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Possible new information regarding Webpal binary images?
Interesting output from "strings" command

New MessagePossible new information regarding Webpal binary images? (modified 0 times) dflowerd
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Hey there, it seems as though there's not much activity on this board anymore. I just picked up a webpal myself because it was cheap and looked interesting. Anyway, I've read what everyone else here wrote, and it seems as though noone ever was able to download their own binary image to this thing. I just ran one of the images from teknema through strings, and found some interesting output, especially the first few lines:

In-place Decompressor
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incomplete literal tree
incomplete distance tree
bad gzip magic numbers
internal error, invalid method
Input is encrypted
Multi part input
Input has invalid flags
invalid compressed format (err=1)
invalid compressed format (err=2)
out of memory
invalid compressed format (other)
crc error
length error
ran out of input data
-- System halted
Uncompressing Application...
done.

Can I assume then that the OS is stored in a compressed format with GZIP? Does this help anything?

01-14-2001 20:38:12

New MessageRE:Possible new information regarding Webpal binary images? (modified 0 times) transiit
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Yeah, I've run a number of their .erx images through strings and noticed similar results. gzip didn't want to decompress the entire image, so I wouldn't be surprised if there might be some sort of embedded gzipped archive somewhere in there. Someone who recognizes the format might be able to say for sure (else I'll have to go take a look at wotsit.org to see if they've got any information on that one)

I've been keeping an archive of nearly every file I can find related to the webpal, and one of the more interesting ones was the teknema parallel debugging package. Essentially, it purports to be a few utils for dealing with these things, a README file with a wiring diagram for the cable, and a modified version of lp.c (linux kernel parallel port driver. looks like they got it from one of the 2.0.x kernels. I never had success building it on a 2.2.x system, and I'm pretty darn sure 2.4.x is right out.)

I think I even have copies of their tools for dealing with images for the smartcard reader.

-transiit

01-15-2001 00:15:03

New MessageRE:Possible new information regarding Webpal binary images? (modified 0 times) transiit
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Everybody say "hoo-ray" for progress

So I looked up some information on gzip file formats, and learned enough to determine that gzip archives start with the byte pattern "1f8b". So I grabbed one an upgrade image, opened it up in ghex, and did a search for such. Found it at 7E80. Decided it was likely the compressed image considering a large number of bytes preceding this were all 00. So I chopped off everything before that point, ran it through gzip (which complained of trailing garbage) and ran the result through strings.

An exerpt from the result:

tiber
http://www.teknema.com/er/
`Easy Rider - Rel. 1.0a
Copyright (C) 1996-1997, Teknema, Inc.
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Init Video........ OK
Init Keyboard.....
FAILED
Init Mouse........
Init I/O copro....
Init Timer........
Flash Memory......
%dk in %d sectors
NOT AVAILABLE!
Sound.............
Printer port......
`HOMEPAGE
http://random.yahoo.com/bin/ryl
`http://www.teknema.com/cgi-bin/random/er/random.list
`http://www.aromatic.com/cgi-bin/random/random.list
`http://www.teknema.com/cgi-bin/random/er/frames.list

It goes on for much longer than that, but there's definitely something embedded in there. Time to go poke around some more.

-transiit

01-15-2001 17:28:40

New MessageRE:Possible new information regarding Webpal binary images? (modified 0 times) dflowerd
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transiit, this is good news. I found an ARM disassembler this afternoon that I'm going to try to run one of the binaries through later tonight to see if I can decipher how it boots, and whether or not this is just a raw FLASH image or if it contains anything else. It seems as though being able to web-upgrade these things to some custom software is very possible and that we're very close to a solution for it...

I wonder if those "Init <device>....." strings are what is sent out the serial port? I heard from someone that debugging info was sent over one of the serial ports that is visible on the motherboard...

01-15-2001 19:34:08

New MessageRE:Possible new information regarding Webpal binary images? (modified 0 times) alslocks
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I KNOW NOTHIG ABOUT THIS THIG BUT WHEN I GO TO THE HOME PAGE NOTHIG SHOWS UP. I CAN CONNECT USING MY OWN ISP AND SEND AND RECEIVE EMAILS BUT THATS IT. I CAN NOT SERF. WHAT DID I DO WRONG.
HELP!!!!
alslocks
12-26-2002 07:51:06

New MessageRE:Possible new information regarding Webpal binary images? (modified 0 times) xeon
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You cant go the the website because it no longer exists.
You have to hit goto and type your url there.
-Xeon
01-03-2003 15:53:08

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