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New MessagePlease post your experiences with ISA cards on webpal (NICs, Modems, etc...) (modified 0 times) xeon
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Just figured the would be a good topic of discussion since I've been having so many problems...

1. 3com Etherlink III (TP/TPO) (3c509) Managed to get it up after changing the io scan to 0x80400000
Other than that I just get collisions/overuns.

2. IBM Etherjet (cs89x0) Couldn't get it to work at all, and I think there is some type of conflict because,
when the serial tx/rx are active the link led blinks on the card.

-Xeon
12-02-2002 17:49:53

New MessageRE:Please post your experiences with ISA cards on webpal (NICs, Modems, etc...) (modified 0 times) bigbrd
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The one that I have gotten to work is a noname NE2000 clone that uses a RTL8019AS chip.

Even though it is ISA PNP, it seems to come up at address 0x300 and INT3 and enabled (which is unusual), so I didn't have to tweak it. Since it worked without tweaking, I went and bought ten and haven't had to worry about ethernet boards since.

I got them for $4.95 each from Halted ( http://www.halted.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/cgi-local/smpagegen.exe?U+scstore+xkdv9447ff896789+-c+scstore.cfg+-p+18943 )

The FCC id # is HED1661EN2.

12-02-2002 23:54:42

New MessageRE:Please post your experiences with ISA cards on webpal (NICs, Modems, etc...) (modified 0 times) dmaD6
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Hay thank u for heling me find the anwers to making the web-pal going on line i just gave one away to my friend . So all i need todo is get the isa card and i'm online wit the webpal? SO that isa card can get me connect better wit know real problems??
TK u for your time.
DAMAD
12-09-2002 12:08:55

New MessageRE:Please post your experiences with ISA cards on webpal (NICs, Modems, etc...) (modified 0 times) bigbrd
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The ISA card discussions here are for those experimenting with the unit
under Linux. They are NOT applicable for those running the software
that comes with the webpal!

Bill

12-09-2002 23:21:44

New MessageRE:Please post your experiences with ISA cards on webpal (NICs, Modems, etc...) (modified 0 times) bck2002
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what will happen if you use a High Speed Internet with the WebPal Software will it work or not I don't want to install Linux it's to conpucated first you need a laptop hard drive then you need to ship the bios for a fee then need to upgrad the bios
12-25-2002 20:26:07

New MessageRE:Please post your experiences with ISA cards on webpal (NICs, Modems, etc...) (modified 0 times) xeon
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It will not work... the only known ways are to use linux or possibly upgrage the flash to the ethernet version of the default software.
But you would still have to find the ethernet card that was used for that software.
-Xeon
01-03-2003 15:48:59

New MessageRE:Please post your experiences with ISA cards on webpal (NICs, Modems, etc...) (modified 0 times) mevanson
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I was able to make the 3c509 driver work with a 1992 era Etherlink III card, but I can't get it to work with a 1994 era card (3c509b).

The card is identified and ping and telnet are working just fine.

For some reason, I'm unable to get NFS working either via root or while mounting after boot. The mount successfully occurs, but any attempt to use ls against the mounted directory results in server not responding. A brief review of a tcpdump of the packets appears that they look normal.

I'm not leaving out the possibility that my conversion of the code is not 100% right.

If you're interested in my patch so far, you can retrieve it from http://www.twosillies.com/webpal/3c509.c.patch

(With the NE2000 cards from halted.com being so cheap, it's almost not worth my time to do this, but I do like a challenge).

--matt

01-27-2003 10:47:37

New MessageRE:Please post your experiences with ISA cards on webpal (NICs, Modems, etc...) (modified 0 times) mevanson
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one additional note. it appears the problem is somewhat related to interrupt activiting or the way in which the el3_interrupt function handles interrupts.

If i continuously ping the webpal with the 3c509, I slowly get results from ls of a mounted NFS drive. It's like the interrupt is picking up the response packets from the NSF server when the ping requests are coming in.

--matt

01-28-2003 13:11:36

New MessageRE:Please post your experiences with ISA cards on webpal (NICs, Modems, etc...) (modified 0 times) sparcusMaximus
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Doink...another ISA lan card to add to the
"NE2000 compatible that does not work with
the Webpal" list:

Linksys Ether16 LAN Card

It does work on a 486/PC running Red Hat,
though. Have since bought a couple of the
halted.com cards, which work out of the box.

Has anyone used a parallel port ethernet
adapter with the Webpal? There seems to be
no driver for the Xircom PE3 or similar,
but there is a driver for the DE-620, and I
have seen some D-Link DE-620CT adapters on
eBay fairly cheap. Using one of the halted
cards and a DE-620 parallel ethernet adapter,
and set up with an IDE to Compact Flash
adapter for booting, the Webpal might make
a decent DSL firewall/router. The max
thruput I have seen mentioned on the web is
120kBytes/sec to 180kBytes/sec (960kBits/sec
to 1440 kBits/sec) when it is used on a PC.
But the CPU horsepower may not be there.

Any opinions?

Regardz,

sparcusMaximus

01-30-2003 03:53:51

New MessageRE:Please post your experiences with ISA cards on webpal (NICs, Modems, etc...) (modified 0 times) ranma
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I have an 1992 3c509 Card with BNC + AUI Connectors. The driver did work, but it did not send or receive packets. The AUI Power LED was on, but not the Link LED. I had a look at the ISA connector and it seems that BNC/AUI-Network cards require 12V at the 12V Pin for a 12V->9V Converter (BNC) and the AUI Interface, but in the Webpal it's wired to 5V. I cut the trace on the mainboard and on the ISA U-Card (Or whatever you call this U-Shaped thing; On it the Pin is also wired to 5V, don't forget to cut that one too) and made a connection to the Capacitor before the 5V regulator. As I'm using a 12V Supply to power my webpal, the Network card now works.
I was trying to get a LT1301 Step-Up converter, but the local electronics store had to order it, so i'll have to wait for the real solution to arrive. (In the Datasheet is an example for a 5V->12V Step-Up Circuit).
02-14-2003 10:53:17

New MessageRE:Please post your experiences with ISA cards on webpal (NICs, Modems, etc...) (modified 0 times) ranma
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One additional note:
When I ping a host and the WebPal is idle, approx. every second packet gets lost. None get lost, however, if the CPU is under load.
Maybe the CPU needs to much time to wake up ?
02-14-2003 13:11:12

New MessageRE:Please post your experiences with ISA cards on webpal (NICs, Modems, etc...) (modified 0 times) ranma
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In addition to the 3c509 I have two ISA NE2000 Cards using the UM9007F Chipset (E-LAN-2000), I think the same one may be on the
E2000plus newell mentioned in the thread with the subject "Two more NICs that don't work" because they showed the same symptoms,
almost working but lots of "mismatched read page pointers" and "timeout waiting for Tx RDC" errors. I captured the Traffic with Ethereal and noticed that often whole 16bit words were missing in the packets rendering them invalid. On this card IOCHRDY is connected to the chip (The 3c509 doesn't use IOCHRDY), so I tried wiring it to the READY pin of the CL7500: I cut the 5V trace to the READY pin, made a wire connection to IOCHRDY on the ISA connector and used a nearby 5V pad to add a 2.2k pull-up. After this mod the UM9007F-Card actually
works. (although that might also be because of the 12V hack, I did not test the card with only that mod)
02-14-2003 17:36:22

New MessageRE:Please post your experiences with ISA cards on webpal (NICs, Modems, etc...) (modified 0 times) m_bed
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The cards from Halted that so many have had good results with are all gone: someone recently bought out their entire remaining inventory. The counter guy said he remembered the inside sales guys being very happy, because they thought it was going to take years to get rid of them all.

The guy working the counter on Saturday must've missed that party, and I didn't have the description with me, so I took a chance on a couple of different ones, hoping that one would turn out to be right. I'll report on how they go once I've had a chance to try them (I still haven't gotten a serial port working so I can flash one).

Ran

03-13-2003 00:01:35

New MessageRE:Please post your experiences with ISA cards on webpal (NICs, Modems, etc...) (modified 0 times) justdavesj
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I've been working on the 3c503 card with limited success. When the driver tries to get the mac address it seems to be different every time. Each time some of the bytes are right but the rest are not. I suspect a timing problem of some kind. If I bypass the checking the rest of the driver finds everything okay but the interface will not work. I have looked at the 12 volt traces on the card and it seems to just go to the aui output (which I am not using).

I will continue looking into this.

dave

03-22-2003 10:49:28

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