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New MessageIO performance (modified 0 times) IOEvan
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Hey everyone,

Im new to the whole IO thing, and I've read the boards for quite some time now
I got interested in the I-Opener becuase i need a word processing machine that will fit onto my (really) small desk. But, while gathering resources and information about the various CPU hacks and compatable memory, that the IO can be a pretty strong machine (compared to my current 486dx4 133mhz). So, i was wondering if the I-Opener is strong enough to play some weak gaming. What i had in mind were things like emulators such as n64, SNES, and GBA. I know that the stock IO equipment is not nearly powerful enough for these things (200mhz, 32mb) but i know all the hacks for adding (and cooling) a k6III+ CPU and where to get (compatable) 128 mb sodimms.

BTW: I weighed the K62+ 450 and the K63+ against my fathers work PC (1ghz and 512mb) with Sandra Sissoft and they scored only a little under half its performance. So, my dads PC can play n64 games at double speed, so i was hoping the IO could play them at regular speed with some frame skipping. I can also flash the bios myself and make (crimp) my own IDE cables so all i would really need to buy would be the IO, CPU, Q16 cooling resistor, other hack materials, and eventually some ram. I say this becuase i know some people would say that hacking the IO is more expensive than its worth, but remember, i am in desperate need of space.

What I really wanted to know was is if someone with an I-Opener and a K6III+ (or K6 II+) and >64mb could try out a couple of emu's out for me. Im getting an I-Opener very soon for my new high school classes, but some gaming thrown in there would be cool too. So if someone would like to try out Project 64 (n64 emu) for me, i would be way more than delighted to supply the emulator and acompanying files (if you know what I mean). Also, it would be really nice if someone would try a GBA emu on it too, but i dont want to sound so demanding.

09-07-2003 12:24:52

New MessageRE:IO performance (modified 0 times) Tom61
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No matter how fast of processor or how much ram you cram in it, the IO is going to suck for gaming. This is because of the screen, it is a passive matrix DTSN screen (like old laptops used to have, and the orginal Game Boy). The responce time is quite low, meaning games are going to jerk, and usually are blurry.

This is why people are trying to retrofit a TFT display to it (actually being able to play games and video decently).

09-07-2003 15:44:49

New MessageRE:IO performance (modified 0 times) IOEvan
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Yes i have heard about the old DSTN screen, but belive me im used to it. I regularly use an old Dell Latitude LX for writing, and also for playing SNES9x. I can get 90% speed on an old 486! (without sound) But it actually looks OK. When Im playing games i cant really notice the DSTN flickering, only when i play divx (soooo slowly) I also know that if i can play SNES emu's on my 486 i can definetly play them on an IO, even stock parts. Also, with almost any emulator, you need to skip at least 1 frame per second, which gives the slow DSTN screen more than enough time to react. Not as good as TFT but you (I) can hardly notice.

BTW: For everyone with a Web appliance with limited HDD storage space or CF space, i use a free program called Abiword for word processing. It can open (and make) Word documents, but it has its own format that takes up less space. Also, the Abiword program only takes up <10 megs of space. Just a space saving thought.

BTW'2: I just checked out the /www.litePC .com and they just came out with an XPLite. When I get my IO, i will try and install this. This will really take a bite out the required RAM to run XP.

09-07-2003 16:19:00

New MessageRE:IO performance (modified 0 times) Wild_Pencil
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I sometimes fire up MAME when I'm visiting the g/f. Works like a champ.

Yeah, the stock DSTN screen sucks (especially for Tetris). Luckily (my hacker's point of view) her machine is acting goofy ever since the last few rounds of viruses and worms got in. So, I'm planning to replace her machine with a TFT-Upgraded one that I'm currently building up.

-WP

09-07-2003 20:44:29

New MessageRE:IO performance (modified 0 times) oldman
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IOEvan:

how much is it worth to play computer games in your limited space?

is it worth enough to buy a flat panel svga monitor? like about $250-$300 over the price of hacking the i-o?

doing the vga out cable hack to a flat panel would make a good display for games. it is one of the easier hacks.

you could even attach the i-o to the back of the flat panel, out of sight.

i have had an i-o driving a tft flat panel monitor for a while. with more memory and cpu speed, the only problem is the limit on display memory (see mustang2's posting about video memory above).

have fun,


oldman
09-08-2003 21:25:38

New MessageRE:IO performance (modified 0 times) IOEvan
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OldMan

Its not that important to me at all. Just a cool novelty. But i have to say that it never occured to me to do the VGA out hack. I have an old svga monitor lying around i could use if i really wanted to, but then again, thats a big pain to go and get it just to play games.

Also, i 've seen two hacks for the HDD light, which is better, using a wire on hte cable or a trace on the motherboard. Im better at soldering than cutting ide wires, so im thinking mobo traces.

09-10-2003 19:19:16

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