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New MessageBasic question--help! (modified 0 times) Frank23
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Hi. This is a very basic question--couldn't find an answer to it.

I have an unmodded I-Opener, and I want to use it check email and get on the web.

Is there any way to log in to my ISP and into my e-mail account? Can I change the phone number it dials into, and make it send my username and password?

Thanks for your help.

Frank
08-23-2002 09:34:16

New MessageBasic Answer (modified 0 times) KneuB_2
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Frank23

Yup you can do all that. But how you go about it depends on what version of the i-opener you have. If you have a version #1 the instructions are in the old BBS archives. The archives are not visable unless you are signed in. If you have one of the last of the version #5 then from what I've read herein, what you are trying to do should be an option that you can access after bootup (I do not have a V5 so this is hearsay). For every version in between I believe you will need to flash the BIOS and/or update the sandisk. There was a thread not to long ago that addressed this very subject, but I can't find it at the moment.

08-23-2002 17:35:19

New MessageRE:Basic question--help! (modified 0 times) MeatChuck
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It seems that the standard answer for this type of question is: "Read the threads and use the search feature".

There *is* a great deal of useful info in this BBS, put its presentation is wanting!
I'd like to see more "How-To" type tutorials, that newbies can read in a linear fashion.

That said, it is important to know if your i-op had ever been in "regular use".
I.e., did it ever connect to the netpliance servers. If it did, it would get updated with software. If not, it might not have all the software you might need to do basic ISP and email. And, if it did not, it never will, as those servers are long gone.

Anyway, boot the puppy up, without a phone line attached. Goto the help link, and preferences link. You should see a link for ISP settings.

This BBS is rich on content for hacking the unit to run non-stock operating systems and applications. However, it is weak on content about what you can do with the i-op without fundamental modifications. But, I don't know of any site which focuses on the latter.

08-24-2002 07:29:33

New MessageRE:Basic question--help! (modified 0 times) Jsteinhilper
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I was just thinking the same thing about the information here. I've been searching for some info myself, and it does get kind of hard. When you find it, you still don't know if it's out dated or not.
It would be really nice, if the added a forum area, for "completed hacks". For example, the USB, once the hack is figured out, a single thread "USB Hack (pr something)" containing the step by step instructions. One thread for each of the hacks. Then each fo the threads would contain any updates since this is a ongoing process (such as the Q-16 info).

If somebody could present the finalized information to me, I'd write the threads. Just an idea.

08-24-2002 19:39:02

New MessageRE:Basic question--help! (modified 0 times) *SF*
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> If somebody could present the finalized information to me, I'd write the threads.

OK, I will Play. (as will Others, I Hope)
Since my ISP moved me to @Home, right before it went Down,
They have Not been able to provide webspace, but they say they are Working on it,
Yea, right ( NOT ! )
My Old Pages I am Not Happy with, http://yourpage.blazenet.net/starfish/hacking.htm

You are writing a FAQ ???

Do You have the First Post ???

Just start Here, in this Thread.
After You get it going, You can Move it to a Reference Area.
In the End, WE Want a Web Page so We can include Photos.
as We get Good Web Pages Up, I think We can get Codeman to Host them.

I would suggest using an Outline Processor (WordPerfect is Nice}

Where do You Start ? "Getting an I-Opener" or "Opening It Up" ???

What is Your First Question ?

* StarFish * A.K.A. The Grumpy Old Man

08-24-2002 21:40:42

New MessageRE:Basic question--help! (modified 0 times) Jsteinhilper
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I'll take the grumpy old man up on that, and we'll see who can be the grumpier.

I'm fairly new to hacking this thing, I got started about two years ago, and thought it had bouoght the farm so I stopped. Checking it just before trashing it indicated that it was OK. So I'm back at it.

Orginally, I had thought about getting a moderated forum (read only) for the postings (or just an area to post messages). But if you want a seperate web, we can go that way. I can host it to start with, getting it setup and pictures and stuff (it would have to have pictures I guess, you are right about that).

As far are where to start? Since I'm starting again, I should be some help there.
1) Let's start with obtaining them, since I just had a post about that.
2) Then how about things Not to do unless that does not apply, I remember there was a big thing about not turnning it on when I started two years ago.
3)Identification if it means anything (is any model identification needed?)
4)a summary of what's needed, what you can do (processor etc..., audio, USB).
5) maybe some specs such as processor,

08-25-2002 15:41:51

New MessageRE:Basic question--help! (modified 0 times) Jsteinhilper
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****system will not let me modify the org, so this is what should have been posted.****

I'll take the grumpy old man up on that, and we'll see who can be the grumpier.

I'm fairly new to hacking this thing, I got started about two years ago, and thought it had bought the farm so I stopped. Checking it just before trashing it indicated that it was OK. So I'm back at it.

Originally, I had thought about getting a moderated forum (read only) for the postings (or just an area to post messages). But if you want a separate web, we can go that way. I can host it to start with, getting it setup and pictures and stuff (it would have to have pictures I guess, you are right about that).

As far are where to start? Since I'm starting again, I should be some help there.
1) Let's start with obtaining them, since I just had a post about that.
2) Then how about things Not to do unless that does not apply, I remember there was a big thing about not turning it on when I started two years ago.
3)Identification if it means anything (is any model identification needed?)
4)a summary of what's needed, what you can do (processor, audio, USB, etc...).
5) maybe some specs such as processor, memory type.

That should be enough to start with. Since I've got a new unit, I can start taking pictures. It would be nice if all the pictures were in the same format type, so I'll take pics as I move along.

Since I'm laid up with a bad back, I've got time to work on it. But mind you, I'm not a professional writer or anything, just another hack wanting to present the information in a more concise form for others. Also have a nice digital camera with macro lenses, so I can get in there to show detail.

I really didn't think anybody would take me up on it, but I'm motivated now. Shoot me an email so we can get together on a more timely level and get to know each other a little more. And shoot me what info you have to get started with. If somebody else if going to be hosting the end product, we'll keep it pretty generic.

This can take a while. Creating drawings and converting to JPG etc... Up to it?

08-25-2002 15:54:23

New MessageVersion Please (modified 0 times) KneuB_2
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What version of the i-o are you going to be working with?
08-25-2002 22:00:22

New MessageRE:Basic question--help! (modified 0 times) *SF*
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Sorry to hear about your Back.
did you get my email
Man I Hate the Look of this.....but only way to get any indent.

WARNING SOME FACTS MAY BE WRONG !!!



I. Introduction, What is an I-Opener

 A. Hacker Versions (noting changes)

  1. Version 0  Prototype

  2. Version 1

   a. 180MHz Winchip (2 x 60MHz)

   b. BIOS Boots any Hard Drive / OS

   c. QNX OS on Sandisk can be Hacked

   d. Demo has a Male voice.

   e. Sound Chip is Yamaha OPL3SA. 

   f. LCD Sharp    800 x 600 DSTN

  3. Version 2

   a. 200MHz WinChip (2 x 66MHz)

   b. BIOS only boots QNX, 

   c. Can be Hacked with HD setup as Sandisk

   d. BIOS Chip EPOXIED in

   e. Very Few had clipped  IDE pin(s) ???

  4. Version 3

   a. Sandisk  holes in QNX patched 

   b. Demo has a Female voice

  5. Version 3b 

   a. Stand Screws “Security Torx T-8"

  6. Version 4

   a. BIOS      None Epoxied in

   b. 200MHz CPU is a Rise PR266 (2 x 66MHz)

    (1) Split Plane CPU Voltage

   c. LCD Hitachi

  7. Version 4b

   a. CPU Core voltage adjustment dipswitch above the SODIMM slot. 

  8. Version 5

   a. Non-Booting BIOS must be Replaced

   b. Sound Chip is AC97   AD1881


  9. Links

   a. Random Annoyances (v5's and used I-Openers) cyrixone

    (1) http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=technical&Post=1923&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=


II. Acquiring an I-Opener

 A. Find one that is no longer used as it was intended (in a Closet)

 B. Autions on the Internet (Ebay)


III. Testing it before You Modify Anything !

 A. Plug PS into the Wall (110VAC)

  1. Green LED on PS should be Lit.

  2. Output 19VDC   Amps

 B. Press the Power Button

  1. Screen should light up

  2. Should hear Voice.

 C. Powering Off

  1. Hold Power button for 4 or More seconds (10)

  2. Tapping Power Button will shut off Screen only


IV. Opening it up

 A. Stand Screws “Security Torx T-8" (2.5mm x 8mm) x 4

  1. First Report on V3 ???

  2. 1" bits too Short, 2" bit could work

  3. 2mm Straight Blade shoved between 2 star points & the center pin works well

 B. Most of the rest of the Screws (2.5mm x 6mm)

 C. The Short screw @ the Power Plug

 D. The 2 Parallel Port Stand Offs

  1. Use 5mm “Thin Wall” nutdriver

  2. Lock-tite studs when reassembling


V. Using a Real Keyboard / Mouse


VI. BIOS

 A. Introduction, Versions that Matter & Why 

 B. Upgrading 

  1. www.BADFLASH.com

  2. Removing Epoxy, Not any more.

   a. Wire tie repairs

 C. Screens & Settings

  1. 


VII. Sandisk Options

 A. Jailbait


VIII. Booting a Hard Drive

 A. Mounting

  1. I-Mod 1

  2. I-Mod 2

  3. I-Mod 3

  4. In CPU HeatSink

 B. Cable

  1. IDE Activity Led

 C. What OS

 D. Drivers


IX. UpGrading Stock 32 Meg RAM SODIMM 

 A. 128meg

 B. 256meg




X. Upgrading CPU


XI. Upgrading Sound


XII. Serial Ports


XIII. Modem


XIV. VGA Out


XV. Adding 2nd USB Support


XVI. Networking


XVII. Going Mobil

 A. Running from 8 ~ 16 VDC

 B. 110VAC Inverter


XVIII. Adding GPS


XIX. Links

 A. http://www.Linux-Hacker.net

 B. http://www.geocities.com/iopener_hack/prefect/

 C. http://yourpage.blazenet.net/starfish/hacking.htm
08-26-2002 02:03:02

New MessageRE:Basic question--help! (modified 0 times) Jsteinhilper
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**What version are you using?**

I think it's a ver. 3, not real sure. Cyberblade video, Winchip and epoxy on the BIOS.

08-26-2002 08:42:13

New MessageRE:Basic question--help! (modified 0 times) Jsteinhilper
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**Sorry to hear about your Back.**
Thanks, just about at the end of the rope, tried almost everything sofar, only one thing left.

**did you get my email **
No, I thought it would show up in my profile, but after looking at it, nothing showed up. I have not received a email from anybody, even the cat I was going to give the hard drives to.
Either way, it's jack@nycestuff.com for anybody that want to send anything (nice)
Man I Hate the Look of this.....but only way to get any indent.

**WARNING SOME FACTS MAY BE WRONG !!!**
Well, hopefully, after it gets posted, we can weed out any errors, and get some good clean info up there for people to sort through.

Right now, I'm collecting info and saving it. I'll have to sort thorough it all and start posting what I have for check out.

08-26-2002 08:47:22

New MessageRE:Basic question--help! (modified 0 times) redwood
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well, if you have spent a few minutes reading everyday for the last couple of years.. you would know, there is a T O N of info here...

ckbone put together some nice 'Tips' ... this is just one url, but, it will prolly lead to the others.. well worth a look for those new here. good luck

http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=technical&Post=1696&Idle=10&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=ckbone.98060295149622

08-26-2002 18:45:52

New MessageRE:Basic question--help! (modified 1 times) *SF*
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Thanks Redwood. I think We have slowed him down
No posts or New threads started Today from him...........
& before anyone Ask for More,
Here I-Opener Technical Stuff / Favorite Links. Alot of Gold for Item XIX. Links
(Error above, 2 X 60/66MHz should be 3 X 60/66MHz)

But I Hope he Posts a Link to his Work,
so everyone could Comment.
I think each Item will Need it's own WebPage.

Oh, & Anyone have a Link to the "Any ISP" Sandisk Image Frank23, who started this Thread ask for ?
I Searched alittle, but didn't find it. & I don't know that he will want to do the Work to change it anyhow.

08-26-2002 22:59:13

New MessageSanDisk Repository (modified 0 times) KneuB_2
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The links to the SanDisk Repository threads etc.
08-27-2002 18:56:15

New MessageRE:Basic question--help! (modified 0 times) Frank23
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Thanks for the answers to my original question.
I'm completely new at this--I don't know which version I have. It doesn't offer a setup screen, has a female voice, one of the screens says "2001"--don't know that I want to open it up--maybe I'll just try and get rid of it.
Frank
08-29-2002 11:43:16

New MessageVersion run down (modified 0 times) KneuB_2
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Frank23

Here is a good run down on version numbers and how to tell.

08-29-2002 12:30:12

New MessageRE:Basic question--help! (modified 0 times) BadFlash
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There are some pitfalls with the anyisp image. You can't setup the e-mail account, so the one floating around has ragnar's account on it. You can use any isp you want. I have no personally tried it with a V3. In order to do the hack you need to be able to boot from a drive, and that requires removal of the bios chip. The link given above has the info for swapping sandisk images.
09-01-2002 11:59:12

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