, rdesktop, vncviewer

I would love to help out with this distro as I have several IO's around my house that I dont care to have hard drives in them.

Zonyl

zonyl@tambra.com

08-04-2001 17:44:01

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) zonyl
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Doh! Just noticed that vncviewer is actually on here.. Nevermind on that one. ;)
08-04-2001 17:47:29

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) ipaschke
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Hi!

I forgot to add vncviewer to the "Linux" (aka "start" :) menu. It's there now and should be more obvious.

Grab 0.93 while it's still warm :). New features:

- Sound config (master volume, treble, bass)
- micq
- some cleanups

Ciao,
Ingo.

08-05-2001 14:18:54

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) wireless
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ipaschke-

I saw your IO midori-linux distro and I am going to give it a whirl. I invited pedxing (Stephen) who is putting together a virgin-webplayer distro, to join the project that chaezewhiz and I are working on in the GCT board. Check out
http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=aolgw&Post=60&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=
for our status/progress. chaeze is working on midori to work on the GCT and I am working on a distro based on Jailbait to work with the GCT, Allwell 3036N, and the ThinkNIC. I hope to merge all my work into his midori distro- that is where your IO work comes in... I would like to invite you to join us in our quest to make a distro which works on all the IA-platforms.

-wireless

08-10-2001 15:09:38

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) jbarr
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Well, I must say that this is VERY cool! For some reason, I could never get networking to work properly with Jailbait Linux without an inordinate amount of tweaking. Midori's configuration was a snap. I downloaded the latest version (.93), flashed it to the SanDisk using Dolly, reset the bios to boot off of "D" instead of "C", rebooted, and "voila!" one nice clean Midori Linux installation up and running without a hitch! Start-to-finish, (thanks, in part, a fast cable modem connection) from download to final boot, it took about 15 minutes.

OK, enough praises. Now for a question:

I know enough about Linux to be dangerous, but not enough to solve my problem. Midori includes XMMS which looks basically like a WinAmp-type program. That said, how do I use it to acces MP3 files? Mind you, I am running Midori Linux from SanDisk with no additional HDD. It is connected to my home LAN and ultimatly to the Internet. I do have a spare PC running Windows 98 as a kind of "server". It has a shared drive with all my MP3 files as well as an FTP server. So, what do I need to do to get my Midori Linux-running iOpener to play MP3 files?

Thanks in advance!!!

08-12-2001 21:41:19

New MessagePlaying MP3's from your midori sandisk... (modified 0 times) itsvincer
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Jbarr,
There are a few ways to do this:
1. Install the samba client on your midori distro so you can mount the windows share.
2. Install an ftp filesystem plugin ( I know they exist, but can't think of a name for any right now.)

3. Install an NFS server on your windows box( there are a few free ones around; check tucows or download.com) and NFS mount the share.

4. Make a playlist file that can grab the files via ftp.

If you can find a decent NFS server for free, #3 is the quickest and simplest to set up.

E-mail me direct if you need details: itsvincer@bigfoot.com

08-13-2001 10:57:30

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) Mitchell
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itsvincer:
is the samba client included in your distro? if not, could it be?

also, will .94 be out soon?

I also noticed midori has a new version with a newer kernel - gonna include that?

PS - Thanks for all your work on such a great distro!

08-13-2001 23:16:14

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) jbarr
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Cool!!!!!

I downloaded the free TrueGrid NFS server from http://www.simtel.net/pub/pd/398.shtml installed it, and everything seems to work just fine! I set up a share in a directory on one of my Win98 boxes and followed the NFS server instructions setting up export, hosts, and RCP files on the server.

Next, i tried to mount the NFS share on the iOpener, but I couldn't get it to work. Then I remembered that if you go into the web-based configuration, you can open a root terminal window. When I ran the mount command here, it worked just fine! I did a cd to the mount point and voila! there were the songs.

Finally, I openerd XMMS and added the directory to the play list. Works like a charm!!!

Next challenge: How to automate this step so that the next time I boot, I don't have to manually mount. I will try to edit fstab to see if that will work.

Any suggestions would be very helpful!!!

08-14-2001 21:34:18

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) jbarr
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OK, I think I got it. I added the following lines to the "profile" file in the /tmp/config directory:

mkdir /tmp/music
mount -o wsize=1024,rsize=2048 192.168.1.100:/m /tmp/music

and then saved the storage space throught the web-based configuration screen. A reboot auto-mounted the share and now when I bring up XMMS and click on "+ dir", it auto-adds all the files! Very cool!

08-14-2001 22:27:42

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) jbarr
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Several points about my installation:

A while back, I used a Windows shareware program called "MP3 Tag Studio" (from download.com) to edit the ID3 tag data and mass-rename all my MP3 files based on the ID3 tag content. This is a VERY COOL program, and works like a charm. The problem I encountered was in the actual naming format: Say I have a song titled "Changes" by "David Bowie". MP3 Tag Studio very nicely renamed the file to "David Bowie - Changes.mp3". In the Windows world, this is fine, but it totally choked Midori Linux. NFS would not mount any directory that contained files named like this. So, I simply used MP3 Tag Studio to re-rename all the files to a new format like: "David_Bowie_Changes.mp3" and NFS mounted without a hitch. Cool! The great thing about XMMS (like WinAmp) is that when it displays the play list, it replaces (in the list) the filenames with the ID3 tag data, so even if the filenames on the disk look ugly, they appear just fine in XMMS. (Note that this naming problem holds true with ANY type of file naming, not just naming using MP3 Tag Studio. In fact, MP3 Tag Studio allows you full control over the naming style. You just have to understand what your file system needs.)

OK, so now that is resolved. Next: Anyone know how to set up an "auto-load" play list for XMMS? ie: I would love it if XMMS would auto-load the full NFS-mounted directory when XMMS starts up instead of having to manually load it in each time. Time to browse the XMMS man pages...

Another side note: I dove into Linux a long while back (Red Hat 4.x days) and have toyed with it here and there over the years, but I never really dove too deeply. Anyway, Midori Linux is so cool because it is so stripped down and easy to understand. It just makes me want to dive deeper. Unfortunatly, the Midori-specific documentation is sparse, but once you dig, (and not too deeply, I might add) it really is pretty cool. Heck, I don't even need my HDD on my iOpener anymore! (Just more memory!)

Again, thanks for the pointers and help!!!!!

08-15-2001 07:02:02

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) soundfx500
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hey everyone one ? once i get my i-opener how do i get this file on it in the first place i would prefer not to crack open the case???
08-16-2001 08:57:09

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) Programmer
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that will really depend on the version of IOpener you have and how lucky you are.

V5- not gonna happen (at least, it's highly improbably considering you'd need to get a shell and I don't believe anyone knows how)
V4- see v5
V3- see v5
V2- find instructions for getting shell access, download image and write to sandisk
V1- see V2

08-16-2001 09:43:41

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) jbarr
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soundfx500: There are whole threads about how to do this, and as "Programmer" specified, this could get tricky. I got lucky in that the iOpener I purchased was already "hacked" with a 4gb HD and Windows 98 installed. Downloading the image file and installing it with DOLLY.EXE through DOS was a simple matter.

Good luck!

08-16-2001 10:49:56

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) Programmer
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(the not gonna happen refers to installing without opening.)
v5 requires a new bios to do it at all
v4 requires either a new bios or a hard drive that can pretend to be a sandisk with the v2 image on it
gooped v3 requires a hard drive that can pretend to be a sandisk with the v2 image on it (or knowledge of removing goop + a new bios.. not a method I would try)
08-16-2001 11:44:48

New MessageM4I 0.93 and V5 .. no audio.. (modified 0 times) toto3
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How do i go about fixing the "audio" for my V5 with this distro ?? .. New to Linux..

Thanx.

08-16-2001 13:21:29

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) dweeb
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Let me just just say that Midori on the Iopener is awesome.
I'm listening to mp3s streaming from mp3.com right now.
I have tried Midori on both a v1 iopener, and a v4.
Sound only works on the v1 iopener with M4I V0.93
(no Yamaha sound driver yet for V4 ??)

Many thanks to ipaschke for creating this distribution.
It works out of the box with NO tweeks and is much easier
to get up than jailbait. I have a Linksys USB100 ethernet
adapater on the iopener which connects to a
Linksys BEFR41 hub which connects to a cable modem.
Midori comes right up grabs a DHCP IP address
and finds a nameserver. It ready to surf the web, play mp3s,
remotely control a windows machine using vnc,
picture frame slideshow, multiple console X server, wow !!

If you want to get to a root console just type control-alt-F1
control-alt-F2 to go back to :0

Want vnc on a separate console?
set your remote PC display resolution to 800x600 and run winvnc app mode on your PC
now at the iopener type:
control-alt-F1
X :1 &
export DISPLAY=:1
vncviewer -fullscreen 192.168.1.100 (or whatever IP address your PC is)
control-alt-F3 (to switch to vnc console)
control-alt-F2 (to switch back to midori console)


Here are some suggested improvements for M4I
release a development enviroment so others can contribute
add the yamaha sound driver so V4 iopeners have sound
add an application that will allow display of a .jpg to the root console
(xv will do this but might be too big. icewmbg is already available,
but will only display .xbm files)
a minimal "convert" that could convert .jpg files to .xbm files would be a helpful alternative
voice command thru the internal microphone (just dreaming)

Any better ideas/comments ?

08-17-2001 00:00:50

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) jbarr
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dweeb: Thanks for the tips! I hated having to start Netscape and load the configuration page just to get to a root prompt. (Guess I gotta brush up on the "basics"!)

Oh, and to anyone interested: There is a small "caveat" to the NFS server setup I described above. I set up an NFS server on one of my Windows PCs to serve MP3 files to the iOpener and discovered this "glitch": It seems that I have to explicitly do a "umount" on the share before I shut down. If I just shut off the iOpener, the next time I boot, it won't connect to the share. If I reset the NFS server on the Windows side, it will mount, but that's an extra step I don't want to have to do. I may end up just installing a web server on the Windows box and create a playlist based on URLs instead. I know that this definatly works. Besides, my play lists won't change that much anyway.

More questions:
1. When shutting down, I assume that you just turn off the iOpener as the file system is read-only (unlike a full UNIX distro on a hard disk.) Is this true?

2. I'm trying to trace through the boot-up process (quite challenging because I really don't know as much about Linux as I thought I did!) The Midori docs give a brief outline of the boot process, but I am stuck. I know that a bunch of "stuff" happens at boot, then the "profile" is loaded, then other "stuff" happens (X starts, etc.) I would like to better control which programs start up in X, but can't find the proper file to tweak.

3. Related to #2 above, given the read-only nature of the file system, where would I find more information about how the files in /tmp/config are saved when you save them through the web configuration interface? Are the files in /tmp/config the only "savable" files? I would like to tweak some files (like hosts) but can't figure it out.

Sorry about all the questions, but I think this distro is VERY COOL, and when I get interested in something, I just have to learn all I can about it!

Thanks!!!

08-17-2001 07:26:30

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) ipaschke
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Hi!

Sorry, I didn't have much time lately to work on m4i... The project is not dead, I'm just busy.
Expect 0.94 to be ready real soon now :)

I understand that sound doesn't work on V5 iopeners. Could someone please send me a linux
.config-File that supports the V5's soundchip?

I'll have a look at Midori-1.0.0-beta3 and include at least the new kernel...
Bye,
Ingo.

08-18-2001 05:27:36

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) ipaschke
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jbarr:

1 -- Yes, you can just switch the iopener off...

2 -- basically, /sbin/init and /usr/sbin/init control the bootup-process. It's not so easy to change them because they're not in /config.

3 -- on startup /config is copied to /tmp/config. If you select "store configuration", /tmp/config is used to create a new (read-only) /config-filesystem. So yes, /tmp/config is the only place to store files permanently.

I plan to include a web-frontend to edit things like /etc/hosts, setup nfs-mounts etc. Hopefully, I'll have some time for this in the next few days...

If you can't wait, you can download the build-version:

http://tengu.homeip.net/midori/m4i-0.93-build.tar.gz
There are no docs etc. for it yet.

Short instructions: untar it and run "build" as root, this should create "flash.disk", your sandisk-image. Please be careful with it, if it kills your Linux-installation, don't blame me.

Ciao,
Ingo.

08-18-2001 05:39:00

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) dweeb
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Ingo,

Can you add the xli (x load image) binary to the next M4I distribution?

I tested the binary from here and it works on the iopener with M4I:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/6.1/full-names/i386/xli-1.16-55.i386.rpm
(but any xli version that works would also be fine).

This allows you to display, stretch, and rotate .jpg or .gif images onto the
X root console. So, a simple script using wget and xli can turn the
iopener into a landscape or portrait slideshow picture frame.

example:
wget -O /tmp/image.gif http://midori.transmeta.com/manual/midori_logo_full.gif
xli -onroot -fillscreen -rotate 90 /tmp/image.gif


Thanks

PS I tried saving (freezing) xli into /tmp/config myself but it was too big,
242196 bytes uncompressed. How do you increase allocation of space
for /tmp/config , and how to you determine how much space is left in the
flash ??

08-19-2001 01:59:52

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) Mitchell
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Bump to the top!

Haven't heard much here lately.
I asked ipaschke to tweak the kawasaki chipset driver (add something)and haven't heard back. Hope we see .94 soon.

08-30-2001 20:47:07

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) Mitchell
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Bump to the top! #2

Can anyone even confirm that the kawasaki chipset drivers are in .93?

I picked up a cheap but supported peracom usb ethernet and midori is not seeing it. anything I need to do to get a device 'seen'?

09-18-2001 19:25:10

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) dweeb
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Here is some fun stuff to play with using Midori on the iopener (unsupported examples)

Hubble image slide show (or make your own slideshow, just change filelist)
cd /tmp
wget http://www.hunkler.com/mark/iopener/midori/hubble_slideshow.tar | tar xvf -
./hubble
control-alt-f3 to switch to console :1
control-alt-f2 to switch to console :0
control-c in xterm to kill script

Play xmame games
cd /tmp
wget http://www.hunkler.com/mark/iopener/midori/mame.tar.gz | gunzip -c | tar xvf -
./xmame -rompath . -scale 2 mspacman
press "3" to insert a coin
press "1" to start single player game
(sound is only supported on a v1 iopener right now using M4I 0.093)
(pretty cool huh? anyone see the workings of a tabletop xmame game console here ??)

09-20-2001 04:08:26

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) Talis
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I just wanna say thanks a lot to ipaschke for putting together such a fantastic package. M4I works incredibly well, and its waaay faster than running win9x off a harddrive. I hope that PPP support is included in the next version, though, as it'd be really nice to have the modem working. :)

Thanks again, ipaschke!

09-23-2001 14:50:00

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) roswell979
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A GREAT add on would be rdesktop. For those of you who havent seen it check out http://www.redesktop.org. Its very small and works great. Terminal Services is very quick, I think its much faster then VNC. Only trouble is you need windows 2000 server. If anyone knows how to install this on the iopener that would be great. Ive been using it on my linunx machine from an RPM I found.
10-10-2001 12:18:04

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) ggoodale
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Can we safely assume that m4i is discontinued as a project? I've been waiting for months for any updates to the 0.93 test release, but nothing so far. It's a shame, too - this distro had the best OOBE of any of them - just needed some spit and polish to finish it off.

If my rumours of m4i's demise are greatly exaggerated, feel free to correct me. :)

G

10-25-2001 16:09:28

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) squash
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See the new thread "New Midori Dist in the works" for more some news.
10-27-2001 07:51:51

New Messagem4i discontinued... (modified 1 times) ipaschke
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Hi!

As some of you already noticed, m4i's development has come to a halt.

I started m4i as a toy project on a friend's Iopener. Basically, all I wanted was
to try Midori. Because of your encouragement, it grew into a quite usable distro,
but other projects are keeping me busy and I had to return the Iopener I tried my
images on.

So all I can offer you right now is my help if someone else wants to take over
the development (I read this has already happened which is great :)

Thanks for your support,
Ingo.

11-01-2001 05:21:20

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) baitisj
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Nice job with that distro!

I wish we all had more time to do these fun Linux projects; it is really unfortunate to see these really cool distros popping up and then eroding away due to lack of time. Life is amazingly busy...

Later!

-Jeff

12-01-2001 02:18:36

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) brew27
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I'm looking for this Midori distro.... anyone know where I can get it? The links in this thread are dead...

Thanks

01-04-2003 12:20:35

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) brew27
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I'm looking for this Midori distro.... anyone know where I can get it? The links in this thread are dead...

Thanks

01-04-2003 12:20:38

New MessageRE:Midori Linux for the Iopener: M4I 0.91 is out... (modified 0 times) bob94025
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see http://m4i.homeip.net/
01-07-2003 10:29:32

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