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New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) squash Profile | Email Greetings All, I am currently working on a new Midori based distribution for the IO. The previous maintainer no longer has an IO, so he has no interest in working on the project any longer. I would like if we could get a wish-list of apps for this thing, within reason of course. I will be doing considerable tweaking on top of Midori, so we should be able to squeeze a good chunk of extra space out of it. My current config list looks similar to this: Kernel 2.4.13 USB with all USB NICs X 4.0.3 (looking into moving it to current version though PPP ssh vncviewer I am debating on the following: Everybuddy (multi-protocol IM client) XMMS (Is it worth the space over other players?) Netscape or Opera... (Opera appears to be smaller but will be more work due to libraries.. is it worth it?) I am VERY open to suggestions here. Please respond to the thread or via email at midori(at)dropnet.net. 10-27-2001 08:10:10

Please, keep Gateway Touchpad drivers (modified 0 times) NormConquest Profile | Email You'll get a lot more participants, I think, if this is plug-and-play for BOTH the i-o and the GCT. Just a thought... I suspect Opera is the way to go, BTW. 10-27-2001 14:23:20

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) Mitchell Profile | Email squash - thanks. I was sad that the last distro seemed to have died. My votes: Opera jabber instant messanger (multi-protocol IM client) - www.jabbercentral.com Samba!!! that is all i can think of now. good luck! please keep us posted. 10-27-2001 14:37:27

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) squash Profile | Email Norm, I don't have a GCT so supporting that might be a trick. Not impossible, but I will need someone who can provide info and testing. Samba is a good suggestion. I will see what I can do about adding that. I'll look at the Jabber client, I haven't used it but if it works as well or better than Everybuddy, then I have no qualms with using it. Everybuddy has some issues. 10-27-2001 18:05:26

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) jbarr Profile squash, If you are still taking requests, here's mine... 1. SAMBA 2. MP3 player like XMMS 3. Netscape. 4. vncviewer 5. Should be able to utilize USB ethernet connections and configurable to talk to a LAN either static or with DHCP. I would LOVE to use my i-Opener as a remote MP3 player on my LAN. Yes, its audio sucks, but as a remote source of music, it is very cool. I have a home LAN and would like to keep all the MP3 files on one server, accessible by the i-Opener. Currently, I have to use NSF to access the files. Problem is that I don't have a machine capable of "real" NSF. I have two other Windows-based machines (Windows 98 and Windows NT Workstation) and NSF is a major pain. I would like to be able to fire up my Midori-based i-Opener and be able to quickly start playing MP3 files. Being able to specify files or direcftories of files on a Windows drive would rock! Ideally, something like XMMS could be used (I'm open to any other players that would fit the bill.) Web browsing would be nice too, and Netscape would be my vote. I have never used Opera, so I really can't comment on it. For web browsing, the use would mostly be Internet Movie Database and some web-based email. Does Midori support Java? Oh, and I have a discussion forum set up at http://disc.server.com/Indices/166346.html if anyone is interested. I'm not trying to take traffic away from i-Appliance BBS, just thought it would let Midori users have a quick 'n dirty discussion place. 10-30-2001 12:32:25

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) tucsonrocketboy Profile I don't care so much about SAMBA, but it would be nice to play DiVX movies and do the multi-protocol chat. I think there's an extension to XMMS for the movies if the right codec is installed. Also, Netscape needs the MIME type for shoutcast and live365.com. It'd also be nice to have Netscape preferences and bookmarks stored in the configuration space so they can be stored to flash through the config menu. 10-31-2001 11:21:31

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) Linuxguru Profile | Email Incidentally, 2.4.13 has the experimental USB drivers for Lexar Jumpshot cable (for Lexar USB-enabled compact flash) as a config option. This allows us to hack up a Lexar jumpshot cable (widely available for about $15-$20) to the unpopulated 2nd USB socket and let it hang freely out of the case, or tuck it away inside the case with a Lexar compact flash plugged in. I got an 80 MB card for $34.95 at Fry's. Another option in the PNY/Scanlogic USB to Smartmedia reader/writer, which allows transfering images directly from a digital camera to the I-Opener, for use as a picture frame. This is also supported directly by the usb-storage driver in 2.4.13. Smartmedia cards are $24.95 for 64MB at Fry's. The PNY cable is $14.95 at Best Buy (some of these are based on the DataFab chipset, which is also supported. Others are based on an earlier rev. of the Scanlogic chip, which requires a firmware upgrade to 0.76 to work correctly with Linux). Other possible options are to hack up the base and glue the reader(s) there, or put in the guts and connectors of a USB hub in the base. 10-31-2001 14:31:40

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) ggoodale Profile Glad to hear someone's carrying the torch! Here's my list: *USB NIC support, _including wireless NICs_. I don't want to have to run CAT 5 upstairs to my living room :) *GDM/XDM login support - I'd love to be able to use my I-opener to open an X session to my linux server downstairs. Nice to have (If I can get the above, I don't need any of this): *XMMS, or some other X-based MP3 player. *A functional browser. I suppose Galeon + Gecko is a bit much to ask, but I'd be happier with Opera than Netscape, and Netscape's better than nothing at all. *NFS/Samba, in that order. I don't need it as long as there's NFS support, but I might someday. *xscreensaver, so I can set up a slideshow of images when I'm not logged in. *some form of pop mail checker. *Everybuddy. Thanks for listening, Grant 11-01-2001 23:22:19

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) dweeb Profile Here is my 2 cents Everyone will have different wants and needs, so get the basics right and make the smallest flash load that can be customized by users adding whatever application(s) they want. First, concentrate on getting all iopener Midori hardware drivers working. sound Yamaha sound is working on V1 iopeners, but VIA 85xx sound is currently NOT working on V4/V5 iopeners so this needs added and tested in any new iopener Midori kernel. USB drivers pegasus USB LAN is working OK. Add a couple of the other most common chipset drivers for USB LAN to the kernel. Philips USB camera driver would be nice. Modem I personally don't need modem support, but others have requested dialout PPP support. I think the modem hardware is actiontech ? VMware Add M4I kernel drivers for the vmware emulated video (SVGA), LAN (AMD PC-net PCI II), USB, sound (Sound blaster 16) hardware. Why you ask ? So developers can test out an emulated iopener environment on a fast PC without actually using an iopener. This speeds up development and make it easier/faster to test out flash images. Xwindows No complaints with the last version XMMS No complaints with the last version vncviewer No complaints with the last version Netscape 4.x browser. Mostly usable in last version, but crashed a lot (locked up). No easy way to store bookmarks Launching applications like XMMS from Netscape to stream in .mp3s would die Its possible this was due the the "sh" shell not being a real shell and dieing. It would be nice for Netscape to be able to launch XMMS to stream in music playlists. Java support in the browser is probably not possible since it would be too much of a resource hog (too big). Xmame support Add support for emulation of old video games. Create a link from /.xmame to /tmp Divx support It would be nice to stream in movies for playback, but the stock iopeners do not have enough processing power to decode divx movies and audio, so its a waste of time for most users. Development enviroment Any recommendations for a iopener Midori development environment ??? Someone needs to set up a server (or add M4I to Sourceforge). I have never seen a real development enviroment for either Jailbait or Midori that actually works from source compilation thru flash image creation. Can someone post the CONFIG file for the las.1 2I kernel ?? 11-05-2001 00:34:30

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 1 times) ipaschke Profile dweeb: I've updated the m4i-homepage with some info on how to modify the 0.93-release. See http://tengu.homeip.net/midori/ It includes the most recent kernel-config. Ingo. 11-05-2001 04:29:52

Iopener as a firewall... (modified 0 times) abwh Profile I'd rather have concise instructions on how to re-build the image, as I will try to get ATM drivers and any kernel firewall tool I can think of in there, instead of, let's say, an mp3 player. Here's my case... Just got adsl hooked in Mexico City, using an Alcatel Speed Touch USB modem, which thankfully has linux drivers (http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/DSL-HOWTO/speedtouchusb.html), but I still have to play with it on linux (just got hooked yday). I also have a linksys usb adapter I bought for use with Telocity back in Miami... and a usb hub Right now, I'm using the iopener as a Internet Connection Sharing box to my athlon box... the IO has a 1.5 gig HD... runs win98 for now.. and crashes a lot! I could do a linux install on the HD (it had rh6.2 at some point)... but I prefer to use the HD for something else, and get a mini-linux in the sandisk with the necesary drivers and kernel... and a browser would not hurt!!! I'll be working on getting the alcatel working on my regular machine, and then try this... so, if posible, maintain good docs on the distribution build process... and the patches you have used over the standard midori... Ps.- I DID tell the sales people I prefered a "home" model, with ethernet out, but at some point I answered "yes, I have an usb port available" and was of no use... _____ .Gerry. ----- 11-09-2001 02:59:15

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) roswell979 Profile How about rdesktop? http://www.redekstop.org It would be a great addition 11-09-2001 08:35:27

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) wiggles Profile Definitely Mozilla or another Gecko-based browser! Mozilla wipes the floor with Netscape! It is faster, more stable and more standards compliant! 11-17-2001 17:54:49

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) squash Profile | Email Update: Development is still ongoing, but I have made a few package choices for it. gaim will be used for the instant messaging client. it supports aim, icq, jabber, msn, yahoo, irc, and a few others. Opera will be the web browser. I thought about a mozilla-based one, but really it is too much of a pig. If you haven't tried Opera, give it a chance and you will probobly like it a lot. It is way faster then Mozilla, Netscape, or even embedded konqueror. I will be upping the kernel to the current 2.4 release when it is ready for use. I will try to add rdesktop to the apps, I don't want to overcommit the resources for an app that is very similar to vnc. If I have the space though, I will add it. Right now the pain in the butt is testing this. I cannot get VMware to use the raw image that needs to be flashed, so I'm not very worried about the vmware drivers. I have had some success with Bochs, which is helping me get things done more quickly. Also, this project is happening in my spare time, and I have been a bit short on spare time lately. Once I get an image working with the above packages, I will post it as well as all my configs for creating it, I know it is impossible to please everyone in 16 megs. 11-20-2001 09:23:31

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) ggoodale Profile How 'bout a progress report? Are we close to a public beta? 12-10-2001 00:22:57

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) calisto Profile Any update on this yet as i'm having difficulties with 0.93 recognizing my linksys 100tx USB adaptor see thread "A working *nix SANDISK image" 01-09-2002 03:06:30

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) bob94025 Profile I've updated Ingo's original M4I project. My new image and build kit are available here: http://vischeck.homeip.net/m4i/ Summary of changes: * More USB-ethernet adapters should be supported, including Kawasaki chipset adapters * kernel support for the v5 Iopener sound chip (VIA82CXXX driver) * kernel support for a few other things that might be useful, including USB mass-storage (eg. zip drives and CF card readers) and parallel-port IDE (all as modules) * Added fbi, a frame-buffer based image viewer. This simple image viewer is great for running full-screen slide shows. bob 01-16-2002 11:02:09

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) cornflakeboy Profile bob94025, your URL returns a "file not found". Did you move the file somewhere else? TIA! 01-26-2002 02:39:46

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) bob94025 Profile had some problems with my DSL- try again now. The latest image has updated busybox (0.60, with a more friendly shell) and experimental support for USB 802.11b wireless LAN adapters. bob 01-28-2002 01:25:22

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) vwbug19 Profile nope, tried the latest midiori v95b on io v3 with v1 bios dollyed it perfectly to hd129 ,booting linux..................... then i get blank screen my v3 io has stock winchip 200mhz cpu 01-29-2002 00:32:46

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) bob94025 Profile OK- fixed the boot failure problem on Winchip-based Iopeners. Had to recompile the kernel without the fancy optimizations. Grab a 'winchip' image from my site ( http://vischeck.homeip.net/m4i/ ) and try again. Although, you may want to wait until Feb 2nd before getting an image. I will be releasing an updated image with improved start-up scrips, more help and summary of the installed software, and hardware monitoring (eg. CPU temperature, system voltages). bob 01-31-2002 13:24:27

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) dweeb Profile OK, so I implemented what I suggested before and it actually works and seems useful. Its a portable development environment for making custom iopener flash images. Check out http://www.hunkler.com/mark/iopener/midori/screenshots/ and http://www.hunkler.com/mark/iopener/midori/vmware/ Its a contains a slightly modified linux kernel and a modified version of Bob's feb 2 release flash build environment. Thanks Bob for your help and improvements. Any suggestions (tested) on my remaining listed problems would be appreciated. A goal is one common flash image that works anywhere wether under vmware or on any version of iopener HW. 02-04-2002 20:34:04

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) Wild_Pencil Profile | Email Very Cool. I was doing something very similar with VMWare to build an updated Jailbait image. -WP 02-05-2002 14:39:57

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) jbarr Profile Hi! Quick background: -i-Opener (Not sure of the version, but it's between v1 and v3) -Stock CPU -128mb RAM -4GB IBM Travelmate HD attached to outside of case using iMod-3 -Windows 98 installed in the HD -USB Ethernet adapter -Replacement mouse and keyboard I have been successfully booting Windows on my i-Opener for quite some time and have been fairly pleased, but the performance was always marginal and it took FOREVER to boot. Sometimes, it would take two or three boots to get it to actually boot completely. A while back, I tried the original M4-I distribution and was generally pleased. There were some very minor quirks, but overall, it was quick and solid. Well, I installed Squash's latest (Winchip) M4-I rev and I am VERY happy. I flashed the image to my i-Opener, reset the i-Opener's BIOS to boot to drive "D", enabled DHCP on my Linksys router, and rebooted the i-Opener. EVERYTHING WORKS GREAT!!! Things booted quickly, the network settings auto-configured, and everything started up as expected. I was web-browsing witin a minute or two. I will now be able to disconnect the disk drive (it's kinda loud) and have a wonderfully quiet Internet appliance. Oh, two quick questions... 1. How do you have VNC send "Ctrl+Alt+Del" to the host? I have a Win2k server running that I can access via VNC, and the Java and Windows clients hava a facility to send "Ctrl+Alt+Del" to the host (allowing me to log in.) Any clues? 2. Do I have to go to the Midori control panel through Netscape and select shutdown or can I just push the power button? If I can just push the power button, then this truely is an "appliance"!!! Anyway, Squash has successfully evolved a good distribution into a GREAT distribution. I am very happy with this version of M4-I and hope the rest of you have as much success! I now look forward to seeing v2 with Opera and SAMBA added! 02-07-2002 07:28:31

Quick followup re: VNC... (modified 0 times) jbarr Profile According to the "Official" VNC web site, you access the special features through a "Popup Window". "F8" is the magic key. Here's a bit of the documentation quoted... ----------- Popup window The viewer has a popup window containing a set of buttons which perform various actions. It is usually brought up by pressing F8, but this is customisable, as is the entire contents of the popup. Actions which buttons in the popup window can perform include: -switching in and out of full-screen mode -quitting the viewer -generating arbitrary key and mouse events, e.g. sending ctrl-alt-del -transferring the clipboard to or from the VNC server By default, key presses in the popup window get sent to the VNC server and dismiss the popup. So to get an F8 through to the VNC server simply press it twice. See the section on customisation below for how to customise the contents of the popup window. ----------- 02-07-2002 07:32:52

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) bob94025 Profile Actually, I'm not squash. :) bob 02-09-2002 01:27:33

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) dweeb Profile New M4Ivm distribution announcment here in the Midori dicussion area. 02-14-2002 15:16:28

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) jbarr Profile Guys, GREAT job!!! The Midori distributions are quite nice. Some questions: 1. Dweeb: Your distro doesn't contain the Flash plugins like Bob's distro does. Any room left to add this? 2. Dweeb: After several minutes of playing streaming audio through Netscape (connecting to Shoutcast) I get a Netscape "segmentation" error and the stream terminates requiring a restart of Netscape. Anyone else encounter this? 3. Anyone: Anyone care to put together a distro that includes Opera instead of Netscape? I understand that Opera is very stable and smaller then Netscape. Any thoughts? 4. Dweeb: What platform are you building the M4I distro on? I would love to try creating a tailored distro myself, but I can't for the life of me get Redhat to boot on my Compaq Presario computer. It's SO infuriating. The installation runs without incident (which runs Linux, right!?!) but the system hangs on boot. I could get earlier RedHat versions to install and boot (v4.x and v5.x, but I didn't try v6.x). I can get OTHER Linux distros to boot, but not RedHat or Mandrake. AAHHHGGGRRR!!! 02-18-2002 10:15:27

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) dweeb Profile Thanks Jbarr, here are responses to your questions 1. I took out the SCSI drivers because the iopener has no SCSI hardware. Probably not enough room to put them back in the kernel except as loadable modules. Most likely, flash cards won't work unless SCSI support is there. This seems like a strange requirement. 2. XMMS executes independent of Netscape, in fact you can close Netscape, and the streaming XMMS audio will continue. I have noticed that Netscape is much more reliable now and hardly ever dies on my V1 or V5 iopeners. (Netscape used to die frequently on the original M4I distribtion). I have not experienced any segmentation errors like you have with Netsape. 3. I have no plans for incorporating Opera, but anyone is free to grab my build enviroment and tailor your own applications. 4. If you look at the M4Ivm web page, there is a screenshot link and description of my development environment. Its not conventional and uses multiple concurrent vmware sessions. Right now, in an attempt to keep my development environment small I use Peanut linux. I would recommend that you use whatever Linux distro is easy to install and boot on your particular hardware. It should not matter what Linux distro you use to rebuild the M4Ivm image from a directory tree. (Kernel rebuilds however, are very finicky as to the build environment). 02-23-2002 21:34:00

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) Linuxguru Profile | Email You need SCSI suppport for the USB mass storage drivers (including USB CD-ROM) to work under Linux 2.4.x. Linux uses a SCSI emulation abstraction (virtual device) to support access to USB mass storage devices. These show up as /dev/scd* or /dev/sg* or /dev/sd* respectively. 02-24-2002 21:08:12

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) netrobber Profile Hey dweeb, great work. I got a question. How did you get vmware to load up the midori image? Did you get it to use the M4Ivm.img file or are you using someother trick? Thanks -netrobber 02-25-2002 10:07:00

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) bob94025 Profile I've just posted a new image (m4i-2.0pre1). I've replaced Netscape with Opera and added Samba and printing via PDQ and GhostScript. Samba definitely works (at least for me), but I haven't managed to print yet- pdq and gs probably need more configuring. see: http://m4i.homeip.net/ cheers, bob 02-27-2002 15:40:43

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) jbarr Profile Bob, Thanks for the update! I am really interested in trying out Opera. I understand that it is very stable, quick, and has a smaller footprint than Netscape. I'm also very excited about Samba! By the way, I tried the "upgrade" option from the Midori configuration screen, and it worked just great. I upgraded to v1.1.2 (I did see the new version listed, but the "pre" made me nervous.) Anyway, v1.1.2 definatly seems more stable. I'll give the new version a try. Oh, two questions... 1. Does Opera have a Flash plug-in like Netscape does? COntrary to many Linux-heads, I actually like working with Flash. 2. Is there some sort of battery inside the iOpener that maintains some settings? I have been having some intermitent, irritating problems problems: - First, my iOpener doesn't boot cleanly every time. It seems that maybe one out of every five or so boots, it gets through the POST stuff then it just hangs. All other times, it just boots and everything is great. Typically, this occurs whan I haven't used the iOpener for several days (thus my speculation about a battery.) And it's not just booting Midori from Flash--it exhibits the same behaviour when booting Windows from HD. - Also, the time doesn't seem to be accurate. I can update the time using the Midori Configuration interface, but the clock in the lower right corner of the screen never gets updated to what I set it to. I have tried setting the TimeZone and that gets it closer, (closer meaning within 2 hours.) Also, when I shut down and reboot the time reverts back to what it was. I'll try setting the Timeserver setting and see what happens. (BTW, I tried setting the Timeserver setting through the Midori Configuration interface in the Network Configuration screen, and it doesn't let me enter enything into the field. I suppose I could manually edit the file in /config and save it. No big deal. I'll let you know how this works. So, any possible explanations for this general flakiness? Keep up the good work! This distro is really shaping up!!!!! Thanks! 02-28-2002 08:09:37

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) Ragnar1 Profile Hi, I just downloaded and installed the new Midori image, the one with opera. But I am having a problem getting it to load. After starting to load X it crashes with a "Fatal servor error. Unable to load reqired base modules, exiting." Being a linux newbie, I am pretty flumoxed on what to do. I have been reading up on linux, but the more modern books on linux leave a lot to be desired. The best book by far that I have found is from ~1980. It too, does not have much other than program commands. I would like to get this working. For my machine and my girl friend's machine. That green haired lass is a real babe. Even my girl friend thinks so. Uh oh, do I have to start worrying? 02-28-2002 08:31:06

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) jbarr Profile Ragnar1, The first thing I would check is to see if you downloaded the correct version. There is a "winchip" version and a "non-winchip" version. I'm sure that installing the wrong one can produce very negative results. From an email from Bob: "If you have a v1-v3 Iopener, be sure to grab the right image (one specifically for the Winchip C6 CPU), unless you've upgraded your CPU." Beyond that, I wouldn't have a clue. I am going to try out the latest Winchip version this evening and let y'all know how it works... 02-28-2002 12:17:32

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) Ragnar1 Profile I downloaded the version for an amd k6 chip. I tried the image on both my V4b and V5. Same results. I have downloaded it again, to see if the first download may have been corrupted. The first download took longer than expected. I won't get time to try it until later tonight or this weekend. Ol la. 02-28-2002 13:48:41

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) Ragnar1 Profile Yeah! She's up and running! The first download was obviously corrupted. The second image booted up promptly to the Opera 5 (Midori LInux Configuration Utility). Now, let see if I can configure it to what I what. Thanks to Dweeb, Bob, Ingo, and all others who constructed this puppy. I like much better than Jailbait. I'll buy you all a beer if I ever run into you in the "Real World". 02-28-2002 19:13:36

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) jbarr Profile Experience with upgrading to latest v2.x_pre version... Well, I did the "Upgrade" through the Midori Configuration screen and everything worked GREAT! (Cable modems are nice!) Anyway, the system prompted me to reboot, and it rebooted right into the new version, and Opera fired right up. Wow! Opera is VERY sweet!!! It's fast enough that the iOpener's 200MHz speed shines. Pages load quickly and response is nice and quick. I use web-based email (netidentity.com) so the absence of an email client is a non-issue. One tip: I made some changes to Opera's preferences (I love to tweak!) and then did a "Store Configuration" from the Midori Configuration screen. When I powered down and rebooted, I got a message that Opera had terminated and asked me if I wanted to resume from where I left off. It exhibited this symptom every time I rebooted. I found this quite annoying, and since this really is only the second time I ever used Opera, my knowledge about it is quite limited. So, I did a bit of poking and applied a bit of logic, and I believe I came up with an answer. It looks like during Opera's normal operation, something (I don't know what) must end up in one of the config directories (maynbe a lock file or some such.) So, after I made any changes in Opera's preferences, I just exited Opera and issued a "freeze" command in the terminal window. The net result is that the configuration directories are saved back to Flash without any Opera config files open. Rebooting now yields a clean restart of Midori Linux as well as Opera every time. This was repeatable. Anyway, all that said, this is very cool. Finally, an "appliance" that boots quickly, is fast, and looks cool. With the timeserver set to time.nist.gov and DHCP running (my Linksys router is the DHCP server), this is truely plug-in-and go! "It just simply works!" (Maybe I should burn that phrase on the ROM graphic.) I actually spent more time using my iOpener last night then my new 1.6GHz Pentium 4 desktop beast! Go figure... Next step: Learn about Samba and get it working! 03-01-2002 14:23:58

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) bob94025 Profile jbarr: 1. Opera 5.05 (the version in 2.0pre1) can use Netscape plugins. I installed flash 5, and it seems to mostly work (although I think it has some issues). 2. Not sure how to help. Like most mainboards, there is a battery to maintain the real-time clock and some non-volatile ram info. If this barryet is dead or dieing, odd things can happen w/ the bios, so you may try replacing that battery (it's a button cell near the center of the mainboard). Ragnar: Glad that you got it working. Even when grabbing images through my internal LAN, 1 out of 10 are corrupt. That's why I always check the md5 sum before flashing. :) Jbarr: I noticed that same issue, and use the same work-around that you do. Opera remembers where is was and if it was cleanly exited in one of it's config files. Since I save all the config files (excpet the caches), it remembers it's state when you flash. So, when you reboot, it thinks that it wasn't shut down. I agree that this should be fixed, but I'm not sure how. I guess the best thing to do might be to not save the config file that remembers this stuff (I think it's autopera.win). Unfortunately, development on this project has come to an abrupt halt. My Iopener no longer boots. :( I tried to activate the second USB port (ala http://www.lvcm.com/lna/#usb) and must have damaged something in the process. When I power-up, the power light comes on, but the display remains black (no backlight). The cpu is working (gets warm as usual), and all the voltages in that vicinity test out OK. I don't think it's just a dead display- the thing doesn't seem to be booting. I can tell by the sound the cpu makes and the fact that it never appears on my LAN. I'm not sure where to start trouble shooting. I suspected the backlight, as I had to disconnect it to solder the USB wires onto the MB. However, I would expect the BIOS to boot the kernel if it were just the backlight. Although there there was no puff of smoke, I fear that something got shorted out, perhaps by a stray piece of solder. The 2nd USB port doesn't seem to be the problem- it booted fine after I installed all the components. The bios even detected the 2nd USB bus. However, I had to detach the mainboard from the LCD to finish the installation and solder the 4 USB wires in place. After that step, I had the blank screen. Any thoughts on how to proceed with trouble shooting? cheers, bob 03-04-2002 00:13:06

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) Kudzu Profile I can tell by the sound the cpu makes High pitched whine? 03-04-2002 00:45:44

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) jbarr Profile Bob, > <Opera info snipped> Opera works great. THe Flash plug-in works just fine for me. > 2. Not sure how to help. Like most mainboards, there is a battery to > maintain the real-time clock and some non-volatile ram info. If this > barryet is dead or dieing, odd things can happen w/ the bios, so you > may try replacing that battery (it's a button cell near the center of > the mainboard). EXCELLENT! Most likely, that's the problem. I will open things up and replace the battery. > Ragnar: Glad that you got it working. Even when grabbing images > through my internal LAN, 1 out of 10 are corrupt. That's why I > always check the md5 sum before flashing. :) Yup! and the "Upgrade" screen in the Midori COnfiguration screen seems to do some sort of checking because the first attamp failed, The second attempt worked like a charm. > Jbarr: I noticed that same issue, and use the same work-around that > you do. Opera remembers where is was and if it was cleanly exited in > one of it's config files. Since I save all the config files (excpet > the caches), it remembers it's state when you flash. So, when you > reboot, it thinks that it wasn't shut down. I agree that this should > be fixed, but I'm not sure how. I guess the best thing to do might be > to not save the config file that remembers this stuff (I think it's > autopera.win). Obviously, a fix would be nice, but since we have a very nice work-around (just close Opera and issue a "freeze" command from a terminal screen) no point in wasting development time on something that is so easilly documented and worked around. 03-04-2002 07:40:34

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) bob94025 Profile Kudzu: > High pitched whine? yes, before I broke it, my CPU would make distinctive high-pitched sounds once the kernel began to boot. The sequence was typically: 1. a few seconds of silence while the bios comes up 2. a high-pitched sound while the kernel boots and the init scripts run 3. mostly silent while running (until I do something CPU-intensive) Now it just remains silent, as if the BIOS refuses to boot the kernel. Perhaps it detects that the screen is dead and refuses to continue? One way to test this theory is to build the VGA adapter and hook up a monitor. Maybe I'll try that. bob 03-04-2002 09:52:05

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) bob94025 Profile FIXED IT! I just discovered a new cause for the dreaded BSOD (Black Screen Of Death). When I reattached the mainboard to the LCD module, I didn't take care to put the LCD wire bundle back in it's place. It wound up under the CPU socket, which has electrically hot pin tips sticking out of the board. These tips were shorting out on the wire mesh shielding that covers the LCD wire bundle. The problem was obvious when I looked at it, but it took several hours of very frustrating troubleshooting to 'see' it. Anyway, all is fixed now, and the second USB port is _almost_ working. I left out one capacitor that I didn't have and hoped that it would work, but the usb device gets recognized but fails to accept it's assigned address. I suspect that it's a problem with noisy signals. Hope to have it fixed tonight. Then, I can put my 802.11b board inside the IO case and have a free USB port for my CF card reader. Development on m4i will continue once I finish the hardware hacking. BTW, did anyone get printing to work? I'm not sure it's worth the effort. Unless everyone objects, I may scrap the whole printing thing. (I can print via my linux box by printing to file and copying the file over. I'll probably write a little shell script to automate this.) If I remove gs and pdq (the printing tools), we'll free up 2-3 megs of space for other stuff. Some possibilities include a very light-weight email client for sending quick notes, instant messaging, and/or a stripped-down version of realplayer (we'd have to remove some of the codecs and plugins to make it fit, though). bob 03-05-2002 11:01:59

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) jbarr Profile Quick update. I opened the iOpener and replaced the battery. It costs under $3.00 at Walgreens. Now, the iOpener boots every time without failing. Looks like that did the trick! Bob: Great job on "fixing" your iOpener! 03-05-2002 23:22:23

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) zonyl Profile DPMS.... I upgraded my IOs with the 2.0pre version of M4i but now my Screen does not shut off due to inactivity. (Used to shut off when running RH on a hard drive on that machine). Is there something that is missing on the running config of X or something that I need to change in BIOS again? I tried poking around a bit, but I am not seeing anything obvious in the XF86Config file. Also, it would be nice to include rdesktop with the distribution. I added it to mine, but I thought it would be usefull for the mainstream distro. I have local X running on VT2, XDM running on VT3, and Rdesktop running full screen on Vt4. That way I can run local apps, use it as an x terminal, or use it as a windows RDP terminal. 03-10-2002 18:00:59

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) bob94025 Profile 1. I'm not sure how to configure X to shut off the backlight when inactive (I've only ever set it up via a GUI interface such as KDE's config utils). But, if anyone figures it out, let me know and I'll add it to the image. 2. I'd be glad to throw rdesktop in if it fits. How big is it? Can you send me a binary that works on m4i? bob 03-11-2002 00:35:54

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) zonyl Profile Typically it is set in the XF86Config file and can be toggled while running with "xset dpms force off". It is configured in the XF86Config file, but does not appear to work at all.. xset doesnt do anything either which leads me into thinking this is a driver problem or something not quite right with the IO BIOS settings. I was hoping someone out there had the "right" configuration and could share it. Backlight goes off in the console, just not in X. 03-11-2002 12:35:55

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) zonyl Profile According to the m4i page, 2.4.6 Midori kernel is being used for the distro only because of cramfs not working correctly in the mainstream kernel. Has anyone tried a newer kernel, 2.4.18, by chance with the new VM or the 2.5.x prempt kernel? I would try it out, but both my IO's are diskless and would hate to have to open them up if the image dies. Looking back in the archives, I see that the setting to get the IO to shutoff backlight in X, you need to set the Video Off mode to Doze. I thought that was what I had already, but Ill look at it tonight and report what I find. 03-11-2002 15:49:20

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) Mickey223 Profile Help with USB Linksys card, I have the Pegasus USB100tx linksys card. I flashed the doc with the latest distro, but cannot connect to the lan I switch to ctrl-alt-f4 and see the error pegasus.c: eth0: link not established (0x7809) - check the cable. Well I pull the cable and reinsert and get this usb-uhci.c: interrupt status ..... usb.c: USB disconect on device 2 then new device cibbect ib bus1/1. assigned device number 4 But when I try to connect to the net I ger an operation failed Any suggestions? 05-15-2002 19:17:45

RE:New Midori Dist in the works (modified 0 times) wvirgo Profile | Email Bob Is there any PPP dialer built into the distrib yet? If so how is it set up? Wvirgo 12-22-2002 00:15:47

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