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how illegal is giving false info?
how illegal is giving false info?

New Messagehow illegal is giving false info? (modified 0 times) tegg
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Im thinking about asking one of my parents to go in and give the guy false info (I had to be rejected by the one manager that is there ALL the time :/ )on the TOS aggreement and have them pay with cash. The thing is though, Id rather not get them arrested. If they found some way of finding my parents real info could any charges be pressed? If so maybe I should just drive an hour north and do it myself because im only 17 so there isn't THAT much they can do to me :)
05-02-2000 16:36:57

New MessageRE:how illegal is giving false info? (modified 0 times) NPLIkilller
You only have a problem if you give a bad CC#.
While filling out a form with false info could open you up to
a potential lawsuit, it just ain't gonna happen for the amount
of $$ involved.
05-02-2000 18:04:31

New MessageRE:how illegal is giving false info? (modified 0 times) It's Fraud
It's FRAUD and illegal...."may" even ruin a good credit rating...

My advice don't do it. it is not worth it.

05-02-2000 20:27:46

New MessageRE:how illegal is giving false info? (modified 0 times) DON'T DO IT!
The FBI is conducting an ongoing investigation of credit card fraud .
When someone cannot supply the correct information for the card account they are attempting to use, we can only assume that they are not the owner of the card account.
This constitutes credit card fraud, which is a Federal offense. Credit card companies do not take fraudulent card activity lightly, and neither does the U.S. Government, or foreign governments. This offense is viewed by the Government as comparable to counterfeiting currency, as it has a negative impact on the country's economic stability. That is why the investigation of this type of crime is done by the Treasury Department.
The Secret Service, an agency of the Treasury Department, handles law enforcement related to both credit card fraud and computer-related fraud (as well as other tasks, such as protecting the President), as follows---
The Secret Service is a criminal law enforcement agency which operates under the provisions of Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 3056. Under Section 3056, Subsection (b), the Secret Service is specifically authorized to detect and arrest any person who violates federal criminal laws relating to coins, obligations, and securities of the United States and foreign governments, electronic fund transfers, credit or debit card fraud, false identification documents or devices, and certain laws relating to financial institutions. Additionally, pursuant to Title18 of the United States Code, Sections 1029 and 1030, the Secret Service is specifically charged with the authority to investigate offenses concerning fraud and related activity in connection with computers and/or access devices. See Title 18 U.S.C. 1030(d), Fraud and related activity in connection with computers ("The United States States Secret Service shall ... have the authority to investigate offenses under this section.").
Federal penalties for credit card fraud include up to 10 years in prison and up to $10,000 fine. In addition remedy can and will be sought by the Corporation in the civil courts.
Falsely denying payment on your credit card will result in a small claims or civil law suit within your locality.
It is also a Federal Offense and we will report your information to the FBI.
will have the right to recover costs to pay the collection agency who represents us in your local court. Credit card fraud is a federal offense and we have the remedy of the court system on our side.
Your personal and credit card information will be added to the merchant processing service's fraud protection database.
05-02-2000 21:01:36

New MessageRE:how illegal is giving false info? (modified 0 times) It's not worth it!
Hey it's not worth it. yes it may be a small sum of money but is it really worth it to have a bunch of legal problems hanging over your head if they choose to pursue legal action over a stupid little box....
05-02-2000 21:10:29

New MessageRE:how illegal is giving false info? (modified 0 times) Lawyers make big $$$
It may be only a couple hundred bucks one TRIES to save by intentionally giving false credit card info...

BUT if the company chooses to pursue legal action the law is on there side.

Defense Lawyers love stupid people, Stupid people who break the law help pay for the lawyers New homes, New BMW's, New boats, Expensive Vacations, ETC ETC ETC.

Stupid people also brag and post it here that they intentionally filled out the contract with false information.

I assume isp information is automatically logged onto this BBS server and can be used as evidence if a warrant is ever issued by LAW Enforcement authorities requesting log information.

It is better to have "overlooked" or "ignore" the the contract than to fill it out knowingly and willfully supplying false credit card information.

My .02 cents worth...

05-02-2000 21:41:55

New MessageRE:how illegal is giving false info? (modified 0 times) tegg
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damn, yanno, you don't have to threaten me, especially when you have absolutely no way of doing any of the things you said that you would. When is the last time I posted my full name and address here? Even if you are stuck in your hax0r world where wanna track my IP and all that... whatever have fun.

Why not go flame the people who faked the info for 20 of these things and are selling them on e-bay instead of making empty threats to me while I haven't even done anything yet.

05-02-2000 21:58:08

New MessageRE:how illegal is giving false info? (modified 0 times) More.
My viewpoint is, There is NO DIFFERENCE if a person falsely tries to obtain a product or service required by contract by intentionally using false credit card information or paying with phony money made on a printer.

It's both Illegal !

I'm quite sure the government views it the same way.

So if a person prints $ 200.00 in phony money the S.S. investigates it!

If a person supplies false credit card info for $200.00 does the S.S. investigate it? My assumption would be yes.

I for one would NEVER do any of the above and definately advise anyone else DO NOT DO IT!

This post is just informational opinion hoping to discourage anyone contemplating falsely filling out the contract. In no way is it meant to be legal advisement or representation.
Just awareness of possible ramifications....

My .02 cents worth.

05-02-2000 22:03:38

New MessageRE:how illegal is giving false info? (modified 0 times) Just a post
The "don't do it post" was not intended to be a threat...sorry about that...it was information obtained from the web to use as a "reference" to the possiblity of consequences if one fills out a contract with false CC info. to sway one away from possibly breaking any law(s)
05-02-2000 22:15:56

New MessageRE:how illegal is giving false info? (modified 0 times) wtf?
You gotta be kidding me. What a bunch of whimps. What would be such a big crime if someone canceled their credit card and the service? So they changed their mind, so what. If I changed my mind and then they tried to bill me or get the CC company to get $$, the CC company would tell them to shove it and I would not pay the bill, let them collect, let them prove what service they provided me when I don't dial in at all. As for credit standing, I have a good dispute, card companies will back me up because there is no evidence that they provided me a service. Besides, if you have 20 cards (you better if you want to play the credit game right, one late phone bill and you are screwed with only one CC) then what does it matter? 1 bad spot on 20 good spots means nothing. WHIMPS! Give them real info, it's better! Say you are not satisified and found out you could get free service from elsewhere so you feel ripped off.
05-02-2000 22:17:02

New MessageRE:how illegal is giving false info? (modified 0 times) ssw207
Yes this is ILLEGAL whether in US or anywhere else, because you are signing a binding contract to agree to the terms of the service being provided. If you are under 16, then whatever you sign with them is invalid and cannot be considered a legal contract because you are below consent age.

Firstly, CompUSA/Websurfer considers it a legit, complete transaction only if you paid for the thing and also sign the TOS and agree to use Websurfer's service. By putting down false information, you are violating the terms of the transaction (signing up for their service). CompUSA/Websurfer will file a civil suit in a small claims court, AND the Federal Government will file for a CRIMINAL charge because you are using a false identity to defraud CompUSA/Websurfer into selling you a Websurfer. International law and treaties are similar in context, so if you leave the country (for this little box??), they can extradite you back to the USA.

However, for those who bought these things for $49.99, this does not apply to you, because CompUSA agreed to sell you the machine for $49.99 without any binding contract, and this was agreed by both parties of the transaction (you and the cash registerlady) and once you paid $$$ for it, the transaction is completed and fulfilled. If you are still worried, retain the Cash register receipt as evidence.

For people arguing with the CUSA managers, save your breath. This is a free market and suppliers can set whatever prices they want to sell, without any prior notice or explanation.

05-02-2000 22:30:12

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