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Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) mbaha Profile OK time to start a new thread, I am getting tired of waiting then scrolling all the way down of the last thread. I went out the other day and gave diving a try. It was garbage day at some of stores so nothing there. It looked like someone had got all the other ones. So I came home with nothing!! I might give it a try today. MBAHA hack your own you will love it more 06-27-2002 08:54:07

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Hmmm, EXTRA CASH? http://www.idparts.com/cash.html Turn those broken LCD panels they throw away into cash for I-Appliance mod parts! $50 bucks for a BROKEN 14" panel! Wish I had known about this a few months ago! I would of been a few grand richer! ***CAUTION*** The lcd liquid is VERY TOXIC! Wear apropriate gloves and eye protection when handling broken LCD panels! 07-07-2002 05:29:32

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Looks like they cleaned up again. A rats nest of notebook power adapters, cables and mice tangled up in one big ball. After untangling got, 4 Fellows 60 watt AC notebook power adapters. All missing power tips. Got some tips at the local Rat shack. $1.99 ea. These adapters work fine! Have manual preset voltage adjustment control. 3 Targus notebook power adapters. Missing power tips. Rat shack did not have these tips. They seem to be proprietory. 1 Logitech usb optical mini mouse with usb extention cord. Works fine and looks like new after working all the kinks out of the thin usb cable. Various other mice and usb cables. I figure if I bought all that was in this tangled ball new, it would of cost me a little over $1,000. 07-08-2002 13:28:17

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Latest finds, My competition missed this one! Passed right over it! A barrel type mini video camera. It's brand new. A yukky cream color. When I first saw it it I thought it was just a small mounting plate with a short standoff for a wall mounted camera. I picked it out of a large bundle of cut wire reminants from an alarm install job. I then noticed it has 2 wires with connectors hanging out of it (one for power and one for video) and a lens on the end of what I though was the standoff. The shop had a "Broadband" video security system installed. I believe it allows realtime video surveillance of the premises interior from a remote location if an alarm signal occurs. A Micro ATX Socket 462 (MSI 6340) motherboard. Has 2 large capacitors next to the CPU socket that have their tops split open and bulging. I'll replace them and see if it works. Similar repairs in the past with "panasonic grade" components resolved the problem. Vindu's 98 es ee SEEDEE with Cert of auth. A BUNCH of other neat stuff that would make my competition druel...and probably MUCH more aggressive in their search in the future! I won't give details because the items are somewhat store specific. Gosh I LOVE this hobby! 8 more years to retirement! And more playtime! 07-09-2002 15:58:04

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Dominik, My yahoo email has been hosed for several days now. I can receive but cannot send anything! This limited notebook troubleshooting info MAY benefit another member in the future... I DO NOT want to start another different thread for this...Please keep any response HERE IF/AS required. I noticed that the lcd has been removed? Picture you sent is not very clear along with MY poor eyesight. CAUTION! DO THE FOLLOWING AT YOUR OWN RISK! I'm just offering this info because you asked for help. If you don't feel comfortable doing any of the the following Please don't do it! Seek out the services professional fulltime service tech. I'm not responsible if you hurt yourself or any other type of damage(s) occur. Use common sense! You are the best judge of your own abilities. Please only preform the following only if you have reasonably good working experience working with (servicing) small electronics assemblies. The inverter assembly common to the LCD display outputs high voltage! Try plugging in an external monitor to the VGA output on the back of the notebook IF there is one, Does the problem still exist on the external monitor video? If not, With notebook powered off and battery removed, Disassemble if/as required to examine the MAIN LCD interface cable. Very good lighting is required along with a magnifier or good reading glasses. Check the LCD connectors for defects and or any metalic or other debri in socket or on plug. Clean if/as required. Try reseating the lcd interface cable at both ends between the LCD and mainboard. Check the interface ribbon cable itself for defects, pulled loose wire(s), bent pins? or any tears if thin mylar type material? Check the mainboard for small metal debri bits. Blow out if/as required. Check the mainboard for any prior liquid spillage that occured on the keyboard then found it's way to the mainboard underneath. From my experiences with recycled notebooks, that's a very common problem! Pop or coffee (Latte) typical is the culprit. If this happened and powered up while still wet your mainboard may be toast. These liquids are usually VERY corrosive. More damage may occur if you are not reasonably experienced. 07-10-2002 19:37:16

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) oniq Profile | Email Thank you for your response! I'll look into it possibly today, I got myself cotton gloves for the LCD display and a magnifying glass. I'll post a reply probably within a week to see how it went. Thanks again. 07-11-2002 15:08:09

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile IMHO, if possible just handle the LCD by the edges if you can. Also be sure you ground yourself with ESD wriststrap before starting. Here's some related tips, http://www.est2000.com.tw/precautions.htm http://www.casio.co.jp/ced/english/support/notice_module_f.html http://www.gus-space.com/lcdwebsite/pages/handling.html 07-11-2002 19:05:17

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Latest finds, (earlier this week) My competition was REALLY sleeping.... A stack of laptops, Several Toshiba 480CDT's 233Mhz, 12.1" TFT. All missing harddrives and CD-Roms. I got one of these working using the Harddrive from a Toshiba 445CDT (P-133) that I found in the same dumpster a few months ago. Really a nice unit! A heck of a lot zipper than the 445CDT p-133. Several IBM Thinkpads 233Mhz, 14.1" TFT. All missing harddrives and CD-Roms. A few other 486 notebooks. MANY desktop CPU's mid towers. They range from 233Mhz to 400Mhz, P-II's and S-370 celeron's. With 2GB to 12.5 GB Hardrives. 24X to 50X CD-Rom drives and a few DVD drives. A black numeric keypad. An Asus 4 channel Pci sound card still in ESD bag. BOOKOO brand new CDR and CDRW Media still wrapped in jewel cases, Imation and memorex. Opened boxes, 1 or 2 missing in each box. Grey Silitek IR keyboard receiver. (I'm still waiting for the keyboard to eventually show up). A lot of other small stuff. 07-13-2002 23:00:16

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) tomithy83 Profile | Email i got caught at one of my dump sites they asked me not to come back damn i have got a lot of speakers and amps form them o well i got a compaq presario the other day it wont start at all when i press power nothin switched psu, buttons still nutton o well pretty ####ty here 07-15-2002 13:53:41

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile It's amazing how anal some store folks get when they discover someone else can "Make use of" what they throw away. I'll never fully understand. Chumpusa is the worst in my area. Even though they regurlarly thoroughly destroy all items beyond usability, I occasionally still may stop by sometimes and "pick off" a few things they missed like Flash rom Bios chips or the Cmos battery off of the motherboards or may get lucky and find a few copies of last months pc world magazine with missing covers. Hey it save a few bucks... I got caught doing that a few weeks ago and the manager told me to stay out of "HIS" dumpster. He saw what I had in a small open box and it was not much that to speak of. He evidently gave orders to whoever does the smashing to do a better job and smash ALL the chips and etc. The next time I checked it out (AT MY OWN RISK) a few weeks later ALL of the stuff was good and smashed. Every single chip, every header,every cable, even the CMOS batteries was smashed. By the way, The dumpster there is in a VERY PUBLIC parking lot area and is shared. There is not much "Mr Anal" himself can really do to me except "huff and puff" and get himself all worked up and maybe call the cops. They MAY respond eventually and by that time I'll be long gone. BTW, The security guard still see's me and allows me to fish through that dumpster while he (The guard) roams around the parking looking for dropped coins... You have probably gathered by now that I too "D" Dive sometimes during business hours. MUCH safer! One thing to look forward too is, A lot of different stores here have VERY high employee turnover rates. Managers and hourly's seem to mysteriously go away after awhile (either fired or quit) and new faces show up to replace it! 07-15-2002 17:32:51

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Latest finds this week, Compaq series 5000 tower. Missing Hardrive,Ram,CPU,CDROM. P-III Mobo and ATX power supply intact. Has COA sticker for WIN ME still on back. 2 restore CD's for Win ME. Looks like the tower bit the ground face first. Front bezel badly cracked. Another brand new power supply for Compaq notebook. 19VDC 3.75A Brand new Keyboard and mouse for e-Machines still in plastic wrap. Logitec USB quick cam. Mini gamepad for notebook. Small powered speakers. Missing subwoofer. Nice speakers. Various USB cables. Another Rat nest wad of very much tangled wires,mice and powercords. 48MB ram module for a Toshiba 435/440/445/480CDT Notebook. Works great in the 480CDT 233mhz notebook I found last week. Makes total 80MB in that machine. (WoW ) very much obsolete but actually runs quite well! 07-17-2002 23:03:59

For the Cause (modified 0 times) KneuB_2 Profile | Email O2U2 By some miracle does your electronics mountain contain an IBM ThinkPad 755? I've noticed that the most common 10.4" TFT screen that gets posted on e-bay comes from that laptop (actually the 755CSE). Unfortunately, the spec sheet for that screen is one of the many that I have never found. In short I'm having a rather diffficult time obtaining a screen with known pinouts inorder to finish the TFT hack. What I was thinking was if you had a mother board from a TP 755 that you would contribut to the cause, I would through it in the oven, strip it and see if I could identify the pinouts that way. With that the screens being posted on e-bay would not be so usless. Granted, the MB probably uses something other than the Cyberblade chip. But from what I've seen, the people on this board seen to have a much higher success rate finding pinouts for chips than for TFT LCD's. Any chance that you have one that you would donate to the cause? 07-19-2002 17:28:07

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile KneuB_2, Nope, I don't have that one. Have not ran across that particular model yet. If by chance I do find that one in the near future I most certainly will be glad to donate the lcd screen to contribute to the hack. 07-20-2002 00:01:41

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Correction, Motherboard. Me is tired.... 07-20-2002 00:02:43

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) Linuxguru Profile | Email I have a stack of TP75x machines, including a few with a damaged or non-functional screen. However, there were many different kinds of TP screens in this family, so I'll try to summarize them here: TP750 - Mono 640x480, 486SL33 TP750Cs - Dual-scan 640x480 8-bit color, 486SL33 TP750C - TFT 640x480 8-bit color, 486SL33 TP750Ce - TFT 640x480 8-bit color, 486DX2/50 (different motherboard) TP755 - Mono 640x480, 486DX2/50 or DX4/75 TP755Cs - Dual-scan 640x480 8-bit color, 486DX2/50 or DX4/75 TP755C - TFT 640x480 8-bit color, 486DX2/50 or 486DX4/75 TP755C (later) - TFT 640x480 DTI 'black matrix' 8-bit color, 486DX4/75 only TP755Ce - TFT 640x480 DTI 'black matrix' 16-bit color, 486DX4/100 or Pentium/75 TP755CSe - Dual-scan 640x480 8-bit color, 486DX4/100 or Pentium/75 TP755CD - TFT 640x480 DTI 'black matrix' 16-bit color, 486DX4/100 or Pentium/75 TP755CDV - TFT 640x480 16-bit color, 486DX4/100 or Pentium/75 TP755Cx - TFT 640x480 or 800x600 DTI 'black matrix' 16-bit color, Pentium/75 Generally, you can swap 8-bit displays freely with other 8-bit displays, and 16-bit displays with other 16-bit displays, with some constraints and exceptions noted below. You can swap a TFT screen from a TP750C into a TP755C, but not vice versa. You can also freely swap DSTN or mono screens with TFT on every machine except the 755Cx. Some machines will need a BIOS upgrade after the swap. The cables, of course, vary from the mono, DSTN and TFT displays, and you'll need the right one. The main difficulties arise with the change of the TFT screen from the original Hitachi or NEC screen, to the newer DTI 'black matrix' screen found on certain TP755C and later. These have a different cable connecting to the motherboard, so it is not possible to simply swap a DTI screen with the earlier ones. If you have the right cable, the DTI screen will work in an earlier 755, but not a 750. The earlier screens will work on the 755C with the right cable, but not the 755CE or CX (needs more investigation). The CX is special in that some models support the DTI 800x600 screen, but these will also work with the DTI 640x480 screen. However, some models only support the DTI 640x480 screen. The CDV is special, in that it was designed to work with overhead projectors. It cannot use a black-matrix screen. I believe I have a password-locked 755Cs which is a good candidate for stripping. E-mail schander@mindspring.com to work out details. No charge, but some exchange of geek goodies would be welcome. I'm in Santa Clara, CA. 07-20-2002 14:26:12

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) KneuB_2 Profile | Email Linuxguru Sounds wonderfull, but I have a few questions, lets move this to the TFT thread. BTW: the e-mail will be posted shortly. 07-21-2002 23:28:20

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Latest finds, Another Toshiba 480CDT. Sticky keyboard....Swapped the keyboard assembly with one from a 445CDT and voila it works! (BTW, The 445CDT was fished out of the same container with others several months ago). The 480CDT is a way much better machine compared to the 445CDT ! http://209.167.114.38/ISG/pastproducts/html/satellitepro/satellitepro_480cdt_main.html The thing I don't understand is the shop tech could of kept these for himself or sold them... made himself at least a grand from all of these (including the earlier IBM P-II Thinkpads). Oh well. Oh well Things here are getting REAL slim pickin's. Office Depot and Office Max have REALLY cleaned up there act here the last 6 months! I very rarely find anything worth while anymore. I use to find Customer returned Western digital hardrives, CDR Drives,Tons of software, VERY NICE Office chairs, ETC, ETC. Now nada.... They must now be making good use of there return to vendor option! 07-28-2002 16:19:34

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) mbaha Profile I went out three or four times and I never found anything at all!! I give up, oh well more for the pros I guess. Mbaha hack your own you will love it more 07-29-2002 14:15:49

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Latest finds, P-III 450 slot CPU and Asus 2-99 Mobo. Supports 133mhz max bus. PNY G4MX420PCI (Geforce 4 PCI) TV out 64 Meg video card. It's Dead. Lifetime warranty though ! Hauppage TV Pci capture card with remote control and software. Supports picture in picture! Also TV Vcr kinda like Tivo. 2 Brand new in box AVD S-370 Cpu fans for P-III/Celeron. Was in Mobo box. No MOBO. 2 Brand new still in plastic Ata100 IDE cables in same box above. 1 256MB stick Samsung P-133 S-Dram. Contacts needed cleaning. Several 13GB and 8.4 GB Western digital harddrives. 24X Notebook CD-ROM from compaq notebook. Tried it on my working Toshiba notebook and the LCD for some reason did not light up... removed the CD Drive and put original CD Drive back in and screen lights up fine. Found drive may have an internal MOBO problem. I suspect spilt liquid damage... Acer P-200 Low profile desktop. Not even listed on Acer website anymore. NO support for it period! That stinks! Gonna part it out... 233MMX S-7 CPU. Lots of other stuff but it eludes whats left of my mind at the moment... 08-04-2002 06:40:42

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Found another one. http://www.goamerica.com/showcase/merlin/ This time in box with software CD and softcase. Evidently it was replaced by a newer Voicestream model. Has "DEMO" written on the box. Plugging it in to notebook PCMCIA slot just to momentarily test it recieves good signal from local cell site. Requires account for data transfer. Should fetch an easy $150. Gosh I love this hobby! 08-05-2002 04:03:18

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) oniq Profile | Email 02U2, I bought a monitor adapter for my VAIO. There is no white line but the screen seems to repeat itself on the monitor. I'm wondering now if it is an issue with the video memory as I've heard before. If you can shed any light on this I'd appreciate it. 08-05-2002 14:48:30

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile oniq, Have you tried changing resolution settings? Does the same still problem exist? Has any liquid been accidentally spilt on the notebook in the past? IE: spilt pop or coffee? Unfortunately my notebook repair experience is rather limited and mostly self learned. I've been salvaging a bunch of the same brand similar model defective notebooks (Typically Toshiba and IBM) from several corporations and swap parts to make a few good ones. Basically doing the same repairs as a certified OEM repair station would do except, they would more than likely order new or refurbished parts, Typically remove the suspect defective part/board and replace it with new or refurbished part/board. Diagnosing and repairing component level problems is pretty much out of my realm of experience unless it's a blown SMD fuse, defective or a loose cable/ribbon connector or obviously toasted component. Sorry I can't be of more help. Anyone else have any ideas? 08-05-2002 22:39:05

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Been slim pickin's till this last week, Latest finds! My first Intel Pentium 4 Cpu and Motherboard! Venturing into new uncharted waters! 1.6GHZ P-4 in a 1.7GHZ retail box. Someone wrote "USED" in blue felt pen on the front of the CPU box. Indeed the Cpu had heatsink compound smeared on it and the base of the heatsink/fan that was also in the box all was stored in the plastic ESD carrier. NO discoloration on the CPU die! The Motherboard is an MSI ATX board. http://www.msicomputer.com/product/detail_spec/850Pro5.htm (I don't have any Rambus ram yet to test this board...) 20 GB Seagate Harddrive from a compaq machine. Works fine after cleaning up the Win ME! 08-15-2002 03:15:26

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Latest finds earlier this week, about a half dozen different notebooks. All have broken LCD screens. Salvaged 4 harddrives from 4.0GB to 6GB and CD-ROM drives. The only one with a DVD, the disk tray is busted. Salvaged a small socketed 600 celeron CPU, heatsink and fan, several other mini cooling fans and 2 Toshiba Li-ion batteries. Also an extera drive caddy for my older Toshiba 480CDT! Buslink external 20GB USB drive with power supply. Does not power up. Ugly silver and yellow color, YUK! I got to void a warranty sticker! Has a 20GB Seagate IDE drive inside. Not many components on the main USB interface PCB so I'll fix it! Mini MP-3 player. Missing USB data transfer cable and software CD. http://www.frontierlabs.com/Products.html Several midtower systems with Win98SE and ME Keycode COA stickers on cases. Gosh I love this hobby! 08-16-2002 19:17:35

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) oniq Profile | Email 02U2, got any Powerbook G3 500s laying around? I need a daughter board pretty bad, came across a free powerbook with a bad daughter board. To stay on topic, where do you go to find out the local laws for dumpster diving? Library, town hall? 08-16-2002 20:25:42

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile oniq, I very rarely come across any mac stuff. Have yet to find a Mac notebook... As far as Laws (A library may be a good start!) I myself have asked my local LEO his opinions when he is not busy.YMMV. My extensive "Social engineering" experience comes into play when confronted... Most LEO'S leave me alone when they see me, YMMV. I had one stop last week and he was curious what I found. I showed him all the kool stuff and he said I sure have one lucurative hobby! He was very friendly and that helps a lot. May be interesting reading, http://www.metroactive.com/papers/sonoma/07.10.97/trash-9728.html True diver! Sorry, I don't go this far! http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0069Le http://www.ecovillage.ca/004/article.php?file=trash-legalities.htm http://www.realchangenews.org/pastarticles/features/articles/fea_dumpsterdive.html http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~resist/dumpster.html http://members.aol.com/TheDumpsterLady/thedumpsterlady.htm http://www.secureshredders.com/ss/rtoshred/article.html I know one thing for sure...I've saved a small fortune by re-using good trashed computer parts! And learned a lot in the process! Some of the recycled parts have been used in a couple of my i-Openers! If you choose on you own to try Dumpster diving, Be EXTREMELY careful! don't get hurt! Use common sense! 08-17-2002 00:04:37

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Slim pickin's lately, Saddist find yet, Had my heart goin' for a few seconds. I've really wanted one of these bad! REAL BAD! http://www.garmin.com/products/colorMap/ Sorry azz retail company had smashed the LCD screen... I took it with me anyway! Took it apart and the mainboard and control board are intact. The LCD board intact. Just the LCD smashed and the U shaped flourescent tube busted. Gosh what a waste! Bet a replacement LCD costs a fortune. Colormap software has not been opened yet...? Future plans Hmmm. 08-26-2002 22:37:01

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Dang, That P-4 1.6 GHZ I found 2 weeks ago, lasted about a minute....Smoked the $69 mainboard I just bought for it. (DDR vs Rambus). Got around to the finishing touches yesterday and fired her up! I went into the bios screen and watched the temp shoot straight up to 244 F then the 3 keyboard lights lit up at the same time and that was that! Did not have time to power down... I haven't had time to open up the case to see the actual damage. 09-02-2002 21:35:35

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile OEM's getting generous again, Last weeks finds, A tray of CPU's in a box. Range from 1.0 GHZ Intel celeron and durons plus a few AMD XP1700+ and XP1800+. Some have BAD taped to them. Have not tested yet. Noticed many have excessive heatsink compound around the core and running over the resistor packs? this MAY be the problem... A stick of 512MB PC2100 ram. The contacts look a little tarnished. 80GB Maxtor harddrive. Several IDE pins bent... OEM Windows XP home (Yuk) CD still wrapped with manual and COA still stuck to plastic. I think the tech goofed on this and accidently tossed it. It was stuck in the bottom of a big box with empty video card boxes inside. I almost missed it... PC CHIPS Mobo with celeron 1 ghz cpu. CDR-Drive. The front tray cover is busted off. A little glue should work! Lots of other stuff. Gee, I've built MANY midrange computers from FREE recycled parts! 09-13-2002 23:51:13

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile So far all the AMD XP 1700/1800+'s CPU's found last week were indeed BAD as marked... The only good CPU tested so far out of the lot is the Intel celeron 1GHZ ! Latest finds, A Microsoft X-BOX, With controller and interface cable. I have not tested it yet. An HP Mini tower computer, Intel celeron 466, 96MB, 10GB, 4x4 CDR drive. Missing power supply. Still has store display stickers on case. It's in real nice shape! Takes one of those smaller power supplies. I have one around here somewhere... 09-25-2002 22:13:12

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) patcat88 Profile The only computer place for 25 miles is a Compusa. One REALLLLLY big problem is that there dumpster is permenntly attached to the building and covered. Try to break into it at night??? Or keep looking for another store? 09-27-2002 18:10:19

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile NO! NEVER NEVER NEVER ENTER A COMPACTER! That IMHO would definately be trespassing and possibly even burglary! More than likely one would spend a few nights in JAIL. Even though it's a trash container. Compusa typically SMASH or destroy most items anyway. It's a real obsession with them. I think it's so they don't have store employees coming back after hours and getting the stuff. 09-27-2002 22:43:44

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) info Profile Use common sense, Not sure? Ask a cop or someone with legal experience like a lawyer. http://members.aol.com/TheDumpsterLady/thedumpsterlady.htm 09-28-2002 05:23:14

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) Warp7 Profile Not only would it be very illegal to go inside one of those attached store containers but I think real stupid, a good way to disappear forever; Crushed to death if you got stuck in it or passed out. Imagine being buried in a landfill. In my book not worth it. 09-28-2002 15:11:45

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Latest finds, MS Windows XP Pro (retail full version) Opened. Product activation went very successful (I told no lies) after very smooth installation *NO DRIVERS REQUIRED* XP recognized and supported everything on my recycled IBM thinkpad P-II 300. What a difference in performance! A definate improvement! MS word 2000 unopened (Still unopened). Creative Nomad jukebox MP3 player. 6GB HDD ver. Fails to fully intialize. Shuts off after approx 15 seconds. Creative 5 piece speaker set (w/subwoofer) black dolby surround sound system. Have not tested yet. Sony 3 piece speaker Creative 8x4x32 CDRW drive. 10/100 PCI card. 6.4 GB Western digital HDD. 2.5" to 3.5" IDE drive adapter connector. 100 blank white CD label sheets (2 labels per sheet) still in plastic. Lots of other kool stuff but my memory fails me at the moment... 10-06-2002 04:21:22

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Geez...wish I had automatic spellcheck here... 10-06-2002 04:26:25

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) Tron Profile On the Creative Nomad jukebox MP3 player. 6GB HDD ver. Fails to fully intialize. Shuts off after approx 15 seconds. I have one of those and that is what happens alot of times if there is a bad sector on the hd so you may try using another laptop hd if you have one laying around. 10-06-2002 11:41:59

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) zmoz Profile Jesus 02U2...Do you keep all that stuff or sell it? You probably wouldn't even need a job if you sold it all...how do you find so much more than everyone else? 10-06-2002 12:56:38

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile zmoz, It is a great learning experience (and inexspensive) if one wants to learn electronics repair. I sell a little of it. I trade some, I may give some away and I keep some of it! No it's NOT even enough for me to retire early. It does pretty much satisfy my "HORRIBLE ADDICTION" to ELECTRONIK CRACK (gadjets) though. Like I've said in the past, I've been doing this for a long,long time. I pretty much got it down to the hour when they dump this type of stuff at some places. I have many competitors! Competition is rough here, Sometimes I'm late and the competition gets the good stuff! (I suspect a few are ex-store employees) SOME of this stuff is "product protection warranty" replaced stuff. You know the additional warranty they push store employees to sell at the time of sale of product... I LOVE IT! The store just tosses the "defective" merchandise. Sometimes it has a little note stuck to it describing what the problem is. Way off topic, Believe it or not (This might even sound a little crazier) my #1 priority now when I go out though is not fishing stuff out of the dumpster, It's caring for the many Stray and feral Cats that we've developed trusting relationships with over the years in the process of recycling this stuff. I've spent many thousands of dollars and many, many hundreds hours with these guy's. Most have been humanely trapped and taken to a spay and neuture clinic then re-released. The older ones the back to where the were. The younger ones we try to find homes for. Found homes for about 22 now . Some live with me and have been excellent companions! It's taken a LOT of time and patience but well worth it! The rewards and satisfaction of knowing we help them FAR OUTWEIGH whatever is found in a silly dumpster. 10-06-2002 16:15:54

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Did you know the Archos Studio 20 http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/electronics/5784.shtml contains a Hitachi Model DK23CA-20 9MM Notebook harddrive... http://www.hitachistorage.com/html/dk23ca-20.html Found one of these Studio 20's with the entire outer case plastic removed, Lcd display missing. I pulled out the harddrive from the chassis, Installed it on my Thinkpad 390 and voila Spun up and was recognized! Formatted fine no bad sectors! Latest other finds, 3 external Firewire HDD cases. All have had a hammer applied right in the center of the case lid. The dummies missed the power supply boards and firewire ide interface boards, Duh... 1 firewire cable still in plastic. A silver Lan-Li type tower case. Looked like it jumped off a shelf, Had a big impact dent on the corner. I removed the 4 brand new case fans and front dual USB interface socket/cable assembly. Has 18" pigtail. Several Geforce 2 Video cards, Tossed most of them back. The gpu cooling fans were froze solid and the PCB on the non-component side had a nice golden brown spot from the overheated gpu. 10-09-2002 22:23:34

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) zmoz Profile Well...I think I am just going to have to take up this hobby . My uncle used to work at egghead.com before they went under. I think one of the things he was in charge of was throwing away the good stuff. Christmas was allways great ! He also sold me alot of crap for way way cheap. He moved into a new house not long ago...and he bought it without alot of the finish work done. He payed for most of it to get done by giving the construction workers new laptops... 10-09-2002 22:30:01

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile No zmoz, No Zmoz, I have not found one of those yet... I did find a PNY Geforce 3 Ti 200 64MB DDR AGP Video card though, Works fine after cleaning the AGP contacts with denatured alcohol and paper towel. (Grounding myself) http://tomshardware.bizrate.com/marketplace/product_info/details__cat_id--405,prod_id--6347590.html I found out the hard way it requires a minimum of a 600MHZ cpu (1GHZ recommended) and 300watt PS. Interesting note, Did you know flourescent tubes make a rather kool light show when it's dark and cold outside and one move's them around next to wadded up plastic pallet wrap.... 10-14-2002 22:12:05

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Hmmm, Must of had a mental hiccup... It's late, good nite! 10-14-2002 22:14:22

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Latest finds the last few weeks, 3 64MB Compaq iPaq's. 2 would not power up but otherwise perfect condition and the other had a badly shatterd screen. It may have been run over by a tire. The back had damage too. I sold all 3 as a package deal at work for $225. The dude that bought them was very happy and so was I. Another X-Box. Note on it says "bad harddrive". Another Acros 20GB MP-3 player. This came with everthing this time. The player would not stay on. I took it apart and removed the 20GB Hitachi harddrive. Installed it in my Thinkpad and it Fdisked and formatted fine. The rest of the player went to one of the junk box archives. A Toshiba 18 GB notebook drive. Fdisked and formatted fine! Works great. 2 60 GB Harddrives one Western digital 3.5" 5400 rpm harddrive Fdisked and formatted fine, The other a Maxtor makes a clicking sound. Maxtor diagnostic software no help. This one is toast...Crashed drive. An AMD K6-533 Cpu, Have not tested yet. An AMD Athlon Cpu, Can't find my glasses to see what MHZ it is. A microsoft Usb Forced feedback joystick and steering wheel. Have not tested yet. 2 sticks of Viking 64MB Rambus ram was still in the sealed "Viking" shipping box. Found these in a large UPS second day shipping envelope. Zmos, Check your HP notebook! I have 15" LCD panel (actually the entire complete lid assembly) for the Newer HP notebooks. This has been removed because they have squarish keyboard pattern rubmarks on the LCD anti-glare coating from coming in contact with the keypads while the lid is closed! VERY faint BUT noticable! That would really suck! 11-05-2002 23:04:50

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Latest finds since last time, Palm M515 with Docking cradle and wall wart. http://www.palm.com/products/palmm515/ Fails to boot completely. Gives null error *Fatal* Looks like dude at work gets another toy... and I get another $100 So far sold dude 3 64MB advertised defective i-Paq's for $225 total. One appeared to have been run over by a tire, was in pretty sad shape... The others were in great physical cosmetic shape. They would not power up though. I really appreciate this guy and others, they provide $$$cash$$$ for my toy addiction. 40GB 7200 rpm Maxtor Harddrive, They were generous and provided the maxdiag floppy. Successfully restored and tested to factory certified spec's! Sure to a long time though! Belkin external USB 2.0 Harddrive case. Missing Usb cable. Xtasy Gforce 2MX AGP video card. HP Photosmart 1315 printer. In store note taped to it said it would not power up... I got it home, took it in the garage and used MY power cord and voila! Geez... Has a VERY NICE 2.5" color LCD screen to preview photo's. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,9434,00.asp Another Cannon portable printer for notebook. Have not tested yet. Note on it say's won't print. Gosh I LOVE this hobby! 11-17-2002 08:06:57

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Oh, A note to Zmoz, The Toshiba notebook I BOUGHT works GREAT! No problems at all! I'll remain a dedicated Toshiba notebook customer. http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/pc/pc_prodDetail.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0752546523.1037428482@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccfadcgkhfjimecgfkceghdgngdglk.0&comm=ST&plin=Portables&pfam=Satellite&poid=238477&Adoid=184501 11-17-2002 08:13:56

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) zmoz Profile Be carefull talking like that...it's listening... Wouldn't happen to want to sell one of your hard drives to me for cheap would ya? 11-17-2002 12:48:48

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) vtheo Profile | Email wow! That is a lot of good stuff, when i heard about the archos mp3 player(something i have been thinking about for a while) my jaw dropped. I look at these laptops, and think about my 486 laptop w/ 8 mgs of ram :(. Perhaps someone would help this poor high school student w/o job to get involed into hacking :). Vannila The Ostrich 11-21-2002 19:20:02

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) orakle Profile Yeah, not to be a mooch or anything, but i'm a high school student in Montreal, Canada who would really appreciate a laptop (it doesn't have to be blazingly fast, just decent for win98 and some productivity apps) if anyone could muster one for a good cause, or any other decent hardware people would be willing to give away. I tried a little d-diving myself.. just looked around a few stores and stuff but I didn't really find anything. Maybe i'm looking in the wrong places. I'm willing to pay shipping fees by usps.. thats no problem. thanks. if you can help please e-mail me: orakle02 *AT* hotmail *DOT* com thanks!! 11-25-2002 20:57:30

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) squash Profile | Email I hit a few dumpsters today while I was out and about, and found a good amount of gear. I picked up a Mitac 5114vu motherboard, its super socket 7, supports k6 up to 550mhz. 4 pci, 2 dimm, on board video and sound. Nice board, I actually already have one that I use daily. Only thing wrong with it is ohne of the retaining clips on one of the DIMM slots is gone. Had a Compaq BIOS on it, so I flashed it with the Award my other board uses, and it woks good. Got a Toshiba DVD-Rom. 2x dvd, 24x cd, IDE interface. Seems to work fine, doesn't have a face plate. Got a nice looking leather laptop bag, but the zipper is hosed. Pulled out a Radius 0461 20" monitor! The plastic grill on he top is a bit broken, but not too bad. Unit works! but colors don't look quite right. Things look a bit purple. Supposedly, it will do 1600x1200@75hz, which would be awesome for unreal tournament! Found a DPT SCSI card. its PCI, looks like narrow scsi, with Symbios 53cf96 chipset. Its a big boy too, full length PCI card. Model PM2024. Might be good to power a scanner, or.... A seagate ST12400N narrow scsi hard drive! Just over 2 gigs, haven't tested yet. No-name PCI modem, has 2 Lucent chips on it. its probobly good, but I probobly won't test it until I have a use for it (when?) Picked out a Compaq Deskpro 6000, about half of it is there, no CPU/memory and missing the expansion slot riser card. Pulled out a 4x cdrom and a 3.5 floppy drive (tested the floppy). Nice Compaq USB keyboard. Briefly tested, seems to work. Hit a couple office stores, and got a cool lamp (works), a 2002 organizer/planner with rips on the cover and some red paint, and an inexpensive looking briefcase, alsow ith some rips and red paint. A few bumper stickers will make that a nice travel companion. Last but not least, a random old-ass laptop, no model number handy, looks around 486/pentium75 era. Will loot for parts if anything in it is useful. Looks like I got almost a complete PC in parts, just add case, memory, cpu. Maybe this will be the box I keep saying I'm going to build on a piece of lumber instead of putting in a case! Anyone else diving these days? 11-29-2002 21:50:59

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) GWIZAH Profile | Email hey all, back from the dead to post in this thread :) Ive been coming across some notables lately, specifically a pair of Rackmount chassis that had ATX Ps's inside, no face plates. A cisco 2500 series that I just sold for $175 , thats 175% profit :) and an APC backup 1600 which is now backing up my PC. I love this hobby, O2U2 you rule for turning me onto this! 12-01-2002 19:19:28

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) maidtina Profile | Email OK, dont dive often but a while ago a bagged a rackmounting UPS minus its batts (skip outside student flat), gutted it to make a new case for my PC with, but after discovering this thread, i might do it more often. Not sure where the best places to go in my area are yet but i could really use some computer hardware as i'm using things which BELONG in a skip :)could definatly use some odds and sods for my iopener such as a hard drive without bad sectors (ebay rip off) and CD drive, planning to stick some nice bloo LEDs inside, maybee a window make it look pretty. where you suggest the best places are to find these things? mt 01-05-2003 05:12:56

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) squash Profile | Email Hey All, Been a while since I posted, I've been diving once a week since my last post with my brother. We've found all manner of goodies! Probobly the most interesting find is a telecom company that routinely throws out overstock/overorder. We've pulled thousands of pounds of spooled telco wire, fiber optics cable, and telco hardware (I'm sitting on a pile of DSX cross connects right now). The neat part is it is all new in box. The not so neat part is the parts are hard to sell! We've gotten a couple new computer desks, in the boxes. Last weekend, I got a set of plastic shelving for my computer room, a radio shack shortwave/am/fm reciever, and tons of misc stuff. Been kind of dry on computer hardware though. I'm regularly getting power supplies and I've been passing up printers. We have a good run set up that we do on the same day each week, plus I check a couple places on my way to work every day. If anyone is still reading this thread, I can post more details like we used to. 01-14-2003 11:49:56

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Kool! Just remember to PLEASE be carefull! Do this at your own risk! The chances of very serious injury are very great if one is careless! One ooops jabb from a carelessly disposed medical sharps(HIV), Broken glass, Nails from broken pallets, Razor blades...Chemicals, Dust....Rats, the list is hugh The potential for injury is GREAT! Don't blame anyone on this BBS if someone gets hurt! Again I STRESS PLEASE BE CAREFULL! Read the other "Diving threads too for other disclaimers! OK That's over, I've been very active the last few months... Years end usually brings a lot of cool stuff, Tax writeoff time! Lots of harddrives from 2GB to 60GB Sticks of ram Celeron and P-II & III processors, MAC UFO, Almost tossed it back because some tech took a screwdriver to the RJ-45 and other sockets. Opening it up it contained a Oronco "Silver" Wireless 802.11 pcmcia card inserted into the mainboard. Upgraded the cards firmware to the lastest rev. was a success! Has small socket for external antenna cable!~ 2 more X boxes, They have bad harddrives. Many Videocards, Most are good. Range from 32 to 64mb pci and agp. All customer returns, Midtowercase with 250 watt power supply and an Asus A7V-133 rev 1.04 Mobo WORKS! Put in the 1Ghz Athlon and 256MB PC133 I found earlier and boots fine! Will do further testing later... HP200i DVD Burner DOA.... Many i-Paq's with cracked screens. About a dozen laptops all have cracked or missing screens. A ton of other stuff~ -WXPVOL_EN;^} 01-14-2003 18:03:31

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile I've known this for years, http://news.com.com/2100-1040-980824.html?tag=fd_top I just picked up 2 tossed drives one Quantum 40GB and Maxtor 80GB. I wiped both with zero's. Quantum Zero fill and maxtor maxdiag utility work goo for this. I always wipe old drives to rid them of any minor defects on the disk surface (Actually reallocate) and get rid of any boot sector virses that may be lurking If you have very sensitive info on your old drive and going to toss it, A good hammer works fastest! The best thing to do IMHO is dissassemble the drive and individually destroy the platters. Sandpaper each platter then bend them up or cut into bits with shears! I have NEVER used any personal info found on old drives. 01-16-2003 04:38:57

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) squash Profile | Email Yo, I've been diving on and off for the last 15 years, so I'm pretty good about the dangerous bit. I'm going through dive sticks in a hurry though! We use broomsticks mostly, my current one is made of pvc pipe. All finds, of course. I've only gotten a couple of good drives from dumsters. I usually low-level them to test if they're good, which has the side effect of wiping the data. I did have one that I missed the bios prompt and it booted into dos, it looked like one of mine! It had a win98cd directory with (suprise) the contents of Win98se cd in it. I was amused, but low levelled it right after. I've bought computers at auction before, that came complete with OS, applications, and data. People really aren't careful with that stuff. I suppose they're lucky we're more interested in gigabytes of storage than personal or customer data. I'm building up a collection of wall-warts now, I seem to get every output except the one I'm looking for! Maybe next week. Most electronics style shops out here use compactors. One of the big office supply stores uses a compactor, but also has a regular dumpster. It seems they put stuff too big to fit in the compactor in the dumpster. Thats where we get things like desks. Also, a $200 leather office chair, in the box, unassembled, missing the screws to put it together. I've got one place that does high volume second-hand computers. They buy lots from companies and move tons of inventory. Lately, they've been tossing a large amount of one type of item. Unfortunately, it hasn't been a good item to grab. One day they had a couple hundred monitor bases. One day it was empty computer cases (no power supplies). Another, it was dot matrix printers (I would have grabbed one, but it had snowed...) I'm wondering if I"ll go by there one week and hit the jackpot. Why do people throw out unused cd recordable media? I find half a dozen or so a week. I can't figure out why. On dive day, I spend 99% of the time driving, and very little time actually at/in dumpsters. What type of places are you hitting? It seems like you are finding a better grade of computer parts. I still haven't found any loose CPUs, memory, or xboxes (grin). Squash 01-16-2003 13:58:15

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Another OEM bites the dust... Cutting Edge computers in Bellevue. A legal servant has posted a rent is due notice on the front door. Business is closed and website no longer responding...Boyo gonna have to give up the Beamer and lexus... They already cleaned out there service dept ! 01-18-2003 22:57:12

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Another OEM biting the dust... Just a few buildings away from Cutting edge. Office Max also closing. Everything tossed gets smashed or cutup. A lot of frustrated employees... Did manage to extract a couple of kool 2.4GHZ antennas from some panasonic demo phones. Look like mini J pole style complete with small coaxial pigtail. Main electronics PCB is bare. Other finds from another area include, Generic 2.4GHZ 802.11b access point with antenna 80GB Maxtor Harddrive. Came with software Floppy and CD. 2 24x firewire external CD Burners. Usb Bluetooth adapter. Lots of USB 2.0 cables and sockets. Clip on LCD video display for Gamecube, Has white line running across screen when powered up. Socket 370 all in one micro motherboard--Mfg by Dawoo? Various sticks of ram. 32 thru 256 MB. Lots of other way cool stuff! 01-24-2003 23:44:57

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile I got word to visit another OEM going belly up in Bellevue the other night.... They had placed about 2 dozen large boxes full of stuff to be tossed in the back parking area. When I got there there was a young couple sifting thru several open large boxes next to the garbage, I joined them and the Woman had found about a dozen Nokia and Motorola cell phones in original boxes...Dang I was a few minutes to late. The boxes I picked had mixed junk with about 20+ sticks of used S-Dram and a handfull of used CPU's. Varied from p-166 to K6-2 500 and 550's plus a few Celeron's. The SDram varies 32MB to 256MB PC133. There were a few Mid tower chassis and monitors but much to big for me. Another dude carted them off... Scored on a VINXPEE Korp CeeDee with the stuff! Also unused Partition magic 6 CD with book, Nero and Corel Word perfect 8 CD's. By the time I left there where other folks that showed up and it was getting a little frantic. I decided to leave while the getting was good. BTW, It was pouring down rain and I got soaked during the whole ordeal but it was FUN! I stopped there tonight and everything else that was left was ALL GONE! Swept up nice and neat! 02-01-2003 23:41:31

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Now that I've been driving around the Bellevue area a bit, Active Electronics has joined the ranks of store closures, Large white construction dumpster parked out front. Double doors at the end for easy access. Finds include, Weller solder station digital controller box brand new still in plastic. Missing soldering iron and holder. Several new antistatic work mats. Lots of Canned freeze spray and contact cleaner. A box of approx 1 dozen "O" scope multiplier signal probes and leads still in plastic. Lots of odds and ends. I imagine that it's pretty well picked thru by now. The weekend regulars more than likely discovered it, It's not hard to miss. Office max up the road has cleaned out there store finally. Lots of stuff tossed. They had a very large and VERY heavy (Approx 300-400 lbs) new looking black safe tossed on the top of everything. I passed on it TO BIG and HEAVY! I came back by the next day and it was gone! That must of took a LOT of work getting that sucker outta there!! Further south... 20GB Toshiba notebook drive MK2017GAP. 9.5mm thin. Pulled from a Compaq notebook. Works like a charm. Very fast. 6.4GB Hitachi notebook drive DK239A-65. Another 9mm drive. Also works fine but little slow. Both were in used esd bags in little cardboard boxes. Compaq AC to DC notebook power adapter. 19VDC output. A "Linearity" notebook? power adapter 12vdc @4A Another 2.4ghz access point. Unknown if working. Another rats nest of cables, Usb, firewire, networking, power adapter. A bunch of techie tools to include driver bits. Looks like somebody got canned. Lots of other kool stuff! Looks like several of us at work may get "temporarily?" pink slipped from may through december...Glad I saved a big bankroll! I'm ANXIOUSLY awaiting it! Time to play with all my toys!, (ERR,I mean look for work while collecting unemployment) Retirement gets closer! 02-16-2003 15:15:56

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) Kudzu Profile 02U2, stay the heck away from the rest of the parts stores I visit. :p Cutting Edge and Active? Is Vetco next? 02-17-2003 18:19:38

RE:Dumpster Diving 3 (modified 0 times) 02U2 Profile Actually....Compro up the street just bit it too...Got a ton of stuff from them to include some real nice tower cases in box. They were missing power supplies though. Hearsay sez the white haired gentleman who (runs?) the Vetco store is up to his azz in debt alligators. Hearsay comes from a former employee. I have listened to his frustrations. He kept telling me about getting NSF pay checks. He ended up quitting. I'm keeping a close eye on status of the store! 02-17-2003 23:32:26

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